Clan units had double heat sinks while IS ones had single models. Thus Clan mechs ran cooler than the IS versions. This is generally ignored in the video games thus far.
To my knowledge, all game take place after 3050; when the grey death core had been long since recovered and a massive amount of data was being deciphered. Double Heat sinks were the first thing all the Successor States reverse engineered.
Um, not sure if this counts or not but a least im MW4 the clan weapons did generate more heat than the IC equifalents.
The Clan energy weapons generate more heat, as you're comparing ER to standard. The Sphere has access to ER energy tech, but they don't see the Clan's boost in laser damage or all of the extra range. In the end, if heat is a primary concern (which it often is in IS laser 'Mechs, though even IS Double Heat Sinks help with that problem), you'll probably want to stick with the standard lasers, which generate less heat than the ER versions.
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This may be an odd question that I must have missed somewhere, but, um, how does the game work?
Is it planet-side open world grab a gun and start shooting, or is it going to be like world of tanks, where you matchmake in?
We don't know yet. I would assume something similar to the latter.
We don't know yet. I would assume something similar to the latter.
I'm kind of hoping for more open world stuff. Shifting objectives, skirmishes that keep escalating, then someone brings in an assault lance and all hell breaks loose.
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Is it planet-side open world grab a gun and start shooting, or is it going to be like world of tanks, where you matchmake in?
From what they've said about the world persistence, I'd expect it to be something like Chromehounds. A persistent online map fought over by three or more factions, your squad can move between factions, and you get into games by choosing a battle (ie. choosing a map and gamemode) and it matchmakes you into a game of that game type on that map. Whoever wins earns some points for their faction towards controlling that planet.
From what they've said about the world persistence, I'd expect it to be something like Chromehounds. A persistent online map fought over by three or more factions, your squad can move between factions, and you get into games by choosing a battle (ie. choosing a map and gamemode) and it matchmakes you into a game of that game type on that map. Whoever wins earns some points for their faction towards controlling that planet.
This is kinda what I am hoping for too with wins earning you rep with whatever house you declare for as a merc.
They have said that maps will be a conquest mode rather than a deathmatch like World of Tanks, so we will have points to capture and actual objectives besides just blowing up the other side.
This is kinda what I am hoping for too with wins earning you rep with whatever house you declare for as a merc.
They have said that maps will be a conquest mode rather than a deathmatch like World of Tanks, so we will have points to capture and actual objectives besides just blowing up the other side.
It's Mechwarrior. Blowing up the other side is the best objective of all.
Actually, a mechanic I hope to see.
If a certain group holds a certain objective for too long, Clan just drop out of the sky and come try and take it. In ever increasing waves.
It would make for some fun sneaky backstabby stuff.
"Okay fellas, we gotta take that facility back or... wait what's that? Oh crap, Clan. Lets see how this goes down."
PvP based very very heavily around the theory that "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" ...for now.
But if that doesn't happen I won't lose sleep. Just think it would be cool, once the clan invasion starts. Especially on clan controlled worlds.
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To my knowledge, all game take place after 3050; when the grey death core had been long since recovered and a massive amount of data was being deciphered. Double Heat sinks were the first thing all the Successor States reverse engineered.
Edit: Note, this is from what I gleaned of Sarna & other Wikis. I inferred dates with the tildes. Feel free to impress me with your upbergeekdom by correcting my pathetic stupidity.
Out of curiosity, do you guys prefer the Inner Sphere names for the mechs or the Clan ones? I prefer the clan names but I'm biased; Mechwarrior 2 used the Clan names and not only was that where I got introduced to BattleTech, it was the first video game I had ever played ever. As a result, every time I hear someone call the Timber Wolf a Mad Cat, I die a little inside.
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Out of curriousity, do you guys prefer the Inner Sphere names for the mechs or the Clan ones? I prefer the clan names but I'm biased; Mechwarrior 2 used the Clan names and not only was that where I got introduced to BattleTech, it was the first video game I had ever played ever. As a result, everytime I hear someone call the Timber Wolf a Mad Cat, I die a little inside.
Depends on the name. I like Timber Wolf and Mad Cat about equally. I like Dire Wolf way better than Daishi. And so on.
Its now being ran by Catalyst Game Labs. From what I've heard its been making a fairly strong comeback the last few years, though not really having an idea of where it was 15-20 years ago and how far it dropped, I don't really know what that really means. Seems to be a decent group of players in Phoenix when I was down there. But where I'm at now I'm really the only player, but where I'm at now they pretty much only play 40k, so its not exactly a diverse set of people, its also an area without a lot of people.
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They've recently released the 25th Anniversary Introductory Box Set, though it came a bit late. My university's gaming association's resident mecha GM bought the box when it came out, and his BattleTech group got to help him break it in.
3044 till 3052. Covers up to the battle of Tukayyid. Game was interesting as you can buy new mechs and techs as they come on line in the years prior to the invasion. And then get curbstomped anyway until you can salvage some decent clan tech weapons and chassis, and enough to field replacements...
They've recently released the 25th Anniversary Introductory Box Set, though it came a bit late. My university's gaming association's resident mecha GM bought the box when it came out, and his BattleTech group got to help him break it in.
There's also megamek/mekwars, which are free, legal implementations of the ruleset. Megamek is the tabletop engine itself, while mekwars is campaign software.
Its now being ran by Catalyst Game Labs. From what I've heard its been making a fairly strong comeback the last few years, though not really having an idea of where it was 15-20 years ago and how far it dropped, I don't really know what that really means. Seems to be a decent group of players in Phoenix when I was down there. But where I'm at now I'm really the only player, but where I'm at now they pretty much only play 40k, so its not exactly a diverse set of people, its also an area without a lot of people.
Basically 40k got more mainstream and a ton of folks moved to that and it got a bit more rare to see anyone playing it at all. Recent attempts at reviving the title with the Dark Ages heroclix style games haven't made it come back fully but are helping with the name at least.
Of course... I come from back in the days of Rogue Trader when we had to order Imperial Robots and anything else from the UK and convert currency to british pounds etc. There were a lot more Battletech players back then, as well as historicals and things like that.
We had a boost in sci fi games in the early 90s with things like Full Thrust and such but then GW came along strong around 2000 and basically decimated the competition with their own stores in the mall. This decade has about 90% of the folks playing 40k or Warhammer in my local stores, due to the way that GW markets their products.
I seriously believe it is now easier to market an indie video game than an indie tabletop. Not that Battletech is indie, but it has tried very hard to make a comeback with catalyst at the helm.
Is there anywhere that still sells the 25th Anniversary box set, or was it a limited edition run?
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Is there anywhere that still sells the 25th Anniversary box set, or was it a limited edition run?
I got it from the FLGS that I frequent, but I haven't seen another copy for a while. I've seen some books that are published/republished, but not even a model expansion set or anything.
Just checked the Catalyst site. The Box Set is "not in stock". They do seem to have stock for all the various books themselves. I'm a little sad there's not an apparent producer of new models.
Reaper Miniatures has some minis that are similar, but I am not sure if they are quite on the same scale... there are also the heroclix ones but I think they are discontinued now?
Be careful to not cut yourself with the rough edges the game has, and have fun! Also, you just broke the NDA.
EDIT: It seems there has been a wave of fake invites because the devs derped a bit and sent only the e-mails. Maybe that's the reason of you having to fill that survey.
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Be careful to not cut yourself with the rough edges the game has, and have fun! Also, you just broke the NDA.
EDIT: It seems there has been a wave of fake invites because the devs derped a bit and sent only the e-mails. Maybe that's the reason of you having to fill that survey.
I haven't been given a non-Disclosure agreement to sign yet. Besides, they already announced that there is a closed beta, so I wasn't saying anything no one already knew, except that I got invited.
And the survey was mainly on my gaming experience to free to play games, mechwarrior games, hours I play, and specs for the computer I'm using. Pretty much the exact same thing I filled out when I signed up to Blizzard to play their beta games as well. Except (again) this time I got invited.
Be careful to not cut yourself with the rough edges the game has, and have fun! Also, you just broke the NDA.
EDIT: It seems there has been a wave of fake invites because the devs derped a bit and sent only the e-mails. Maybe that's the reason of you having to fill that survey.
Oh my god! Okay, so it turns out that invite was fake. I just got an email apologizing for the accidental beta invite to me. But then they said, as an apology for the mistake, they're going to let me into the beta anyways!
Oh my god! Okay, so it turns out that invite was fake. I just got an email apologizing for the accidental beta invite to me. But then they said, as an apology for the mistake, they're going to let me into the beta anyways!
If I have read correctly on the Mwo Forums, you can have a discussion if it's only with other Beta players, which means that you've got to do that in the private section of a forum where only Beta Testers can access.
Oh my god! Okay, so it turns out that invite was fake. I just got an email apologizing for the accidental beta invite to me. But then they said, as an apology for the mistake, they're going to let me into the beta anyways!
This happened to me as well. I'm hoping to spend some time playing it tomorrow.
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