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Old 05-08-2012, 01:56 PM   Top  -  End  -  #151
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Lot 11 intrigues me. Mr. Kastor will likely be saving lots of his money for that.

Let's see...
I don't want the Angle-Grinder Slugs. We know full well what one of those did to Keynes, and will be leaving them alone.

Tychon will put in a few token bids on Lot 2, because it looks interesting and therefore of worth to a collector. He's not going to try and win it if someone else really wants it.

Suspect that Norton will try for the Kroot. He can have them.

Lot 4... Tychon will wait and see what the others do. If nobody is jumping in, he'll place a few bids, but again, he's not willing to go particularly high. I have D'Aragnia pegged for wanting these, for some reason.

Lot 5 are another interesting thing. These, Tychon will probably try to get, though I'd like to hear the Auctioner's explanation of what they are before he starts bidding on them. I'd also like to know what the initial bid is, and how people seem to be going on it, before setting a price ceiling on them.

Lot 6, definitely bidding on. Willing to get into a bidding war on those. Again, like to hear the initial bid.

Seven and Eight, left alone. Worms are ALWAYS unpleasant in this setting, and the Ambulls look especially nasty.

Lot 9, the weird crocodiles. Going to try and drive the price on these up a bit, once people start dropping out. Tychon doesn't want to actually win them, so he'll stop if people start seeming hesitant about going higher.

10: WURMS. Token bids, once again.

And, lot 11. Want. We should probably do that one in play-by-play. It strikes me as important.
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Old 05-08-2012, 02:47 PM   Top  -  End  -  #152
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I would suggest that we try to give the impression of having an agenda and looking for a particular style of creature, lest the others wonder why exactly we're here. So, Destro's suggestions seem to put Kastor as a collector of the beautiful and the bizarre, which I think is probably a pretty sound identity - we're not looking for anything overly violent, or ... eel-like. I bet Simeon uses that sort of thing for leeching.

Lot 9 strikes me as having a similar weirdness factor to two, so, again, it sounds good that Kastor would express an interest but not enough to obtain them if the price gets too high. Lot 4 seems similar to 6, being more entertainment-oriented, so I suggest we look into them. Might have a bit of competition from the circus man on that front, however.

Just a couple of thoughts from me, really.
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Old 05-08-2012, 02:54 PM   Top  -  End  -  #153
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Eleven is obviously the prize, as stated.
Red will be very interested in any agendas other auction-goers seem to pursue, especially Millie, as stated in-character.

I like Destro's plan of starting bidding wars with the intention to lose.

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Old 05-08-2012, 03:27 PM   Top  -  End  -  #154
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how does a cross section of an angle-grinder compare with that of a standard shotcannon shell?
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Old 05-08-2012, 04:18 PM   Top  -  End  -  #155
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how does a cross section of an angle-grinder compare with that of a standard shotcannon shell?
Quite well, until the powder is lit behind it and the little bugger balloons out and explodes from the pressure. Great way to surprise someone, though.

I like Destro's bidding plans; should make things interesting. However, I cannot shake the feeling that there's a catch here; something very important we're likely missing, like 'Lot 11 is a decoy and we really want lot 2' or something like that. Or we'll get through lots 1-11 and the ogryn will wheel out something else, right when we've spent all of our allotted bidding money.
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Old 05-08-2012, 04:37 PM   Top  -  End  -  #156
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piglet-sized
Thanks for the detailed bidding notes, all. Where you've described bids as being 'token' I'll summarise and skip forwards in bunches; where you've asked for more information I will pause. For lots 5 & 6 I think we'll use skill rolls after I've given you the initial info and the starting bid, rather than a blow-by-blow - you tell me how high you're willing to go, I'll cross-reference that with the NPCs and we'll resolve it by use of the appropriate social skills (Barter, Charm or a Fel-based Intimidate, your choice. Different skills obviously represent different approaches), from whoever in the party feels most qualified. Similarly for driving up the price on lot 9.

As requested, we'll break for a blow-by-blow on Lot 11. Destro, if you're going to be doing the bidding, once we start approaching that point please gmail/gchat me to arrange some time we can both log on and get it sorted. We should probably tell the others too so that they can spectate and intervene if they want!

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Old 05-09-2012, 05:18 AM   Top  -  End  -  #157
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piglet sized is not a traditional unit of comparison

with a bit of squeezing, could you fit a piglet in a shotcannon?
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Old 05-09-2012, 08:39 AM   Top  -  End  -  #158
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The only scientific answer is that we must carry out an experiment to find out.
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Old 05-09-2012, 01:25 PM   Top  -  End  -  #159
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Ok, so, lot 5. Tychon wants to save most of his money for lots 6 and 11. Let's put an upper ceiling of 275,000 on these. That doesn't seem unreasonable for something that started at 100,000.

I think we should get the inestimable Mr. Drake to do the roll for these. Of the lot of us, he's got the best shot at actually succeeding.
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Alright, let's try straight Barter. I assume you won't be Fortune Pointing these rolls, please correct me if I'm wrong.

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Well, not FPing that one anyway, but I'm open to spending one on one of the important lots.

Incidentally, if we want to go through 11 blow-by-blow and still work off Tauron's Fellowship, I'm happy to participate in real time, chat or what-not, if that works.
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Old 05-10-2012, 02:42 PM   Top  -  End  -  #162
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I had a horrible thought at work. What if the trap isn't "Surprise, Lot 11 wasn't the thing you wanted?" What if the trap is Winning Lot 11? Like, the only people with enough money to beat the other auction-goers...

Well, Phaestus is smart enough to EXPECT the Imperial Inquisition.
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Old 05-10-2012, 02:45 PM   Top  -  End  -  #163
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Eh ... our mission is not to survive, it's just to track down Phaestus, so if Lot 11 is his doing then we're doing our job.

Nothing sweeter than death in the service of the Emperor, old chap.
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If Jericus was Phaestus Lot 11 would be filled to the brim with det charges.

Phaestus has probably overcomplicated things. Such is the way of people like that.
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Old 05-10-2012, 03:16 PM   Top  -  End  -  #165
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Tychon prefers life in service of the Emperor.

Besides, if we die before reporting in to the Inquisitor, the Emperor will be displeased by our dual failure: Causing the loss of the Inquisition's valuable resources, and causing the loss of the Inquisition's only lead.
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Let's make another one of those Barter rolls!

(1d100)[33]

A note on the mechanics of this: I have approximate ceilings for the NPCs too. When your ceiling is much higher or lower than theirs, the roll doesn't affect who gets the lot - it just gives me a benchmark to see how much you drive up what they have to pay, or vice versa.

The roll decides the winner only when both ceilings are similar numbers.
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Old 05-10-2012, 03:38 PM   Top  -  End  -  #167
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I reckoned it would be something like that, wouldn't much sense if our fancy rhetoric convinced people not to splash out.

Is this all against Tauron's Fellowship, then?
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Yup. He's rolling mighty well. Netted yourself some fancy birds, so you have.

We are now on to Lot 11 though (hope I haven't skipped anything, I think I've been following Destro's instructions properly), so this is the blow-by-blow. Destro, if you can let me know a time you might be online, we should try to do this in one go. Or if you want to deputise Tauron, then replace 'Destro' with 'Thragka' in the above.
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I have an unusually empty day tomorrow, so I'm pretty much free all afternoon (GMT, as you know). But I don't much mind either way, and even if I am on some pointers would be helpful.
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Well, I'll be at work for most of tomorrow, but my work is on a computer. If Tauron is the guy who's going to continue bidding, I'll see if I can fit in some counter-bids.
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"♫♪ Insult, Insult, Insult, Insult the integrity of the ultra-powerful, ultra-rich consortium of criminals. ♪♫"

Do... um... do you want a test to go with that insult?
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I lament the audacity of bodyguards seemingly intent on making their boss look bad.

I additionally lament their accidental success. I don't think Tychon managed to save much face there.
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Perhaps a Lictor? Not that Jer would know.
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Now why did we go and show that we're a bunch of ignorant yokels. We could have just bluffed along, spent a lot of money, bought the secret invisible dangerous thing, accidentally unleashed it on the station, and barely escaped with our lives.
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Old 05-11-2012, 06:08 AM   Top  -  End  -  #175
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Because Red opened his great big 23 INT mouth, and Tychon attempted to hastily cover for him without thoroughly considering the implications of his request. Also, I'm not sure they gave us enough money to buy the invisible dangerous thing.

Tychon doesn't care. He has three very expensive new songbirds to put in his cabin.
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Presumably this is the point where Rhodes steps in and offers 6 million.
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If he does, I'll feel less worried about my decision. I'm not sure whether I have saved us or screwed us or both.
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Just to make it clear, I'm waiting on anyone who might want to position themselves in anyway before the next update. Give me a heads-up OOC if you're fine as you are.
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And to assist with that, here is a map, since this is quite a complex situation to describe in prose.

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Just to be clear, Red isn't saying a bloody thing untl both he an Rhodes are out of the room and he can "Safely" do so.
"Safe" being relative, of course. He isn't dropping the act completely untl he can't hear what's going on in the auction.
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