Have just dropped Frankie a PM to check up on him - I get the impression that Lothar & Illiiya are waiting on Ith's input, but he hasn't said anything in a while. If I don't hear from him by the time I get back this evening, shall I move Lothar towards the Faulebrands'?
On a separate note, a general apology if it seems I'm being a bit slow lately. The last episode of my Dark Heresy campaign just finished, and we had one dropout so I'm in the middle of a recruitment thread for the next one. Plus, plotting out the adventure I'm recruiting for! I hear it's good practice to have one of those 'plan' things.
As a result, TLOLH may run a little slow for the next week or so, although I will still endeavour to post on the same day that a GM update is called for. I'm sorry, I should have mentioned this a bit earlier.
Illiiya's content to wait here if that's what Lothar wants. No need to wait on her account. She'll put the doctor's things back in his bag and leave them someplace. Not right out in the open, but she's wary of taking the stuff to her room. A simple, out of the way spot downstairs, perhaps?
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Thanks, Chris. Not clear from the last few IC posts if Ith and Lothar have any further plans before closing the day - if not, I'm guessing a going-to-bed update will be coming as soon as the party are done with any further discussions.
Don't want to slow things down here - please give me some guidance as soon as you're ready to move on.
More like a vigilante. If we uncover strong, solid evidence (beyond what we already have) that the doctor's poisoning the girl, or allied with Nurgle, but can't convince Verloren? Welp, we have all these swords.
Wait until the guy's outta town, track him down, and schlick. *shrugs*
Lothar's advocated waiting until we know things for sure. At no point has he (or I) ever said we are restricted to legal channels once we do.
We are just not going to kill innocent people, that's all.
EDIT: Do we want to check on the Faulebrands/sneak about tonight, Frankie, or let Pip do a night-time update?
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You know, we could just sneak in and kill the Doctor during the night, make it looked like a botched chaos ritual and ride out of town before sunrise. If he's innocent then we just have to chalk it down to experience.
This is what I end up thinking about when really I should be writing my essay, less than 12 hours till the deadline. Operation All-Nighter is a go.
I really like the idea of just planting some cult symbols in his room... but no. I was going to plant evidence in his bag earlier and I botched the casting roll to do it discreetly. I think I'm out of the frame-job business for tonight.
I'm okay with a fast-forward-sleepy-time post. Otherwise Sigurd will sit silently with Lothar &c and drink an ale.
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I really like the idea of just planting some cult symbols in his room... but no. I was going to plant evidence in his bag earlier and I botched the casting roll to do it discreetly.
But that would be wrong.
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I really like the idea of just planting some cult symbols in his room... but no. I was going to plant evidence in his bag earlier and I botched the casting roll to do it discreetly.
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But that would be wrong.
Heh. Not only that: if you'd been caught, our credibility as accusers would have flown right out the window, and we'd be down to Lothar's vigilante plan (provided the villagers didn't hang us first). Pieter's not a big fan of the law, but he won't go out of his way to break it unless all other options have been exhausted.
What evidence would you have planted, anyway?
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Heh. Not only that: if you'd been caught, our credibility as accusers would have flown right out the window,
Yeah, that's exactly why I'm not even suggesting it IC.
My earlier attempt would've been find because I was going to use Cloak Activity. A dozen witnesses could all say that no one opened or tampered with the bag, when in fact I slipped stuff into it.
That was the spell I botched earlier outside the Faulebrand's.
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What evidence would you have planted, anyway?
Draw a couple of (incorrectly drawn) Nurgle symbols and slip them among his papers. Or, in this case, have Ithelus hide them under his mattress, but... see also: if we're caught/our credibility.
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My earlier attempt would've been fine because I was going to use Cloak Activity. A dozen witnesses could all say that no one opened or tampered with the bag, when in fact I slipped stuff into it.
Like any crime, a frameup can be exposed even if no one gets caught in the act. At the very least, Reifennen might have asked: "Oh please, what kind of Chaos cultist would be stupid enough to draw Chaos signs all over his stuff? Anyone can see this was planted there." And he would be sincere and convincing about it, too.
I don't think the Chaos signs are widely known, anyway. At least, Pieter couldn't identify the sign of Slaanesh in Delberz.
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...Draw a couple of (incorrectly drawn) Nurgle symbols and slip them among his papers.
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At the very least, Reifennen might have asked: "Oh please, what kind of Chaos cultist would be stupid enough to draw Chaos signs all over his stuff?"
I prefer to imagine that Sigurd was hoping Reifennen would say "I didn't draw those! They aren't even right, you idiots, this is how you draw Nurgle's rune... oh, crap."
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I don't think the Chaos signs are widely known, anyway.
People generally recognise that they're bad news, though, even if they're not aware of the specific meaning.
Update coming along some time this evening. It may be slow going, I think it's going to be fairly chunky.
I prefer to imagine that Sigurd was hoping Reifennen would say "I didn't draw those! They aren't even right, you idiots, this is how you draw Nurgle's rune... oh, crap."
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People generally recognise that they're bad news, though, even if they're not aware of the specific meaning.
Bam.
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I don't think the Chaos signs are widely known, anyway. At least, Pieter couldn't identify the sign of Slaanesh in Delberz.
Lothar did (I think). Lothar saw that on banners, during the War. I imagine he's seen some other symbols as well. By the same token, these folk live in the Drakwald, and there was that Storm of Chaos thing not too long ago.
I'm willing to bet some of them recognise things they oughtn't.
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People generally recognise that they're bad news, though, even if they're not aware of the specific meaning.
Like the books or objects in the Lovecraftian mythos, symbols of Chaos feel wrong. They do not belong in this world, on that tree, branded into the skin of that guy swingin' an axe at your face.
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It doesn't help that the chaos gods are gods of... well... chaos. Some people know them as different names, under different symbols and the like. Sure slaanesh has an "official" symbol, but that's for marketing's sake. More likely he/she has many, depending on the worshippers involved and how he/she was feeling that day. Also, to the untrained eye, chaos symbols and runes and mage symbols and rune are the same. They're all just scribbles on paper to most people. Illiiya was exposed to a LOT of slaanesh imagery back with the covenant of sorceress (Which is essentially a giant slaanesh-worshipping lesbian sleepover at times), but she'd be hard pressed to identify a slaaneshi rune on sight.
Or at least, that's how I see it. Who's to say the Imperial followers of a chaos god use the same symbol as the Estalian ones... or the Druchii ones... or the Tileans... or the Ind... or the Cathayans... etc etc... If nothing else, that's an epically great way to get caught.
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Like the books or objects in the Lovecraftian mythos, symbols of Chaos feel wrong. They do not belong in this world, on that tree, branded into the skin of that guy swingin' an axe at your face.
I love this.
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the covenant of sorceress (Which is essentially a giant slaanesh-worshipping lesbian sleepover at times)
Mmm cookies.
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What Chris said, more or less. I'd add that I see the 'core' rune as the most basic element of their worship, the one that tends to recur on daemons and daemonic artifacts dedicated to those gods.
But yup. Lots of varieties.
Hell, Pip and I were coming up with concepts for a Nurgle-themed Chaos army once and designed a bunch o' heraldic symbols for the ol' Lord of Flies. Each was distinctly Nurgle, but they weren't all the stylised fly.
(I say 'Pip and I', but he did all the real work.)
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the innkeeper looked as sick as Pieter had ever seen anyone look
I can't help but read this as
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By the way Pip, sometimes I forget you run other games too and how much you have going on. The other day when you mentioned your DH game it was a little reminder for me. The updates you do for us are true poetry, and it's impressive you can do it all. So thanks.
We'll deal with whatever pace you need while you handle other stuff.
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Is that (among other things) the direction of the Manor?
Also, would any of Sigurd's academic training (Magic, History) afford a role to know anything about this? I imagine that the combination of miasma, snail trails (tee hee), and singsong voices might correspond to a particular type of event, ritual or legendary being.
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North- direction of the Realm of Chaos, the Blasted Lands, the Bestial Places, the Frozen Wastes Where Daemons do Walk, Home of Those That Cannot and Must Not Be Named, the Land of the Never-Lived...
The combination of that with 'Lord of Flies' screams Nurgle. It paints on the wall in a mixture of blood, and pus.
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Is that (among other things) the direction of the Manor?
You can see the precise orientation of the Manor with respect to the Heartless Man on the maps.
It's coming from the north in the same sense that a north wind blows from the north.
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Also, would any of Sigurd's academic training (Magic, History) afford a role to know anything about this? I imagine that the combination of miasma, snail trails (tee hee), and singsong voices might correspond to a particular type of event, ritual or legendary being.
"The Lord of Flies" is a by-name for Nurgle. He is often associated with carrion-eating animals and creepy-crawlies.
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