I really wish there was a way to do the voice though. The spell doesn't cover voices. Even if it was a separate spell you had to cast after the first one, it would really allow for the fun and clever tricks Illusion is meant for.
You can roll a Fel test with the help of the Mimic talent, like the rest of us Muggles. But honestly, Doppelganger has quite a low casting roll for such a useful spell, so I don't think there's anything to complain about. Sometimes the most basic spells are the best.
(See also: Form of the Soaring Raven, allowing you to turn into a raven for up to one hour with a casting roll of only 7. Uses include but are not limited to fast travel, fleeing, escaping bonds, hiding, spying, scouting and infiltration. Easily the most versatile spell in the game. Alone, it makes the Lore of Beasts worth taking.)
@ LCP: No worries, we can survive a three-day hiatus. You don't have to apologize - we should be thanking you for being such a diligent GM. Good luck.
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What use this is supposed to be to actual human beings, I have no idea. What it has to do with particle physics, still less. .. I've been dreading this thing for weeks.
Well, you have my total sympathy, having had to do these things for work and once at school. That said, the best advice you'll get is to go into it with an open mind and at least give it a fair chance - it's not total rubbish, and usually the people who resist it the hardest are the ones who stand to gain the most from it.
And I agree with the others - no worries whatsoever. We're patient totally understand.
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usually the people who resist it the hardest are the ones who stand to gain the most from it.
And this has been quantified and measured in some meaningful way, has it?
Nope, I'm going to go with the 'parasitic industry of gibberish-mongers pointlessly wasting valuable man-hours' viewpoint and just wait 'til it's over.
Alas, our poor GM. I knew him well, Drew... a man of infinite resolve and epic stories...
Wait, oh... Not dead? Well I guess it'll just really, really suck then. Good luck bearing it, hun!
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And this has been quantified and measured in some meaningful way, has it?
Yes. It's measured in the fact that other people - people you'll have to work with - desire to feel respected. And seeing you put some effort into considering their emotions, and how to relate to less left-brained people, will make a big difference for them and, ultimately, for how well you work with them.
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It's measured in the fact that other people - people you'll have to work with - desire to feel respected.
In what units?
I'm not contending that social skills aren't important in the workplace. I'm saying that this kind of bunk has no evidential basis on which to claim it improves them.
I'm sorry but I just spat my tea out with laughter. Thank god it didn't get on my laptop.
But yeah these team building things are stupid. well not stupid, they have a point and they can work but all the things picked up from it can be taught in a 2 hour seminar on how to work as a group unit.
It's really not hard.
1) Learn to take orders, learn to give orders.
2)The people around you are people, they have feelings.
3) Don't be a ****.
4) Consider other points of view.
Half hour on each of those and you're done.
I used to have to do those kinds of things when I was in the cadets, I learned a lot the first time, nothing more all the subsequent times (over 5 years). So I feel your pain.
I'm not contending that social skills aren't important in the workplace. I'm saying that this kind of bunk has no evidential basis on which to claim it improves them.
I don't know the specifics of the particular thing you're attending, but most of these tend to focus on the preferred communication styles of different types of people. You are going to have to work with people who are non-linear and receive talk of feelings and experiences better than they receive talk of reasoning and evidential basis. Yes, even in a science career.
If you have some reason to believe that the particular program being used won't help you learn and practice that, that's a valid gripe.
To be frank though it sounds like it just makes you uncomfortable and takes you out of your element, so you're upset, and you're turning to the "how do we even know it works" argument to justify your resistance.
/armchair psych
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I dunno. It sounds to me like one of those trust excercise things where you try to catch people who fall backwards and whatnot. Those are, indeed, kinda useless. Maybe if it was actually about communication styles, and was dealt with in a sound and logical manner rather than this nonsense with blindfolds...
I notice I've been falling into a habit lately that I don't like, which is playing devil's advocate to everything.
What's wrong with that? Someone's got to do it. It's a good way to see all sides of the issue. Even if you disagree with the side you're defending, it can help you determine why you disagree with it and what might lead people to agree with it; and if it turns out there just aren't any good arguments to defend it, then it just strengthens your belief that this position is wrong. It also forces opponents to challenge their own opinions and defend them with logic and reason, which sometimes leads them to come up with arguments they hadn't thought of before.
See, I just played devil's advocate to playing devil's advocate. :P
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What's wrong with that? Someone's got to do it. It's a good way to see all sides of the issue. Even if you disagree with the side you're defending, it can help you determine why you disagree with it and what might lead people to agree with it; and if it turns out there just aren't any good arguments to defend it, then it just strengthens your belief that this position is wrong. It also forces opponents to challenge their own opinions and defend them with logic and reason, which sometimes leads them to come up with arguments they hadn't thought of before.
See, I just played devil's advocate to playing devil's advocate. :P
There is, however, a difference between actively arguing a contrary viewpoint with the intention of understanding the debate better, rather than being contrary just for the sake of it. I do know people who will disagree with anything you say just to have a debate, not to actually further anyone's knowledge. So devils advocate is a fine line to tread between using it as a reason and using it as an excuse.
Well I for one support your playing of devil's advocate, as well as Gabe's playing of devil's advocate to the IDEA of devil's advocate. I advocate advocating the idea of advocation.
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What's wrong with that? Someone's got to do it. It's a good way to see all sides of the issue.
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There is, however, a difference between actively arguing a contrary viewpoint with the intention of understanding the debate better, rather than being contrary just for the sake of it.
I agree with both of you.
Thus, not playing the devil's advocate. Or... wait... playing both devils' advocates, thus making me archangel's advocate.
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Welp, you folks can all argue all you want, but I just got back from it and I can confidently say it was 100% bull****. There was startling unanimity on that point, actually. Theory can go suck it, I have brought back the data.
Nevertheless, I scored a sweet blindfold what I stole by accident, and a £15 Amazon voucher that they had to give me when they made the mistake of making their interdisciplinary collaboration competition into a popular vote (the coordinators were so cross with our idea! It's like they thought that wiping out malarial mosquitos using iron supplements and an enormous solenoidal magnet was somehow silly). Not to mention the part when they made us design a social event for our 'opposites' on the Myers-Briggs personality whatever, and 99% of the hall migrated to one table and designed an extremely sarcastic 'Outdoor Love Summit' for touchy-feely people.
I feel I have exacted some small measure of vengeance. Plus, I have met some cool biologists and civil engineers, and our shared suffering made it easy to make friends.
Pip 3, Vacuous Time-Wasting Parasites 0. Updates will resume from tomorrow.
Not to mention the part when they made us design a social event for our 'opposites' on the Myers-Briggs personality whatever, and 99% of the hall migrated to one table and designed an extremely sarcastic 'Outdoor Love Summit' for touchy-feely people.
Haha, I almost wish I'd been there.
(The self-help course, that is. Not the Outdoor Love Summit.)
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Sounds like you had fun. Pity about the blindfold though... if you don't get the fuzzy handcuffs that go with it, it's too easy for them to just take the thing back off.
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Sounds like you had fun. Pity about the blindfold though... if you don't get the fuzzy handcuffs that go with it, it's too easy for them to just take the thing back off.
Fuzzy handcuffs? I use cold steel.
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Welp, you folks can all argue all you want, but I just got back from it and I can confidently say it was 100% bull****. There was startling unanimity on that point, actually. Theory can go suck it, I have brought back the data.
Well, that sucks. Glad you made friends & got a blindfold, though. I think if you are ever forced to go to another one of these you should insist on wearing the blindfold through the whole thing.
Also, huzzah! We have our GM back!
Which, I suppose, makes it a good time to let you know this: On March 10 (week from Saturday), I begin a series of flights, rental car rides, hotels, monastery visits, drunken salsa dancing, booty call road trips, and IRL D&D games that will last more or less till 3/18. I'm not saying I won't have wi-fi and time at all during that week, but it will be sketchy at best.
At the end of it though I will be visiting with my parents for a while in Wisconsin, USA so I will be back in style.
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On a completely unrelated and tangential note - Gabriel, am I remembering rightly that you invented a set of in-universe card suits at some point during THAM? Can you remember what you called them?
:On a completely unrelated and tangential note - Gabriel, am I remembering rightly that you invented a set of in-universe card suits at some point during THAM? Can you remember what you called them?
There were Skulls and Roses in my short story A Blessing in Disguise. It's entirely possible that I mentioned them in THAM as well, as I had this idea quite a bit of time ago... I think my first reference to these two suits was at the Rezephua board.
I don't know what the other two suits might be. I see Skulls and Roses as analogous to Spades and Hearts, respectively, so we're looking for another black suit (Edit: I suggest Hammers) and another red suit.
Unrelated: I'm very pissed because the students of my department just decided, by a vote of 52.6 percent, to join the Québec-wide strike against the rise of tuition fees. While I agree in principle that university should be affordable, this strike had better not screw up my term or, worse, my internship this summer.
I blame the 45 percent who couldn't be bothered to vote.
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I'd be more angry about the rise in prices than the chance of delayed marks. That said, student strikes don't do a damn thing. You need faculty to strike, and to actually mean it.
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There were Skulls and Roses in my short story A Blessing in Disguise. It's entirely possible that I mentioned them in THAM as well, as I had this idea quite a bit of time ago... I think my first reference to these two suits was at the Rezephua board.
I don't know what the other two suits might be. I see Skulls and Roses as analogous to Spades and Hearts, respectively, so we're looking for another black suit (Edit: I suggest Hammers) and another red suit.
A quick search suggests it was Skulls, Roses, Hammers and Stars.
A quick search suggests it was Skulls, Roses, Hammers and Stars.
That's awesome.
Pip, I'm not clear from your comment earlier - have we done away with the WP test to cast in melee, or did we just skip it for that one round because we'd been forgetting it?
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Scrapping that houserule altogether. If my brain shortcuts to not using it without even thinking about it (as I did before), it's going to be more trouble than it's worth.
Waiting to see if the other PCs (primarily Lothar, with all them weapons) want to take Sigurd in hand before I put up the villagers' reactions. If you're doing nothing, an OOC show of hands is fine.
I'd be more angry about the rise in prices than the chance of delayed marks. That said, student strikes don't do a damn thing. You need faculty to strike, and to actually mean it.
I'm getting my degree next winter, so right now I'm (perhaps selfishly) more concerned about finishing my damn term. Besides, university is cheaper in Québec than anyplace else in North America, and economists say a rise in tuition fees is inevitable and long overdue. (I'm no economist, but I do understand that someone, somewhere, has to pay to keep education affordable.)
Also, if a student strike is ineffective, all the more reason to oppose it.
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Waiting to see if the other PCs (primarily Lothar, with all them weapons) want to take Sigurd in hand before I put up the villagers' reactions. If you're doing nothing, an OOC show of hands is fine.
Pieter washes his hands of Sigurd. If Illiiya's splendidly worded plea does not make him back down, nothing Pieter can say will.
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I'm going to assume that that smart thing to do (Int) would be to take the out from Illiiya and the dutiful thing to do (WP) would be to stand his ground.
I'll roll one of each. The one that succeeds by a greater margin prevails.
Int vs. 51: (1d100)[84]
WP vs. 45: (1d100)[6]
edit: Aye, he took his vows seriously, ol' Sigurd did. And ne'er a foiner wizard there was!
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