No, Dillon's just a jerk. It's okay for him to cheat on Yuki with Gary, but not if someone else does it.
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The Atlas is also goofy but it has that whole "Stay Puft Marshmallow Man" menacing smile thing going for it. The guy who drew that one up was obviously taken to the Nutcracker when he was a child... and he was screaming in terror the entire time.
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No, Dillon's just a jerk. It's okay for him to cheat on Yuki with Gary, but not if someone else does it.
He probably thinks giving sensual massages to a naked person doesn't count as cheating. Or the crotch rub. Was there a crotch rub? I think there was a crotch rub.
Either way, while I don't think what he did was okay, Amber did take it quite a step further.
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No, Dillon's just a jerk. It's okay for him to cheat on Yuki with Gary, but not if someone else does it.
Dillon gave him a massage.
A pervy massage, yes, but the intention was for it to be a massage.
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No. nonono. Dillion, when someone you claim as your best friend is in relationship with crotch-kicking psycho and he is going to 'get it on' with girl of his dreams, you do not, I repeat DO NOT interrupt.
No. nonono. Dillion, when someone you claim as your best friend is in relationship with crotch-kicking psycho and he is going to 'get it on' with girl of his dreams, you do not, I repeat DO NOT interrupt.
Dillon is too selfish for that. *HE* wants Gary, and that's all there is to it, regardless of what Yuki, Amber, Gary or even Reality wants.
Okay, this is my subjective view but.. I think from Dillon's point of view he's just fooling around with Gary. He knows, he doesn't have a chance but he's having his fun. He doesn't care if Gary's uncomfortable about it, yeah, and maybe he goes a bit too far but he's not going to interfere seriously with Gary's relationship. While Amber is totally aiming for that. Though with not-so-bad reasons.
I'm not totally sure and yeah, I feel bad because Gary really could have had a fun adventure but I'm not all "Dillon's a ****" about this...
I'll just say this. If Inquisition would get their claws on Dillon and did a number on him, I would watch, while eating popcorn and laughting gleefuly all the time.
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I'll just say this. If Inquisition would get their claws on Dillon and did a number on him, I would watch, while eating popcorn and laughting gleefuly all the time.
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But seriously, if it weren't for the fact, that Dillon wanted to play with Gary just a moment before, he could have been in the right to break in.
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Maybe the fact that Matt cheated on Dillon makes Dillon a little sensitive to that? I sort of agree that he wasn't seriously thinking he was going to get anywhere with Gary. He was just sort of teasing him. He's not an idiot.
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Maybe the fact that Matt cheated on Dillon makes Dillon a little sensitive to that? I sort of agree that he wasn't seriously thinking he was going to get anywhere with Gary. He was just sort of teasing him. He's not an idiot.
the problem is, he's teasing Gary beyond what's supposed to be fun. the fact that him making moves on Gary doesn't succeed does not take away the fact that Dillon is still making moves.
i am actually wondering why Gary still has his sanity and hasn't become a zombie to the acts that Amber has played on him...
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Maybe the fact that Matt cheated on Dillon makes Dillon a little sensitive to that? I sort of agree that he wasn't seriously thinking he was going to get anywhere with Gary. He was just sort of teasing him. He's not an idiot.
Not being an idiot and going beyond teasing aren't mutually exclusive.
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I wanted to write about how the only opinion of what counts as cheating that matters, is Gary's and no one else's. It's his relationship after all; he and Yuki are the ones who decide where the boundaries are, not a selfish third party's.
I also wanted to write about how Dillon's motivations, whatever they are, can only be taken at face value until explained in-comic and so far seem no more innocent than Amber's. If he's not actively trying to seduce Gary, then he seems to be deliberately flirting with him because Dillon seems to enjoy Gary's discomfort, which is a very unpleasant thing to do.
It was, however, coming out as sounding very judgemental - "Amber is a porn star and has no morals regarding relationships", "Dillon is a bully only interested in getting what he wants" - which wasn't the tone that I was going for.
Bottom line without unfortunate overtones: Gary needs to realise that everyone else is being very selfish and taking advantage of him, and that until we get a VERY good explanation to the contrary then I don't believe for a second that Dillon gets to play the "I was cheated on and I know how much it hurts" card on Gary, not after the discomfort and embarrassment that he has caused so far.
We just have to stop and remind ourselves that every person in the Ma3verse is a horrible, awful human being. Except Eric, because he has no personality. Then it all makes sense again.
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The Atlas is also goofy but it has that whole "Stay Puft Marshmallow Man" menacing smile thing going for it. The guy who drew that one up was obviously taken to the Nutcracker when he was a child... and he was screaming in terror the entire time.
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We just have to stop and remind ourselves that every person in the Ma3verse is a horrible, awful human being. Except Eric, because he has no personality. Then it all makes sense again.
But... but... but... Gary. And possibly Kiley. Well, let's not start on that. But Gary! Okay, he lacks a spine but he has some kind of personality and he isn't more selfish than... average. (I better not try to define average)
I don't count Gary because I don't really count him as a person under that analysis - he walks and talks, but the only reason for his existence is to be something that everyone else mistreats, abuses, or takes advantage of. He's not a protagonist so much as a prop-tagonist.
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The Atlas is also goofy but it has that whole "Stay Puft Marshmallow Man" menacing smile thing going for it. The guy who drew that one up was obviously taken to the Nutcracker when he was a child... and he was screaming in terror the entire time.
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Glyphstone, out of all the playground I think you scare me the most...
I don't count Gary because I don't really count him as a person under that analysis - he walks and talks, but the only reason for his existence is to be something that everyone else mistreats, abuses, or takes advantage of. He's not a protagonist so much as a prop-tagonist.
We just have to stop and remind ourselves that every person in the Ma3verse is a horrible, awful human being. Except Eric, because he has no personality. Then it all makes sense again.
Jung?
So uh... while I'd say punishment is somewhat justified, Dillon seems pretty hypocritical in his dishing out of it here. And is it me or does it almost feel like he's doing it more because he feels cheated, because Gary is dating Yuki?
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So uh... while I'd say punishment is somewhat justified, Dillon seems pretty hypocritical in his dishing out of it here. And is it me or does it almost feel like he's doing it more because he feels cheated, because Gary is dating Yuki?
My idealism says that he's angry because he knows what it's like to be cheated on.
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We just have to stop and remind ourselves that every person in the Ma3verse is a horrible, awful human being. Except Eric, because he has no personality. Then it all makes sense again.
Hmm... P-Zombies? Or is Gary the only P-Zombie?
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He probably thinks giving sensual massages to a naked person doesn't count as cheating. Or the crotch rub. Was there a crotch rub? I think there was a crotch rub.
Either way, while I don't think what he did was okay, Amber did take it quite a step further.
Not for lack of wanting to, but because she had the time to do so and didn't shoot herself in the foot like he did.
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Dillon gave him a massage.
A pervy massage, yes, but the intention was for it to be a massage.
A pervy massage that was a transparently obvious set-up to relaxing him, seducing him, and then making him into a conquest. You don't put a towel down and then toss it off again if you're not planning on having sex with the person, Dillon's too comfortable with the process to not know that, even if he did make a horrible faux pas.
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So uh... while I'd say punishment is somewhat justified, Dillon seems pretty hypocritical in his dishing out of it here. And is it me or does it almost feel like he's doing it more because he feels cheated, because Gary is dating Yuki?
It's probably one of those situations where it's all of the above and the real argument is over how they're portioned out.
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Not sure if I'm reading the timeline right.... If Dillon was around long enough to have heard that Yuki was now Gary's girlfriend, he must also have heard Gary telling Amber to 'wait' and 'stop', as Yuki's name wasn't mentioned after that.
So.... Gary tells Amber that Yuki is his girlfriend, Amber persists, Gary asks her to stop, and so Gary gets a beating for trying to be a cheat?
Yeah, pretty sure this is sour grapes on Dillon's part, rather than any kind of actual moral stand that he's taking.
Having said that; Amber is naked, and watching Dillon administer a spanking to a naked Gary.... Taking bets on who will walk in and get entirely the wrong impression on what is going on?
I'm going to say Didi, for some reason. Seeing Gary nude, meeting someone who can help her expand her newly discovered S&M side AND putting her in a place for Amber to get even more angry at her? So much trouble, all stirred up in one go!
Not sure if I'm reading the timeline right.... If Dillon was around long enough to have heard that Yuki was now Gary's girlfriend, he must also have heard Gary telling Amber to 'wait' and 'stop', as Yuki's name wasn't mentioned after that.
So.... Gary tells Amber that Yuki is his girlfriend, Amber persists, Gary asks her to stop, and so Gary gets a beating for trying to be a cheat?
Yeah, pretty sure this is sour grapes on Dillon's part, rather than any kind of actual moral stand that he's taking.
Note that Gary still stayed in the shower with her, though. That's the important part.
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