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Old 10-19-2011, 07:27 PM   Top  -  End  -  #1231
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Izumi uses two swords, Kaito can wield more than one object with his powers at a time, theoretically so could Nakahiro, if he didn't just use his umbrella. And wasn't there a quincy with two seele's?
Izumi has two swords. Right now, she's still learning how to use them both at once.
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Hey guys I was thinking of introducing two more characters only this time they are fraternal twin brothers and both of them are in the human world as Fushichou High School transfer students. As with my other characters they are somewhat based of existing ones. Particularly Masaru from Digimon Savers, and Death the Kid from Soul eater. Their mom is of American origin while their dad is Japanese. Both parents have a line of spiritually aware/empowered people in their family.

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Izumi uses two swords, Kaito can wield more than one object with his powers at a time, theoretically so could Nakahiro, if he didn't just use his umbrella. And wasn't there a quincy with two seele's?
Kaito can wield multiple objects, sure, but not in any effective manner. I mean, I imagine currently the difference between a rock and a hammer is only in how they fly through the air when thrown telekinetically.

I thought Nakahiro was actually specifically limited from using multiple weapons at once in some way. Either way, I imagine he's not trained in such a way that he could easily use multiple weapons at a time, considering he's not really yet trained in how to use basic applications of his own powers.

Edit: Again, I question how he can master so many abilities. Their levels in their abilities have to be toned down if they are to be 16 years old.

Also, please transfer information from the History sections to the Abilities sections so that they are more easily findable.
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huh? The abilities aren't mastered at all. I mean sure his Judo could be considered as such but his sanzu lines and kekkai aren't mastered. He had then since he was twelve and that's why he can do as much as he can. He still has a lot to learn with the kekkai and they only have so much power. For example they could implode a boulder or a section of a hollow but not much else. He can only use one sanzu line in combat, the other is essentially the special beam cannon from when piccolo and goku were fighting Raditz.
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Word of advice: when you compare what your character can do to what characters in already stablished anime can do, it makes the character look bad.

It'd be a lot more interesting if he could work his way up to the ability levels you propose, specially if they're meant to come from the same source.

Incidentally, I'm familiar with Judo, having trained it myself for roughly three years. It's pretty much useless against non-humanoid, larger, bigger-necks-than-your-arms or heavier opponents. It also requires you to either possess an iron grip or hope your opponent has built-in handholds. Therefore, I'm fine with whatever level of skill you choose to have with it, even though I suggest he be a green belt at best (for reference, the belts go: white, gray, blue, yellow, orange, green, purple, brown, black).

Multiple powers should come from the same source. People with multiple powersets (as in from different sources) are pretty hard to come by in Bleach. (Shinigami are something of an exception, but typically their level of skill isn't equal in all areas.)
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Okay, maybe "master" is the wrong word, but I find it hard to believe he can use entirely different and unrelated abilities that both require large amounts of practice (specifically Kekkai and Judo). This is, honestly, just too much for me to accept in a 16-year-old.

Chase has too many abilities for me. 16 year old kids shouldn't have so many abilities at such high levels of power. That's my personal belief, and I think it is a fair one.

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Maybe he needs to be less good at this?
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Old 10-19-2011, 08:31 PM   Top  -  End  -  #1238
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Fine then, I can take him down a notch in Judo, my entire reason for him being so good was that he trained in it for seven years and had one on one teaching with a master. Instead of near black belt level I can take him down to Kuroi's suggested green belt level.

Also Kuroi I was refering to the charge time.
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Ok, I've altered Myojin. Is this is acceptable, or is there something else I should change?
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Hello, I hope some of these thoughts are useful for you. I'm sorry if it seems difficult to understand or criticism. 

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I understand the influences of the character, but it is too powerful, don't you think? Also it creates problems for other characters. Of the character, I don't know what his theme is. It seems he has many different powers. But I don't know what is his main theme.
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I would like to recommend please choose one theme and please make the theme very interesting. I think you have some good choice. You can make a unique character and story with a power. But to do all of them it doesn't seem like a unique character, just powers from famous comics. Thank you for your time.
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I have to mirror questioning the expanse of Chase's abilities, most of the mortal kids have one unique ability, if they have any at all. Not to mention, even now the "spirit weapon" thing still mirrors the shinigami's zanpaktou, just lacking a special ability. Why should it be seperate? Why can Chase not just be a living shinigami?

I must also inquire as to the limit, if any, on Sanzu Lines. Or why it's even strictly necessary. Straight ability boosts are, well... rare for a reason, because it's hard to quantify them, they're usually just tied to releases. And really, straight ability increases are kind of boring, IMO.

I suppose I could have been more thorough in my last post on this subject, but it really seems like Chase's abilities are a little wide.
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Living shinigami? Can you elaborate please?
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Hayashi Izumi is an example.

Ichigo from Canon Bleach is also an example.

They are mortals who are alive, but have shinigami powers when ejected from their still living bodies, the difference between them and true shinigami being the presence of that body.
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Okay then, I always classified them as substitute shinigami. I guess I could try that, though where would his shinigami powers come from? hmmm
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From a Shinigami who lent them to him.

It's very simple. He could have died, he could have adopted the kid, et cetera.

Honestly though, I'm a bit concerned about your character making habits right now Kid. You've made four characters, and three of them have been expys from Soul Eater.

You have:
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  • Tsubaki (Twice Now, with Chase's history)
  • Chrona
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  • Death the Kidd

Sure, I admit to having an expy or two (HECATE is definitely not AEGIS from Persona 3. Nooope.), but every one of your characters has been from Soul Eater so far. And instead of attempting to import people like Death the Kidd who is incredibly powerful as a high class Shinigami, you're making him a mortal with multiple abilities. If you wanted to expy Soul Eater you SHOULD have made Death the Kidd a Shinigami and Black Star a Spiritual Human, whose ability let's him, iunno, summon soul versions of weaponry?

That would have been cool.
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From a Shinigami who lent them to him.

It's very simple. He could have died, he could have adopted the kid, et cetera.

Honestly though, I'm a bit concerned about your character making habits right now Kid. You've made four characters, and three of them have been expys from Soul Eater.

You have:
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  • Tsubaki (Twice Now, with Chase's history)
  • Chrona
  • Ragnarok
  • Death the Kidd

Sure, I admit to having an expy or two (HECATE is definitely not AEGIS from Persona 3. Nooope.), but every one of your characters has been from Soul Eater so far. And instead of attempting to import people like Death the Kidd who is incredibly powerful as a high class Shinigami, you're making him a mortal with multiple abilities. If you wanted to expy Soul Eater you SHOULD have made Death the Kidd a Shinigami and Black Star a Spiritual Human, whose ability let's him, iunno, summon soul versions of weaponry?

That would have been cool.
Does a living shinigami have to be given their powers? I thought that substitutes were living shinigami, but not all living shinigami had to be substitutes?

Also, we all have an expy or two

Speaking of, Kd and Geister could have an interesting scene like this Only with vicente being the nacho eating batman and Geister saying something about not using his horrifying powers to make los nachos.
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Yeah sorry. It's because with inspired characters I have a baseline to work with. With out them I go a bit haywire. Heck I'm going haywire now and that's...with... a guide IDEA!

Okay say I take out out the kekkai thing and replace it with something else. I always wanted a character like this. what about gravity manipulation. I'm thinking about making him a living shinigami. So what I was thinking of doing was having his primary power being the Weapon Wield skill. It would be basically be like described only he would have special attacks to go with it, With his spirit power being gravity manipulation. I would have to make up a shinigami to give him his powers though.

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See, now I kind of want to make a spiritually aware human, but I don't at the same time because I don't want so many new characters to just show up. Hmmm...
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Hate to burst your bubble Kid, but there already is a character with Gravity manipulation.
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Specifically Viatrix Klossner, because it's not clear.

Here's her wiki entry, too.
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Okay, maybe "master" is the wrong word, but I find it hard to believe he can use entirely different and unrelated abilities that both require large amounts of practice (specifically Kekkai and Judo). This is, honestly, just too much for me to accept in a 16-year-old.

Chase has too many abilities for me. 16 year old kids shouldn't have so many abilities at such high levels of power. That's my personal belief, and I think it is a fair one.

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Maybe he needs to be less good at this?
Eh, Judo actually shows little variation in technique and strategy. Out of most martial arts it is the easiest to grasp because pretty much every technique in it uses only your waist, legs (from the knee down) and arms, and even so it tends not to use too many at once (plus, it only has throws and holds). A sufficiently diligent student could learn all of its techniques in a couple of years, tops. Becoming proficient at Judo is more about body type than it is about talent - technique plays a part but it's useless without power.

Hollows in general are about as worried about judoka as a warrior in full plate mail is about a slingshot.
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Gosh dang it to heck! Um okay then um how about....um.......oh oh oh! How about Light? Or maybe electricity?
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Gosh dang it to heck! Um okay then um how about....um.......oh oh oh! How about Light? Or maybe electricity?
First one is taken by one of the Hayashis in Seireitei I think. One of tgva's characters, or at least a concept he was throwing around.

Second one is taken by Izumi Hayashi, with Kyurinmaru or whatever.

How about control over WIND. That seems free.
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Actually, Izumi does wind. Shishiou does electricity. Karite does ice, Natsuko does fire, Masaru does light, and Reiji does light differently.
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THATS IT! It works and it would allow him to use his skateboard Beelzebub. He would use it to fly and for speed. So yeah I'll use Wind. Okay going to start the editing.


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Try to focus on making your current character a bit more unique first. He has a Kenshiro-style beating to respond to.

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Well then I guess I either have to use the barriers or use an element another person already has.
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AnimeKid: I'm going to echo the others in saying 1.)you should work on building up your existing character(s), and 2.)Chase and his brother need way more thematic focus.

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Using 2 melee weapons, while difficult, has historical precedent in being actually effective (Exhibit A being Miyamoto Musashi, who Masaru may or may not be. <_< >_>). I have yet to hear of a viable combat application for 2 pistols (FPS's don't count ).

Kaito's using TK, which has both more and less finesse. Right now he can lift a bunch of rocks, but it's nothing like wielding 2 pistols or swords or whatever. Maybe, maybe, when he's gained a fair bit of experience and training (hopefully we can get a couple of reasonable in-game timeskips, if for no other reason than to somewhat catch up with real-time), he could do something like this gal.

Nakahiro may or may not be able to, but unless he trains, he'll only have potential.

As for 2 SS, I again point to the greater viability of melee dual-wield.

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Does a living shinigami have to be given their powers? I thought that substitutes were living shinigami, but not all living shinigami had to be substitutes? .
I believe that, technically speaking, "living shinigami" is our classification of their "species", while "substitute shinigami" would be a rank/title. Ichigo didn't get that title until after the Soul Society arc.
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Hmm...

If I recall, living shinigami were those mortals with the ability to employ shinigami powers without the need to abandon their physical bodies first, while a substitute is a human with a shinigami soul capable of separating form his mortal body without the risk of the separation causing it lasting harm (aka: Death).
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Also, we all have an expy or two
We do? This is news to me. Guess I better start making that expy then?

I was throwing around electricity but I dumped it, so if you want it for a Zanpakuto feel free to take it. I already have 4.5-5 characters and a 6th in my head who needs a bio anyways. But even still, if you can use an element someone's already using in a different way, that's not really that much of a problem. I mean, it's not like there's only one way to use Fire.

Draken: We may have changed it, but that works for me. Izumi would be a Living Shinigami and not a Substitute Shinigami under this definition, right?

Kuroimaken: Where are you that Daylight Savings Time is changing now? Our Google Overlords tell me that it ends November 6th, and it's still middle of October.
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