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Old 01-07-2012, 07:56 PM   Top  -  End  -  #1
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Alright then the OOC thread for a new New York.

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Aspect compalation: Please note all the aspects and comples were written by the respective player.
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[More important things will get added as the game goes on...]
Anyway chosen people post your character sheets then we can start running through city creation.
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Name: James A. Davis (Jimmy to his friends)
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Trouble: If I Don't Help, Who Will?

Phase One: Background:
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Phase 2:Rising Conflict (or less conflict, more coming into his own in this case)
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Phase 3: Blood Hunt
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I'll most likely end up using the forum roller for the time being, since I'm familiar enough with it.

And just to see how it goes, random dice roll: (4d3-8)[3][2][2][3](2)


I might still tweak a few things (mostly spellcraft specializations) while I have the chance.

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Don't we need to do guest stars still?
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Question: How, exactly, do Faerie Glamours and Veils work? Do I treat them as if they were normal evocations/whatever and call up power, etc and take mental stress for using them? If yes, could I tweak my skills a little to make it plausible to use them? The rules aren't terrifically clear on how they should be handled.


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If for some reason you hate invisible castle, or as frequently happens invisible castle dies, you can also use the forum dice roller;
Just type [rollv]4d3-8[/rollv] without the bold for 4 fudge dice and then you'll get
[roll0] Edit: Apparently terrible things happen to your rolls if you preview post using the forums dice roller.
Isn't it easier to just rollv Xd6 and say 1-2 is a -, 3-4 is a 0 and 5-6 is a +? Just as a suggestion, otherwise we have to roll each d3-2 seperately... or just roll a d3?

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Sorry about missing this thread earlier, folks.

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Question: How, exactly, do Faerie Glamours and Veils work? Do I treat them as if they were normal evocations/whatever and call up power, etc and take mental stress for using them? If yes, could I tweak my skills a little to make it plausible to use them? The rules aren't terrifically clear on how they should be handled.
I think it's simpler than spell use. The ability says you just create a veil as an action, then use discipline or deceit as the skill to oppose someone noticing the veil. From reading, it sounds to me like the ability is self contained; no other rolls needed, no mental stress, etc.
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I'm just going to use the forum roller, so I don't embarrass myself trying to figure out the other system.
Yeah, you did end up having to repost it a few times...

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Don't we need to do guest stars still?
The way the book recommends (on pg 24) to do it, is first make a significant chunk of the city, then make characters, then finish it up. So this is really back-pedaling. Couldn't really ask people to all help with the city, then I tell them if they get in.
That said, if you guys want to finish up phases and then make the city that works too. Or we can do both at the same time. Also if you guys are uninterested in making the city I can handle that too. I'm flexible in this area... so how does everyone want to do it? On to city creation or on to phases?
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Isn't it easier to just rollv Xd6 and say 1-2 is a -, 3-4 is a 0 and 5-6 is a +? Just as a suggestion, otherwise we have to roll each d3-2 seperately... or just roll a d3?
Umm... no you can just roll one pack of 4d3-8. Addition commutes so you if you roll d3-2 four times you can just add up all the -2's at the end.


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Rizhail is right. Its basically like two stunt that add trappings to deceit or discipline. No need to call up power, no stress, just roll either deceit or discipline (presumably the higher of the two), when opposing people trying to find the veil.

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We can do both at the same time, I think.
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I'm cool with both! And on that note, anyone interested in starring in Cassies little war with the white?
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I'd love to, but Eddie is just far too direct to deal with the White Court.

Anybody want to break him in to the supernatural side of things?
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I think that Allie would work for dealing with the Whites. Also, Jimmy should probably be Eddie's first contact with the strange, since he's the one who really knows the most about the supernatural side of the street.
I'm ok with doing both phase 4/5 and city creation at the same time.
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I think it's simpler than spell use. The ability says you just create a veil as an action, then use discipline or deceit as the skill to oppose someone noticing the veil. From reading, it sounds to me like the ability is self contained; no other rolls needed, no mental stress, etc.
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Rizhail is right. Its basically like two stunt that add trappings to deceit or discipline. No need to call up power, no stress, just roll either deceit or discipline (presumably the higher of the two), when opposing people trying to find the veil.

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Okay, thanks. Thought it was something like that, but just wanted to be sure, because it's one of those things that -could- be abused. "I create a perfect veil and make it last forever! Muahahaha! And Glamour myself to look like a tree in case they see through the veil!"

Obviously I wouldn't do that, but...

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I'd love to, but Eddie is just far too direct to deal with the White Court.

Anybody want to break him in to the supernatural side of things?
Jane could be a good character for that. Bursting through out of the Nevernever with a pack of Hobbes on her heels is a fairly direct introduction. Or, possibly, following them through a portal, because she tricked them into making one, thinking she'd already gone through.

For what use it is; Jane's approach to dealing with supernatural nasties hurting people is very much in the kick-down-the-door school of thought. Subtlety is for when no-one's being hurt right now.


I'm fine doing city creation and finishing the phases together.

EDIT: Anyone interested in helping a poor, bewildered woman 6 years out of her time zone, holding a sword and dressed in armour, without a passport or identification actually get back home?

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I'm good helping whoever. Maybe Cassie for Allie's phase 4 and Jane or Eddie for 5?
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Anything requiring someone in just the right place at just the right time is something Cassie excels at, that and lore mastery stuff
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I'm all for finishing up characters while ironing out the city.

Jimmy can handle a number of story elements, as befits a wizard. He acts as a sort of supernatural handyman, solving magic related issues while occasionally taking out nasty things, so he could potentially fit anywhere. I could see him honestly fitting into anyone's story.


However, I'd like to offer a suggestion:

In 'Your Story', it suggests the option of randomly assigning each player the stories their characters will cross for their fourth and fifth phases. As a fan of random character creation from Dark heresy, I know that a lot of fun and unexpected things can come from this sort of thing, so I decided to whip up random character story assignments. And if a character seems like s/he wouldn't quite fit the situation of another character's third phase, remember that a character can help and/or complicate another character's story.

Obviously, this is completely up to the group whether to go with the random idea or go with feeling out how each character might fit another's story, or any other method someone might come up with, but I feel it's worth throwing out there.

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So, let me know what ya'll think of letting randomness decide some things. Even with a bit of an error in the method.

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I like the randomness, if for nothing else than getting this started faster. So I'd be helping Cassie with her White Court feud first, then after the first guest spot I'd help James?
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If we go with the above randomness, then yes. Your phase 4 would be playing a supporting role in Cassie's phase 3, and your phase 5 would be a role in my phase 3.

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City Creation
So city themes/threats, I do believe they comprise the starting point of city creation. So one of the major themes (threat?) I was planning for was something like "Quests for Power". The Fomor obviously, human practitioners and other clued in people want the power to be safe, factions that are currently marginalized in New York want to get a stronger foothold ect. Minor groups want to become bigger players (like say the sorcerer-king?)
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Works for me.

Thinking about New York, how about "The Streets are Paved in Broken Dreams" for another City Aspect? I mean, New York has always been seen as this wonderful mythic place of opportunity; the reality...not so much.

Also, my fourth phase, with your approval:

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Cassie's Phase 3
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Allie's Phase 4

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So now Jane needs to do her phase 4 and 5, then I can do my phase 5.
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I can agree with both of those for the main themes of NYC. "Quests for Power" sets up the potential for conflict nicely, while "The Streets are Paved with Broken Dreams" gives us a good goal to work toward as a group (namely, fixing the 'broken' part, at least for as many folks as we can).

I'd like to throw out an idea for a purely Threat aspect, along with one or two faces for the idea.

The threat: 'One More Missing Person is Just a Statistic'. In a city with a metropolitan population of nearly 20 million (and a ridiculous population density of 27,000 people per square mile), no one is going to really notice or care if a few more folks disappear, making the city the perfect hunting ground for supernatural predators. I swear it was mentioned, either in the rpg book or the novels, that the Red Court even had a major operation in NYC.

It also means the authorities aren't likely to be able to put as much effort into looking for people who disappeared without a trace. Like, say, a few minor talents snatched by the fomor, or some of the homeless folks falling prey to ghouls.

Example faces could include:
  • Nergal, a patriarch of one of the ghoul clans left reeling after the Red Court got Dresdened, who's trying to take advantage of the ensuing chaos
  • A sorcerer calling himself Kosef, who's been working up a small cult and seems to be getting into some pretty black magic, maybe even necromancy

What do ya'll think?
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I was going to suggest "The City that Never Sleeps" to show the constant low level conflict going on in the city. Something is always happening somewhere int he city, and everyone is trying to stake a claim.
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Hmm... I like it. It seems like a theme that crosses with Lamech's 'Quests for Power' idea, in that it describes the city as a hot bed for activity and conflict.

So, Theme: "The City That Never Sleeps". Aspect: Power Struggles at all levels. Faces: *insert locals who are trying to gain power and influence, both the good and bad guys*

That sound about right?
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Maybe something along the lines of King of the Hill, to show that everyone is trying to be the boss and it's changing hands rapidly? (This would be a possible aspect for the City That Never Sleeps theme.)
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Just to throw out a possible sequence of events for the backstories - feel free to correct/change/add anything, but I saw an interesting chain of meetings that might work together.

Jane meets James when his uncle shows him how to open portals to the Nevernever. To their surprise, they get a panic-stricken violet-eyed Changeling diving out of their portal, closely followed by a group of Hobbes. Naturally, two wizards deal with the equally surprised Hobbes with ease. Because Jane has nowhere to stay, and in fact can't legally stay or work in the U.S. due to her lack of passport, visa or money, and her complete inability to deal with people thanks to her years in Faerie, James and his grandfather offer to put her up for a while. When James leaves for New York, Jane goes with him, in the hope of finding someone who can provide her with a false passport so she can get back home. Shortly after they get there, James's phase 3 occurs, and Jane splats a third vampire, but doesn't see the other two, whereas James only sees two and splats one of them.

For whatever reason they don't share a flat, and Jane ends up sharing a flat with Cassie, if only for a few weeks, and gets drafted into being an intermediary between BlindMan and the White Court ("You can stay rent free if you can lend a hand..."). Meanwhile, James and Eddie get into contact somehow - maybe suggested by Cassie as someone who might know how to do it -, trying to get Jane's false passport, and Eddie and Jane are introduced somehow too.



With any luck, that may make sense. If it doesn't I apologise, I've had about three hours sleep in the last day or so.

I just threw that together based on the way all those characters knew one another, with a vague idea as to why they may have met.

Also, spoiler;

Jane does get her fake passport and does get back home to the UK before she takes up the pen and goes roving around the world in search of stories. This time with a real passport.
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Hmm... I like it. It seems like a theme that crosses with Lamech's 'Quests for Power' idea, in that it describes the city as a hot bed for activity and conflict.

So, Theme: "The City That Never Sleeps". Aspect: Power Struggles at all levels. Faces: *insert locals who are trying to gain power and influence, both the good and bad guys*

That sound about right?
Indeed that sounds excellent. The threat sounds pretty good too. I'll start looking over the various phases too. (If only to know whats going on.)

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The threat: 'One More Missing Person is Just a Statistic'. In a city with a metropolitan population of nearly 20 million (and a ridiculous population density of 27,000 people per square mile), no one is going to really notice or care if a few more folks disappear, making the city the perfect hunting ground for supernatural predators. I swear it was mentioned, either in the rpg book or the novels, that the Red Court even had a major operation in NYC.

It also means the authorities aren't likely to be able to put as much effort into looking for people who disappeared without a trace. Like, say, a few minor talents snatched by the fomor, or some of the homeless folks falling prey to ghouls.

Example faces could include:
  • Nergal, a patriarch of one of the ghoul clans left reeling after the Red Court got Dresdened, who's trying to take advantage of the ensuing chaos
  • A sorcerer calling himself Kosef, who's been working up a small cult and seems to be getting into some pretty black magic, maybe even necromancy

What do ya'll think?
I note that the sorcerer could be the sorcerer-king Allie's phase three too assuming he doesn't die.

Also, the two guest stars so far seem good.
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Your story idea makes sense to me, Aneurin. So, James' phase 4 would be helping Jane out for a while after she arrives from Faerie, while Jane's would be saving James' from an extra threat. I just need to write up the phase, then.

I already have an idea for the aspect: Good Friends with Jane Goodway. Invokes for when the characters work together, and for when James is doing something related to the sidhe, and potential compels include taking risky actions to help her out, or following along if she has a crazy plan. And yes, I realize this means I'm practically handing you an ability to compel my character. Hopefully hilarity and/or drama will ensue.

@Lamech, I worked out my enchanted items, if you'd like to take a look at them and approve/reject them.

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Although, I do have a question: how does a block or armor item work since they cannot be on constantly? It wouldn't make sense for them to have to be activated on the user's turn (otherwise it will be impossible to mimic things like Harry's duster). Can it be activated as a free action, similar/in addition to making a defensive skill roll? Or is there something I'm missing?
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Old 01-12-2012, 07:25 PM   Top  -  End  -  #29
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Your story idea makes sense to me, Aneurin. So, James' phase 4 would be helping Jane out for a while after she arrives from Faerie, while Jane's would be saving James' from an extra threat. I just need to write up the phase, then.

I already have an idea for the aspect: Good Friends with Jane Goodway. Invokes for when the characters work together, and for when James is doing something related to the sidhe, and potential compels include taking risky actions to help her out, or following along if she has a crazy plan. And yes, I realize this means I'm practically handing you an ability to compel my character. Hopefully hilarity and/or drama will ensue.

@Lamech, I worked out my enchanted items, if you'd like to take a look at them and approve/reject them.

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Although, I do have a question: how does a block or armor item work since they cannot be on constantly? It wouldn't make sense for them to have to be activated on the user's turn (otherwise it will be impossible to mimic things like Harry's duster). Can it be activated as a free action, similar/in addition to making a defensive skill roll? Or is there something I'm missing?
Okay, this must not have been clear when I was explaining the changes to enchanted items: You still only get one base use, but if you add extra enchanted item slots those each give +2 uses.
On the haste ring, I don't think that preforming a simple action means that you get a whole scenes worth of simple actions, but that it preforms one simple action; hence, the haste ring has a duration of one exchange. (Although you could increase it by putting shifts to duration) Finally defensive items don't take an action to use, they are simply part of your defense.
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Old 01-12-2012, 09:57 PM   Top  -  End  -  #30
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The extra uses on my items come from my Thaumaturgy specialization (crafting(frequency+1)). All items I make have one extra use base, without using an extra slot (that includes potions; they have two uses). The crafting specialization stuff is buried on the bottom left of page 280 in the rulebook (I was able to get hold of a release copy, so I'm on the same page as ya'll now. Pun not intended. >.<)

For the ring, I looked back over that section and you're right; I didn't read over it in depth enough to make sure I got it all correct. Which is also how I missed the blurb that says that defensive items are just part of your defense with no action needed to activate.

The ring will act more like an escape/epic dodge item then. Still an excellent item. Though if I decide to add duration, should I go for a 1 power spent per extra exchange duration, or play with the time chart on page 315, going up one time step per 1 complexity added to the spell? I ask because the spell is based on thaumaturgy, and the duration on such spells (and how to extend it) is still somewhat confusing to a first time player.
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