Malack seems to believe that once freed, vampire Durkon is going to be as congenial a conversational partner as before. If he does actually manage to get home and free Durkon, though, I suspect Durkon may not cooperate with this plan as well as Malack expects.
Malack seems to believe that once freed, vampire Durkon is going to be as congenial a conversational partner as before. If he does actually manage to get home and free Durkon, though, I suspect Durkon may not cooperate with this plan as well as Malack expects.
I find it rather amusing that Malack can be downright monstrous in most scenes and painfully naive in others. Certainly not what one would expect from a 200-year old vampire.
I don't think Durkon will cooperate with him at first, but he could just chain him to his coffin or something. Stockholm Syndrome for the win!
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I also can't help feeling sad for malack. Yes, I know he's strongly evil with that "1000 per day will be sacrificed", but that is work. as he said, he's a slave for his god and his place is to obey and find reward in service. he was sincerely friendly to durkon (to the point of letting a credible treath to his party live only to fulfill his last wish) and is sorry that his work required him to kill his friend, but he is lawful, so duty comes first.
In fact, he strongly reminds me the scene when hilgya asks durkon to abandon his party and durkon sends her away because he has a duty. Here malack could have just fled without harming durkon, and durkon would probably have let him, but he can't because he has a duty. Of a completely different nature, but still a duty.
He IS and evil opposite.
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He can bite me. And NO, not that way.
He can ALSO bite you that way. I doubt you're high level enough to stop him.
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Awww, poor little Malack. My heart bleeds for him.
No, wait, that's my neck.
This, basically. I mean, Durkon just got turned into the an undead abomination thrall of someone planning mass genocide, but POOR MALACK!
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Yep. Once the child vampire gets his free will back, the sire has no power over him/her.
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Malack seems to believe that once freed, vampire Durkon is going to be as congenial a conversational partner as before. If he does actually manage to get home and free Durkon, though, I suspect Durkon may not cooperate with this plan as well as Malack expects.
Will depends on how corrupt Durkon's soul is after he's given free will at last. He might not fully agree with Malack, but he might have a fresh new perspective on things now that he's a vampire. We might see how it unfolds sooner or later.
I for one can't wait to see how it unfolds as Durkon has probably the least character development out of all the OOTS. It will be nice to see him in the spotlight as he reconciles the fact he is now undead etc.
I am so tempted to start a thread titled, "Poor Xykon," about his inability to enjoy coffee.
(No, not going to. I don't think the moderators would think it was funny. But I'm just saying, it's tempting. Garg.)
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Durkon just got turned into the an undead abomination thrall of someone planning mass genocide, but POOR MALACK!
Now, that's jumping to conclusions. If I make thralls and plan mass murder, and I'm an undead abomination sworn to serve a God of Death and Destruction, it doesn't mean I'm evil. Malack must be... "good-impaired".
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I get a less "naive" vibe, more "I've been undead for so long, I forgot how the living see it".
I think that's it. He's obviously very wise, but in a sense he's kind of like Belkar or Nale in that he only understands sane human/humanoid thought processes in a purely academic and abstract sense. He understands that Durkon will probably be upset, but presumes that he'll just get over it in 1d4 weeks, as long as Malack doesn't kill any of his friends in front of him.
It's perfectly logical -- after all, people do get over betrayals and heartbreaks given time -- but no normal, feeling human being would make this kind of error in judgment.
I think that's it. He's obviously very wise, but in a sense he's kind of like Belkar or Nale in that he only understands sane human/humanoid thought processes in a purely academic and abstract sense. He understands that Durkon will probably be upset, but presumes that he'll just get over it in 1d4 weeks, as long as Malack doesn't kill any of his friends in front of him.
It's perfectly logical -- after all, people do get over betrayals and heartbreaks given time -- but no normal, feeling human being would make this kind of error in judgment.
Who knows, malack may even be correct. maybe after a few years durkon will accept his new nature. I doubt he'll be wanting to be friend with malack anyway, given the mass sacrifice involved, but aside from that he may get over everything else.
And, if being a vampire changes the way you think and pushes you towards evil, maybe durkon may lose thor's support, and start asking nergal for spells. Then he will become malack's friend.
After all, malack probably don't remember very much how humans think, but he knows very well the mental processes of vampires. And durkon is one of those at the moment.
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I am so tempted to start a thread titled, "Poor Xykon," about his inability to enjoy coffee.
(No, not going to. I don't think the moderators would think it was funny. But I'm just saying, it's tempting. Garg.)
Why stop there? Make a thread that argues that Xykon is Chaotic Good. Hell, if you put your mind to it, I'm sure you could come up with an argument that Xykon is lawful good and the real hero of the comic because he, like, didn't kill Redcloak this one time when it would have been really funny. In fact, I bet he's secretly a Paladin!
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I am so tempted to start a thread titled, "Poor Xykon," about his inability to enjoy coffee.
(No, not going to. I don't think the moderators would think it was funny. But I'm just saying, it's tempting. Garg.)
Hey! I honestly felt bad for Xykon when he lost the ability to enjoy coffee... Because I can actually feel simpathy, not like him... It was a big hit to one of his last remnants of "humanity"/living... Also that feeling lasted like 2, 3 seconds at most...
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I think that's it. He's obviously very wise, but in a sense he's kind of like Belkar or Nale in that he only understands sane human/humanoid thought processes in a purely academic and abstract sense. He understands that Durkon will probably be upset, but presumes that he'll just get over it in 1d4 weeks, as long as Malack doesn't kill any of his friends in front of him.
It's perfectly logical -- after all, people do get over betrayals and heartbreaks given time -- but no normal, feeling human being would make this kind of error in judgment.
That actually makes sense, while I don't like the wording "sane" he is clearly detached from average human(oid) thoughts in being an undead for over 200 years. He is wise, however his wisdom is interpreted in a way contrary to how most humanoids go about thinking.
Will depends on how corrupt Durkon's soul is after he's given free will at last.
I've been wondering about this a LOT. While Durkon's now evil, he's still Lawful, and engaged on a quest to save the whole world. No matter how selfish he may become, he still has a pressing reason to help.
...then again, he might just go over to Xykon, if he gets imprinted with the usual vampiric UNDEATH IS KEEN! mentality, and if he feels that safely controlling the Gates is possible.
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Make that a +2. Reading more about Tarquin and Co. as a prequel would make this comic even more amazing. I love both Malack and Tarquin, and I'm pretty confident I'll enjoy the rest of his team equally.
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Make that a +2. Reading more about Tarquin and Co. as a prequel would make this comic even more amazing. I love both Malack and Tarquin, and I'm pretty confident I'll enjoy the rest of his team equally.
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I'm pretty sure everyone on the forum wants this book.
I don't.
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Make that a +2. Reading more about Tarquin and Co. as a prequel would make this comic even more amazing. I love both Malack and Tarquin, and I'm pretty confident I'll enjoy the rest of his team equally.
I would love to see and meet the rest of Tarquin's team too!
...especially that cute catgirl (Even if she is insufferably evil - what else can be expected from a cat?)
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