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Old 11-07-2011, 05:21 PM   Top  -  End  -  #91
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Or failing that, of Phantasm hosting the links somewhere external, such as a private blog?
I don't feel like that's necessary at this stage, and I'd rather it stay on the forum if possible since it is a forum resource of forum posts. If it ever falls so far off the map that I can't update it (and comment saying I did so) without necromancying the thread, I'll just ask for mod permission to update it. After all those options are exhausted then I might consider an off-site blog.

So far it hasn't left the front page. People have been very helpful with suggestions and what not. Eventually it will probably fall off but that's not a big deal.

I'm not sure what advantage an off-site blog would give anywho. People would just bookmark it. And you can do that with this thread anyways, so...
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Old 11-07-2011, 06:04 PM   Top  -  End  -  #93
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I don't feel like that's necessary at this stage, and I'd rather it stay on the forum if possible since it is a forum resource of forum posts. If it ever falls so far off the map that I can't update it (and comment saying I did so) without necromancying the thread, I'll just ask for mod permission to update it. After all those options are exhausted then I might consider an off-site blog.

So far it hasn't left the front page. People have been very helpful with suggestions and what not. Eventually it will probably fall off but that's not a big deal.

I'm not sure what advantage an off-site blog would give anywho. People would just bookmark it. And you can do that with this thread anyways, so...
Plus you can update a thread without bumping it, so I really don't ever see this becoming an issue.

I know I have this thread in my sig for easy reference :)
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Old 11-07-2011, 06:46 PM   Top  -  End  -  #94
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Plus you can update a thread without bumping it, so I really don't ever see this becoming an issue.
But then people won’t know it has been updated. And edits won’t trigger subscription notices either.

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I'm not sure what advantage an off-site blog would give anywho.
People use an RSS subscription to automatically track updates, rather than having a bookmark that they have to actively check all the time. Properly executed, you would be able to send update notices without the problems I listed above—the updates would be visible. And you would be able to make updates without having to worry about the necromancy/bump rules of this site.

Also, you could run it with a CMS that allows several other editors that could make updates to the main index. Currently, you are the only one that can edit the primary index in your posts (Mods and Admins notwithstanding). A shared site would allow you to share maintenance responsibilities with several others, which could be useful if, say, you wind up on an unplanned extended hiatus from this forum.

The primary disadvantage, of course, is that the thing is off-site. But then, the only practical effect that has that differs from this dropping off the front page here is that it won’t show up on GiantITP site-searches (including the Google site:giantitp.com style search).

On a gut level, I don’t particularly care for the off-site thing just because it is off-site. But perhaps the idea actually does have merit. Not like my gut is omniscient or anything.
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Old 11-08-2011, 10:29 PM   Top  -  End  -  #95
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I thought there had been word from Roland that it was fine for the OP to add to a thread past the necromancy date, provided that the thread is used primarily for cataloguing information rather than discussion?

(Even without official word, that certainly seem to be the way it works in practice.)
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Old 11-09-2011, 12:31 AM   Top  -  End  -  #96
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How's that ironic?

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I'm a big fan of this thread. Thank you for the work, Phantasm, it's a major contribution to OOTSlore.

But the value is kinda limited if it's just another thread that will, in a few weeks' time, drop off the message board.

Is there any chance of getting it stickied? Or failing that, of Phantasm hosting the links somewhere external, such as a private blog?
Nope. But we'll do what we did with the Discussion Index, bump it.
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Old 11-09-2011, 11:50 AM   Top  -  End  -  #97
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How's that ironic?
He changed the name to Malack, because he didn't want it to have any religious connotation. It's turns out Malack actually does have one.
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Do you think the Giant's recent statement on translations should be added here? It's not like it comes up very often, but it could be useful.
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Old 11-09-2011, 04:02 PM   Top  -  End  -  #99
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He changed the name to Malack, because he didn't want it to have any religious connotation. It's turns out Malack actually does have one.
It's still spelled differently though...
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It's still spelled differently though...
So was the original name, right? But I don't think it would have mattered what name he gave Malack, really. We argue about a lot of dumb things on this forum, but name origins doesn't really seem to be one of them
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So was the original name, right? But I don't think it would have mattered what name he gave Malack, really. We argue about a lot of dumb things on this forum, but name origins doesn't really seem to be one of them
...I'm not sure what you mean. He made the name different do it wouldn't be religious, and them mm said it was ironic because it turned out to be religious anyway. But if the different spelling was all that mattered, it still is, so it isn't ironic.
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But if the different spelling was all that mattered, it still is, so it isn't ironic.
That's the thing, it doesn't matter that it was spelled differently. Like if I named a character "Jeezus" or something. So he says he wants to avoid a quasi-religious connotation, but ends up switching it to something with an equally quasi-religious connotation by accident. There's the irony.

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I'll grant that on the international "bunny to caltrop" scale of cuddliness he's not a bunny, but I wouldn't put him above a three.
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He tends to only comment when someone is wrong or leveling false accusations. I find it impressive he responds to accusations of racism/sexism, deus ex machinas and people assuming belkar is good with the same attitude that he responds to idle queries about soon's history. Shows he is being detached and professional. He's just not as luvy duvy as the rest of the Playgrounders are.
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Considering some of the wildly absurd and inaccurate diatribes and theories that get floated around here, not to mention how often his work gets called cliche and derivative of TVTropes of all things (by his fans no less), I honestly find Mr. Burlew shows extraordinary restraint in his responses. Plus, he's got a comic to write.

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Old 11-14-2011, 06:56 PM   Top  -  End  -  #108
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It's still spelled differently though...
Yeah, one is in Hebrew and the other an English transliteration.

It's IMPOSSIBLE for there to be a correct spelling in English for a Hebrew word unless the word has been taken into the English language. (AKA amen and hallelujah). Malach, Malakh, and Malack are all either equally correct or equally incorrect.
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Please stop discussing whether or not you like Rich's tone in his responses. 1) You should read the context surrounding the comments before making a rush to judgment. 2) It feels like you are accusing him of something publicly when you know how to address your concerns to him in private via pm. 3) I don't want this thread locked for any reason if we can help it. Don't toe the line please.
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Personally, I would say no. But then, you've also accused me of constantly sounding angry and jerkish, so take that with however much salt seems appropriate.

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I gotta agree with ThePhantasm. Can we cut out this stuff about the tone of the Giant’s comments?
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Yeah, we should probably stay away from discussing perceived tones from The Giant's posts. I like this thread...
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Yes.

I'm wondering if it might be possible to find what (if anything) The Giant said about Thor- I think there was something about him being more based on the Marvel version than the Norse Mythology version in personality, but I haven't been able to find it.
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Yes.

I'm wondering if it might be possible to find what (if anything) The Giant said about Thor- I think there was something about him being more based on the Marvel version than the Norse Mythology version in personality, but I haven't been able to find it.
It got lost to one of the many thread purges.

Here is one instance of it still being in the Wayback Machine (Post #21 to be precise). I believe that the second page of that thread has been lost to the mists of time, though.

If ThePhantasm thinks it is OK, I can paste it here in this thread as a separate post that can be directly linked to. But if ThePhantasm is worried about reposting deleted posts, a link to the Wayback Machine Archive of the thread should suffice.
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Here is one instance of it still being in the Wayback Machine (Post #21 to be precise). I believe that the second page of that thread has been lost to the mists of time, though.
Wow, great use of the Wayback Machine. I'm wondering though what info in that quote might be helpful - the Giant doesn't actually say that he based Thor off of the Marvel version. It seems to me he says the OOTS Thor is The Giant's Thor and not based on anyone else's. I suppose that could be included, but now that we are this far along in the comic and have seen quite a bit of Thor's wacky ways, perhaps it would be superfluous / unnecessary? I'm open to being persuaded either way.
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Sheriff of Moddingham: Please keep this thread on topic and away from name calling. The rules on flaming here look unfavorably on calling someone a {pejorative noun} or saying that someone "comes off like a {pejorative noun}" or even "comes off {pejorative adjective}."

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I'm wondering though what info in that quote might be helpful - the Giant doesn't actually say that he based Thor off of the Marvel version. It seems to me he says the OOTS Thor is The Giant's Thor and not based on anyone else's. I suppose that could be included, but now that we are this far along in the comic and have seen quite a bit of Thor's wacky ways, perhaps it would be superfluous / unnecessary? I'm open to being persuaded either way.
At the very least it's useful in a FAQ sort of way since three of the more often raised questions/statements are:

1) I heard that Rich said that Thor is based on the Marvel Thor. Does anyone have a link to that post?
2) What's up with a lawful Durkon worshiping Thor anyways? In the Deities and Demigods book it says Thor is chaotic good, so Durkon can't worship Thor.

The second one shows that Thor isn't based on the D&D Thor which also means we don't know his alignment for certain. And even if we have seen more behavior of a "wacky Thor" it still is one of the few comments we have on the possible Thor/Durkon argument that comes up a lot.
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2) What's up with a lawful Durkon worshiping Thor anyways? In the Deities and Demigods book it says Thor is chaotic good, so Durkon can't worship Thor.
As is said pretty much every time that comes up, the "close to your god's alignment" thing is a world rule, not a general D&D rule; it doesn't apply in Eberron, for example, so why shouldn't it be an invalid rule in the Stickverse too?
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2) What's up with a lawful Durkon worshiping Thor anyways? In the Deities and Demigods book it says Thor is chaotic good, so Durkon can't worship Thor.
I recall seeing somewhere that Rich said his for was lawful good, but I'm not sure on that and would have no idea where to begin looking.
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