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Old 02-13-2012, 10:36 PM   Top  -  End  -  #1
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This thread is for keeping track of which comics generated the most discussion in their official threads here on the board. Sometimes this is not strictly accurate, as many comics spawn huge related threads with many posts that aren't in the official discussion, but I can't do too much about that. In any case very popular, and especially controversial, comics seem to generate a lot of discussion in their own official thread regardless of how many side threads may exist.

Please keep all discussion of post count totals out of the threads being counted! Horse-race posts (e.g. "OMG the newest strip is cranking it into the top 25 in just 30 hours!") can go here instead. I haven't tried to enforce this in any way thus far, and it'd be way cool if I never had to, because the only ways I can think of to try and do such a thing would be really tedious and annoying and probably turn me off of trying to keep up with things at all. So please keep it cool.

Thread count includes all strips from #253, excluding threads that have been lost (meaning I can't access their post count). There are also a few strips whose threads were, due to board downtime, created after newer strips had already gone online. Although I do have the post count for those, it is so low they effectively do not have representation. Strips thus afflicted are:

#263 - The Great Escape
#340 - You Should Have Seen What He Did With the Corsage
#363 - I Fought the Law
#364 - Consider Their Lineage
#365 - Caught in the Act
#574 - A Seller's Market
#575 - I Think They're in One of the Rulebooks, Right?
#576 - Construction Workers

Two threads were affected due to off-topic or real-world politics/religion discussion and personal flaming:

#669 - Logical Conclusions was "rebooted" meaning a large quantity of posts were purged and are inaccessible to me. This affects both the total tally and the 24-hour count.

#889 - Get Real was simply locked before the next strip went online, so its final tally in the "total post count" may have been higher, however the 24-hour count is accurate.

TOP 25 STRIPS, posts total
(#253-#887)

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TOP 25 STRIPS, posts in 24 hours
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TOP 25 BY BOOK

TOP 25 OF WAR AND XPS (#301-#484)
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TOP 25 OF DON'T SPLIT THE PARTY (#485-#672)
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TOP TEN STRIPS BY YEAR

TOP TEN OF 2006 (#262-#395)
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TOP TEN OF 2007 (#396-#517)
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TOP TEN OF 2008 (#518-#618)
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TOP TEN OF 2009 (#619-#696)
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TOP TEN OF 2010 (#697-#766)
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TOP TEN OF 2011 (#767-#823)
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TOP TEN OF 2012 (#824-#864)
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Much gratitude is owed to the Discussion Thread Index, making the official discussion threads easy to find and count. Thanks, Lira and hamishspence!

I've had people ask me for the XML data in the past, so they can try their own tricks with it, which is cool with me. It keeps track of titles, # of pages in the strip, the date the strip's online thread was posted, and a few others, with links to every online strip and relevant discussion thread. Latest download here.

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Old 02-13-2012, 10:46 PM   Top  -  End  -  #2
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Very interesting idea!
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That's some impressive work B. Dandelion.

I can't help but wonder though, can the growth in forum membership and participation be factored in to account for the more extensive discussions of some of the latest strips?
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I'm interested to notice that quite a few posts in the 448 thread are bewailing the unceremonious slaughter of the Sapphire Guard and citing it as more evidence that "Rich hates paladins". Quite a bit jarring for those of us following the threads for the demise of the Resistance. Maybe SoD hadn't come out yet then?
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I'm interested to notice that quite a few posts in the 448 thread are bewailing the unceremonious slaughter of the Sapphire Guard and citing it as more evidence that "Rich hates paladins". Quite a bit jarring for those of us following the threads for the demise of the Resistance. Maybe SoD hadn't come out yet then?
SoD? Try #449 hadn't come out yet. 'Cause it only took one strip to turn the paladins into ultra-heroic game-changing lich-kicking goblin-trouncing badasses.
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That's some impressive work B. Dandelion.
Thank you!

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I can't help but wonder though, can the growth in forum membership and participation be factored in to account for the more extensive discussions of some of the latest strips?
Do you mean, is the data probably going to skew somewhat towards more recent strips?

Or is there some process I can apply to the data to account for it?

To the first, I would say yes, although actually less than I would have thought. The third, fourth, and fifth books seem to be able to compete pretty fairly, and even the second book manages to crack the top ten.

As to the second, I'm not sure. I could easily give breakdowns by book, but I don't think I have any data that I could use to "adjust for inflation", as it were.

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Old 02-14-2012, 12:57 AM   Top  -  End  -  #7
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SoD? Try #449 hadn't come out yet. 'Cause it only took one strip to turn the paladins into ultra-heroic game-changing lich-kicking goblin-trouncing badasses.
What I meant is that SoD is probably the reason why the status of paladins/Azurites in general fell among the forum-goers. Like I said, nowadays I don't think that Rich "hating paladins" is what people would whine about.

(And in point of fact, one of the first posts in the 449 thread said something along the lnes of "betcha Xykon kills them all again next strip").
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What I meant is that SoD is probably the reason why the status of paladins/Azurites in general fell among the forum-goers.
Think it's more likely that Miko started this idea that Rich hates paladins, because nobody seemed to get that Miko was the specific example of how NOT to play a paladin in Rich's eyes--e.g. Detect Evil on everything and smite if it glows! We'd already seen plenty of better examples of paladins by the time #448 rolled around, but the "Rich hates paladins" idea was thoroughly ingrained into the forum consciousness at that point.
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Think it's more likely that Miko started this idea that Rich hates paladins, because nobody seemed to get that Miko was the specific example of how NOT to play a paladin in Rich's eyes--e.g. Detect Evil on everything and smite if it glows! We'd already seen plenty of better examples of paladins by the time #448 rolled around, but the "Rich hates paladins" idea was thoroughly ingrained into the forum consciousness at that point.
I agree - my point as far as the "Rich hates paladins" thing goes is that it's just very jarring to read people complaining about this alleged bias when nowadays, speaking from a very broad stereotypical standpoint, it's the forum-dwellers who hate paladins. It's hardly a universal attitude, but (for instance) I remember following the 827 discussion, and despite the general tone of "Thanh! Nooooo!", there were a few people legitimately cheering Redcloak on. And in most other threads, it's more then a few. Either attitude is sort of a fringe view, but I just think it's very odd to see the reversal, and I figure that SoD is the most likely reason this changed. Everyone's a sucker for a tragic villain's backstory...
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Great data! You should post it in .XLS so we other people can make pie charts and such out of it.
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I agree - my point as far as the "Rich hates paladins" thing goes is that it's just very jarring to read people complaining about this alleged bias when nowadays, speaking from a very broad stereotypical standpoint, it's the forum-dwellers who hate paladins. It's hardly a universal attitude, but (for instance) I remember following the 827 discussion, and despite the general tone of "Thanh! Nooooo!", there were a few people legitimately cheering Redcloak on. And in most other threads, it's more then a few. Either attitude is sort of a fringe view, but I just think it's very odd to see the reversal, and I figure that SoD is the most likely reason this changed. Everyone's a sucker for a tragic villain's backstory...
Don't underestimate the controversy of the Elven Strike Team. I think they more than anything else turned opinions about the Resistance.
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Cool . It's interesting to look at some of the old threads from long before I started watching the forum (or even started reading the comic).
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Well, you can access the xml data if you want... here.

It lists all the strips, the dates for the ones I know, and the post count for the ones after #253. Also it keeps track of the number of pages per strip and the book they're included in (or will be included in, I assume).

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That's some impressive work B. Dandelion.

I can't help but wonder though, can the growth in forum membership and participation be factored in to account for the more extensive discussions of some of the latest strips?
This should be taken into account for sure.

Another thing that should be accounted may be that there are for sure more answers to a topic when we have three weeks between two strips, rather than three days.

So the length of time between two strips could be taken into account.
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The whole list from 253-853, lowest to highest:

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Mmmhhh... the strip numbering looks like a cluster of hexadecimal code. If we translate it, it will give us a cryptogram whose traslation provides a hidden message from Rich. Probably the answer to the identity of MitD. Or maybe it's the code for an OOTS computer game.
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Thanks for the spreadsheet data! Now we can do cool things like show the top 10 threads for the past twelve months:

Posts // Date // Info
  1. 851 // 23-Jan-12 // Tidying Up (death of Tsukiko)
  2. 543 // 15-Jul-11 // Smash (STOP TALKING)
  3. 530 // 10-Jan-12 // Minimal Resistance (Implosion)
  4. 510 // 23-Mar-11 // Cold Blooded (Crossbowmen fire on Enor & Gannji)
  5. 476 // 18-Apr-11 // A Vexation or Irritation (Thog says, "fudge the police!")
  6. 451 // 8-Jun-11 // We Recommend Tsukiko (Elan kisses Sabine)
  7. 449 // 5-May-11 // Unfamiliar (Qarr reappears)
  8. 446 // 28-Mar-11 // Unexpected (Allosaurus ex machina)
  9. 445 // 6-Jan-12 // Good Thing He's Already Partial to Red (Redcloak redecorates)
  10. 441 // 4-Oct-11 // Five Rows Down, Three Columns Over (Roy drops a roof on Thog)

Tsukiko had 300 more posts than the second place topic, an increase of 36%.



The twelve month average was 305 posts per comic, and the lowest number of posts was 123, Never Mind, She'd Need a Better Bow to Use It (Roy & Haley making contingency plans)

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Something else to keep in mind is that in many instances, posters started threads to discuss issues that should have been brought up in the official thread for a particular strip. This happened more with some strips than others, but I certainly wouldn't expect anybody to actually do a count of such threads by strip (especially as some of them would be judgment calls, anyway).
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Something else to keep in mind is that in many instances, posters started threads to discuss issues that should have been brought up in the official thread for a particular strip. This happened more with some strips than others, but I certainly wouldn't expect anybody to actually do a count of such threads by strip (especially as some of them would be judgment calls, anyway).
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Another thing that should be accounted may be that there are for sure more answers to a topic when we have three weeks between two strips, rather than three days.

So the length of time between two strips could be taken into account.
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Yeah, I was expecting the strip just before the long hiatus to have been on the list, for that reason. Or was it closed before the next one was up?
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841's thread has just catapulted itself onto here.
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It's broken the top 20 in like 12 hours.
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It's broken the top 20 in like 12 hours.
And a couple of thread merges later, it's about to crack the Top 10.
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Does anyone know if there is still data on the exact day each strip was posted? Because there may well be a correlation between the amount of time when a strip is the latest (and thus its official discussion page is near the top of the thread list) and the number of posts it gets.

And considering that #841 is the last strip of our strip-a-day week, and Rich has a lot of Kickstarter stuff to organise, and so might not post again for a while, it may well be that #841 is the most commented on strip ever.

It certainly deserves it. At the culmination of a great week for Order of the Stick as a whole, and as the last part of a fantastic reward, we get a strip that is perfectly plotted, brilliantly drawn, and simply chilling to read. And it's not a cliffhanger involving what the characters will do or say, or a cliffhanger with a huge revelation - it's a cliffhanger where we are given a mystery and are desperately theorising and debating over its meaning.

There are so many great theories in the thread, and so many arguments in support of each of them, I'm not sure I want to keep reading the thread. I just want the next strip, so I can see what happens.

If Rich decides to switch to the PoV of Team Evil, or the Linear Guild, or some other characters, for the next strip, then I might tear my hair out in frustration - although I won't be angry at Rich.

Despite the theorising, I prefer to think of this strip as quite possibly Rich's best so far. Sure, it doesn't have the raw awesome factor like some other strips do, but its brilliantly plotted, written, paced, drawn and styled. That final image at the end is horrifying, but magnificently so. Well done Giant. At the end of a hectic week for you, you produced something amazing. I certainly think you deserve a break right now :) .
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Does anyone know if there is still data on the exact day each strip was posted?
Yes. For any that have a thread.

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Because there may well be a correlation between the amount of time when a strip is the latest (and thus its official discussion page is near the top of the thread list) and the number of posts it gets.
There is, although it might be somewhat less than you expect. Of the top ten, for example, the longest time up was 7 days, while the others were all under five days. Of the top 25, one strip was up for 12 days, but again most were much less.

The strips most affected by time seem to be the 1-day strips -- it makes more difference to the comments to have a shortage of time than an excess.

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And considering that #841 is the last strip of our strip-a-day week, and Rich has a lot of Kickstarter stuff to organise, and so might not post again for a while, it may well be that #841 is the most commented on strip ever.
Most commented-on strip ever -- 1160 posts -- was up for three days. The strip that was up for the longest amount of time, 794, for a full 32 days, only garnered 451 posts. Runner up for 23 days, 672, had 460 posts.

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It certainly deserves it. At the culmination of a great week for Order of the Stick as a whole, and as the last part of a fantastic reward, we get a strip that is perfectly plotted, brilliantly drawn, and simply chilling to read. And it's not a cliffhanger involving what the characters will do or say, or a cliffhanger with a huge revelation - it's a cliffhanger where we are given a mystery and are desperately theorising and debating over its meaning.

There are so many great theories in the thread, and so many arguments in support of each of them, I'm not sure I want to keep reading the thread. I just want the next strip, so I can see what happens.

If Rich decides to switch to the PoV of Team Evil, or the Linear Guild, or some other characters, for the next strip, then I might tear my hair out in frustration - although I won't be angry at Rich.

Despite the theorising, I prefer to think of this strip as quite possibly Rich's best so far. Sure, it doesn't have the raw awesome factor like some other strips do, but its brilliantly plotted, written, paced, drawn and styled. That final image at the end is horrifying, but magnificently so. Well done Giant. At the end of a hectic week for you, you produced something amazing. I certainly think you deserve a break right now :) .
Well I can't really touch any of that! Nicely said.

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Old 02-24-2012, 11:30 PM   Top  -  End  -  #27
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I'd be curious about this stat: number of posts divided number of days between comics. Some post counts climb due to people getting impatient between comics.
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#841 is up to #4 on the list now, and still growing strong. I'm pretty sure it's going to be the most commented on ever. I mean, it only came out yesterday, so there's still a lot of mileage left in the discussion.

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#841 is up to #4 on the list now, and still growing strong. I'm pretty sure it's going to be the most commented on ever. I mean, it only came out yesterday, so there's still a lot of mileage left in the discussion.
#841 is now 3rd and still rising.
Considering current Rich's workload, new comic won't be out very soon.
So 841 sure is climbing to the top.
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Very cool index! A point of organization, though: if you have a tie in lists like this, it's customary to skip the next number so it lines up at the end.

Example:


1st place: Roy
2nd place: Horace
3rd place: Julia and Eugene (tie)
5th place: Sara


Sara is in 5th, not 4th, because there are four people ahead of her.
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