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Old 09-27-2011, 02:16 PM   Top  -  End  -  #1
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Default What kind of giant are we talking about

When I learned of GitP I was impressed by the fun and complexity of all the forums, but was left with a strange feeling in the back of my mind. I just now realized I don't know what giant is in this playground? (speaking in game statistics) with the rankings containing barbarians of unspecified levels and titans, I was thinking that one of the only giants that could best a titan would be a mountain giant (MM2). I don’t think it's accurate it can't be just some old 26 CR creature taken out buy a party of lv19 power gamers and min maxers it has to be worthy of being the highest ranking. So this is my challenge I have a creature a made called the playground giant in the spoiler below. If you want to make your own interpretation do so and post it here but here are just some basic guidelines that you should fallow.
  • Make it a giant of course
  • Size large or larger
  • 30 or more HD
  • High str and con scores, high natural armor and other things typical of giants just make sure it can bring the beef
  • Make it good but not to good its awesomeness must be quantifiable in numbers words to avoid confusion
  • May not be a specific creature so no class levels, divine ranks, or templates
This is my playground giant
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Default Re: What kind of giant are we talking about

That's certainly an interesting piece of homebrew, but to answer your question, the 'Giant' refers to the person who runs the site, Rich Burlew, the author of the very popular Order of the Stick comic strip. He occasionally posts here as a user who is named "The Giant", and flaming him will get you perma-banned.

All of this is in the Rules for Posting, by the way, so if you haven't read that, I would strongly suggest you do, as this site has some pretty strict rules that you probably wouldn't expect from a forum, but ignorance of the law is no excuse for it.

Have a good one.

Edit: For your homebrew, your attack routine drops by 15 instead of 5 towards the end, should be /+23/+18, not /+13/+8.
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I am sorry I should have said that I desided to create this thread as define a new creature when the other rankings refer to a particular well known monster. I mean no offence to Rich or anyone else for that matter.
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Ah, no I'm sorry, I didn't mean to sound like I was accusing you, and if I did that was not my intent. I simply wanted to answer your question.
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Old 09-27-2011, 02:46 PM   Top  -  End  -  #5
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ahh... thank you for notifying me I just want all the bored people on the internet to have something to homebrew.

and thanks for pointing out the problem with the attacks i fixed it.

I have glanced at the rules of flaming once again, and I don't think I am insulting him or ruining his reputation but thats just my opinion.
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It's quite clever actually and I certainly hope Rich doesn't mind some poking fun at his expense.

I would update it to 3.5.
BAB for Giants is 3/4 so it would have a BAB of +26.
Grapple is +55 not +47. Grapple is BAB + Special size modifier + Str bonus for 26 +12 +17 which = 55.
You forgot the normal size modifier of -4 to attack.
It should have 3 more feats and you could give it epic feats as well or monster feats.

Actually I would add Profession (writer) to that list of skills and perhaps Craft (comic book) as well.

He definitely needs some more special abilities.

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http://www.d20srd.org/srd/epic/monsters/titanElder.htm

Here is the Elder Titan, an epic level 70 HD giant. Pretty rad monster, doubt I'll ever have a real need for it in play.
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I actually see where you are coming from; if you name almost any giant, it will technically be surpassed by the Titan. So why is the owner and proprietor of the forum of lesser stature than regular posters?

So yeah, pretty cool piece of homebrew.

I don't know the specifics, but his weapon should be a blunt weapon called the Banhammer Alpha.
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i'm back and added your suggestions
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The Giant should have Double Standard treasure. Because... because, y'know, he's Rich.

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I came to the same conclusion about my 4/5 grade teacher by the same name. I later came to realize how bad a 1st year elemetery school teachers wages were.
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Here is some updates to the Playground Giant (I added some game mechanics, fixed typos, and updated to 3.5). The CR is probably lower than 32. I also took the liberty of changing it to 30 and also changed Alignment to Always Lawful Neutral. The environment should be the The Playground, a demiplane created by the Playground Giant for his own and other's amusement.

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good work. I am still thinking about the CR the metagaming ability is hard to value, especially the way I had it worded before. I will default to your judgement for now.
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I discovered that Rich has a thread at the top of the homebrew forum at the bottom of which are some monsters previously on the forum. I bet if we get a few more ideas and then edit some more I could submit it to him and see what he thinks. Our creation could be immortalized in 1’s and 0’s.

Here is an editing of the editing by Debihuman I chaged the banhammer and added more information about the plane "the playground" in to the discription.
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My understanding of "giant" in this context was that it was referring to an intellectual giant, not a physical giant. It's referring to a time on another forum when he felt he was a giant among intellectual dwarfs, and uses simile to recall the quote standing on the shoulders of giants. As such, it may not necessarily even need to be a giant type creature.
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Interesting, I still think I will keep the creature a giant because of the increasing pysical power of the creatures of the ranking system. I do agree that the playground giant should be smart too so I have edited this new version and given it higher mental stats. Also note that the giant has 3 knowlage skills, all other skills are based on mental ability scores, and with the meta gaming ability the giant can gather knowlage from the collective minds of the playground.
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Your Banhammer Alpha needs a little editing and I think that dying from getting negative levels from the banhammer should result in true death.

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Banhammer Alpha is a Gargantuan +5 throwing returning warhammer of distance that allows the wielder to cast banishment as the spell cast by a 30th level sorcerer at will. The wielder may also disrupt conversation that occurs in the playground. As a free action, the wielder may announce that his banhammer is active during the duration of this effect. Any target that breaks the rules of the playground within a 1-mile radius of the giant is instantly detected by him. Detected targets in 100-ft radius of the playground giant gain 1 negative level. There is no save. Repeated infractions result in the gain of additional negative levels. Any creature killed by gaining negative levels in this manner may not be raised, reincarnated, or resurrected. It suffers a true death.

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Banhammer Alpha is a Gargantuan +5 throwing returning warhammer of distance that allows the wielder to cast banishment as the spell cast by a 30th level sorcerer at will. The wielder may also disrupt conversation that occurs in the playground. As a free action, the wielder may announce that his banhammer is active during the duration of this effect. Any target that breaks the rules of the playground within a 1-mile radius of the giant is instantly detected by him. Detected targets in 100-ft radius of the playground giant gain 1 negative level. There is no save. Repeated infractions result in the gain of additional negative levels. Any creature killed by gaining negative levels in this manner may not be raised, reincarnated, or resurrected. It suffers a true death.
Probably a bit overpowered against Trolls or anything with the [fire] subtype, just 'cause of all the trolling and flaming that will inevitably occur in such an encounter.
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There I added the suggestions to make the Banhammer Alpha more deadly to trolls and flamers, as well as killing those who die from the level drain permanently. I also increased his CR by 1 because of the resent additions we have made. If you have any questions, ideas, comments, or concerns let me know.

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The Giant should have Double Standard treasure. Because... because, y'know, he's Rich.

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If I were to base it on Rich Berlew, I would say that he is an Eldrich Giant with lot of levels of... something. Loremaster maybe? On account of the high intelligence.
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What, no immunity to fire damage?

He should have this

Admin(ex): Whenever a creature is dealt fire damage, the Gaint gets a free Attack of Oppurtunity with the Alpha Banhammer against the creature who dealt the damage. He also gets the free Attack of Oppourtunity against anybody who uses an effect with the [fire] descriptor. This only applies when in the Playground demiplane
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Maybe a lock thread ability thats stop conversation. Ooooh I know.
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If I were to base it on Rich Berlew, I would say that he is an Eldrich Giant with lot of levels of... something. Loremaster maybe? On account of the high intelligence.
Actually, Rich himself already created a Prestige Class called "Giant in the Playground."

Required the giant type, and a good alignment.

Said giant got to become a kid's invisible 'imaginary' friend (not a kid you want to pick on...)
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Actually, Rich himself already created a Prestige Class called "Giant in the Playground."

Required the giant type, and a good alignment.

Said giant got to become a kid's invisible 'imaginary' friend (not a kid you want to pick on...)
He did? Which book is it in? I'd love to see it.

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He should have this

Admin(ex): Whenever a creature is dealt fire damage, the Gaint gets a free Attack of Oppurtunity with the Alpha Banhammer against the creature who dealt the damage. He also gets the free Attack of Oppourtunity against anybody who uses an effect with the [fire] descriptor. This only applies when in the Playground demiplane
I think If Admin was an ability it would be a combination of that and a few of his existing abilities, plus it is kind of weird for a racial ability to effect the wielding of a certain artifact weapon in a particular situation.

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The Giant can use the silence spell as a spell-like ability at-will when he is in his playground.
Thats cool, but I will put the ability on the Banhammer with the other forum ruling powers.

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Actually, Rich himself already created a Prestige Class called "Giant in the Playground."
That gave me a cool idea. I added something new to the creatures description.

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He did? Which book is it in? I'd love to see it.

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Unfortunately, it was never published in any book, and it seems my google-fu is weak for I can not find it. Though perhaps he has a copy tucked away some where.

There was a competition over on the old wizard's boards, where in one needed to create a prestige class using your name as some part of the PrC's name, and fitting the concept.

So he Created a PrC called "Giant in the Playground" naturally :) But if you want to see it, I think you are going to possibly have to ask Rich himself, unless some one's Google-fu (or at least patience to scroll through the entries...) is stronger than mine
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My understanding of "giant" in this context was that it was referring to an intellectual giant, not a physical giant. It's referring to a time on another forum when he felt he was a giant among intellectual dwarfs, and uses simile to recall the quote standing on the shoulders of giants. As such, it may not necessarily even need to be a giant type creature.
I think it should be both Giant type and Psionic subtype.
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