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I've got something inspired again by a request from the IRC. One of Raz's characters this time, and more innocent than the last nurse pic:
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Yeah, there are quite a few things wrong with this, but I'm just glad I got it finished. It's not terrible for my first vixen picture, I suppose...
She's cute! Only two points I'd like to make: First, it looks like each of her legs are bending in a different direction. Second, what's that extra line under her nose?
Last couple of days haven't been very productive, but I'll post what I've got.
Day 51, AJ uses her lasso, while jumping. A practice sketch for part of the big animation.
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This is a weird one, because I don't actually know if I like it or not. I just don't. It's an odd feeling. Clearly something is off.
Day 52, boring leg practice:
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Day 53 (today), more leg practice, this time drawing over a tutorial pic I had, 'cos it's just easier that way.
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Originally Posted by SiuiS
Diego Havoc, one of the hoopier froods I've met, up there with DeLancie.
It's just flats, which I guess is show accurate...The eye gradients aren't show accurate though, they need the gradient as well as the two tone split thingy. Not really much to say on the colouring front because it is just flats :-/
Those are shoulders? I was always under the impression that was their belly bulges.
I think so. This is an overhead view of the ponies bodies. They look pear shaped; wide at the hips and narrowing towards the head. I'm assuming the other, smaller bulge is their shoulders.
Just my thoughts on the screencaps. The bulge in Pinkie might be shoulders, but they'd be a little large based on how low the legs seem to end. That and it would put the legs in front of the shoulders, but I'm pretty sure they'd need to be back behind the chest if that was the case. Not too sure with pony anatomy. I don't think it would put the neck in front of the shoulders without a better defined chest though. For Pinkie I think the larger bulge leading to her back leg is more just her flank moved slightly to the side to show her at a bit of an angle. As you said, ponies are pear-shaped, so the artists would need to show the pony getting fatter as you move back or it would look really weird.
As for the second picture, there are a few ponies with visible legs in it and they don't seem to have defined shoulders any more than the others. The legs just seem to come out of the skinnier part. Of course they also don't have defined flanks, so it could be that the artists just chose to draw them without either from the top to keep the style simple.
That angle is so hard to draw. I have no idea if I got those back legs right, I could not find a decent reference.
Also I forgot to erase the lines around the eyes. But I did remember the cutie marks at the very last minute.
The back legs look like they're upside down, maybe move the leg itself up more and straighten the curve of the flank at the top and instead curve the bottom part of it. I'd swear there was a scene in the show that had that angle, but I can't for the life of me figure out what it was. Going to have to do some digging and see if I can find it.
Well, I got settled in after moving and begun to draw again. I felt the urge to draw ponies.
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Day 56 (lines) & 57 (colour)
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That angle is so hard to draw. I have no idea if I got those back legs right, I could not find a decent reference.
Also I forgot to erase the lines around the eyes. But I did remember the cutie marks at the very last minute.
Congrats on keeping up with the daily drawing!
I'm slightly jealous, I need to start doing something like that.
On the picture,
That is a hard angle. I agree with Kyouhen's comment on the legs and flank. I feel that from that angle the flank end would look flatish with a single curve.
Here's a lazy crude doodle.
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I always figured that horse's bodies were like barrels and the feet were underneath the body, thus from such a angle you would see the end of the "barrel body" part. I hope that makes sense. I'm not too sure if this is correct or not though, so any other input would be nice.
Well, here's some pony.
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Off model slightly humanized Vampire Rarity and Sweetie Belle! This came from a comment on my devianart page about how Sweetie Belle was going vamp on Big Mac on one of my old pictures. I found I couldn't stop thinking about vampire ponies, so this happened.
Crooked towers, lazy moon, and Rarity's cloak is a magical dramatic cloak. It's actually size and weight changes so it always at it's most dramatic. Yeah, that's my story and I'm sticking to it.
Rarity and Sweetie Belle's hair is off model, honestly I stopped trying to perfectly replicate the hair and started to wing it to varying results.
There is no perspective on this picture. After practicing it so long, it's somewhat liberating, even if it makes me feel guilty.
I'm still working on coloring that other picture, I just took a break from it and wanted to do something else.
Congrats on keeping up with the daily drawing!
I'm slightly jealous, I need to start doing something like that.
Then do it!
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Originally Posted by Bakuel
On the picture,
That is a hard angle. I agree with Kyouhen's comment on the legs and flank. I feel that from that angle the flank end would look flatish with a single curve.
Here's a lazy crude doodle.
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I always figured that horse's bodies were like barrels and the feet were underneath the body, thus from such a angle you would see the end of the "barrel body" part. I hope that makes sense. I'm not too sure if this is correct or not though, so any other input would be nice.
Yep, that looks about right.
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Originally Posted by Bakuel
Well, here's some pony.
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Off model slightly humanized Vampire Rarity and Sweetie Belle! This came from a comment on my devianart page about how Sweetie Belle was going vamp on Big Mac on one of my old pictures. I found I couldn't stop thinking about vampire ponies, so this happened.
Crooked towers, lazy moon, and Rarity's cloak is a magical dramatic cloak. It's actually size and weight changes so it always at it's most dramatic. Yeah, that's my story and I'm sticking to it.
Rarity and Sweetie Belle's hair is off model, honestly I stopped trying to perfectly replicate the hair and started to wing it to varying results.
There is no perspective on this picture. After practicing it so long, it's somewhat liberating, even if it makes me feel guilty.
I'm still working on coloring that other picture, I just took a break from it and wanted to do something else.
Wow, that's some nice work. I hope we get to see it coloured.
The back legs look like they're upside down, maybe move the leg itself up more and straighten the curve of the flank at the top and instead curve the bottom part of it. I'd swear there was a scene in the show that had that angle, but I can't for the life of me figure out what it was. Going to have to do some digging and see if I can find it.
...You're right. How did I manage that?
Other problems I noticed: at that angle, the tail looks like it's coming out of her rear; I forgot her eyelashes; her teeth are wrong: they should start at the edges and fade towards the middle, I've done the opposite.
Back to the drawing board.
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Originally Posted by Bakuel
Congrats on keeping up with the daily drawing!
I'm slightly jealous, I need to start doing something like that.
Thanks very much! The drawing every day thing has helped, though it drives me barmy sometimes.
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On the picture,
That is a hard angle. I agree with Kyouhen's comment on the legs and flank. I feel that from that angle the flank end would look flatish with a single curve.
Here's a lazy crude doodle.
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I always figured that horse's bodies were like barrels and the feet were underneath the body, thus from such a angle you would see the end of the "barrel body" part. I hope that makes sense. I'm not too sure if this is correct or not though, so any other input would be nice.
Hmmm, I see. Not quite sure though. I found a pic of Dash flying from behind, and it looks like her heel (the part that looks like a backwards knee to us) should be drawn on. I'll do some experimentation.
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Well, here's some pony.
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Very cool, and I don't even like vampires, but they just look so stylish! And I like the warped towers in the background.
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Originally Posted by Dirtbag
Still trying to learn. Just not uploading everything.
I still have troubles with the mouth. It's not like a potato. :<
I also can't get the hair down. It's so... wild.
I also just realized I forgot the wings in most of them. XD
Looks quite good, though that fourth one has tiny head Fluttershy with huge hair ^^:
Just be careful with your proportions and you'll be fine!
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Just call me Diego. Mr. Havoc was my father.
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Originally Posted by SiuiS
Diego Havoc, one of the hoopier froods I've met, up there with DeLancie.
Day 58, fixing Rainbow. I've redone the legs, so that they hopefully look a little better. Also changed her teeth to look better, added eye lashes and erased the black lines around her eyes, and centred her tail properly. Lemme know what you think.
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And since I broke the link to the previous version, here it is for posterity.
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Originally Posted by SiuiS
Diego Havoc, one of the hoopier froods I've met, up there with DeLancie.
Still trying to learn. Just not uploading everything.
I still have troubles with the mouth. It's not like a potato. :<
I also can't get the hair down. It's so... wild.
I also just realized I forgot the wings in most of them. XD
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These look good! The second one is spot on, that's a wonderful even coloring technique you got going on there. Are they markers? I personally am very bad at all traditional forms of coloring, so kudos on that.
I must parrot Diego Havoc on proportions though, the bottom one needs it the most, and it seems that it is the pose which doesn't have a clear reference. And I don't see any pencil lines to signify that you did any pre-drawing like the second to last with a clear circle for head and pear-ish shape for the body, though you may have erased them. The thing which helps the most with proportions is to sketch out the circles for the head and body first before moving on to the details.
Pony hair is hard and full of curvy lines, but you actually seem to be doing ok curve wise. If you work out the proportions it should be great.
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Originally Posted by Diego Havoc
Hmmm, I see. Not quite sure though. I found a pic of Dash flying from behind, and it looks like her heel (the part that looks like a backwards knee to us) should be drawn on. I'll do some experimentation.
I think you're right on the heel part. Can you post the picture? For a reference? Weird pony poses are always needed.
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Very cool, and I don't even like vampires, but they just look so stylish! And I like the warped towers in the background.
Thanks!
I'm not the biggest fan, but I do have a small soft spot for vampires, not so much serious business cool modern vampires, but old fashion overly dramatic count style vampires. They just seem to fit Rarity and Sweetie Belle.
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Day 58, fixing Rainbow. I've redone the legs, so that they hopefully look a little better. Also changed her teeth to look better, added eye lashes and erased the black lines around her eyes, and centred her tail properly. Lemme know what you think.
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And since I broke the link to the previous version, here it is for posterity.
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The new one looks great! I can't really think of anything to nitpick on it.
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[b] Also, Bakuel, dat's amazing. I can't wait to see it colored.
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Wow, that's some nice work. I hope we get to see it coloured.
Thanks for the kind words, I'll try to get on it. I need to actually finish a picture! It has been a couple of months now...
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Then do it!
Well here goes nothing!
Day 1,
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Luna eating ice cream and two medieval time characters in medieval time hoods! Took about two hours. I need to draw faster and stop getting distracted. I have never drawn Luna before, so I decided to take a whack at it. Not much to say.
I need to work on my canine expressions, I used to be better at this type of thing.
Luna's hair started to remind me of split milk. And I decided to draw her hoofs on the ice cream cone. True, she would use magic, but it's more amusing this way. At least I think so. The hoofs aren't connected to her body right even if the shoulders and body are invisible. Practice, practice and more practice.
Luna eating ice cream and two medieval time characters in medieval time hoods! Took about two hours. I need to draw faster and stop getting distracted. I have never drawn Luna before, so I decided to take a whack at it. Not much to say.
I need to work on my canine expressions, I used to be better at this type of thing.
Luna's hair started to remind me of split milk. And I decided to draw her hoofs on the ice cream cone. True, she would use magic, but it's more amusing this way. At least I think so. The hoofs aren't connected to her body right even if the shoulders and body are invisible. Practice, practice and more practice.
Ooo, very nice for a Day 1. Could I get a general assessment of your abilities and art background? Also, do you have a tablet or any access to digital tools? Any experience in other art mediums than sketching? Inking?
Your linework is generally pretty solid and everything looks pretty well proportioned
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Urgle. I am worst droid; I've been in kind of a funk lately, and although I've still been drawing, it's been mostly quick'n'dirty sketches, nothing I feel like posting. I am glad to see that folks are back to posting; I was a little worried we were beginning to lose everyone!
Still, please keep up the good work and feel free to always post your stuff; the more, the merrier!
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Looks quite good, though that fourth one has tiny head Fluttershy with huge hair ^^:
Just be careful with your proportions and you'll be fine!
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Originally Posted by Bakuel
These look good! The second one is spot on, that's a wonderful even coloring technique you got going on there. Are they markers? I personally am very bad at all traditional forms of coloring, so kudos on that.
I must parrot Diego Havoc on proportions though, the bottom one needs it the most, and it seems that it is the pose which doesn't have a clear reference. And I don't see any pencil lines to signify that you did any pre-drawing like the second to last with a clear circle for head and pear-ish shape for the body, though you may have erased them. The thing which helps the most with proportions is to sketch out the circles for the head and body first before moving on to the details.
Pony hair is hard and full of curvy lines, but you actually seem to be doing ok curve wise. If you work out the proportions it should be great.
They are Stabilo pens from Germany, or at least, that's where I get them from. I don't do much drawing outside of Pencil/Tablet, but these marker/pen things are amazing and they also last pretty long.
I did pre-drawing for all of them, but I've always had troubles with proportions, which is why I pretty much gave up on learning anime and cartoon drawing. I've only started drawing again because others have asked me to draw things for them. The two better ones are just copies, but they really helped me get a flow. The First and last one are both free hand and I didn't use the reference. I feel squicky about just copying things so I have to make new concepts to make myself happy.
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Originally Posted by Bakuel
Day 1,
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Luna eating ice cream and two medieval time characters in medieval time hoods! Took about two hours. I need to draw faster and stop getting distracted. I have never drawn Luna before, so I decided to take a whack at it. Not much to say.
I need to work on my canine expressions, I used to be better at this type of thing.
Luna's hair started to remind me of split milk. And I decided to draw her hoofs on the ice cream cone. True, she would use magic, but it's more amusing this way. At least I think so. The hoofs aren't connected to her body right even if the shoulders and body are invisible. Practice, practice and more practice.
OMG I'm so jelly. :<
And I think the spilt milk flowing into her hair is cool. XD
Sad Derpy is sad. 8C
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Originally Posted by the_druid_droid
Urgle. I am worst droid; I've been in kind of a funk lately, and although I've still been drawing, it's been mostly quick'n'dirty sketches, nothing I feel like posting. I am glad to see that folks are back to posting; I was a little worried we were beginning to lose everyone!
Still, please keep up the good work and feel free to always post your stuff; the more, the merrier!
:< I hope you feel better soon Droid. With huggles~ *Hugs*
I think you're right on the heel part. Can you post the picture? For a reference? Weird pony poses are always needed.
Sure. I took these pics from Sonic Rainboom. Both are from behind, rather than in front like my pic, but I felt they gave a good sense of how the back legs go when a pegasus flies.
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I'm still looking for a pose similar to the one I did, but no luck so far.
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Originally Posted by Bakuel
The new one looks great! I can't really think of anything to nitpick on it.
yay
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Originally Posted by the_druid_droid
Urgle. I am worst droid; I've been in kind of a funk lately, and although I've still been drawing, it's been mostly quick'n'dirty sketches, nothing I feel like posting. I am glad to see that folks are back to posting; I was a little worried we were beginning to lose everyone!
Still, please keep up the good work and feel free to always post your stuff; the more, the merrier!
Aw, don't let it get to you. We've all had bad days.
Speaking of which, I found this today. It's something I think we should all bare in mind.
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And I'm glad people are back too! For a while there I was worried the thread was going to die.
Today I did some rough outlines for a picture I had in mind, but Photoshop was acting dodgy for some reason so I didn't get that far. I'll hopefully have better luck tomorrow.
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Just call me Diego. Mr. Havoc was my father.
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Originally Posted by SiuiS
Diego Havoc, one of the hoopier froods I've met, up there with DeLancie.
Ooo, very nice for a Day 1. Could I get a general assessment of your abilities and art background? Also, do you have a tablet or any access to digital tools? Any experience in other art mediums than sketching? Inking?
Your linework is generally pretty solid and everything looks pretty well proportioned
Thank you!
Here's an art bio blurb,
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On art background,
I have been drawing since forever, ever since I was a wee babe. But it was during my teenager years that I started to try to take it seriously and I starting to draw in "anime style" (It would be a disgrace to even call that generic drivel manga style...). During my college years, I begin to move away and try to develop my own style. During my last year of college, I started to realized my "style" was just a crutch and started to try to draw a wider variety of things. And here I am. Three or so years later. Drawing ponies.
On the technical skills,
I grew up only drawing with number 2 pencils and copier paper. I have no traditional art education. Until recently with the pony stuff, I had no experience coloring things and no experience inking things. For the past five years or so I've been using a wacom tablet, my skills with pencils has suffered. Not that it was ever great, due to the lack of traditional art education I only recently realized that I was holding the pencil wrong the whole time! What a twist!
I lean toward conceptual/character designs and draft pencil work, it's like I spent my whole life practicing to be a traditional comic book penciler, focusing on rough drafts of scenes rather then creating a finished clean product.
On interests,
My art interests are general medieval and ancient history, fantasy, people, animals, animal people, monsters, fan art, and ponies.
On other art-ish stuff,
The other art things I do is make mediocre historically accurate-ish low-poly models for civilization 4 mods. And I world build and plot out story concepts. And that's it.
In short, mediocre amateur penciler/sketcher, character concept/design, guy with no inking or coloring skills, wacom user, and who loves ponies.
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Originally Posted by the_druid_droid
Urgle. I am worst droid; I've been in kind of a funk lately, and although I've still been drawing, it's been mostly quick'n'dirty sketches, nothing I feel like posting. I am glad to see that folks are back to posting; I was a little worried we were beginning to lose everyone!
Still, please keep up the good work and feel free to always post your stuff; the more, the merrier!
Sorry for disappearing for a couple of weeks! Now I feel bad...
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Originally Posted by Dirtbag
They are Stabilo pens from Germany, or at least, that's where I get them from. I don't do much drawing outside of Pencil/Tablet, but these marker/pen things are amazing and they also last pretty long.
I did pre-drawing for all of them, but I've always had troubles with proportions, which is why I pretty much gave up on learning anime and cartoon drawing. I've only started drawing again because others have asked me to draw things for them. The two better ones are just copies, but they really helped me get a flow. The First and last one are both free hand and I didn't use the reference. I feel squicky about just copying things so I have to make new concepts to make myself happy.
I'll have to look into getting some of those markers...
On proportions I don't think you need to worry. I don't know how long you've been trying to get cartoony stuff down, but as far as I know, everyone has trouble with proportions, I honestly never met anyone who said that proportions just came naturally. I've been drawing for years, but it's only been in the last 2-3 years that my general proportions became passable and I'm still trying to get it right. I've produced a lot of drivel over the years, and am still making it on off days...
You could try to just focus on the basic circles of the pony body, I use a circle for the head and two slightly smaller connected circles for the body. it's boring practice but it helps.
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OMG I'm so jelly. :<
And I think the spilt milk flowing into her hair is cool. XD
Sad Derpy is sad. 8C
Thank you!
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Originally Posted by Diego Havoc
Sure. I took these pics from Sonic Rainboom. Both are from behind, rather than in front like my pic, but I felt they gave a good sense of how the back legs go when a pegasus flies.
I'm still looking for a pose similar to the one I did, but no luck so far.
Thanks, these will really help!
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Originally Posted by Diego Havoc
Speaking of which, I found this today. It's something I think we should all bare in mind.
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There is much truth in this.
Oddly enough, recently when I was in a highschool art class a student asked me if I do any art and if I was any good, I tried to explain that I do art things but as far as skill level is concerned I had reached a mediocre amateur block which I can't seem to get past... He looked at me like I was insane. This poster puts it in much better words.
Day 2,
More pony,
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A lazy doodle, I'll draw a complete pony tomorrow. Or a complete person. I seem to be in a head only mood.
Had a somewhat bad/good day at work today. A day of highs and deep lows. Then I started to wonder if Cheerilee had days like this. I wonder if after having to listen to some of the more ignorant comments from say, Snips and Snails, she starts to wonder if she should have done something else with her life. Her mind probably starts to drift back to all of the opportunities and choices she had. Perhaps she should have accepted that invitation to join a New Wave rock band or something, made it big.
And that's a apple with a bite mark in it and a overlarge leaf.
I wanted her face to be pressed up against the desk, but now her cheeks are too fat. Maybe she's still chewing that apple bite... Oh well, there's always tomorrow.
Sorry for disappearing for a couple of weeks! Now I feel bad...
Oh, no worries! I was just wondering where people were; I totally understand that things get busy or inspiration can flicker and so forth. I was just trying to express that I was happy to see the activity picking up again.
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Day 2,
More pony,
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A lazy doodle, I'll draw a complete pony tomorrow. Or a complete person. I seem to be in a head only mood.
Had a somewhat bad/good day at work today. A day of highs and deep lows. Then I started to wonder if Cheerilee had days like this. I wonder if after having to listen to some of the more ignorant comments from say, Snips and Snails, she starts to wonder if she should have done something else with her life. Her mind probably starts to drift back to all of the opportunities and choices she had. Perhaps she should have accepted that invitation to join a New Wave rock band or something, made it big.
And that's a apple with a bite mark in it and a overlarge leaf.
I wanted her face to be pressed up against the desk, but now her cheeks are too fat. Maybe she's still chewing that apple bite... Oh well, there's always tomorrow.
Ooh! I really like this, and I think Cheerilee's expression is quite good - the cheeks in particular look flattened against the desk, which I think is what you were going for. I am sorry to hear that work was crazy for you though...
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Ooh! I really like this, and I think Cheerilee's expression is quite good - the cheeks in particular look flattened against the desk, which I think is what you were going for. I am sorry to hear that work was crazy for you though...
Thank you! I was worried that I over exaggerated on the cheeks.
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It looks like Birdo...
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I actually really, really, like this one.
The design isn't show accurate, but it is very unique with the larger hairdo and more "manga-ish?" style eyes. It's very cartoony but in a different style besides the show and still looks and feels like Pinkie. The mouth part does look a bit like Birdo, but it doesn't look that bad. The curves and circles in her hair are wonderful. I don't know if you are trying to develop your own style of drawing ponies, but it works and is very nice!
My only nit-pick would be that the nose doesn't seem to sit between the eyes, but this may be a part of a more abstract style you are leaning toward. Perhaps you can lengthen the line to go between the eyes, or attach the nose line to the farthest eye like they do in the show.
You should do one with a body!
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Keeping up with this is hard, I don't know if I'll make it till the end of the week. Maybe I'll try to do a 3-5 sketch a week challenge...
Anyway, here is a one hour doodle of a Twilight Rapidash. It's pretty bad. She's supposed to be breathing flames, yet she could also be sucking them up with a straw. The flames are lazy, I need to learn a good way to draw a abstract flames quickly. Yeah, there are a million things wrong with this one. But I wanted to only take roughly a hour long to force myself to draw and make better judgements on the fly.
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