Oh, Dillon, you so uncharacteristically naive for when you're from and what you are, especially considering the topic at hand before you asked him if he loved her.
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I have absolutely no idea why, or for how long this has been going on, or why that suddenly gives him a veto on anything that happens in Gary's life, but the concept is kinda sweet.
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Whoah, hold on, dude. They just started going out. Let's back up off the L word just a bit.
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Whoah, hold on, dude. They just started going out. Let's back up off the L word just a bit.
I suppose this adds new depths to how unhealthy the relationship between Matt and Dillon was then.
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+3 Girlfriend is totally unoptimized. You are better off with a +1 Keen Witty girlfriend and then appling Greater Magic Make-up to increase her enhancement bonus.
Eh, depends on what you put in the word. I mean, I love my brother, and I love ice cream. Doesn't mean I'd trade one for another. It can carry many different connotations.
I can totally see an argument that you shouldn't be together unless you love each other, for a given meaning of love.
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I'm not sure if the English language puts a totally different meaning to love than German does... or if I'm just weird.
What's wrong with saying you love somebody? And what is wrong with only committing to a relationship if you love somebody? Oh, sure, you can date anyone but saying "we are in a relationship" feels like something that goes well with loving each other. Ah, I guess that's just me.
I guess giantitp is not the place to discuss relationships anyway
Well, Gary gets sympathy from Amber and Dillon... A spine would have been more useful but whatever.... How desperate do you have to be to accept any person as your partner as long as they want you? Okay, it's not entirely what is happening but I feel Gary would do even that.
Nah, i'm with you here. German love is not taken lightly.
Meanwhile, yeah... Gary is in a situation that might warrant hugs. (While naked. >_>) But he gets a beginner discount, due to never having been in this situation before, i'd say.
How desperate do you have to be to accept any person as your partner as long as they want you?
As someone who subscribes to Gary's mentality (in theory, anyway), you don't have to be. I'm theoretically straight, but conditionally asexual. I don't experience physical or sexual attraction to someone unless I can see that they're attracted to me. So I'm technically the opposite of desperate.
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I just like how everyone but dillion is naked, and has been for awhile, but noone seems to notice or care as this deep discussion goes on. I dont know about you, but I get COLD when I step out of the shower.
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Traab is yelling everything that I'm thinking already.
"If you don't get those cameras out of my face, I'm gonna go 8.6 on the Richter scale with gastric emissions that'll clear this room."
I finally feel a sense of hope. I've considered dropping this webcomic because I despise Yuki so much, and she just keeps winning.
*hugs* ^_^
The thing is, some of the folks here in this thread have the advantage of knowing what it's like to be in a relationship, whereas Gary has no prior experience about sexual etiquette or even what should or shouldn't be norm for a relationship.
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Gary does have some experience of sexual etiquette - everything he knows, he learned from his collection of pornography.
It makes perfect sense as to why he thinks it's okay to be used as an orgasm machine and why love doesn't hold much priority in his thinking. It's also very, very frightening since this phenomenon is based in real social observations.
Eh, depends on what you put in the word. I mean, I love my brother, and I love ice cream. Doesn't mean I'd trade one for another. It can carry many different connotations.
I can totally see an argument that you shouldn't be together unless you love each other, for a given meaning of love.
What are you talking about? In a romantic context, at least according to everything I've ever seen from western culture, it would be the height of disingenuous to put anything but the conventional interpretation and meaning to loving one's partner.
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I'm not sure if the English language puts a totally different meaning to love than German does... or if I'm just weird.
What's wrong with saying you love somebody? And what is wrong with only committing to a relationship if you love somebody?
Nothing. No one has said that.
What's wrong is Dillon's naivete and stating something in clear contravention of the facts as shown to himself, Amber, Gary, and most importantly us, the audience.
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Well, Gary gets sympathy from Amber and Dillon... A spine would have been more useful but whatever.... How desperate do you have to be to accept any person as your partner as long as they want you? Okay, it's not entirely what is happening but I feel Gary would do even that.
I'm reminded of a line from Ferris Bueller's Day Off, I must admit. I can't find the blasted thing though. Something about being so desperate that any woman who showed any interest would receive slavish devotion and be free to abuse him most cruelly.
And that's totally what's happening.
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+3 Girlfriend is totally unoptimized. You are better off with a +1 Keen Witty girlfriend and then appling Greater Magic Make-up to increase her enhancement bonus.
Which just shows how unhealthy pornography is....
I'm with Talya here- Yuki just isn't ready to be in a relationship, at least not a heterosexual one.
And I can't understand how she isn't locked up in a rubber room somewhere after she kicked multiple men in the crotch.
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Which just shows how unhealthy pornography is....
I'm with Talya here- Yuki just isn't ready to be in a relationship, at least not a heterosexual one.
And I can't understand how she isn't locked up in a rubber room somewhere after she kicked multiple men in the crotch.
If Zii is any indication then she was probably also unfit for a same-sex relationship and doesn't really seem to have meaningfully matured so much as having gotten an easily abused 'fix' in the form of Gary.
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+3 Girlfriend is totally unoptimized. You are better off with a +1 Keen Witty girlfriend and then appling Greater Magic Make-up to increase her enhancement bonus.
Which just shows how unhealthy pornography is....
I'm with Talya here- Yuki just isn't ready to be in a relationship, at least not a heterosexual one.
And I can't understand how she isn't locked up in a rubber room somewhere after she kicked multiple men in the crotch.
In the Ma3verse, the dictionary does not have a definition for 'consequences'.
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The Atlas is also goofy but it has that whole "Stay Puft Marshmallow Man" menacing smile thing going for it. The guy who drew that one up was obviously taken to the Nutcracker when he was a child... and he was screaming in terror the entire time.
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I'm not sure if the English language puts a totally different meaning to love than German does... or if I'm just weird.
What's wrong with saying you love somebody? And what is wrong with only committing to a relationship if you love somebody?
There's nothing wrong with it. It's just that Gary didn't do either.
Personally, I'd only do the former if I felt it to be true. Second one is up in the air.
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I don't think Gary being with Yuki is a matter of taking his lessons from pornography. As someone who has been in a similar situation, I think what matters more that this is Gary's first dating relationship (the thing with... what's her name? Yuki's therapist with aspirations for bigger breasts?... that doesn't count; they were only together for a day or so). Even though their relationship is completely dysfunctional and unsatisfying for Gary, he sticks around because he can't fathom that anyone else might take a liking to him. He'll rather try and survive in a bad relationship than have no relationship at all.
Of course, I might be projecting my own experiences here. But if you want another reason, there's also the fact that Gary admires Yuki's father and aspires to be like him. If memory serves, the father even offered mentoring Gary - an opportunity our poor protagonist can kiss goodbye the second he breaks up with Yuki.
Oddly enough, that's what this week's Misfits episode was about. For those of you who don't understand the premise: magic lightning gives certain people powers. They're based on personality and usually blow rocks. Anyway, there was a girl who used her Compelling Voice to hold her boyfriend by the metaphorical balls. And squeeze. Tightly. It involved cunnulingus. Lots of it. The thing is, after rebelling the first time, and breaking up, the guy goes back & willingly submits to her doing it because he "loves" her. And before you start going the abuse route, note that his "rebellion" involved tying her to a bed, gagged, for an indefinite period of time. There was talk of a bucket. And on-screen visual of said bucket.
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Oddly enough, that's what this week's Misfits episode was about. For those of you who don't understand the premise: magic lightning gives certain people powers. They're based on personality and usually blow rocks. Anyway, there was a girl who used her Compelling Voice to hold her boyfriend by the metaphorical balls. And squeeze. Tightly. It involved cunnulingus. Lots of it. The thing is, after rebelling the first time, and breaking up, the guy goes back & willingly submits to her doing it because he "loves" her. And before you start going the abuse route, note that his "rebellion" involved tying her to a bed, gagged, for an indefinite period of time. There was talk of a bucket. And on-screen visual of said bucket.
Err... That doesn't exactly head off the abuse line in the slightest, love. :/
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+3 Girlfriend is totally unoptimized. You are better off with a +1 Keen Witty girlfriend and then appling Greater Magic Make-up to increase her enhancement bonus.
Err... That doesn't exactly head off the abuse line in the slightest, love. :/
Read the Compelling Voice article and come back to me. Short version: he literally had to do everything she told him to do. She went on vacation (without him) and told him to clean the house while she was away, and he did it. She tells him to change his personality, and he does. She has complete control over him.
Abuse isn't only physical.
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I keep quoting your posts. But they might not mean what I think they do...
Read the Compelling Voice article and come back to me. Short version: he literally had to do everything she told him to do. She went on vacation (without him) and told him to clean the house while she was away, and he did it. She tells him to change his personality, and he does. She has complete control over him.
Abuse isn't only physical.
Well now you're just seeming to contradict yourself then.
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+3 Girlfriend is totally unoptimized. You are better off with a +1 Keen Witty girlfriend and then appling Greater Magic Make-up to increase her enhancement bonus.
That was me not clarifying, actually. What I'd meant to say was that she wasn't the only one in the relationship that was abusive, so we shouldn't be going "what a bitch why is he still with her he should be with me"
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I keep quoting your posts. But they might not mean what I think they do...
I swear by the 15 signs of an abusive partner. You'll have to Google it, because I just got kicked off the computer and linking by phone is too troublesome for me.
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I keep quoting your posts. But they might not mean what I think they do...
That was me not clarifying, actually. What I'd meant to say was that she wasn't the only one in the relationship that was abusive, so we shouldn't be going "what a bitch why is he still with her he should be with me"
...And I was pointing out that, no, that doesn't really work that way.
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+3 Girlfriend is totally unoptimized. You are better off with a +1 Keen Witty girlfriend and then appling Greater Magic Make-up to increase her enhancement bonus.
For that matter, how the heck did the trees move so far in Zombies Redux? I mean, are they using Thief movement? Or did they just all finangle around in a block-maze manner that would make me dizzy if watching it on a gameboy during the Other phase?
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