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Dippable levels in Pathfinder
Post #1: Base Classes
Post #2: Prestige Classes
Post #3: Dip Helping Feats & Common Abilities & Sources

For the sake of this guide, a "dip" constitutes 1-to-3 levels taken in a class for the sake of gaining abilities. Abilities gained at level 4 of a class will only be listed if they are super-awesome-mega-worth-it!
Abilities gained at level 5 are right out.
Only 'generally' useful abilities will be mentioned. For example, many people dip Fighter for the Feats. No one dips Druid just to get an Animal Companion.


The following is a list of abilities/attributes/things/stuff that will NOT be listed, under the assumption that many classes have equivalents:
HP
Bab
Saves
Skills
Skill Points
Weapon/Armor Proficiencies
An exception will be made for any Exotic Weapon prof., Heavy Armor, and Tower Shields
Small bonuses will mostly be ignored, such as "+1 to Will saves vs. Fear". Only larger/widely useful bonuses will be listed.
1/day (or less) use abilities will be ignored, unless they are very useful.

The format is as follows:

[Class]
*spoiler tag*
1) [notable ability gained with 1 level]
3) [notable ability gained with 3 levels]
#S) [notable ability gained with # levels of (Special), Bloodline/Mystery/Order/etc..]
#A) [notable ability gained with # levels of (Archetype) of class]

[ability] > [briefly explains what it does]

Alchemist
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Antipaladin
The Antipaladin is an alternate base class to the Paladin, it is similar enough that for this guides purposes it will be treated as an Archetype of the Paladin, and can be found in the Paladin section.

Barbarian
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Bard
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Cavalier
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Cleric
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Domains
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Druid
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Fighter
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Gunslinger
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Inquisitor
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Magus
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Monk
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Ninja
The Ninja is an alternate base class to the Rogue, it is similar enough that for this guides purposes it will be treated as an Archetype of the Rogue, and can be found in the Rogue section.

Oracle
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Oracle Revelations
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(Anti)Paladin
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Ranger
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Rogue
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Samurai
The Samurai is an alternate base class to the Cavalier, it is similar enough that for this guides purposes it will be treated as an Archetype of the Cavalier, and can be found in the Cavalier section.

Sorcerer
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Sorcerer Bloodlines
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Summoner
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Witch
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Wizard
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Prestige Classes


Text in parenthesis after the PrC name is a quick summary. For example, "Arcane Archer (Archer/Mage hybrid)". "Mage" will be used to refer to Arcane, "Healer" will be used to refer to Divine. Also lists Basic stats for easy reference (HD/Skills/Bab/Casting (if any)).
Each entry will start with the total number of levels in the PrC, and the earliest level you could enter the class (barring shenanigans of course).
Reqs: has notable Requirements for entry. Minor requirements and "flavor" requirements will be ignored.
Abilities will follow the same format as the Base Class section.

Agent of the Grave (Necromancer) d8, 4S, 1/2 Bab, 4/5 Any Caster
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Aldori Swordlord (Dueling/Intimidate fighter) d10, 2S, Full Bab
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Arcane Archer (Archer/Mage hybrid) d10, 4S, Full Bab, 7/10 Arcane
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Arclord of Nex (Arcane Crafter?) d6, 2S, 1/2 Bab, 10/10 Arcane
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Arcane Trickster (Rogue/Mage hybrid) d6, 4S, 1/2 Bab, 10/10 Arcane
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Aspis Agent (Trap/Dungeon something...) d8, 4S, 3/4 Bab
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Assassin (Rogue that likes killing people) d8, 4S, 3/4 Bab
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Balanced Scale of Abadar (Divine, Treasure Obsessed) d6, 2S, 1/2 Bab, 5/6 Divine
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Battle Herald (Cavalier/Bard hybrid) d10, 4S, Full Bab
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Bellflower Tiller (Team-focus rogue) d8, 6S, 3/4 Bab
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Blackfire Adept () d6, 4S, 1/2 Bab, 7/10 Any Caster
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Bloatmage (Blood Mage) d6, 2S, 1/2 Bab, 10/10 Arcane
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Brightness Seeker (Seeks Enlightenment) d8, 4S, 3/4 Bab
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Brother of the Seal (Monk) d8, 4S, 3/4 Bab
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Champion of Irori (Monk/Paladin hybrid) d8, 4S, Full Bab
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Chevalier (Knight) d10, 4S, Full Bab
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Cyphermage (Knowledge/Scroll Mage) d6, 4S, 1/2 Bab, Full Arcane
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Daggermark Poisoner (Poison-focused rogue) d8, 4S, 3/4 Bab
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Daivrat (Genie Friend) d6, 2S, 1/2 Bab, 9/10 Any Caster
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Dawnflower Dissident () d8, 2S, 3/4 Bab, 10/10 Divine
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Demoniac (Demon Worshiper) d8, 2S, 3/4 Bab, 9/10 Any Caster (does not "need" casting to enter)
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Diabolist (Devil Worshiper) d6, 2S, 1/2 Bab, Full Casting (does not "need" casting to enter)
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Divine Scion (Deity's Chosen One) d8, 2S, 3/4 Bab, Full Divine
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Dragon Disciple (Dragon Mage) d12, 2S, 3/4 Bab, 7/10 Arcane
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Duelist (Light Weapon/Mobility Warrior) d10, 4S, Full Bab
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Eldritch Knight (Fighter/Mage hybrid) d10, 2S, Full Bab, 9/10 Arcane
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Genie Binder (uh...Caster who...Binds...Genies....) d6, 2S, 1/2 Bab, Full Casting
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Golden Legionnaire () d10, 2S, Full Bab
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Gray Gardener (Inquititor PrC // Rogue/Healer hybrid) d8, 6S, 3/4 Bab, 7/10 Divine
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Green Faith Acolyte (Druid-ish PrC) d8, 4S, 3/4 Bab, 10/10 Divine
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Halfling Opportunist (Rogue-like Risk Taker) d8, 6S, 3/4 Bab
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Harrower (Deck of Cards Divination Caster) d6, 2S, 1/2 Bab, Full Any Caster
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Hellknight (Anti-Chaos Paladin) d10, 2S, Full Bab
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Hellknight Signifier (Warrior/Caster hybrid) d8, 2S, 3/4 Bab, 10/10 Any Casting
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Holy Vindicator (Paladin minus Alignment) d10, 2S, Full Bab, 3/4 Divine Casting
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Horizon Walker (Terrain Master/Traveler) d10, 6S, Full Bab
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Inheritor's Crusader (Prestige Paladin) d10, 2S, Full Bab, Full Casting (Cleric or Paladin only)
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Inner Sea Pirate (would you believe....Pirate?) ?8d?, 6S, 3/4 Bab (HD not listed, assuming 'rogue' HD)
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Justicar (Embodiment of the Law) d8, 4S, Full Bab
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Knight of Ozem (Anti-Undead knight) d10, 4S, Full Bab
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Lantern Bearer (Anti-Darkness) d10, 4S, Full Bab
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Liberator (Anti-Slavery Warrior) d10, 2S, Full Bab
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Lion Blade (Bardic Assassin in Plain Sight) d8, 6S, 3/4 Bab
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Living Monolith (Stoneblessed Warrior) d8, 2S, Full Bab
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Low Templar (Crusader with Looser Morals) d10, 2S, Full Bab
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Loremaster (Knowledge/Divination Caster) d6, 4S, 1/2 Bab, Full Casting
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Magaambyan Arcanist (Arch-Wizard) d6, 2S, 1/2 Bab, 10/10 Arcane
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Mammoth Rider (Rider of Big Creature) d12, 4S, Full Bab
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Master Chymist (Mutagen Focused Alchemist) d10, 2S, Full Bab, 7/10 Extracts
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Master Spy (Deception Rogue) d8, 6S, 3/4 Bab
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Mystic Theurge (Arcane/Divine hybrid) d6, 2S, 1/2 Bab, Full Arcane AND Divine Casting
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Nature Warden (Harmony with Nature) d8, 4S, 3/4 Bab, 7/10 Divine Casting
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Noble Scion (Aristocrat) d8, 6S, 3/4 Bab
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Pain Taster (Pain Obsessed Warrior) d10, 2S, Full Bab
Spoiler


Pathfinder Chronicler (Explorer of Knowledge) d8, 8S, 3/4 Bab
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Pathfinder Delver (Adventure Seeker) d8, 8S, 3/4 Bab
Spoiler


Pathfinder Savant (Magic Knowledge Seeker) d6, 2S, 1/2 Bab, 6/7 Any Casting
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Pit Fighter (Performance Combat Expert) d10, 2S, Full Bab
Spoiler


Prophet of Kalistrade () d8, 4S, 3/4 Bab, Class Unique Casting (Cha-Based, max 4th level spells)
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Rage Prophet (Barbarian/Oracle hybrid) d10, 4S, 3/4 Bab, 7/10 Divine casting
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Razmiran Priest (Mage with Divine powers) d8, 4S, 3/4 Bab, 7/10 Arcane
Spoiler


Red Mantis Assassin (Rogue w/Minor Spells) d8, 6S, 3/4 Bab, Class Unique Casting (Cha-Based, max 4th level spells)
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Riftwarden (Planar Protector) d8, 4S, 3/4 Bab, 7/10 Any Caster
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Shadowdancer (Stealth/Sneaky Rogue) d8, 6S, 3/4 Bab
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Shackles Pirate (would you believe....Pirate?) d8, 8S, 3/4 Bab
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Shieldmarshal (Gunslinging Lawman) d10, 4S, Full Bab
Spoiler


Skyseeker () d10, 4S, Full Bab, 7/10 Divine
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Sleepless Detective (Detective) d8, 4S, 3/4 Bab
Spoiler


Souldrinker d6, 2S, 1/2 Bab, 8/10 Any Casting (does not "need" casting to enter)
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Spherewalker (Far Traveler, Caster) d8, 4S, 3/4 Bab, Full Any Casting (does not "need" casting to enter)
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Stalwart Defender (Defensive "Rager") d12, 2S, Full Bab
Spoiler


Steel Falcon (Anti-Slavery Military) d10, 4S, Full Bab
Spoiler


Storm Kindler (Storm Caster) d8, 4S, 3/4 Bab, 7/10 Any Caster
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Student of War (Int/Knowledge Warrior) d10, 6S, Full Bab
Spoiler


Tattooed Mystic (Tattoo Caster) d6, 2S, 1/2 Bab, 7/10 Any Caster
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Umbral Court Agent (Darkness Caster) d8, 4S, 3/4 Bab, 7/10 Any Caster
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Veiled Illusionist (Illusionist Caster) d6, 2S, 1/2 Bab, 10/10 Any Caster
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Winter Witch (Cold-focused Witch) d6, 2S, 1/2 Bab, 9/10 Witch casting
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Dip-Helper Feats
These are feats that either make a dip more powerful, minimize losses for going outside your main class, or just require multiple classes to even qualify for the feat.
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Common Ability Quick Reference
Bardic Knowledge (bonus on Knowledge checks, can use untrained Knowledges)
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Bonus Feats (fixed)
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Bonus Feats (choice)
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Casting (PrC's that advance casting)
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Domain
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Initiative
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Sneak Attack (+d6 on flank)
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Trapfinding (anything with "Disarm Magical Traps")
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Uncanny Dodge
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Sources: Sources for Archetypes will not be listed due to space reasons. Feel free to reference the PFSRD, or post a reply to this thread.

Core:
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Advanced Players Guide:
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Ultimate Magic:
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Ultimate Combat:
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Other:
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Barbarian rage features are also character-level-dependant, not Barbarian-level-dependant. So Barbarian2 into fighter3 then barbarian 4 into Cavalier1 then barbarian 6 nets you Pounce and a NA bonus while raging, then you continue down Cavalier.
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Interesting to know about Barbarians, that.

Nifty idea you had grarrg. Nice to look over.
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Interesting to know about Barbarians, that.

Nifty idea you had grarrg. Nice to look over.
Not just true of Barbarians, lots of classes just check level, not class level, you just have to look at the wording.
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Not just true of Barbarians, lots of classes just check level, not class level, you just have to look at the wording.
As for whether "Character level, not Class level" is intentional or not is up to debate. The folks at Paizo have botched before.....


Speaking of debating... I have 3 posts to work with, and I'm trying to decide if the guide should go

Base Class
Prestige Class
Common Abilities

Or

Common Abilities
Base Class
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Either way the Common Abilities section will be brief and refer you to the in depth sections.

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As for whether its intentional or not is up to debate...
I don't put much stock into Paizo's ability to proofread their own material these days...
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Not just true of Barbarians, lots of classes just check level, not class level, you just have to look at the wording.
Hmm, too bad this isn't enough to counteract Paizo's rabid anti-multiclassing policy... or at least I haven't heard of any combos worthwhile enough to do so yet...
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Hmm, too bad this isn't enough to counteract Paizo's rabid anti-multiclassing policy... or at least I haven't heard of any combos worthwhile enough to do so yet...
I'm not sure what's anti-multiclassing, other than prestige classes not giving full saves anymore. They don't have WotC's multiclass XP penalty, for one, the Favored Class benefit rewards you for staying in class, with Half-Elves being able to do 2 classes and maintaining the Favored Class bonus.
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Not just true of Barbarians, lots of classes just check level, not class level, you just have to look at the wording.
There's an implied "class" before "level" in any "level" that's talked about in a class description.

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Hmm, too bad this isn't enough to counteract Paizo's rabid anti-multiclassing policy... or at least I haven't heard of any combos worthwhile enough to do so yet...
Multiclassing isn't a horrible option, but it's true that there are less incentives to take dips, which was extremely common in 3.5. Certain classes however, still remain excellent choices, such as Paladin 2 (even better now, since 1 smite/day can actually make a huge difference) and Fighter 2.
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There's an implied "class" before "level" in any "level" that's talked about in a class description.

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If they'd roll that out in the Errata or FAQ as opposed to having to go forum roving, I'd be so much happier.
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I'm not sure what's anti-multiclassing, other than prestige classes not giving full saves anymore. They don't have WotC's multiclass XP penalty, for one, the Favored Class benefit rewards you for staying in class, with Half-Elves being able to do 2 classes and maintaining the Favored Class bonus.
Also,it looks like most Prestige Classes don't advance any base-class features except spellcasting - one of several reasons the Rage Prophet didn't look worth it. (No new Rage powers, no new Revelations...)
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I'm not sure what's anti-multiclassing, other than prestige classes not giving full saves anymore. They don't have WotC's multiclass XP penalty, for one, the Favored Class benefit rewards you for staying in class, with Half-Elves being able to do 2 classes and maintaining the Favored Class bonus.
Everything I've read on the subject from Paizo and from people discussing Paizo has been that they personally dislike the concept of multiclassing, which is part of why they developed the archetype system and have made rumblings about ceasing to make PrCs in favor of only archetypes from now on.

They actually put in a multiclassing penalty that wouldn't just be ignored for one, by disadvantaging you for not staying in the box in comparison with those who do.
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They actually put in a multiclassing penalty that wouldn't just be ignored for one, by disadvantaging you for not staying in the box in comparison with those who do.
This is actually a stealth smart way to discourage Multi-classing, by changing a negative into a positive.

3.5 gave you Penalties for taking more than 1 class, largely consisted of XP deduction.
PF rewards you for staying in the same class, partly through the revamped Favored Class bonus. You can ONLY get the Favored bonus(es) if you stay in the ONE class chosen.
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Ranger has trapper for level 1 Trapfinding
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I'm filling in the Quick reference as I do the main entries.
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About your writeup for the Magus:

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*Note: Spell Combat and Spellstrike specify a spell "from the Magus spell list". This either means any spell that a Magus could conceivably cast (abusable!), OR any spell that YOU could cast as a Magus (not worth dipping!). Check with your DM*
It's clearly the latter, this is also evident when you look at the Broad Study Arcana, which specifically allows you to bypass the restriction. And that discovery requires 6 Magus levels, making Magus a somewhat less attractive dip.
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About your writeup for the Magus:



It's clearly the latter, this is also evident when you look at the Broad Study Arcana, which specifically allows you to bypass the restriction. And that discovery requires 6 Magus levels, making Magus a somewhat less attractive dip.
I always interpreted that as you being able to cast, 'any spell on the magus' spell list.'
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Old 01-29-2012, 06:34 PM   Top  -  End  -  #21
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It's clearly the latter, this is also evident when you look at the Broad Study Arcana, which specifically allows you to bypass the restriction. And that discovery requires 6 Magus levels, making Magus a somewhat less attractive dip.
Still doesn't help.
Broad study "...while casting or using spells from the spell list of that class..."
It uses the same terminology, specifically calling out "spell list".

Part of the reason for this is that you may have a Scroll/Wand/etc... of a Magus spell and you should be allowed to use those with your Magus abilities.

The problem comes in when there are spells on your list that are also on another classes list. Broad Study is mainly for spells another class has that you DON'T have as a Magus.
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All base classes have been covered.
Please let me know if I missed anything.

Prestige... will be interesting...
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There is a feat that lets you use character level as druid level for animal companions if you have the expert trained feature (cavalier 4). This would give you a full-power mount for multy-classing into anything else. Might be nice for a mounted fighter/barb/monk/etc.

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The ninja dip is pretty significantly different from the rogue dip. Ki pool is a whole package of abilities and is potentially a very significant dip for nova ability since it can be used to get an extra attack on a full attack with a two-level dip.
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The ninja dip is pretty significantly different from the rogue dip. Ki pool is a whole package of abilities and is potentially a very significant dip for nova ability since it can be used to get an extra attack on a full attack with a two-level dip.
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Rogue Talent is a whole package of abilities and is potentially a very significant dip.

Revelation is a whole package of abilities and is potentially a very significant dip.

MONK is a whole package of ANYTHING EVER and IS a very significant dip.

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Elaborating on Ki Pool is the least of my worries.....

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Rebuttal:
Rogue Talent is a whole package of abilities and is potentially a very significant dip.

Revelation is a whole package of abilities and is potentially a very significant dip.

MONK is a whole package of ANYTHING EVER and IS a very significant dip.

tl;dr
Elaborating on Ki Pool is the least of my worries.....
I should clarify: I believe that this makes it more distinct from rogue than the classification as a rogue dip would indicate. I didn't mean "Ninja is more important than any other dip, ever!" The other subclasses change relatively little in the first few levels compared to their base class, whereas a two-level ninja dip brings a much different benefit to a build than a two-level rogue dip does.
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Are you going to write down all specifics? I mean as in dip in cleric can grant these domains and thus these bonusses?

Which is really a lot of work, but would be incredibly helpful.
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Are you going to write down all specifics? I mean as in dip in cleric can grant these domains and thus these bonusses?

Which is really a lot of work, but would be incredibly helpful.
Domains are (briefly) covered in the Quick Reference section.

And I am attempting to be as specific as necessary. This means two things;
Time constraints are one. For example, I'm not going to type out EVERY single Rogue Talent, it would bloat the guide, and waste my time. I will probably throw a link to the PFSRD Rogue Talent page though, and/or point out some widely useful ones (like using a Rogue Talent to take a Combat Feat). Also, this is the first pass through, I do plan to go back and 'tweak' some areas.

Secondly, I'm staying within my general guidelines for "dippy-ness".
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Small bonuses will mostly be ignored, such as "+1 to Will saves vs. Fear". Only larger/widely useful bonuses will be listed.
1/day (or less) use abilities will be ignored, unless they are very useful.
An example would be the vast majority of 1st level Domain Powers, most either grant a bonus of "1/2 Cleric level" or only last "1/2 Cleric level rounds". For the sake of Dipping, these bonuses aren't worth mentioning, as 1/2 of a 3 level Cleric is still only 1.
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The Feat Master (a build)

How many feats can we cram onto a single level 20 character?
We will ignore ALL Weapon/Armor/Shield feats. Just from leveling there will be +10 feats, these will be added at the end. Numbers in () at the end of a line are the running total.

Start with a Human, Bonus Feat (1)
Alchemist 1, Brew Potion, Throw Anything, (3)
Bard/Arcane Duelist 2, Arcane Strike, Combat Casting (5)
Cavalier/Musketeer 1, Teamwork Feat, Gunsmithing Feat (7)
Cleric 1, Blind-Fight, Disruptive (from Domains) (9)
Fighter/Unbreakable 2, Diehard, Endurance, Bonus Combat (11)
Gunslinger/Mustket Master 1, Gunsmithing, Rapid Reload (Musket) (13)
Magus/Spire Defender 1, Combat Expertise, Dodge (15)
Monk/Zen Archer 3, Bonus Combat X2, Improved Unarmed Strike, Perfect Strike, Weapon Focus, Point Blank Master (21)
Oracle 1, Weapon Focus (22)
Paladin/Holy Gun 1, Amateur Gunslinger, Gunsmithing (24)
Ranger 3, Bonus Combat, Endurance (26)
Rogue/Pirate 1, Sea Legs (27)
Sorcerer 1, Eschew Materials (28)
Wizard 1, Scribe Scroll (29)

That's 20 levels, adding in the general 10 we have 39 feats.
Granted we have Weapon Focus twice, but that's ok, it's weapon specific anyway. We also have Gunsmithing _3_ times though...

And for the sake of completeness:
Druid 1, can take a Domain/Inquisition and grab something.
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Domains are (briefly) covered in the Quick Reference section.

And I am attempting to be as specific as necessary. This means two things;
Time constraints are one. For example, I'm not going to type out EVERY single Rogue Talent, it would bloat the guide, and waste my time. I will probably throw a link to the PFSRD Rogue Talent page though, and/or point out some widely useful ones (like using a Rogue Talent to take a Combat Feat).
Much better to hit the especial highlights from such things, especially with regards to longevity of the ability's usefulness.
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