Apparently Yuki is, amongst other things, rather loud.
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Let's just say I'd have to disagree with you on that last one, given the usual reasons that straight men are "scared" of LGBT individuals.
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If he's so undeveloped as to be that way about LGBT issues, then it's strange that he doesn't hold some of the bundled up chauvinist views about a woman's body, at least to, y'know, discomfit or dirtiness or the like.
Not to swirl into IRL politics, but... I don't agree.
You don't have to be a homophobe, or against gay rights to be uncomfortable watching two gay men have sex.
Also... what? Are you seriously saying that a man that is uncomfortable around gay men automatically is a chauvinist? Does. Not. Compute.
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So, to re-inject some forgotten continuity that is clouding the discussion:
1. Dillon's patented Swirly-Go-Round is a kissing technique that coincidentally is magically good when applied "down there". Don't ask how, don't ask why; it is entirely powered by potent plot magic, and is just that great. Even in-universe, it defies explanation. Amber, a professional porn star, developed an addiction to the thing; and she, along with Kiley, have both declared it was the best orgasm they ever had.
4. Gary is not uncomfortable around homosexuals or transsexuals specifically. As a very frustrated virgin (until recently), he's just uncomfortable around any exhibition of sexuality. He tolerated Dillon sleeping in his bed, in full knowledge that Dillon is gay and crushing on him; despite not requiting the sentiment. Would you share a bed with a friend whose sex is incompatibly with your own alignment, who is quite pushy, and who has a very public crush on you? I don't think so. The only time he met a transsexual, it was when he barged in on Matt and Senna in the act (a rule of Mà3 is that anytime you go and visit or phone somebody, you'll catch them in the act; only exceptions so far being Gary, Junghan, and Kiley). Remember that Gary used to faint at the direct sight of nudity.
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Let's just say I'd have to disagree with you on that last one, given the usual reasons that straight men are "scared" of LGBT individuals.
If he's so undeveloped as to be that way about LGBT issues, then it's strange that he doesn't hold some of the bundled up chauvinist views about a woman's body, at least to, y'know, discomfit or dirtiness or the like.
I'm sorry but what? I've never heard of any correlation between LGBT issues and chauvinism. Except if one takes the "oldfashioned" angle. Also, I don't think chauvinism is closely related to any fear of female bodies... Hey, objectifying women (in a sexual way) is a big part of chauvinism (imo) and that requires an attraction to women. So how would a chauvinist be scared of women?
Also, even men (or people in general) who dislike LGBTs are rarely anywhere near scared, unless we are talking religious "they are the spawn of Satan, who knows what they might do to me" scared. Usually its more... disgust because they don't like it. Like, absolutely don't like it. (Or they have the same issues and don't dare admitting it)
Sorry, too much rambling. New comic. Sonya is poison. Delicious, sexy poison. But Apparently Yuki saves Zii's,,, honor. Or whatever. Faithfulness? Relationship maybe even?
If he's so undeveloped as to be that way about LGBT issues, then it's strange that he doesn't hold some of the bundled up chauvinist views about a woman's body, at least to, y'know, discomfit or dirtiness or the like.
... But it has NOTHING to do with the LGBT community! He is straight, she is a girl, and they are in a romantic relationship. That is quite simply all there is to it. She's been primarily lesbian in the past yes, but that has nothing to do with him, so it doesn't matter to him because she is obviously dating him now, and her past is of no concern to him because he was not involved at the time.
Just because i'm drinking juice out of a can doesn't mean I’m going to be fretting about the pop community just because i'm drinking from a container that was originally invented by them.
Not to swirl into IRL politics, but... I don't agree.
You don't have to be a homophobe, or against gay rights to be uncomfortable watching two gay men have sex.
More his reaction to it after the immediate fact and just not spotting it despite them not really trying to hide it, unless I'm grossly misremembering continuity.
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Also... what? Are you seriously saying that a man that is uncomfortable around gay men automatically is a chauvinist? Does. Not. Compute.
No, I'm saying that he's not particularly shown himself to be very progressive if he's that blind to reality going on around him. Which you can pick apart in a different way, but not quite that way.
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I'm sorry but what? I've never heard of any correlation between LGBT issues and chauvinism. Except if one takes the "oldfashioned" angle. Also, I don't think chauvinism is closely related to any fear of female bodies... Hey, objectifying women (in a sexual way) is a big part of chauvinism (imo) and that requires an attraction to women. So how would a chauvinist be scared of women?
Not scared, look down upon, but that's tangential anyway.
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Also, even men (or people in general) who dislike LGBTs are rarely anywhere near scared, unless we are talking religious "they are the spawn of Satan, who knows what they might do to me" scared. Usually its more... disgust because they don't like it. Like, absolutely don't like it. (Or they have the same issues and don't dare admitting it)
Hence why I used quotation marks and wasn't the person who brought up the point. If you're going to get on me for that single word, then you might want to pay some attention to the post I was responding to and the ideas it contained.
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No, I'm saying that he's not particularly shown himself to be very progressive if he's that blind to reality going on around him. Which you can pick apart in a different way, but not quite that way.
You can still be progressive while still being squicked out/not understanding things, heck i personally am a little squicked out at the sight of two guys kissing, and i don't understand Trans* people at all or why some of them would put themselves though so much surgery in an attempt to deify their genetics. But this doesn't mean i don't respect their own lifestyles and choices, it's who they are and i have no place in saying they can't do it. And again, me having these feelings towards Gays and Trans* people in no way makes me see women as nothing but objects who stay in the kitchen, because the two aren't related. Even if Gary isn't progressive towards Gays and Trans* people doesn't mean he's not progressive towards women, the two simply aren't connected enough if at all for them to be treated as one and the same, saying otherwise is like saying you can't like Mcdonalds fries when you don't like Mcdonalds hamburgers, they aren't the same thing, so having a different opinion on one of them in no way affects your opinion on the other.
Gary doesn't have "dated" views on homosexuality. He just isn't comfortable when gay men flirt with him. He'd probably be just as uncomfortable if a woman that he found unattractive was flirting with him. It's more of the awkwardness of rejecting an unwanted sexual advance than anything else.
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Indeed. The next sex competition is about to happen. I'm not sure if I want to be part of it or not... (I guess yes but..)
Seems Yuki is in for a treat, though.
And without reverting to Japanese, either, for the convenience of the listeners...
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Is it just me or does Zii seem to have *more* underwear on in the first panel of this strip than she did in the first panel of the previous comic?
I think it's actually that her pants have fallen down some since then.
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Some would argue that Zii already has cheated on Erik by this stage, but that's a subjective opinion on where the line gets drawn. Personally, I think this is a little bit too progressed to be considered "okay". If Yuki hadn't yelled and snapped Zii out of it... but she did, so we can't know how much further it'd have gone.
Taking a practical attitude, the fact is that Zii obviously cares for Erik, and discussing whether she technically cheated on him or not might be missing the point.
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Hm, given Zii's usual fidelity, i'd call this particular bout of "snapping out of it and rethinking the situation" an improvement. She's got poor impulse control when it comes to the sexual things. So good on her and the lower standard applies to her.
Strictly speaking, I don't think we've actually seen her cheating on someone yet. She's never been known to have a proper [gender]friend, so she can't technically cheat on anyone. In fact, form all evidence, she's rather open about her casualness, which might explain the predicament she's in with Sonya: she's not used to it going that way.
As for the lousy impulse control. Yes. Oh yes.
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Some would argue that Zii already has cheated on Erik by this stage, but that's a subjective opinion on where the line gets drawn. Personally, I think this is a little bit too progressed to be considered "okay". If Yuki hadn't yelled and snapped Zii out of it... but she did, so we can't know how much further it'd have gone.
Taking a practical attitude, the fact is that Zii obviously cares for Erik, and discussing whether she technically cheated on him or not might be missing the point.
On the other hand, we're the audience, so we have a fairly good idea of just what was going to be shown to us given the build up.
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Some would argue that Zii already has cheated on Erik by this stage, but that's a subjective opinion on where the line gets drawn. Personally, I think this is a little bit too progressed to be considered "okay". If Yuki hadn't yelled and snapped Zii out of it... but she did, so we can't know how much further it'd have gone.
Considering the line is generally drawn at kissing on the mouth or make-outs and such, I'd say "getting naked to have sex" would have crossed it yeah, even if they didn't actually get to the sex.
On the subject of today's comic: damn, Gary, that's some epic blue balls.
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Freaking OUCH! poor Garys testicles are going to leap up into his throat and strangle him over this. Yuki is so gorram oblivious, but honestly, im not entirely sure I blame her. First, an honest question. Can women suffer from a female version of blue balls? If not, then it may make sense that she is honestly totally unaware of what she just did to gary. After all, she has been terrified of sex with guys since before puberty, she might not have ever learned about that condition.
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Traab is yelling everything that I'm thinking already.
"If you don't get those cameras out of my face, I'm gonna go 8.6 on the Richter scale with gastric emissions that'll clear this room."
Yeah, but wasnt that frustration and not actual pain? She was horny beyond belief and couldnt get anyone to do anything about it, but I dont recall her being aroused to that point, then cut off, and spending the rest of the night going, "OW OW OW!" She was just pissed, then slightly psychotic. Then incredibly psychotic. :p
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Traab is yelling everything that I'm thinking already.
"If you don't get those cameras out of my face, I'm gonna go 8.6 on the Richter scale with gastric emissions that'll clear this room."
Huh. Until I looked it up on Wiki just now, I had no idea Blue Balls were actually a thing. I mean, I was aware of the term, but I always thought it meant just frustration, not something actually physical.
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Huh. Until I looked it up on Wiki just now, I had no idea Blue Balls were actually a thing. I mean, I was aware of the term, but I always thought it meant just frustration, not something actually physical.
I used to think the same thing until I actually experienced it.
After all, she has been terrified of sex with guys since before puberty, she might not have ever learned about that condition.
Unlikely if she's had any real exposure to western entertainment or culture. I have no interest in having sex with men, but I certainly found out about it as a child from various sources, most of which were, like, PG-13. Then I was told it was just a cultural myth that was perpetuated in order to guilt-trip women into having sex.
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If you're going to get on me for that single word, then you might want to pay some attention to the post I was responding to and the ideas it contained.
