Yeah, that bugged me a little too in the episode. Captain Marvel didn't really do anything except eat some candy. Like I know the shows not about the adults superheroes, but he just sort stood around in that one scene and didn't even say anything. He just ate candy. I guess he helped battle the plants, but he didn't even say a thing in the scene where Batman was filling the characters in. It felt sort of odd.
Maybe Rob Lowe's too expensive for fifteen seconds of dialogue. *shrug*. None of the adult heroes had lines except for Zatara and Batman.
Isn't it kind of weird to give the psychotic clown to a guy best known for playing a robot?
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When? Because frankly, I am not sure I want to wait long enough to see it happen. Justice League and Justice League Unlimited characters had their disagreements, but they still felt like heroes.
If they didn't feel like heroes to you I don't know what to say; I mean they were told essentially "hey we know you've been running around fighting crime with us for years, so it's time to show you around a club house you can't be part of!" I wouldn't care who they were, anyone would be pissed at that kind of treatment; which is why Speedy, the eldest of the 4, quit on the spot. Plus given the range of experience all of them have under their belt. Robin is flat out stated as having been in the hero business for 4 years; they may not have been league quality, but "can't do anything without a chaperone" they most certainly weren't.
I really liked young Zatanna. Wish she could join up as a permanent member of the group, honestly.
Beyond that, eh, okay episode, but nothing I have much praise for. The whole thing with androids wanting to be human and discovering they can be heroes even if they're not just seems a little too cliche to me.
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Looks like Zatanna will be the female magic user instead of Raven, I wonder if the Teen Titans fanatics will count this as further proof of the shows inferiority to the Teen Titans cartoon.
Looks like Zatanna will be the female magic user instead of Raven, I wonder if the Teen Titans fanatics will count this as further proof of the shows inferiority to the Teen Titans cartoon.
I really liked Teen Titans. But ugh, Starfire is so... not the same in comics. She looks like a ex Yellow Lantern Corp member, ex because she was just that stupid of a character.
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I really liked Teen Titans. But ugh, Starfire is so... not the same in comics. She looks like a ex Yellow Lantern Corp member, ex because she was just that stupid of a character.
Yeah, I dont think Starfire is going to be showing up in this series, alien girl lost in human culture treads on Miss Martian's toes. But if M'gann(sp?) is the spy...
Yeah, I dont think Starfire is going to be showing up in this series, alien girl lost in human culture treads on Miss Martian's toes. But if M'gann(sp?) is the spy...
I thought Red Tornado was already revealed as the spy / mole? Is there still another?
I can't really see how M'gann could be the spy...
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...Proper Terminology. Meatbags. YES RED VOLCANO IS AWESOME. Also, Zatanna/Robin.
T.O. Morrow's android with his memories NOT being supported by the Light was nice. Again, Zatanna/Robin.
Batman:Aquaman as the heroes was creepy, but awesome. Him as the Music Meister. Yes. The song was cool too.
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I thought Red Tornado was already revealed as the spy / mole? Is there still another?
I can't really see how M'gann could be the spy...
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It was revealed in yesterday's episode that Tornado left so that Torpedo and Inferno would stop attacking, and was not the mole.
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It was revealed in yesterday's episode that Tornado left so that Torpedo and Inferno would stop attacking, and was not the mole.
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Besides, with the Reds and their creator unconnected to the Light, it's kind of impossible for him to be the mole.
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It was revealed in yesterday's episode that Tornado left so that Torpedo and Inferno would stop attacking, and was not the mole.
Ok, I just watched the episode. Sorry, I was one behind. Thought it was a great one, especially the soundtrack. Weird though that the team acted like the JL (except for Red Tornado) wouldn't trust them, when Black Canary exuded nothing but trust for the team throughout the episode.
Hope Zatanna becomes a permanent member of the team. She didn't even get to do much here, unfortunately.
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Besides, with the Reds and their creator unconnected to the Light, it's kind of impossible for him to be the mole.
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...You realize that this Robin is Grayson, not Todd, right? As in, the Robin (up until he becomes Nightwing, at least)? As in, one of the few characters that I like as inheritors of the Bat Mantle? (The only other one that comes to mind right now is Terry McGinnis. Because he was voiced by Will Friedle and fought evil in cyberpunk!Gotham.)
...You realize that this Robin is Grayson, not Todd, right? As in, the Robin (up until he becomes Nightwing, at least)? As in, one of the few characters that I like as inheritors of the Bat Mantle? (The only other one that comes to mind right now is Terry McGinnis. Because he was voiced by Will Friedle and fought evil in cyberpunk!Gotham.)
He was Damien Wayne. BEFORE Damien Wayne. He was Batman. After Batman. He fought the Joker. In the future.
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Nah, it was Wally the whole time. I mean, doesn't he act a little too much like himself lately?
I'm tempted to say Wally as well. The whole souvenir thing is an excellent way to introduce all sorts of fun stuff into the cave, so he's either malicious or just really dumb.
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I think Superboy is the mole if anyone. They've hinted in several episodes that there is more to his past. Maybe he doesn't even know he is the mole. Lets not forget he was being engineered by the villains - perhaps they can control him still somehow. He also definitely has a dark side to him, more so than the other characters. And if he is the mole he would be a formidable threat.
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"If anyone" - I wondered that, too (Sportsmaster just deciding to try and psych out the team) but I'm pretty sure The Light itself stated they had a mole.
So, because of this thread, I decided to get into the show. It's very good, for reasons I'm sure everyone already watches the show. Just one thing niggles at me everytime it comes on-screen.
Superman's treatment of Superboy...Doesn't feel like Superman. It shouldn't matter whether SB is SM's 'son' or not. SM's reaction to a troubled teenager has never been 'ignore him'. Especially because Clark was that troubled teenager at one point.
Even more annoying is that when Bruce sees Robin upset, Bruce's reaction is to spend time with the kid (play Basketball). So, I know the writers know how it's done.
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So, because of this thread, I decided to get into the show. It's very good, for reasons I'm sure everyone already watches the show. Just one thing niggles at me everytime it comes on-screen.
Superman's treatment of Superboy...Doesn't feel like Superman. It shouldn't matter whether SB is SM's 'son' or not. SM's reaction to a troubled teenager has never been 'ignore him'. Especially because Clark was that troubled teenager at one point.
Even more annoying is that when Bruce sees Robin upset, Bruce's reaction is to spend time with the kid (play Basketball). So, I know the writers know how it's done.
The point is that Bruce has dealt with kids for a long while. Superman hasn't. Just because someone went through the same things when they were a kid doesn't mean they know how to address it from the mentor side when it comes time. Add to that the fact that Superman was raised from birth in a normal American family. Superboy doesn't have those young-age laying of foundations... he is a bit more troubled as a result.
I suspect Superman is going to come around. I don't mind that he is struggling with this. I enjoy seeing Superman struggling every now and then instead of simply being perfect all the time. I know he'll eventually come around and do the right thing, because he's Superman. But for now it makes for interesting characters for him to be a bit standoffish. Plus it adds layers to Bruce / Clark friendship now that Bruce is giving him advice on being a mentor.
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There's also the fact that Supes is, no doubt (and understanderably), a bit freaked out by the fact that Connor is a clone of himself, so he's basially looking into an age-distorting mirror when he looks at him...
I think Superboy is the mole if anyone. They've hinted in several episodes that there is more to his past. Maybe he doesn't even know he is the mole. Lets not forget he was being engineered by the villains - perhaps they can control him still somehow. He also definitely has a dark side to him, more so than the other characters. And if he is the mole he would be a formidable threat.
It's hard to say; as they aren't following the Avengers cartoon formula which is a big mash up of classic stories from the comics over brand new stories and relationships; however a mole plot has been done twice in the Teen Titans comics and Superboy was the most recent one.
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