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Old 01-20-2012, 11:18 PM   Top  -  End  -  #91
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MnM2e or 3e would work for Bleach, it works for just about anything. Bankai and Shikai is simply raising your character to another PL for a short period of time.
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Old 01-20-2012, 11:50 PM   Top  -  End  -  #92
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MnM2e or 3e would work for Bleach, it works for just about anything. Bankai and Shikai is simply raising your character to another PL for a short period of time.
I don't remember, PL is like a cap on your abilities right? In HERO you can model Shikai/Bankai/Hollow Mask/Resurreccion/etc. by building the appropriate powers and applying some limitations, such as Focus (you need your Zanpakuto), Duration (you can only use it for so long), Endurance (it tires you), possibly others. For anyone unfamiliar with HERO limitations are modifiers that make a power weaker in some way but also make it cost less character points.

Alternatively, they could be applications of the Aid power with the Self-Only limitation (Aid is a power that increases your stats) along with some powers that are linked to the Aid (that is, can only be used when the Aid is active).
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Old 01-21-2012, 12:59 PM   Top  -  End  -  #93
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I don't remember, PL is like a cap on your abilities right? In HERO you can model Shikai/Bankai/Hollow Mask/Resurreccion/etc. by building the appropriate powers and applying some limitations, such as Focus (you need your Zanpakuto), Duration (you can only use it for so long), Endurance (it tires you), possibly others. For anyone unfamiliar with HERO limitations are modifiers that make a power weaker in some way but also make it cost less character points.

Alternatively, they could be applications of the Aid power with the Self-Only limitation (Aid is a power that increases your stats) along with some powers that are linked to the Aid (that is, can only be used when the Aid is active).
This HERO system sounds quite interesting. How might one go about finding the rules?
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Old 01-21-2012, 03:41 PM   Top  -  End  -  #94
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This HERO system sounds quite interesting. How might one go about finding the rules?
You mean purchase? The latest edition is 6th, and can be found here; unfortunately I don't think there is a free "preview" of the rules as with GURPS Lite. If you are referring to less than legal means, we can't discuss that here, but it wouldn't be that hard to find.
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Old 01-21-2012, 03:58 PM   Top  -  End  -  #95
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Yeah, hero system would totally work, rather well when it comes down to it. At least, the edition I have would. Not sure how much they've changed, but I have...5th, I think? And it would totally work.
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Old 01-21-2012, 06:24 PM   Top  -  End  -  #96
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Yeah, hero system would totally work, rather well when it comes down to it. At least, the edition I have would. Not sure how much they've changed, but I have...5th, I think? And it would totally work.
5th and 6th are pretty close, from the HERO Games website:
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A: The fundamentals of the game - the type of dice used and how they're used, Character Points, the SPD Chart, and so on - haven't changed. The two "biggest" changes in most gamers' eyes are (a) the elimination of the "hex" (everything's just measured in meters now, making the game easier to learn and play), and (b) the "decoupling" of Figured Characteristics (PD, ED, SPD, and the like all still exist, but they don't derive from the "Primary" Characteristics at all). But beyond that there are lots of minor tweaks to costs and values, changes to several Powers, new Powers and Power Modifiers, and so on.
Both could be used for Bleach. In fact, if anyone wants to start a forum game I'd be willing to play.
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Old 01-31-2012, 08:38 PM   Top  -  End  -  #97
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I decided to stat out Ichigo in HERO System 6th Edition just to see how it would work, and then I decided to post the results here. Note that I stated him as he was before Final Getsuga. By and large the only difficult thing was Bankai/Hollowfication. There are many ways to simulate those, so for Bankai I settled on a variant of Only in Alternate Identity while for Hollowfication I chose to use Multiform (explanation in a bit). Without further ado, HERO System Ichigo:
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Alright, there it is. It isn't perfect, but it was a quick and dirty conversion. Generally conversions are harder than making your own character anyways. Hope somebody found that interesting .
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Old 01-31-2012, 09:47 PM   Top  -  End  -  #98
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I did. It really makes me want to run a Hero game in the Bleach verse, though there are just so many questions to answer before I could really do it.
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I did. It really makes me want to run a Hero game in the Bleach verse, though there are just so many questions to answer before I could really do it.
What kind of questions do you have? I'll help if I can.
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Old 02-01-2012, 01:53 AM   Top  -  End  -  #100
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Less with regards to how to do stuff with the rules(though those may pop up as well), but with issues deciding what the plot should be, when it's taking place. Who from the Series is going to be active, and who isn't.
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Old 02-01-2012, 02:12 AM   Top  -  End  -  #101
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Less with regards to how to do stuff with the rules(though those may pop up as well), but with issues deciding what the plot should be, when it's taking place. Who from the Series is going to be active, and who isn't.
If it were me, I'd go with a parallel universe with completely new characters but largely the same setting. Otherwise you'd have to deal with the PCs knowing things they should't, not to mention it is easier to devise your own plot than to decide how to diverge from the main one. You could have expies or parallel universe versions of characters if you wanted.

Alternatively, set it in the distant past. You'd still have a couple of the older characters and some ancestors of some of the characters but you'd have much more freedom. Also I think Feudal Japan would be more fun than Modern Japan if you did a lot of real world adventuring, unless you went for an Urban Fantasy style I guess. If you wanted to deviate from the source material you could include additional supernatural beings like Kitsune, Neko-mata, and Oni.
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Old 02-01-2012, 07:33 AM   Top  -  End  -  #102
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For examples, you can look at this game I started, or the older freeform Bleach games in these boards. It's bound to give you some ideas.

EDIT: Also, Nekomata, Kitsune and Oni don't need deviations from canon creatures, as all of them can be Shinigami or Hollows themed after such mythological creatures.
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Apparently, Shonen Jump has had small snippets and interviews with Kubo for material throughout the 3 week hiatus, about the state of things as they are now in the story, and hints on what the next arc is going to be like and hints to what it will contain. I wont go into specifics, but you can read up on it here. As of this post, only weeks 1 and 2 have been printed, but week 3 will probably be out within the next day or two.
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the entire affair makes me want to hurt him.

setting aside that arrancar as allies makes no sense (except for nel). his attitude annoys me to no end.
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Old 02-02-2012, 06:42 AM   Top  -  End  -  #105
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the entire affair makes me want to hurt him.

setting aside that arrancar as allies makes no sense (except for nel). his attitude annoys me to no end.
Well, he did only say the likelyhood of certain arrancars reapearing still doesn't make it certain, and Nel is the only one he really dwelled on that fact, though Grimmjow is also a candidate, so hopefully he doesn't troll this time.
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Things I like about the interview:

Apparently, Unohana will actually fight with her zanpakuto at some point.

Renji's bankai has changed in some way.

Shunsui will finally go bankai.

Based on the interview, I think that Stark, Harribel, Nel, Nnoitra, Grimmjow, and Zommari are somehow alive. Stark, Nnoitra, and Zommari are stated as "extremely unlikely" to reappear, not just given a blank where the other arrancar are dead. Harribel is an "unlikely" and Nel and Grimmjow are "very likely."

Things I don't like:

Apparently the last arc was supposed to be about Chad.

... what?
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Apparently the last arc was supposed to be about Chad.

... what?
o... k...

Weel for one thing, he did explain how Chad's (and Orihime's) powers work, but htis looks almost liek tharc Chad starred in least...
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Apparently, Unohana will actually fight with her zanpakuto at some point.
And she will "unravel her braid".
...What? A bloke can't think she's a mite attractive?


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Things I don't like:

Apparently the last arc was supposed to be about Chad.

... what?
well it sort of was. he figured out the source of his power (though how his skin has a different soul from the rest of him...), the whole arc is dependent on him making the connection with the fullbringers, etc.

shunsui's bankai (im sucha LoL addict i wrote ult the first time around ) is some reality warping thing im sure.
ukitake's is the one i want to see.
that and yamamoto
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Things I like about the interview:

Apparently, Unohana will actually fight with her zanpakuto at some point.

Renji's bankai has changed in some way.

Shunsui will finally go bankai.

Based on the interview, I think that Stark, Harribel, Nel, Nnoitra, Grimmjow, and Zommari are somehow alive. Stark, Nnoitra, and Zommari are stated as "extremely unlikely" to reappear, not just given a blank where the other arrancar are dead. Harribel is an "unlikely" and Nel and Grimmjow are "very likely."

Things I don't like:

Apparently the last arc was supposed to be about Chad.

... what?
I think those were just guesses from the editor.
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Based on the interview, I think that Stark, Harribel, Nel, Nnoitra, Grimmjow, and Zommari are somehow alive. Stark, Nnoitra, and Zommari are stated as "extremely unlikely" to reappear, not just given a blank where the other arrancar are dead. Harribel is an "unlikely" and Nel and Grimmjow are "very likely."
Nel wasn't put in a "no way she could survive that" situation in her last appearance AFAIK, and Grimmjow is too much fangirlbait to stay down.
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...What? A bloke can't think she's a mite attractive?
I like her braid...
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Couldn't some of them re-appear in Hell or something? Like those other 2 did.
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I'm one of those losers who doesn't read the manga but rather enjoys the anime when convenient. What I'd like to know from you manga readers is this: Which Ichigo has come back? Is it the determined one who doesn't care about the odds? Or is it the godly powerful one who is paralyzed by fear and doubt? The first one is the guy that made this story interesting, and for years now I've only really seen him in the filler arcs the anime adds.

If he's back to his original "I want to win!" self, then this whole death-and-return-of-super-Ichigo thing might just be worth it.
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I'm one of those losers who doesn't read the manga but rather enjoys the anime when convenient. What I'd like to know from you manga readers is this: Which Ichigo has come back? Is it the determined one who doesn't care about the odds? Or is it the godly powerful one who is paralyzed by fear and doubt? The first one is the guy that made this story interesting, and for years now I've only really seen him in the filler arcs the anime adds.

If he's back to his original "I want to win!" self, then this whole death-and-return-of-super-Ichigo thing might just be worth it.
Judging from his curbstomp battle with Kuugo, I'd say "determined and godly powerful." Pretty much exactly as he was right after learning Mugetsu. He definitely didn't break a sweat, and the captains were so assured of his victory they didn't even hang around to watch.

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Yeah, now that Ichigo has his sword back he's regained the balls he lost with his powers.
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Yeah, now that Ichigo has his sword back he's regained the balls he lost with his powers.
Some would say he never had any in the first place.

I'm putting my bet right now that Ichigo's mom was related in some way to one of the captains.
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Some would say he never had any in the first place.

I'm putting my bet right now that Ichigo's mom was related in some way to one of the captains.
See, now all I can think of is Shunsui as a pervy uncle, Ukitake as the uncle who gives you way too many christmas presents and remembers all your birthdays, Unohana as the aunt who always brings the good homemade stuff to Thanksgiving, and Yamamoto as the grandfather who will glare at you very hard if you don't start using a coaster this very minute young man.
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See, now all I can think of is Shunsui as a pervy uncle, Ukitake as the uncle who gives you way too many christmas presents and remembers all your birthdays, Unohana as the aunt who always brings the good homemade stuff to Thanksgiving, and Yamamoto as the grandfather who will glare at you very hard if you don't start using a coaster this very minute young man.
I want to watch/read this far more than I want to watch/read Bleach. Because that sounds awesome and hilarious.
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Old 02-03-2012, 03:23 PM   Top  -  End  -  #120
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Default Re: Bleach V: Well that was a waste of time (Fullbring? What's that?)

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