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As a wise man once said, "In the Beginning Was the Word, and the Word Was Suck;" and in general, he's right. From the lowliest tavern-born dungeon crawls to climactic fights with a pile of Balors, the average Truenamer will feel weak, inefficient, and could be replaced by a pile of wands.

You are not an average Truenamer.

You spent years of your life struggling to survive combat, scrambling to scrap together enough money for an Amulet of the Silver Tongue, and eternally paying dues to the Paragnostic Assembly. You found some moments of respite along the way, beautiful gems that kept you sane; the first time you flew, the first time you ripped a spell away from a much-stronger caster, and, well, Conjunctive Gate. By and far, however, your life was far harder than it should have been. You've always been one step behind your companions, always fighting to earn your cut and to gain recognition.

Your time is now. Your power, you have discovered, was so inefficient and clunky throughout your career for a reason. Truenaming was never meant for mortal lips, never meant to be a source of mortal power. Truenaming is not spellcasting; it is far less refined, less tamed. Truenaming is pure.

Truenaming is Epic.


Epic Utterances

"The secret to power? The secret to Truenaming? You cannot even understand the question, let alone the answer. Go ask someone with the time and simple mind required to dumb it down enough for you. I hear Boccob isn't very busy these days." -Ariallia Driftcloud, Exalted Philosopher of Paragnostic Truths, last recorded public statement.


The utterances that make up the totality of a Truenamer's power take on a new clarity and depth at Epic levels. An Epic Truenamer learns one Epic utterance when they take the Epic Truenaming Feat and every level thereafter. Epic utterances do not have a Lexicon like most utterances; they defy many of the definitions and limitations of lesser utterances. The DC to speak an Epic utterance is 25+(CR*2), and all the standard rules for utterances apply to them.

True Word of Life
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True Word of Time
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True Word of Flight
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True Word of Negation
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True Word of Perception
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True Word of Puissance
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The First Word
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Epic Truenaming Feats

Epic Truenaming [Epic]
Prerequisites: Truespeak 24 ranks, at least one 4th level utterance from the Lexicon of the Perfected Map known
Benefit: You learn one Epic utterance. Every time you gain a level that would advance your Truenaming you may learn one Epic utterance instead.
The DC to speak an Epic Utterance is 25+2*CR, where 'CR' is the Challenge Rating of the target. The other rules of Truespeak apply to Epic Utterances normally.

Utterance Knowledge [Epic]
Prerequisites: Truespeak 24 ranks, at least one 4th level utterance from the Lexicon of the Perfected Map known
Benefit: You learn two new utterances of any level from any lexicon.
Special: You can gain this feat multiple times. Each time, you learn two new utterances.

Broken Sequence [Epic]
Prerequisites: Truespeak 24 ranks
Benefit: You have learned how to partially ignore the restrictions of reality. You may have two copies of an utterance active at any one time, though they cannot both affect the same creature. This does not apply to Epic utterances.
Normal: You may only have one copy of an utterance active at one time.

Shattered Resistance [Epic]
Prerequisites: Truespeak 27 ranks
Benefit: You have learned how to partially push past the resistance the builds up when using your utterances. The Truespeak DC to use an utterance only increase by 1 with each successive use. This does not apply to Epic utterances.
Normal: The DC to use an utterance increases by 2 with each successive use.

Intensify Utterance [Epic]
Prerequisites: Truespeak 24 ranks, ability to speak utterances.
Benefit: If the utterance is successful, all the variable, numeric effects of the utterance are maximized, then doubled. Saving throws and opposed rolls are not affected, nor are spell without random variables. An intensified utterance has a Truespeak DC 35 higher than normal.

Persistent Utterance [Epic]
Prerequisites: Truespeak 24 ranks, Extend utterance, ability to speak utterances.
Benefit: A Persistent utterance lasts 5 minutes. An utterance with a duration of instantaneous or concentration is not affected by this feat. An utterance cannot be Extended and Persisted. A Persistent utterance has a Truespeak DC 30 higher than normal.

Epic Recitation Feats

All Recitation feats take a full-round action that provokes attacks of opportunity to perform. The Truespeak DC for an Epic Recitation Feat is 15+(2*your HD)+2, and you gain a +4 bonus on this check due your skill at speaking your own personal truename.

Recitation of the Indomitable State [Epic, Recitation]
Prerequisites: Truespeak 24 ranks, ability to speak utterances, must know your own personal truename.
Benefit: While you speak your Recitation of the Indomitable state you inexorably tie the truename of defense into your own personal truename, making yourself an untouchable bastion of defense. All melee and ranged attacks have a 100% miss chance against you, and all of your saving throws are treated as if you rolled a natural 20.

Recitation of the Inert State [Epic, Recitation]
Prerequisites: Truespeak 24 ranks, ability to speak utterances, must know your own personal truename.
Benefit: The Recitation of the Inert State is a last resort, a final and perfect defense against anything and everything the universe has to offer, but at a steep cost. You set your personal truename in stone; unchanging, unyielding, and perfect. While you are speaking the Recitation of the Inert State you cannot take any other action, including Swift or Immediate actions. As long as you continue to speak the Recitation of the Inert State your body and mind become completely unchangeable; though your lips continue to move and speak you are frozen in time. You can observe the world around you, but you can take no actions to change it unless you cease speaking the Recitation. You do not age, nor do you need to eat, sleep, or breath. You cannot be affected or moved in any way; teleportation spells instantly fail, and even removing the earth from beneath your feet would not make you fall.

Recitation of the Watchful State [Epic, Recitation]
Prerequisites: Truespeak 24 ranks, ability to speak utterances, must know your own personal truename.
Benefit: You tell the universe that you can see the world around you with such force and power that nothing remains hidden to your eyes. While you are speaking this utterance no creature within your line of sight is considered hidden or concealed from you, and you are aware of creatures that have total cover from you, though you cannot actually perceive them. No form of magical or nonmagical invisibility or illusion can deceive you. Additionally you can see the true form of any creature under the effects of an Alter Self, Polymorph, Shapechange, or similar spell or ability in addition to its current form.

Recitation of the Omniscient State [Epic, Recitation]
Prerequisites: Truespeak 27 ranks, ability to speak utterances, must know your own personal truename.
Benefit: You intricately wrap words of knowledge and understanding into your personal truename, and your mind expands to fill a void you never knew was present. While speaking this Recitation you gain a +10 perfection bonus on Knowledge checks and any Lore or Bardic Knowledge class feature you may possess.

Recitation of the Divine State [Epic, Recitation]
Prerequisites: Truespeak 30 ranks, ability to speak utterances, must know your own personal truename.
Benefit: You speak your own personal truename with such perfection and precision that reality itself bends its knee. While speaking this Recitation you are treated as a Rank 0 deity. These benefits include a deflection bonus to AC equal to your Charisma bonus, immunity to polymorphing, transmutation, petrification, energy drain, ability drain, ability damage, mind-affecting effects, DR 10/Epic, fire resistance 5, and SR 32. Additionally, any creature, friend or foe, that can perceive you must make a Will Save (DC=10+1/2HD+Cha) or be dazed as long as you continue to speak.
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The Epic Truenamer

In light of the fact that the Wizards of the Coast never bothered to give an Epic progression for their most beloved and well-edited creation, I took the liberty of making a progression all my own, below. The Truenamer's class features don't follow any set patterns (surprise surprise), so I had to use my best judgement.

Hit Die: d6

Skill Points at Each Additional Level: 4 + Int modifier.

Truenamer LevelSpecial
21st-
22ndKnowledge Focus
23rdBonus Feat
24th-
25thBonus Recitation Feat
26thBonus Feat
27thKnowledge Focus
28thSee the Named 2/day
29thBonus Feat
30thKnowledge Focus

Truespeak: A Truenamer's effective caster level is equal to his or her class level. A Truenamer does not learn utterances after 20th level unless he or she selects the Epic Truenaming feat.

Knowledge Focus (ex): As the Truenamer class feature.

See the Named (su): A 28th level Truenamer can use their See the Named class feature twice a day.

Bonus Recitation Feat: A 25th level Truenamer may select an additional Recitation feat.

Bonus Feat: The Epic Truenamer can select a bonus feat (selected from the list of Epic Truenamer bonus feats) every three levels after 20th.

Epic Truenamer Bonus Feat List: Broken Sequence, Energy Resistance, Epic Spell Penetration, Epic Skill Focus, Epic Truenaming, Extended Lifespan, Fast Healing, Great Intelligence, Great Charisma, Intensify Utterance, Persistent Utterance, Polyglot, Shattered Resistance, Utterance Knowledge
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About the reverse TW of Life, I would have put something like "no creature with less HD than your TS rank can use Mettle against this utterance", because I don't think there is anything that may deny evasion normally speaking.

I will add a clause as desintegrate: if the Nd6 damage kill the target, his body is uterly destroyed.
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I agree with the sentiment above. Mostly a nice set of fluffy Save or Sucks/Loses/Dies, and I like them. Oh, and Ao is now a single classed Truenamer.
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The First Word=I win.
Good luck saying it, though.
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About the reverse TW of Life, I would have put something like "no creature with less HD than your TS rank can use Mettle against this utterance", because I don't think there is anything that may deny evasion normally speaking.

I will add a clause as desintegrate: if the Nd6 damage kill the target, his body is uterly destroyed.
I agree with you on the Mettle thing, that definitely needs a limit. I put that clause there in the first place because the damage is supposed to be unpreventable, as in the Words of Nurturing; it felt wrong to make it avoidable simply because I added another effect that did allow a save.

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I agree with the sentiment above. Mostly a nice set of fluffy Save or Sucks/Loses/Dies, and I like them. Oh, and Ao is now a single classed Truenamer.
That's what I was trying for, so I'm glad to hear it.

As for the First Word, I made it along the lines of the Epic spell "Vengeful Gaze of God"; not something a PC should ever be able to use, but damned awesome if they ever pull it off somehow. And I am of the opinion that Truespeak is the source-code of the universe.
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lol, pun-pun just got outclassed by a truenamer (albeit somewhere in the 900's levels...)
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lol, pun-pun just got outclassed by a truenamer (albeit somewhere in the 900's levels...)
Of course not, silly; Pun-Pun has every utterance (and spell, and power) as an at-will Extraordinary ability.

Now that you mention it, I'm not sure how many ranks you need to use that utterance, but it's less than you think. Heck, with enough Artificer's you could do it very early; just have a pile of items granting a +30 (the highest nonepic skill bonus) to Truespeak and then have your hirelings make them grant different bonus types; divine, luck, natural armor (don't ask), profane, etc. You'd still have to be incredibly intelligent, but you could do it before level 100. Maybe. With a lenient DM.

That said, if you do pull it off? You and the DM stand up, shake hands, and switch places. Everyone rolls new characters. The next campaign is yours.
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Needing SMNAIAT to access these means you need to be a Truenamer 20, does it not? Doesn't that mean you can't PrC at all?
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Needing SMNAIAT to access these means you need to be a Truenamer 20, does it not? Doesn't that mean you can't PrC at all?
I was under the impression it just meant you'd be delayed in getting these features while you took more Truenamer levels until you did have twenty.
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Needing SMNAIAT to access these means you need to be a Truenamer 20, does it not? Doesn't that mean you can't PrC at all?
Hm. I suppose I should change that; when I decided to require Say My Name and I Am There I was thinking that there weren't actually any Truenamer Prc's, and I wanted you to have at least 20th level Truenaming. That said, I think "a 5th level Utterance of the Perfected Map" will fill out that requirement without making you forgo PrC's.
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So the fast healing one is an 'I win' button for 5 rounds. Even if you're smacked to -10, you heal back to full -10 next round and keep on going.

Awesome.
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The DC to speak an Epic Utterance is 25+2*CR, where 'CR' is the Challenge Rating of the target. The other rules of Truespeak apply to Epic Utterances normally.
Why the +10 boost?

I don't get why this would be desirable.
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I'm bookmarking this, it's a good progression. The First Word is, of course, purely for role play, and the rest are in no way broken. Plus, it'll still mesh nicely with Kellus' fix if people want to use it because it's not a class progression.
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Word of Time has a duration listed as 1 round, when the text says it lasts 2+ rounds.

That aside, I was just this minute planning to look for an Epic Truenamer, and I may well snag these.

And also: So few people like the "Truenamers are the hackers" theme I insist on applying to them.
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Hm. I suppose I should change that; when I decided to require Say My Name and I Am There I was thinking that there weren't actually any Truenamer Prc's, and I wanted you to have at least 20th level Truenaming. That said, I think "a 5th level Utterance of the Perfected Map" will fill out that requirement without making you forgo PrC's.
Honestly, I think anyone who suffers through the full Truenamer class deserves to have something nice.
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So the fast healing one is an 'I win' button for 5 rounds. Even if you're smacked to -10, you heal back to full -10 next round and keep on going.

Awesome.
Well, if you die you lose your Fast Healing (at least, I'm pretty sure), so it won't help you at -10. At -9 or higher, however, you can feel pretty safe.
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Why the +10 boost?

I don't get why this would be desirable.
It isn't desirable; I added it for balance reasons, or at least to pretend that things are balanced at Epic levels. The only thing it really means is that you won't be able to automatically Quicken your Epic utterances for as long as your regular ones. If anything I think I should up the DC, but I just couldn't bring myself to do it.
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I'm bookmarking this, it's a good progression. The First Word is, of course, purely for role play, and the rest are in no way broken. Plus, it'll still mesh nicely with Kellus' fix if people want to use it because it's not a class progression.
First of all, you have officially made my day.

Secondly, yeah, the First Word wasn't meant to see play, I just couldn't help myself. And while this is meant to be used with the out-of-the-book Truenamer, it should work with Kellus's fix pretty well.
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Word of Time has a duration listed as 1 round, when the text says it lasts 2+ rounds.

That aside, I was just this minute planning to look for an Epic Truenamer, and I may well snag these.

And also: So few people like the "Truenamers are the hackers" theme I insist on applying to them.
1. And that's why it's a WIP.
2. Hurray! I feel very validated.
3. I just can't help but think that when I read their fluff. It suits them.
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1. And that's why it's a WIP.

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I was being helpful, not critical

What? It can happen!
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What? It can happen!
I know you were, silly. That's why I smiled and then changed it.

I want and need any help I can get; if you guys could point out any flaws or odd mistakes I've made it'll just help me make this look more useful and professional, which is my general goal.

Does anyone have any ideas for more Epic utterances? I mostly followed patterns with these, but I'm more than willing to expand to more out-of-the-box things.

Oh, and I've added some Feats. How are they, balance-wise?
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Maybe do an actual Epic progression for the Truenamer class, since there's no official one?
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Maybe do an actual Epic progression for the Truenamer class, since there's no official one?
I like the way you think. Incoming in a few minutes. I have a few good ideas, actually. I suppose that's what the third post will be for.
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Old 10-05-2011, 05:12 PM   Top  -  End  -  #23
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You should add rules for Truespeak checks not used to fuel utterances. Raw, unstructured, just saying "AVOCADOES!" in Truespeak and causing a rain of them. Stuff like imitating Conjuration and Transmutation spells, and a few ultra-powerful compulsions.
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You should add rules for Truespeak checks not used to fuel utterances. Raw, unstructured, just saying "AVOCADOES!" in Truespeak and causing a rain of them. Stuff like imitating Conjuration and Transmutation spells, and a few ultra-powerful compulsions.


Do this please. Maybe an Epic PrC?

If you don't, I will.
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Do this please. Maybe an Epic PrC?

If you don't, I will.
I'll let you have this one, good sir Kobold-Bard. I'm not actually particularly good at homebrew; I just like to complete patterns and follow sequences.

Plus, I have my work cut out for me coming up with new Epic utterances and feats.

Oh, and the Epic Truenamer class progression is up. What do you think?
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Old 10-05-2011, 05:23 PM   Top  -  End  -  #26
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I'll let you have this one, good sir Kobold-Bard. I'm not actually particularly good at homebrew; I just like to complete patterns and follow sequences.

Plus, I have my work cut out for me coming up with new Epic utterances and feats.

Oh, and the Epic Truenamer class progression is up. What do you think?
I might just do that.

And it looks good.
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Old 10-05-2011, 05:26 PM   Top  -  End  -  #27
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FYI, there are no 5th-level utterances in the Lexicon of the Perfected Map. Did you have an oversight, did you plan to implement 5th-level utterances for this in some way, or were you implicitly referring to the paragraph on increasing the spell levels of truenames?
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Thank you very much for trying to make my idea of "Say Avocadoes and it rains them!" real.
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FYI, there are no 5th-level utterances in the Lexicon of the Perfected Map. Did you have an oversight, did you plan to implement 5th-level utterances for this in some way, or were you implicitly referring to the paragraph on increasing the spell levels of truenames?
Whoops, I meant 4th. Once again the collective nitpicking power of the Playground has worked to my advantage. Thank you for the catch.
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I believe with epic progressions you start the chart with 21. It's been a long time since I saw the epic handbook thing, though, so I'm not sure.
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