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Old 12-15-2011, 11:43 AM   Top  -  End  -  #31
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I'm away from books and notes until tonight, but will hope to have the IC up then. Thanks, all, and sorry for the delay.
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Old 12-17-2011, 07:41 PM   Top  -  End  -  #32
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Sorry for the delay, folks. IC thread is here.
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Old 12-17-2011, 07:59 PM   Top  -  End  -  #33
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Huzzah! Let's party! Necromancy party is the best party.
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Old 12-17-2011, 11:02 PM   Top  -  End  -  #34
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Saaayyyy, OMG PONIES, how ARE we capable of living the way we do? Parents leave us a small fortune or something?

Let's just go with that. Unless I sell my sculptures or something.
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Old 12-17-2011, 11:06 PM   Top  -  End  -  #35
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Saaayyyy, OMG PONIES, how ARE we capable of living the way we do? Parents leave us a small fortune or something?

Let's just go with that. Unless I sell my sculptures or something.
Craft and Perform, if you pick the right ones, can get you waaaaaay more money than killing things. That's feasible.
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Old 12-17-2011, 11:07 PM   Top  -  End  -  #36
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Craft and Perform, if you pick the right ones, can get you waaaaaay more money than killing things. That's feasible.
Well, I have profession, not Craft. Good enough.

Lesson: in fantasy games, you CAN get a career with an art degree
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Old 12-18-2011, 01:00 PM   Top  -  End  -  #37
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Lesson: in fantasy games, you CAN get a career with an art degree
Maybe that's why they're called "fantasy".

Also, unless you go for a ladderhack or something, killing things is far more lucrative.
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Old 12-18-2011, 01:03 PM   Top  -  End  -  #38
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Maybe that's why they're called "fantasy".

Also, unless you go for a ladderhack or something, killing things is far more lucrative.
Hurray! I love the fact that the cornerstone of the world's economy is getting paid to kill things.
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Old 12-18-2011, 02:39 PM   Top  -  End  -  #39
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Hey PONIES, you still alive? Only one not to post yet.
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Old 12-18-2011, 04:11 PM   Top  -  End  -  #41
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The standard issue lightbringers' sword
Ooh, did you grab one of those handy-dandy special weapons from SGoS?
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Old 12-18-2011, 05:07 PM   Top  -  End  -  #42
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Ooh, did you grab one of those handy-dandy special weapons from SGoS?
I don't think so. I just took an Undead Bane Greatsword + his personal weapon crystals.
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Old 12-18-2011, 11:03 PM   Top  -  End  -  #43
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Aid Another on his Diplomacy, DC 10: (1d20+5)[17]

Hopefully that'll help him convince the guy to stay for a bit of a chat.
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Old 12-19-2011, 06:50 AM   Top  -  End  -  #44
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If there is one thing Thoven does better than killing undead, it is likely diplomacy:

Taking 10

10+16=26

Add another +2 if our friend with the letter is a good guy.
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Old 12-19-2011, 09:45 AM   Top  -  End  -  #45
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I'll leave it to your future judgment as to whether or not the messenger was a good guy.

And, um. That WAS the result of a good diplomacy roll.
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Old 12-19-2011, 03:45 PM   Top  -  End  -  #46
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Let us see if our messenger heeds his own advice.
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Old 12-19-2011, 05:29 PM   Top  -  End  -  #47
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Yeah, alive. Just a busy holiday weekend. Sauntering over to the IC thread now.

EDIT: And we start off with a rather unimpressive showing from our knowledge monkey. I've edited the results of my Knowledge checks into my post, rather than making another one. I hope that's okay.
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Old 12-21-2011, 12:22 PM   Top  -  End  -  #48
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Yeah, alive. Just a busy holiday weekend. Sauntering over to the IC thread now.

EDIT: And we start off with a rather unimpressive showing from our knowledge monkey. I've edited the results of my Knowledge checks into my post, rather than making another one. I hope that's okay.
Just as a question (because I'm rather fond of Truenamers myself), but how did you get the difference in bonus between your sheet (41) and the thread (45)? Additionally, your Hidden Truth checks should have been made with a bonus 5 higher than your Universal Aptitude check, since Universal Aptitude gives you a +5 to Truespeak.
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Old 12-21-2011, 02:04 PM   Top  -  End  -  #49
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Just as a question (because I'm rather fond of Truenamers myself), but how did you get the difference in bonus between your sheet (41) and the thread (45)?
That would be the +4 circumstance bonus for using an utterance on myself.

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Additionally, your Hidden Truth checks should have been made with a bonus 5 higher than your Universal Aptitude check, since Universal Aptitude gives you a +5 to Truespeak.
I did forget to apply the bonus from Universal Aptitude. Mea culpa.
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Old 12-21-2011, 02:11 PM   Top  -  End  -  #50
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Regardless, the check was good enough to get about the only nugget of information that I'll be prepared to give out at this point (he said, hoping to forestall further information checks for the time being...).
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Old 12-21-2011, 02:21 PM   Top  -  End  -  #51
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That would be the +4 circumstance bonus for using an utterance on myself.
Crud, I have to be the bearer of bad news.

While you do get a +4 bonus to speaking your own personal Truename (and therefore a +4 circumstance bonus when you use an utterance on yourself), when you speak a personal Truename- any personal Truename- the DC of the check is raised by 2, as per page 196 of the Tome of Magic. It equates out to a +2 bonus.

Yes, it's stupid, but it's RAW, and half the fun of playing a Truenamer is making it work as written.
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Regardless, the check was good enough to get about the only nugget of information that I'll be prepared to give out at this point (he said, hoping to forestall further information checks for the time being...).
So we can't just kill the messenger and then let me Speak With Dead?
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Old 12-21-2011, 03:02 PM   Top  -  End  -  #52
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Speaking with Dead /= Knowledge check. However, I will note that he has a head start, and only Thorven has a horse (although it's a very NICE horse).
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Old 12-21-2011, 04:04 PM   Top  -  End  -  #53
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I forgot I had a horse. LOL

Also, Thoven would need some serious convincing to kill the messenger, especially since he knows that the info the messenger gave is all the info he has. (I'm assuming his diplomacy roll was high enough for him to know he did the best of his ability.)

Though, yes, Thoven's horse could kick that spindly thing's aft to curb and back - Racing or otherwise
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His diplomacy roll was enough to make the messenger helpful (relatively speaking). Which is not necessarily (well, not remotely) the same thing as giving all of the information that he has.
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Sorry, should have worded it

"all the info he is willing to give" i.e. He wouldn't be any more friendly to us after us killing him AND THEN waking him from the dead.
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There's another half too?
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[Truespeak rule I always mess up]

Yes, it's stupid, but it's RAW, and half the fun of playing a Truenamer is making it work as written.
Ach, I always skip that part and think it's just part of the "save DCs are raised by 2." Seriously though, who uses utterances that require saves?

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The fact that, if you can crank your check enough, there's not much your DM can do to stop you...from speaking utterances that have relatively tame effects. Then you get to 20th level and start using gate at will.
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Old 12-22-2011, 02:48 PM   Top  -  End  -  #58
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The fact that, if you can crank your check enough, there's not much your DM can do to stop you...from speaking utterances that have relatively tame effects. Then you get to 20th level and start using gate at will.
Screw Conjunctive Gate. You can do awesome things well before that, my friend, and it all ignores SR (for a mere +5 DC):

1. Make something fall, period.
2. Make a spell effect end.
3. Make a 'Solid Fog' effect.
4. Make something fall, but faster.
5. Slow. No Save, no SR.
6. Decent direct damage.
7. That's pretty much it.
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Yeah, well, none of it is really as gamebreaking. Though I do like Rebuild Item...can I use it to patch up consumable magic items like potion tiles, allowing me to use them again?

And Spell Rebirth is pretty sweet as the only undispelling effect in the game. Naturally, you could just cast the darn thing again, but this wins on style points.
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Huzzah, it's my favorite part of meeting other characters- the "oh by the way I can turn into a gorilla three times a day" phase of getting to know people.
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