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Dragon Descendant

It's a well-known fact that Dragons can shapeshift. It is not uncommon for them to interbreed with the humanoid races, resulting in Half-Dragons or Draconic creatures. However, the power of the draconic parent can still be felt many generations after. The descendants of these individuals are occasionally blessed with many of the powers held by their draconic ancestor.

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1 Skill 1 +2
2 Skill 1 +2 Keen Senses
3 Strength +1
4 Skill 1 +2 Keen Senses Breath Weapon
5 Draconic Affinity +2
6 Strength +1 Draconic Special 1
7 Skill 2 +2
8 Keen Senses Breath Weapon Energy Resistance
9 Constitution +1
10 Draconic Affinity +2 Draconic Special 2
11 Draconic Affinity +4
12 Strength +1 Draconic Special 1 Spell Resistance
13 Skill 3 +2
14 Skill 2 +2 Draconic Special 3
15 Wisdom +1
16 Breath Weapon Energy Resistance Frightful Presence
17 Draconic Affinity +6
18 Constitution +1 Draconic Special 4
19 Skill 4 +2
20 Draconic Affinity +2 Draconic Special 2 Wings, Legacy of the Dragon

Skills 1-4 +2: Each dragon has their own unique quirks and strengths. These are passed along to their Descendants as dictated by their Lineage.


Keen Senses: Dragons are known for their acute sight. The Descendant gains Darkvision out to 30ft as well as Lowlight vision.

Breath Weapon: The Descendant inherits the ability to supernaturally exhale a single type of energy. They gain a breath weapon of a type and shape dictated by their Lineage. This breath weapon deals 1d6 damage plus an additional 1d6 per two levels, four levels or eight levels which the Descendant possesses, based on bloodline strength. The breath weapon allows for a Reflex save for half damage with the DC being 10+Con Modifier+1/4 or 1/2 their level, depending on bloodline strength. It takes 1d10 rounds to recover the use of their breath weapon. The range of the breath weapon is 15ft for cones and 30ft for lines. If they possess a Major Bloodline, these increase to 30ft and 60ft at 12th level and to 60ft and 120ft at 20th.

Draconic Affinity: Dragons are a distrustful, riddling, enigmatic and capricious bunch. The Dragon Descendant knows how to deal with them, though. They gain a bonus to all social interaction checks with the type of dragon specified in their Lineage.

Energy Resistance: Descendants are naturally resistant against the type of energy which is used in their ancestor's breath weapon. They gain Energy Resistance to a single type of energy as dictated by their Lineage. The amount of resistance that they possess is equal to 1/4, 1/2 or 1X their level, depending on bloodline strength.

Spell Resistance: Spells don't do a whole lot to dragons. They don't do a whole lot to their children either. Dragon Descendants gain Spell Resistance 11 + level.

Frightful Presence: Dragons are downright terrifying. Have you ever seen a barbarian crap his pants? You can bet that Great Wyrm Gold Dragon Ascendant has. There's just something about them that makes people want to bolt in the opposite direction. This is usually the proper response. The Dragon Descendant receives the same threatening aura, causing all that stand before them to tremble. They gain the Frightful Presence ability which extends out to 30 ft with a Will Save DC of 10 + Charisma Modifier + 1/2 their level.

Wings: You know what else is scary? A dragon-shaped shadow. There's nothing quite like the second you realize what exactly is above you. The Dragon Descendant's vestigial wings become fully-functional. They have grown to full size, resulting in a fly-speed of 50 ft. with average maneuverability.

Legacy of the Dragon: Dragons are shapeshifters. Many have the capacity to take on the form of humanoids. But how many humanoids have the power to take on the form of a dragon? The Descendant gains the ability to Shapechange into a dragon of their type once per day as a spell-like ability. Caster Level is equal to the Descendant's level and the HD limit is not capped at 25. This does not require the usual Focus.

Lineage: Different types of Dragons have different skills and abilities. You won't see a Golden Dragon climbing up a vertical wall, nor will you find a white dragon living in an underwater cave. The Descendant gains a number of supernatural powers determined by their Lineage. All saves are Cha based and all Spell-Like Abilities are used at a CL of 1/2 or 1X their level, depending on bloodline strength.

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This is what bloodlines should be.
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Yes.If you're taking requests, you should totally make a Truenaming Bloodline, preferably based on the Kellus fix. But, y'know, what you've made some awesome Bloodlines, so you do whatever. Just make sure it includes cool stuff.
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Yes.If you're taking requests, you should totally make a Truenaming Bloodline, preferably based on the Kellus fix. But, y'know, what you've made some awesome Bloodlines, so you do whatever. Just make sure it includes cool stuff.
Hmm. Tome of Magic is one of the few 3.5 books that I don't have. I have a pdf buried somewhere that I scrolled through long enough to get the gist of the three systems. But aside from that, I have no truenaming experience. I may look into it, though...
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You, sir, are awesome. These bloodlines are just full of win.

If I can make a request, could you look into a rewrite of the Titan bloodline? Because nothing says awesome like rage-induced magic with a big weapon.

Also, this may sound stupid, but do your bloodlines work better assuming the "lose X levels" approach, or the "delay X levels" approach? For that matter, do you even know what I mean?
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You, sir, are awesome. These bloodlines are just full of win.

If I can make a request, could you look into a rewrite of the Titan bloodline? Because nothing says awesome like rage-induced magic with a big weapon.

Also, this may sound stupid, but do your bloodlines work better assuming the "lose X levels" approach, or the "delay X levels" approach? For that matter, do you even know what I mean?
Thank you, and I can certainly look into the Titan.

I'd say that they work better with the level delay, but it's really up to the DM.
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Awesome! Biggest thing, of course, would be redoing the whole oversized weapon thing to not technically mean giving you an actual titan-sized hammer.

Sounds good on the delay. I assumed it was lost levels with the originals, then found out many people were arguing over that, and have been confused ever since. Nice to see you had one in mind, and the one that sucks less for builds!
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I've never heard of the delay vs. lost debate and I wonder if someone could explain it to me.
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I've never heard of the delay vs. lost debate and I wonder if someone could explain it to me.
I believe it has to do with whether the levels that would be gained at 3rd, 6th and 12th are truly lost or simply delayed a level. Losing the levels is more detrimental to builds as there are features and whatnot that you miss out on. The latter works better and is my opinion the original intent.

I also added the Blue Dragon Lineage, if anyone's curious.
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Low-Light vision isn't a set distance, it's a multiplier.
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You forgot disern loaction's discription on the red dragon lineage.
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You forgot disern loaction's discription on the red dragon lineage.
Woops, you're quite right.

*Goes off to write description*
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*Sees that it's 8th level*
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What.

Uh... That may need to be changed.
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How does the delaying work? I've never heard of that before.

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How does the delaying work? I've never heard of that before?
Instead of taking a level in your blood line and calling it level three. You take a level in your blood line and add it to level adjustment. Then on the next level you get level three in your class.

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Moved Find Object down to the 4th and added in Fireball for the 3rd. All of them have descriptions.
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Search for The Way Words Work on the forum's search thingy. There isn't any other Truenaming. What are you talking about?
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Seems... I dunno. After reading Planar Tied then this, Tied is the obvious choice, lemme just say.

I mean... Fireball once a day, with wings at 20th. Meanwhile Tied get wings with the same effect at 16th and turn into a bloom'n angel at 20th.
(I'm not at all saying Tied is too much, I'm saying so far Tied is the only one worth -3 levels.)

well, the breath is rather nice I suppose.

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Seems... I dunno. After reading Planar Tied then this, Tied is the obvious choice, lemme just say.

I mean... Fireball once a day, with wings at 20th. Meanwhile Tied get wings with the same effect at 16th and turn into a bloom'n angel at 20th.
(I'm not at all saying Tied is too much, I'm saying so far Tied is the only one worth -3 levels.)

well, the breath is rather nice I suppose.
Re-read the breath weapon. It's usable once every 1d10 rounds.

Edit: I just re-read it myself. I think the damage is a bit off... Fixing now.
Editedit: Woops. Nope, it was fine.
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Re-read the breath weapon. It's usable once every 1d10 rounds.

Edit: I just re-read it myself. I think the damage is a bit off... Fixing now.
Editedit: Woops. Nope, it was fine.
yes yes, once every ten rounds for 10d6 at level twenty I read that.
For three levels I'd spend to get that I could take three levels of spell casting and get orb of fire or something.

Granted you won't run out of it, but at the same time I've always played casters, minus my first ever D&D game and my last as well as current games, and I've never had problems running out of spells before :/

I think what I'm really getting at here is just getting wings isn't a very good cap.

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yes yes, once every ten rounds for 10d6 at level twenty I read that.
For three levels I'd spend to get that I could take three levels of spell casting and get orb of fire or something.

Granted you won't run out of it, but at the same time I've always played casters, minus my first ever D&D game and my last as well as current games, and I've never had problems running out of spells before :/

I think what I'm really getting at here is just getting wings isn't a very good cap.
Well it's really dependent on what kind of character you're playing. A Barbarian with a Major Red Dragon Bloodline for example could make great use of the breath weapon, especially with the save being Con based. The same character wouldn't get anything along those lines were they a Tied.


Though after reading back through, I do see that this is missing something many of my more recent bloodlines have - a proper Capstone. I think I might rewrite the 20th level special for the Major line and just incorporate the wings into it.

Edit: Added the ability for them to turn into dragons. Maybe that'll make it a little more enticing. (Though at that point they already have the breath weapon and the wings... As well as the majority of the supernatual abilities posessed by their dragon. Mostly they just get a physical attribute boost.)
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Though after reading back through, I do see that this is missing something many of my more recent bloodlines have - a proper Capstone. I think I might rewrite the 20th level special for the Major line and just incorporate the wings into it.
yea I just noticed you don't have caps for many of 'em. I was about to retract the statement that it needs a cap (Caps are great, but if thats now what your going for...)
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Mesh/you forgot to mesh; wings with Legacy, so they passively have wings in addition with the draco'.
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Mesh/you forgot to mesh; wings with Legacy, so they passively have wings in addition with the draco'.
Yeah, that's what I decided on. Passive wings + the ability to turn into a dragon 1/day. At level 20 passive flight isn't that big of a deal and it certainly seemed thematic. Time to sort through a bunch of my older ones looking for similar missing caps.
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Is dragon breath really so potent you have to wait eight levels? Just wondering. Not sold on the awesomeness of it. Mechanically, Fluffy its fantastic.

I'm only being so picky because I like it and intend to use it in the future, just so ya know.
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Is dragon breath really so potent you have to wait eight levels? Just wondering. Not sold on the awesomeness of it. Mechanically, Fluffy its fantastic.

I'm only being so picky because I like it and intend to use it in the future, just so ya know.
Hmmm. Well I could switch Breath Weapon and Energy Resistance...

Edit: Swap done. I think it's justifiable as the Breath Weapon is certainly an iconic part of the Descendant and Fire Resist 4 isn't going to help that much.
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Hmmm. Well I could switch Breath Weapon and Energy Resistance...

Edit: Swap done. I think it's justifiable as the Breath Weapon is certainly an iconic part of the Descendant and Fire Resist 4 isn't going to help that much.

Prrfect. ~<3 As at the moment if I were to take a Major Bloodline for the character I've yet to start the game with, I'd be level four.


"Shapechange" would be more appropriate then Polymorph.
Or simply say they change into a specific Age of dragon :/ Maybe every five character levels the age category goes up by one? Sooo at level twenty thats... wyrmling/very young/young/Juvenile ?

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You're quite right. Forgot about the 15 HD limit on Polymorph. With Shapechange the HD limit continues to escalate, meaning that at higher levels (up in Epic) you'd gain access to the older age categories.

Any particular Lineages you want, or are you planning on using one of the ones I've already written out?
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You're quite right. Forgot about the 15 HD limit on Polymorph. With Shapechange the HD limit continues to escalate, meaning that at higher levels (up in Epic) you'd gain access to the older age categories.

Any particular Lineages you want, or are you planning on using one of the ones I've already written out?
Actually yea, I'm quite fond of both the Force dragon and the Prismatic dragon. If I had to pick a favorite of the two...............


hm.. Maybe the, No, Prismatic dragon. defiantly prismatic.
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Actually yea, I'm quite fond of both the Force dragon and the Prismatic dragon. If I had to pick a favorite of the two...............


hm.. Maybe the, No, Prismatic dragon. defiantly prismatic.
Of course you had to go straight for the Epic-Level ones... I'll see what I can do.

Edit: Darn unique Breath Weapon. Oh, and if you have an Prismatic Dragon Lineage Draconic Legacy doesn't do squat until 23rd level. HD limit and all that.
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