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Re: A Complete List of 3.5 Base Classes (over 400!), including 3rd party publishers
If we're doing the Class/Book/Tier/Role/Notes tables, I could go through the materials I'm familiar with tomorrow (probably Pact Magic classes, DSP srd, Arcana Evolved, Advanced Player's Manual; maybe a couple Mythic Vistas), but that's about all I can say from firsthand experience/observation (unless we're also going PF, but just seems like too much).
@OP Do you have access to all the materials listed, or is finding someone who does going to be a part of the indexing?
Re: A Complete List of 3.5 Base Classes (over 400!), including 3rd party publishers
Quote:
Originally Posted by eggs
If we're doing the Class/Book/Tier/Role/Notes tables, I could go through the materials I'm familiar with tomorrow (probably Pact Magic classes, DSP srd, Arcana Evolved, Advanced Player's Manual; maybe a couple Mythic Vistas), but that's about all I can say from firsthand experience/observation (unless we're also going PF, but just seems like too much).
@OP Do you have access to all the materials listed, or is finding someone who does going to be a part of the indexing?
I have access to them all with the exception of the Sovereign Stone Campaign Setting, which I believe contains about 6 base classes.
Re: A Complete List of 3.5 Base Classes (over 400!), including 3rd party publishers
Quote:
Originally Posted by Suddo
My little contribution.
I personally would be fine with just Name|Book|Approximate Tier|Approximate Role|Any note on why they are in the tier, what type of system they use (Psionic, Arcane, Divine...).
I personally will only care about things that are Tier 4 and higher and will read over everything I would allow before allowing it, as the DM, so just a quick Tier number would be good enough.
Would you mind removing the quote tags from the new list? If you quote a post with a quote in it, the quotes in the post aren't shown, to avoid a tunnel of quotes, meaning that people can't add on to your new, modified table, so they'd need to add them on manually.
Last edited by Randomguy : 04-07-2012 at 06:17 PM.
Re: A Complete List of 3.5 Base Classes (over 400!), including 3rd party publishers
Okay.
Here's what I have at hand (except Testament, but I'm burning out).
I'm ignoring Paragon classes because they work more like Prestige classes, and rarely have any meaningfully distinguishing characteristics. If anyone feels they should be included, feel free to toss them in.
I included a couple class variants that have huge alterations of play performance (Psychic Ranger, Psionic Soul Weaver, maybe something else) and that have different names (which might *sound* like big changes, until they're examined.
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CLASS
BOOK
TIER
ROLE
NOTES
Devoted Psion
DSP-SRD
2
Caster
Psion ACF - Specialist
Enlightened Monk
DSP-SRD
5
Melee
Monk ACF; doesn't change much
Formbound Spiritist
DSP-SRD
2
Caster
Psionic Druid (Summoning Focus)
Formbound Surger
DSP-SRD
2
Caster
Psionic Druid (Animal Companion+Wild Surge)
Halo Knight
DSP-SRD
5
Melee (Buffer)
Kensai as a base class with minor numeric buffs
Marksman
DSP-SRD
3
Gish (Archery)
Psychic Ranger
DSP-SRD
3
Gish (Skills)
Very low optimization floor
Society Mind
DSP-SRD
2
Caster
Primarily buff/debuffs
Thoughtsinger
DSP-SRD
3
Buffer
Psionic Bard
Worldthought Medic
DSP-SRD
2
Caster
Focused buffing
Augur
DSP-SRD
3
Caster (NPC)
Slow-progress manifesting
Eldritch Weaver
Advanced Players Manual
2
Caster
Alternate Wizard; lacks splat support
Evangelist
Advanced Players Manual
3
Buffer
Divine Bard-type
Scout
Advanced Players Manual
4
Skillmonkey
Alter Self: the base class
Spellmaster
Advanced Players Manual
1
Caster
Blue Mage; skill-based casting
Thanemage
Advanced Players Manual
4
Gish
SotAO-type
Warpriest
Advanced Players Manual
3
Gish (Divine)
Nerfed melee Cleric
Psychic
Advanced Players Manual
4
Skillmonkey
Fighter-style class design for APM's alternate psionic system
Akashic
Arcana Evolved
5
Skillmonkey
Knowledge Emphasis
Champion
Arcana Evolved
5
Melee
Greenbound
Arcana Evolved
2
Caster
Healing Focus
Mage Blade
Arcana Evolved
3
Gish
Bog-standard gish
Magister
Arcana Evolved
2
Caster
Wizard analog; limited spell list
Oathsworn
Arcana Evolved
5
Melee
Monk analog; ritual progression, but too late
Ritual Warrior
Arcana Evolved
4
Melee
ToB-type with more limited options
Runethane
Arcana Evolved
2
Caster
Bog-standard AE caster, but with traps
Totem Warrior
Arcana Evolved
4
Melee
Animal Lord as a base class
Unfettered
Arcana Evolved
5
Melee
Another crappy Swashbuckler
Warmain
Arcana Evolved
6
Melee
Fighter, with preselected crappy feats
Witch
Arcana Evolved
3
Caster
Strongly encourages gishing
Runeblade
Experimental Might
3
Melee
More of a Summoner in practice
Empyrean Monk
Secrets of Pact Magic
3
Melee
Monk/Binder-type
Foe Hunter
Secrets of Pact Magic
3
Skillmonkey
Ranger/Assassin/Binder-type
Occult Priest
Secrets of Pact Magic
2
Caster
Divine Crusader/Binder-type
Pact Warrior
Secrets of Pact Magic
3
Melee
Slow bind progression
Soul Weaver
Secrets of Pact Magic
1
Caster
Wizard/Binder; turns spells into Su abilities
Psionic Soul Weaver
Secrets of Pact Magic
2
Caster
Psion/Binder; limited powers known
Spirit Binder
Secrets of Pact Magic
2
Caster
ToM Binder-analog
Unbound Witch
Secrets of Pact Magic
2
Caster
Wilder/Geomancer/Binder-type
Warbinder
Secrets of Pact Magic
3
Buffer
Shares/transfers Granted abilities among allies
Exorcist
Villains of Pact Magic
3
Caster
Beguiler-styled casting from Exorcism-themed list (w/ domains)
Muse
Villains of Pact Magic
2
Caster
Sorcerer/Binder; severely limited spell access; lots of randomness
Ravaged Soul
Villains of Pact Magic
3
Melee
Angsty Doctor Who fanfic: the base class
Templar
Villains of Pact Magic
3
Melee
SLAs make Shadowcaster look like marathon runner
Gladiator
Eternal Rome (MV)
5
Melee
Charioteer
Trojan War (MV)
6
Melee
Dedicated Warrior
Trojan War (MV)
6
Melee
Magician
Trojan War (MV)
2
Caster
core wizard with a hacked spell list
Priest
Trojan War (MV)
2
Caster
skill-based spell failure, way too many high-level slots
Godi
Frost & Fur
2
Caster
Tweaked Cleric
Vitki
Frost & Fur
3
Buffer
Crummy War Weaver in a can
Voela
Frost & Fur
3
Caster
Good effects, LOOONG casting time; situationally spans T2 to T5
Angakoq
Frost & Fur
2
Caster
Ghostish druid
Cossack
Frost & Fur
6
Melee
Koldun
Frost & Fur
2
Caster
Limited spell list, but Polymorph/Planar Binding emphases
Volkov
Frost & Fur
2
Caster
Cleric/Druid-type
Courtier
Rokugan CS
5
Skillmonkey
Built for Diplomancy w/ Built-in Leadership
Ninja
Rokugan CS
5
Melee
Sneak Attack fighter with numeric boosts (speed, init)
Re: A Complete List of 3.5 Base Classes (over 400!), including 3rd party publishers
Note that there's also an Exorcist: Power Class which is, as far as I can tell, a cleric which gets slightly fewer spells but has bonus turn attempts and nifty things it can do with those turn attempts.
Re: A Complete List of 3.5 Base Classes (over 400!), including 3rd party publishers
Quote:
Originally Posted by shadow_archmagi
Note that there's also an Exorcist: Power Class which is, as far as I can tell, a cleric which gets slightly fewer spells but has bonus turn attempts and nifty things it can do with those turn attempts.
The exorcist is included on the 1st page, which is the complete list. The one above still leaves out quite a bit.
Re: A Complete List of 3.5 Base Classes (over 400!), including 3rd party publishers
I browsed a couple other books to get through some more of the bigger chunks. I didn't realize how many Paladin-clones Arcanis had. A couple look kind of fun, though (Twilight Warrior especially)
Re: A Complete List of 3.5 Base Classes (over 400!), including 3rd party publishers
I personally really like Arcanis' Paladin clones. They're relatively high powered for melee and quite flavorful. Arcanis has a couple other classes from Campaign supplements, which I put below.
Spoiler
CLASS
BOOK
TIER
ROLE
NOTES
Occisor
Arcanis - Psionics Unbound
4
Gish/Skillmonkey
A rogue-esque soulknife variant that doesn't utterly suck.
Rhi'zen
Arcanis - Psionics Unbound
3
Psionics/Melee
Monk flavored Psychic Warrior.
Swamp Lord of Pit Sseth
Arcanis - Psionics Unbound
1
Spellcaster/Manifester
Weird class that can cast and manifest. Only gets up to 7th level spells........and powers.
Mist Wanderer
Arcanis-Psionics Unbound
3
Manifester/Skillmonkey
A rogue flavored manifester with Psionic Warrior manifesting progression.
Conflagration Knight
Arcanis-Theocracy of Canceri
4
Melee
A paladin with fire.
Nerothian Reaper
Arcanis-Theocracy of Canceri
3
Melee
A necromantic paladin with animating abilities.
Sarishan Knife
Arcanis-Theocracy of Canceri
4
Melee/Sneak
An assassin class with Ranger spellcasting progression.
Bam. Also, I'm getting Sovereign Stone in a week or so (ordered it via Amazon) which should complete the initial list of base classes.
Re: A Complete List of 3.5 Base Classes (over 400!), including 3rd party publishers
This is getting me to look at a lot of classes I wouldn't otherwise. The Yogi and the Swamplord are pretty cool.
And looking over the Blood Druid's summoning, that is crazy.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vilpich
Put the table on the 1st page also. Anyone willing to do the Power Classes?
Sure! I was just working on those.
Also Darkness & Dread's monster-fodder classes:
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CLASS
BOOK
TIER
ROLE
NOTES
Assassin
Power Classes: Assassin
5
Melee
Sneak attack with double damage after study
Gladiator
Power Classes: Gladiator
6
Melee
Warrior class with ability to perform in combat
Exorcist
Power Classes: Exorcist
1
Caster
Cleric, plus class features, including lots of Turning
Noble
Power Classes: Noble
5
Skillmonkey
Diplomancer with built-in Leadership
Knight
Power Classes: Knight
6
Melee
Chronically ripped off & bossed around as class features?
Artificer
Power Classes: Artificer
2
Caster
Sorcerer with dirt-cheap Golems; UMD abilities, no UMD skill (???)
Hedge Wizard
Power Classes: Hedge Wizard
2
Caster
Slow-advancement Wizard gish
Explorer
Power Classes: Explorer
6
Melee
Having a map: the base class
Pirate
Power Classes: Pirate
5
Melee
Knowledge monkey, eventually gets Water domain spells as Ex ability
Alchemist
Power Classes: Alchemist
2
Caster
Item Creation, no-save death poison and Polymorph Any Object at low levels
Cabalist
Power Classes: Cabalist
1
Caster
Skill-based casting without spell level caps
Fool
Power Classes: Fool
5
Skillmonkey
Mostly dead levels, compelling dip - mass Antagonise and huge Thrown weapon volley.
Acolyte
Darkness & Dread
3
Caster
Defensive buffer; 10-level class
Alchemist
Darkness & Dread
3
Caster
Battlefield Control; 10-level class
Antiquarian
Darkness & Dread
5
Skillmonkey
Minor UMD abilities; 5-level class
Apprentice
Darkness & Dread
2
Caster
Wizard-type with limited list, UMD; 10-level class
Artisan
Darkness & Dread
6
Skillmonkey
Somewhat variable skill list; 5-level class
Beggar
Darkness & Dread
6
Skillmonkey
Crappy class, decent skills; 5-level class
Engineer
Darkness & Dread
6
Cannonfodder
Focused on smashing objects; 5-level class
Gambler
Darkness & Dread
5
Skillmonkey
Metagamey dice manipulation; 5-level class
Grave Robber
Darkness & Dread
6
Cannonfodder
Ain't afraid of no ghosts; 5-level class
Grifter
Darkness & Dread
5
Skillmonkey
Diplomancy, Force self-destructive actions; 5-level class
Herbalist
Darkness & Dread
3
Caster
Buffer/healer; 10-level class
Kennelmaster
Darkness & Dread
6
Cannonfodder
Handle animal bonuses; 5-level class
Medium
Darkness & Dread
5
Skillmonkey
Monster-detection+UMD; 5-level class
Merchant
Darkness & Dread
6
Skillmonkey
Treats markets as twice as wealthy; 5-level class
Minstrel
Darkness & Dread
6
Skillmonkey
Bard-type, toned down; 5-level class
Physician
Darkness & Dread
6
Healer
Wisdom-based Lay on Hands x2; 10-level class
Pit Fighter
Darkness & Dread
6
Melee
Barbarian/Rogue, toned way down; 5-level class
Prospector
Darkness & Dread
5
Skillmonkey
Trap specialist, reroll features; 5-level class
Sage
Darkness & Dread
5
Skillmonkey
Variable skill list, big knowledge bonuses; 5-level class
Sewerjack
Darkness & Dread
5
Melee
Tough defenses, little else; 5-level class
Thief
Darkness & Dread
5
Skillmonkey
Sneak attack, decent skills; 5-level class
Tracker
Darkness & Dread
5
Skillmonkey
Utility feats, ranged sneak attack; 10-level class
Veteran
Darkness & Dread
5
Melee
Fighter, minus hald a feat; 10-level class
Worker
Darkness & Dread
6
Cannonfodder
Variable skill list, physical ability increases; 5-level class
After leafing though Dragonmech and Chaos Mage, I think I'm going to avoid the weird systems until I have a chance to play with them. I'll look at the Mythic Vistas next.
Re: A Complete List of 3.5 Base Classes (over 400!), including 3rd party publishers
Most mythic vistas are done, except Medieval Player's Handbook and (should we include this?) Red Star. My next step is going to be to add the Legends & Lairs "Path of X" supplements, the WoW Campaign Setting for d20, and do Nyambe - African Adventures' alternative classes.
As for the yogi, I've actually played one - a yaksha elf yogi 3. It got slaughtered when the party attacked an aurak draconian way earlier when they were supposed to (they tried to immobilize it with web and then set the web on fire...but the aurak could teleport. 4 out of 6 of the players died, and that's because I was nice and didn't use my breath weapon at the end) but pre-death it was a very fun class to play.
EDIT: I can do Dragonmech. I've run two separate campaigns with it actually, and Chaos Mage is pretty easy: straight up Tier 1. It's ridiculously powerful.
Re: A Complete List of 3.5 Base Classes (over 400!), including 3rd party publishers
There's something weird going on with the tables' sort function. It looks like it's clustering our entries separately, probably due to spacing. Not anything to worry about now, but once this is done, it'd be really handy to be able to sort by Role and Tier.
Anyway, here are the MVs, before I have to step out into anything new:
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CLASS
BOOK
TIER
ROLE
NOTES
Cunning Man
Mythic Vistas: Midieval Player's Manual
4
Crafter
Numeric buffing, social skills, UMD
Natural Magician
Mythic Vistas: Midieval Player's Manual
2
Caster
Learn any Arcane spells; severely limited spell frequency
Theurge
Mythic Vistas: Midieval Player's Manual
2
Caster
Learn spells from any list, cast at low CL/DC
Priest
Mythic Vistas: Midieval Player's Manual
1
Caster
Slightly nerfed Cleric; can compel sinners to do penance
Saint
Mythic Vistas: Midieval Player's Manual
4
Caster
Very specific healing, curses, divinations and misc. miracles
Canonist
Mythic Vistas: Midieval Player's Manual
4
Skillmonkey
Diplomancer with new ways to break social skills
Scholar
Mythic Vistas: Midieval Player's Manual
6
Skillmonkey
Specialist in the Philosphical Dispute subsystem (seriously)
Artist
Mythic Vistas: Midieval Player's Manual
6
Skillmonkey
Specialist in the Art subsustem
Buccaneer
Mythic Vistas: Skull & Bones
6
Melee
Weak sniper with melee area fear attack at level 11
Sea Dog
Mythic Vistas: Skull & Bones
6
Melee
Gets pretty good at Profession (Sailor)
Shantyman
Mythic Vistas: Skull & Bones
5
Buffer
Gets Bard's music, not much else
Bokor
Mythic Vistas: Skull & Bones
3
Caster
Voodoo Sorcerer-types; damaged by casting; highly limited high-level slots
Hougan
Mythic Vistas: Skull & Bones
3
Caster
Voodoo Cleric-types; High level spells (7+) may require quests
Noble
Mythic Vistas: SpirosBlaak
5
Skillmonkey
Social character with Leadership (not factored in tier)
Pirate
Mythic Vistas: SpirosBlaak
4
Melee
Panic with Demoralize, Charisma to AC; otherwise a crummy fighter rehash
Prophet
Mythic Vistas: SpirosBlaak
2
Caster
Spontaneous cleric-type
Technologist
Mythic Vistas: SpirosBlaak
3
Crafter
Build items with low-level spell effects
Adept
Masque of the Red Death
2
Caster
Wizard-type with skill-based failure mechanic, long casting time, lots of skill points
Charlatan
Masque of the Red Death
3
Caster
Bard-style casting with skill-based failure mechanic, long casting time
Metaphysician
Masque of the Red Death
2
Caster
Wizard-type with skill-based failure mechanic, obnoxiously long casting time, lots of skill points
Occultist
Masque of the Red Death
2
Caster
Wizard-type with skill-based failure mechanic, long casting time
Athlete
Masque of the Red Death
6
Melee
Fighter-type with a crummier feat list
Explorer/Scout
Masque of the Red Death
5
Melee
Fighter-type with Ranger skills and class features available
Shootist
Masque of the Red Death
5
Melee
Fighter-type with preselected feats (workable but bizarre advancements)
Soldier
Masque of the Red Death
5
Melee
Core fighter with extra skills
Intellectual
Masque of the Red Death
6
Skillmonkey
Lots of Skill Focus: Knowledge; not a lot else.
Parson
Masque of the Red Death
6
Cannonfodder
Class features like the cleric's, without the spells (the -4 penalty adds insult to injury)
Physician
Masque of the Red Death
6
Skillmonkey
10+Int skill points look interesting. Rigid skill lists and no class features do not. (And a Code of Conduct! :p)
Scholar/Scientist
Masque of the Red Death
6
Skillmonkey
10+Int skill points with no class features and 5 Knowledges as class skills
Mystic
Masque of the Red Death
2
Caster
Cleric-type with a skill-based failure mechanic, long casting time
Medium
Masque of the Red Death
2
Caster
Cleric-type with a skill-based failure mechanic, long casting time, talks to ghosts
Shaman
Masque of the Red Death
2
Caster
Cleric-type with a skill-based failure mechanic, long casting time, Druid's minor class features
Spiritualist
Masque of the Red Death
2
Caster
Cleric-type with a skill-based failure mechanic, obnoxiously long casting time
Sleuth
Masque of the Red Death
6
Skillmonkey
Detection-based skills, Evasion as single notable class feature
Criminal
Masque of the Red Death
5
Skillmonkey
Trapfinding, Evasion and slow sneak attack progression
Dandy
Masque of the Red Death
6
Skillmonkey
10+Int skill points, with a monthly diplomacy bonus.
Journalist
Masque of the Red Death
6
Skillmonkey
The skill list you'd expect, and a couple bonuses to those checks.
Tradesman
Masque of the Red Death
6
Skillmonkey
Lots of bonuses to Profession and Craft
Mechanic
Masque of the Red Death
6
Skillmonkey
A couple bonuses to Craft
Performer
Masque of the Red Death
5
Skillmonkey
Bardic Music
Assassin
Thieves' World
5
Melee
Sneak with bonus prereq feats and sneak attack
Godsworn
Thieves' World
3
Melee
Wisdom-synergy like mad. 9th level casting from limited list, long casting times
Initiate
Thieves' World
3
Gish
Very limited spontaneous(ish) spells, but wide list choice, 6+Int skills
Mage
Thieves' World
2
Caster
Intelligence-based Spontaneous caster
Noble
Thieves' World
5
Skillmonkey
Diplomacy focus, minor buffs/debuffs, Leadership (not factored in Tier)
Priest
Thieves' World
2
Caster
Spontaneous(ish) Cleric
Ranger
Thieves' World
5
Skillmonkey
No spells, more combat styles
Savant
Thieves' World
6
Skillmonkey
Various minor skill bonuses, Skill Mastery at ECL 2
Survivor
Thieves' World
6
Melee
Either the offensive or defensive Monk traits, and then not all
Witch
Thieves' World
2
Caster
Spontaneous Charisma-based caster; Druid/Sorcerer-like spell list
Academician
Mythic Vistas: Black Company
5
Skillmonkey
Gradually customizable skill list, lots of skill bonuses
Berserker
Mythic Vistas: Black Company
4
Melee
Barbarian with Trapsense swapped for Cleave and Intimidate features
Jack-of-All-Trades
Mythic Vistas: Black Company
4
Skillmonkey
Customizable skill list, lots of bonus feats, including temporary feat slots
Noble
Mythic Vistas: Black Company
5
Skillmonkey
Diplomacy focus, minor buffs, Leadership (not factored in Tier)
Scout
Mythic Vistas: Black Company
5
Skillmonkey
Sniping focus; fighter feats, sudden strike
Thief
Mythic Vistas: Black Company
5
Skillmonkey
Rogue, minus UMD and ACFs
Weapon Master
Mythic Vistas: Black Company
5
Melee
Monk-type abilities, bigger numbers, action point-based movement
Zealot
Mythic Vistas: Black Company
5
Melee
The most times Toughness ever appeared in a base class, but a nice frenzy
I'm starting to wonder if there are any D&D writers who didn't sit down and say "let's write a class about social skills and give it a bunch of rubbish powers, but tag Leadership on, just to play it safe."
EDIT:
Missed Black Company. I'll get that, Thieves World and Masque of the Red Death next.
EDIT2:
Added to this post's chart. And seriously. Two more Diplomacy+Leadershippers.
Re: A Complete List of 3.5 Base Classes (over 400!), including 3rd party publishers
Quote:
Originally Posted by eggs
I'm starting to wonder if there are any D&D writers who didn't sit down and say "let's write a class about social skills and give it a bunch of rubbish powers, but tag Leadership on, just to play it safe."
EDIT:
Missed Black Company. I'll get that, Thieves World and Masque of the Red Death next.
EDIT2:
Added to this post's chart. And seriously. Two more Diplomacy+Leadershippers.
Yeah...whenever I got to one of those I called it a "Social/skillmonkey" role. I just...can't imagine why anyone thought a class thats main feature was leadership would help anyone...
In other news, I ran into a problem while Tiering the mech pilot. As a class by itself the mech pilot has next to no abilities...except for when he's in a mech, at which point he's like upper Tier 2. I think I'm going to go through and find WBL and an average mech that corresponds to that wealth, and assume that's the mech the mech pilot has....
EDIT: Not sure why the tables aren't letting us reorganize
EDIT #2: Put the above list onto the main table. Still need to do Warcraft, Thieve's World, Dragonstar, Dragonmech, Path of X, some Encyclopaedia Arcane classes, and Avalance Press ()...should Iron Heroes be included?
EDIT #3: put in some minor classes from random supplements. Discovered that the complete guide to wererats has some base classes....
Re: A Complete List of 3.5 Base Classes (over 400!), including 3rd party publishers
Tossing in a couple more.
Spoiler
CLASS
BOOK
TIER
ROLE
NOTES
Gamba Fighter
Nyambe: African Adventures
5
Melee
Fighter with half feats, Barbarian traits like speed, skills, DR
Mchawi Wizard
Nyambe: African Adventures
1
Caster
Wizard spell list, Necromancy specialization, Reincarnates after dying
Nanala Rogue
Nyambe: African Adventures
4
Skillmonkey
Rogue with Bonus feats, flexibly-ordered class features
N'anga Cleric
Nyambe: African Adventures
1
Caster
Influenced by spirit after spellcasting (as Binder's RP), choose between Druid/Cleric spells, choose between shapeshifting, turning and plant immunities
Sei Sorcerer
Nyambe: African Adventures
2
Caster
Sorcerer casting, a couple spells-known taxes, gain dragon-modeled abilities (DCs need fixing)
Animal Lord
Sorcery & Steam
4
Melee
Barbarian-type with skill-based Rage-type. Can get Pounce or Trip (as wolf) at level 1
Artificer
Sorcery & Steam
5
Skillmonkey
Builds inexpensive nonmagical items, large bonuses to disable device
Musketeer
Sorcery & Steam
5
Melee
Feats from a relevant list, mobility skills
Thaumaturgist
Book of Fiends
1
Caster
Cleric casting with familiar, daily free action summons and random deformations
Nomad
Nile Empire
6
Melee
Gain AC and Attack bonuses with each attack per round
Scribe
Nile Empire
6
Skillmonkey
Has Contacts, a weird mix of unarmed combat feats and a framework that can't use them
Trader
Nile Empire
6
Skillmonkey
Bonus skill points as a class feature; still comes up shy of 6+Int skill classes
Arcane Mekanic
Iron Kingdoms
3
Crafter
Builds/uses steampunk components of IK, Bard-rate prepared spells from Wizard list
Bodger
Iron Kingdoms
5
Skillmonkey
Craft-focus; all about quick-and-dirty toolmaking and repairs
Fell Caller
Iron Kingdoms
4
Buffer
Bardic Music, plus a variety of offensive mind-effects (Area fear and confusion, blasting)
Gun Mage
Iron Kingdoms
3
Gish
Delivers spells with bullets, built-in Arcane Strike
I think Iron Kingdoms is at least as good a fit as a bunch of things on the list - it doesn't even change the casting mechanics in ways like Arcana Evolved or Thieves' World. I only know the core book classes, though. I tossed those in, and will see if I can track down any more (if there are any more) later on.
Re: A Complete List of 3.5 Base Classes (over 400!), including 3rd party publishers
There are Magic of Arcanis's base classes.
AEG's Magic has a bunch of extra mages. Most are essentially Sorcerer/Wizard variants, but there are some neat things like a Monk-type with Strength-based spells.
I can get both of those. I'm starting to dig this Arcanis setting (never noticed it before).
Re: A Complete List of 3.5 Base Classes (over 400!), including 3rd party publishers
Quote:
Originally Posted by eggs
There are Magic of Arcanis's base classes.
AEG's Magic has a bunch of extra mages. Most are essentially Sorcerer/Wizard variants, but there are some neat things like a Monk-type with Strength-based spells.
I can get both of those. I'm starting to dig this Arcanis setting (never noticed it before).
Yeah..i hadn't looked at it much before but it's pretty sick. And I have big plans for those holy warrior guys
Re: A Complete List of 3.5 Base Classes (over 400!), including 3rd party publishers
If we're going comprehensive, I know Lion's Den Press has a few not listed here:
Psionic Knight, Cavalier, Assassin, Fiendblade, Witch and Priest of the Celestial Spheres. I've only read the last one.
Spoiler
CLASS
SOURCE
TIER
ROLE
NOTES
Altherian Artificer
Magic of Arcanis
3
Skillmonkey
Trap/breaking-stuff specialist; robot companion; useful Item creation at levels 13+; Wizard-light spell list at Bard rate
Hedge Mage
Magic of Arcanis
2
Caster
Spontaneous Wisdom casting counts as Arcane & Divine
Shaman
Magic of Arcanis
2
Caster
Spontaneous Divine caster manipulates spirits; spell list is mix of Cleric/Druid
Spellblade
Magic of Arcanis
4
Gish
Standard, if uninspired, gish. 3/4 BA and caps at 4th level spells at level 10.
Suromar
Magic of Arcanis
3
Gish
Psion-hunter with Bard spell progression. Abilities to block mental effects, deny psionic focus, Improved Evasion for Will, act before Initiative as a capstone
Warder
Magic of Arcanis
3
Gish
Ranger-like gish; Damage/skill bonuses in favored terrain and Ranger-like bonus feats, Bard-rate casting from defensive Druid/Sorcerer mashup spell list
Chronomancer
Magic (AEG)
1
Caster
Wizard with additional time-themed spells, rerolls
Elemental Adept
Magic (AEG)
1
Caster
Wizard with growing elemental companion and a minor elementally-themed power
Totemist
Magic (AEG)
2
Caster
Eccentric spontaneous divine caster with interesting spell list, craft totems for minor metamagic-like effects
Flesh Mage
Magic (AEG)
2
Caster
Spontaneous buffer/debuffer ignores SR, Dispels
Mage Smith
Magic (AEG)
2
Caster
Constitution-based sorcerer with crafting emphasis, make weapons that deal alternate damage types, Cleric chassis
Arcane Monk
Magic (AEG)
3
Gish
Unarmed combat with Strength-based casting from a solid gish list
Adept of the Awakened Eye
Magic (AEG)
2
Caster
Madness-themed spontaneous caster ignores SR, Dispels; buff/mass debuff/battlefield control spell list, can burn spell slots/add casting time to ramp up caster level
Number Magician
Magic (AEG)
1
Caster
Wizard with extra metamagic, metamagic cost reducers for specified targets, treat dice rolls as natural 20s
Runewright
Magic (AEG)
2
Caster
Arcane-like spontaneous Wisdom caster, can add scroll-like enhancements to items/weapons that activate on use; spell list like Wizard, minus the summons/morphs
Shadow Mage
Magic (AEG)
2
Caster
Arcane-like spontaneous Wisdom caster, Spell failure chance in light, spell list with shadow and manipulation themes (which apparently include Divine Favor/Power)
Tinker
Magic (AEG)
2
Caster
Crafter with trapfinding makes inexpensive Robots, prepared spells (limited but versatile selection from Wizard list)
Thaumaturge
Magic (AEG)
1
Caster
Wizard with access to ALL spells, gains domains, cannot use metamagic
Witch
Magic (AEG)
1
Caster
Spell-point caster selects spells known from Sorcerer/Druid lists, access to free-form impromptu spell effects
Holy Warrior
Book of the Righteous
5
Melee
3.0 Paladin with a few extra ability options, but its own highly limited spell list
Priest of the Celestial Spheres
Classes of Legend: Priest of the Celestial Spheres
2
Caster
AD&D-styled Divine Caster whose spells are determined by Sphere selection (more elaborate domain-style thematic groups)
Arcane Healer
Penumbra: Occult Lore
5
Healer
NPC class prepares healing spells/defensive buffs very slowly
Computer
Penumbra: Occult Lore
5
Caster
NPC class with UMD, useful skills, Divination SLAs available a couple levels early
Astrologer
Penumbra: Occult Lore
1
Caster
Prepared caster with modified Wizard list (Improved Conjuration, nerfed Evocation and Illusion); invoking spells needs to be altered to take the spells' normal casting times
Elementalist
Penumbra: Occult Lore
2
Caster
Elemental Wizard, become Elemental, cast from Elementally-themed spell list
Gleaner
Penumbra: Occult Lore
5
Caster
Trap spirits of dead characters in items; eventually gain ability to emulate trapped souls' abilities (skills, base attack), spam low-level spell effects
Sympathetic Caster
Penumbra: Occult Lore
1
Caster
Freeform Spell-point casting, within specified domains (eg. "Animals" or "Transformation")
It's a shame most of Magic is horribly imbalanced; the Arcane Monk and Runewright are pretty cool.
Re: A Complete List of 3.5 Base Classes (over 400!), including 3rd party publishers
Quote:
Originally Posted by eggs
If we're going comprehensive, I know Lion's Den Press has a few not listed here:
Psionic Knight, Cavalier, Assassin, Fiendblade, Witch and Priest of the Celestial Spheres. I've only read the last one.
Spoiler
CLASS
SOURCE
TIER
ROLE
NOTES
Altherian Artificer
Magic of Arcanis
3
Skillmonkey
Trap/breaking-stuff specialist; robot companion; useful Item creation at levels 13+; Wizard-light spell list at Bard rate
Hedge Mage
Magic of Arcanis
2
Caster
Spontaneous Wisdom casting counts as Arcane & Divine
Shaman
Magic of Arcanis
2
Caster
Spontaneous Divine caster manipulates spirits; spell list is mix of Cleric/Druid
Spellblade
Magic of Arcanis
4
Gish
Standard, if uninspired, gish. 3/4 BA and caps at 4th level spells at level 10.
Suromar
Magic of Arcanis
3
Gish
Psion-hunter with Bard spell progression. Abilities to block mental effects, deny psionic focus, Improved Evasion for Will, act before Initiative as a capstone
Warder
Magic of Arcanis
3
Gish
Ranger-like gish; Damage/skill bonuses in favored terrain and Ranger-like bonus feats, Bard-rate casting from defense-based Druid/Sorcerer mashup list
Chronomancer
Magic (AEG)
1
Caster
Wizard with additional time-themed spells, rerolls
Elemental Adept
Magic (AEG)
1
Caster
Wizard with growing elemental companion and a minor elementally-themed power
Totemist
Magic (AEG)
2
Caster
Eccentric spontaneous divine caster with interesting spell list, craft totems for minor metamagic-like effects
Flesh Mage
Magic (AEG)
2
Caster
Spontaneous buffer/debuffer ignores SR, Dispels
Mage Smith
Magic (AEG)
2
Caster
Constitution-based sorcerer with crafting emphasis, make weapons that deal alternate damage types, Cleric chassis
Arcane Monk
Magic (AEG)
3
Gish
Unarmed combat with Strength-based casting from a solid gish list
Adept of the Awakened Eye
Magic (AEG)
2
Caster
Mad spontaneous caster ignores SR, Dispels; buff/mass debuff/battlefield control spell list, can burn spell slots/add casting time to ramp up caster level
Number Magician
Magic (AEG)
1
Caster
Wizard with extra metamagic, metamagic cost reducers for specified targets, treat dice rolls as natural 20s
Runewright
Magic (AEG)
2
Caster
Arcane-like spontaneous Wisdom caster, can add scroll-like enhancements to items/weapons that activate on use; spell list like Wizard, minus summons/morphs
Shadow Mage
Magic (AEG)
2
Caster
Arcane-like spontaneous Wisdom caster, Spell failure chance in light, spell list with shadow and manipulation themes (and Divine Favor/Power, apparently)
Tinker
Magic (AEG)
2
Caster
Crafter with trapfinding makes inexpensive Robots, prepared spells (limited but versatile selection from Wizard list)
Thaumaturge
Magic (AEG)
1
Caster
Wizard with access to all spells, gains domains, cannot use metamagic
Witch
Magic (AEG)
1
Caster
Spell-point caster selects spells known from Sorcerer/Druid lists, access to "freeform" impromptu spell effects
Holy Warrior
Book of the Righteous
5
Melee
3.0 Paladin with a few extra ability options, but its own highly limited spell list
Priest of the Celestial Spheres
Classes of Legend: Priest of the Celestial Spheres
2
Caster
AD&D-styled Divine Caster whose spells are determined by Sphere selection (more elaborate domain-style thematic groups)
Arcane Healer
Penumbra: Occult Lore
5
Healer
NPC class prepares healing spells/defensive buffs very slowly
Computer
Penumbra: Occult Lore
5
Caster
NPC class with UMD, useful skills, Divination SLAs available a couple levels early
Astrologer
Penumbra: Occult Lore
1
Caster
Prepared caster with modified Wizard list (Improved Conjuration, nerfed Evocation and Illusion); invoking spells needs to be altered to take the spells' normal casting times
Elementalist
Penumbra: Occult Lore
2
Caster
Elemental Wizard, become Elemental, cast from Elementally-themed spell list
Gleaner
Penumbra: Occult Lore
5
Caster
Trap spirits of dead characters in items; eventually gain ability to emulate trapped souls' abilities (skills, base attack), spam low-level spell effects
Sympathetic Caster
Penumbra: Occult Lore
1
Caster
Freeform Spell-point casting, within specified domains (eg. "Animals" or "Transformation")
It's a shame most of Magic is horribly imbalanced; the Arcane Monk and Runewright are pretty cool.
I like the Flesh Mage too as a sort of buffer wizard, and the arcane monk is cool especially since it's actually balanced.
I found a few articles on the Lion's Den Press classes but no downloads
...not that I would ever use 4shared to download books because that would be unethical.
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Re: A Complete List of 3.5 Base Classes (over 400!), including 3rd party publishers
A couple look kind of fun, though (Twilight Warrior especially)
)...should Iron Heroes be included?
