Ménage à 3 III: 47 Seconds Later

[Eldan]

I'd say they'd be outside the visible spectrum by now.

[Draconi Redfir]

They've probably abandoned the light spectrum entirely and have begun running through time.

[The Glyphstone]

Originally Posted by Draconi Redfir

They've probably abandoned the light spectrum entirely and have begun running through time.

Backwards through time.


Adds a whole new interpretation to the 'Big Bang'...

[Weimann]

Originally Posted by Domochevsky

Huh, so that's what "fluffer" means, hm? Eenteresting.

The More You Know.

Originally Posted by Domochevsky

(The complete lack of cameras and lights didn't seem to bother her that much either. Maybe she's used to hidden cameras. >_> )

Yeah, I thought about that too. Given the filming locale, maybe she thought they were just using a hand held camera.

[Traab]

Originally Posted by Weimann

The More You Know.

Yeah, I thought about that too. Given the filming locale, maybe she thought they were just using a hand held camera.

My theory is, she didnt stop to look for cameras, she sees her friend standing there naked, with two guys, one of whom is also naked and clearly aroused, (if not as well as possible according to her) standing in the living room. Its a pretty clear setup for a porn shoot, at least an "amateur" shoot. And sweet god allmighty, I now hate the entire universe that gary has to exist in. That poor poor man. At least his "they" are so frustrated that they will soon achieve sentience and learn to travel to an alternate dimension just to escape the pain. With any luck, they will take gary with them to a reality where he can actually get lucky.

[Morph Bark]

Originally Posted by The Glyphstone

I'm pretty sure those balls have blueshifted so far they've turned black.

*insert porn trope here*

[Coidzor]

Originally Posted by Herpestidae

Can't be too sure about that can we? We'll have to wait until the issue comes up again.

He doesn't have a whole lot of endurance, as I recall, but, frankly, I wouldn't be surprised if they'd shriveled up and fallen off by now.

[Draconi Redfir]

Originally Posted by The Glyphstone

Backwards through time.


Adds a whole new interpretation to the 'Big Bang'...

All the universe is Gary's burst balls?

[Eldan]

Does that mean Panspermia is true?

[Traab]

Originally Posted by Coidzor

He doesn't have a whole lot of endurance, as I recall, but, frankly, I wouldn't be surprised if they'd shriveled up and fallen off by now.

You wouldnt last long either if you spent 75% of the day aroused to the cusp of completion then being forcibly stopped. Im surprised chanelle didnt get blasted through the wall.

[Cikomyr]

Oh Yuki...

At first, I was sympathetic for you, and genuinely cared..

But the more I see you, the more I realize you are just a greedy and self-centered person. I liked you more before you realized how you can USE Gary for your own ends.

Because that is all that you do to him; you USE him.

(To be honest, Amber also wants to USE Gary, but she still has a more quid-pro-quo approach)

[datalaughing]

Self-centeredness has always been Yuki's overriding character trait. The very first time we saw her she hasn't seen Zii in quite some time, but she's like, "Did you dress as Tralala for me?" And even when she was crushing on Gary and we were supposed to feel sympathy for her, it was still all about what she wanted. What did Gary want? Who cares. She never bothered to consider it because it was irrelevant in Yuki world.

To be fair, though, most of the characters are completely self-centered. The only one of the girls (or guys) chasing Gary who ever stopped to ask what he wanted was Kiley, which is why she's my favorite.

[Cikomyr]

Originally Posted by datalaughing

Self-centeredness has always been Yuki's overriding character trait. The very first time we saw her she hasn't seen Zii in quite some time, but she's like, "Did you dress as Tralala for me?" And even when she was crushing on Gary and we were supposed to feel sympathy for her, it was still all about what she wanted. What did Gary want? Who cares. She never bothered to consider it because it was irrelevant in Yuki world.

To be fair, though, most of the characters are completely self-centered. The only one of the girls (or guys) chasing Gary who ever stopped to ask what he wanted was Kiley, which is why she's my favorite.

To be honest, Amber don't need to ask what he wants. She already know sit.

[The Succubus]

I suspect Saturday's strip will involve Zii and Sonya bringing Yuki crashing back down to Earth with a bump. I hope so, at the very least.

[Kato]

Originally Posted by The Succubus

I suspect Saturday's strip will involve Zii and Sonya bringing Yuki crashing back down to Earth with a bump. I hope so, at the very least.

I really can't see how this might happen... Unless Zii takes up the challenge to the "best lover in the world". And honestly, I'm pretty sure she's better than Gary. All he has is the swirly. Or maybe Yuki just doesn't care about anything else in bed...

[Weimann]

Okay, first of all, back off Yuki. I agree, she's being pretty selfish, but fact is that this is her first relationship with a boy and she's probably a bit freaked out about it. My guess is, now that she has found a way she can actually appreciate boys and see a use for them, she wants to work with that as much as she can.

Besides, it's not her fault that Gary was born without the DNA that coded for certain parts of the skeletal structure. Girl's got to look out for herself. Frankly, this is just even more reason that Gary needs to change.

Second, it is possible that the reason she calls Gary the best lover ever is because she has feelings for him other places than her crotch. I'm fairly damn certain Gary's hypermonofocused talent shouldn't be able to out-do Zii's experience if it came down to sheer physical skill. That is, of course, a good development, she just hasn't realized it herself yet.

[Coidzor]

Originally Posted by Weimann

Okay, first of all, back off Yuki. I agree, she's being pretty selfish, but fact is that this is her first relationship with a boy and she's probably a bit freaked out about it. My guess is, now that she has found a way she can actually appreciate boys and see a use for them, she wants to work with that as much as she can.

Her behavior does not evince this in the slightest, so your argument here is rather weak and tenuous, sir.

Originally Posted by Weimann

Besides, it's not her fault that Gary was born without the DNA that coded for certain parts of the skeletal structure. Girl's got to look out for herself. Frankly, this is just even more reason that Gary needs to change.

No, the weakness of others is not carte blanche to others to take advantage of or abuse them even if it has been treated as such for all of human history.

Originally Posted by Weimann

Second, it is possible that the reason she calls Gary the best lover ever is because she has feelings for him other places than her crotch. I'm fairly damn certain Gary's hypermonofocused talent shouldn't be able to out-do Zii's experience if it came down to sheer physical skill. That is, of course, a good development, she just hasn't realized it herself yet.

You'd need to actually have something to stand on for that argument to be an argument rather than baseless speculation though.

Also, as we've seen, the swirly is essentially magic, so, yeah, it could.

[Weimann]

Originally Posted by Coidzor

Her behavior does not evince this in the slightest, so your argument here is rather weak and tenuous, sir.

Evince, huh? Thank you for teaching me a new word.

It's not the most substantiated claim, but it's decently believable. She's been scared of guys all her life, now she has a reason to like them, and she delightfully surprised. As you say, no proof, but I shall see what upcoming comics say about the hypothesis.

Originally Posted by Coidzor

No, the weakness of others is not carte blanche to others to take advantage of or abuse them even if it has been treated as such for all of human history.

There are degrees of abuse. Let's not try to equate this to physical abuse or blackmail or anything. This is Yuki asking Gary if he'll do her and Gary doing it.

Yes, Yuki not offering returns is hardly fair, but consider that she's been traumatized to the point of hallucinations. I can fully understand why she's not offering, and since Gary isn't asking...

Which is why Gary needs to toughen the heck up. For both of their sakes. Exposure and careful acclimatisation might be the key to Yuki overcoming her phobia, and Gary's benefits are obvious. Otherwise, he'll need to overlook his options (by this point they are considerable) and find a new damn girlfriend.

I'm not saying Gary isn't a newbie at this. I'm not saying he shouldn't be treated with care and expected to not be the most smooth operator. But he has to work on getting better. He can't expect others to do his work for him. And he (and we) can't forget that he isn't the only one in an unenviable position.

Originally Posted by Coidzor

You'd need to actually have something to stand on for that argument to be an argument rather than baseless speculation though.

Also, as we've seen, the swirly is essentially magic, so, yeah, it could.

Conceded.

[Morph Bark]

All the world's problems would be solved if Gary became a manly man.

Alas, we shall have to wait ever so long.

[Ravens_cry]

Originally Posted by Morph Bark

All the world's problems would be solved if Gary became a manly man.

Alas, we shall have to wait ever so long.

I do not think Gary is ready for the Bran-dao, much less true Nirmana.

[datalaughing]

Originally Posted by Weimann

Okay, first of all, back off Yuki. I agree, she's being pretty selfish, but fact is that this is her first relationship with a boy and she's probably a bit freaked out about it. My guess is, now that she has found a way she can actually appreciate boys and see a use for them, she wants to work with that as much as she can.

As I pointed out, she was pathologically self-centered before ever liking Gary. Pretty much every interaction she's had with anyone since the beginning of the comic revolves around what she can get out of it or what's happening to her, to the point that she sometimes seems oblivious even to the existence of other people. She sits on Gary's face when she first shows up and then gets infuriated with him for daring to have his face there. Then she hates Gary until she realizes that he can draw and might be useful as an artist for her comic. A naked woman (Didi) comes in and says, "Do with me as you will." She never questions who this is, what she's doing or what she wants. Her only thought is to start examining her to determine how good a model she'd make for her comic so that she, Yuki, can make money.

Those are just her first three scenes in the comic. I could go on and on. Now like I said, she's not the only selfish person in the comic, but she certainly seems the most consistently, even nonsensically, self-centered.

[Traab]

Originally Posted by datalaughing

As I pointed out, she was pathologically self-centered before ever liking Gary. Pretty much every interaction she's had with anyone since the beginning of the comic revolves around what she can get out of it or what's happening to her, to the point that she sometimes seems oblivious even to the existence of other people. She sits on Gary's face when she first shows up and then gets infuriated with him for daring to have his face there. Then she hates Gary until she realizes that he can draw and might be useful as an artist for her comic. A naked woman (Didi) Didi comes in and says, "Do with me as you will." She never questions who this is, what she's doing or what she wants. Her only thought is to start examining her to determine how good a model she'd make for her comic so that she, Yuki, can make money.

Those are just her first three scenes in the comic. I could go on and on. Now like I said, she's not the only selfish person in the comic, but she certainly seems the most consistently, even nonsensically, self-centered.

You dont have to go far back, just read this latest comic, she tells sandra and zii, that gary is the best lover she has ever had. Zii is a former lover, and sandra got beat out for the girlfriend slot by yuki. Its like reality doesnt exist, only the words currently coming out of her mouth.

[Weimann]

Originally Posted by datalaughing

As I pointed out, she was pathologically self-centered before ever liking Gary. Pretty much every interaction she's had with anyone since the beginning of the comic revolves around what she can get out of it or what's happening to her, to the point that she sometimes seems oblivious even to the existence of other people. She sits on Gary's face when she first shows up and then gets infuriated with him for daring to have his face there. Then she hates Gary until she realizes that he can draw and might be useful as an artist for her comic. A naked woman (Didi) comes in and says, "Do with me as you will." She never questions who this is, what she's doing or what she wants. Her only thought is to start examining her to determine how good a model she'd make for her comic so that she, Yuki, can make money.

Those are just her first three scenes in the comic. I could go on and on. Now like I said, she's not the only selfish person in the comic, but she certainly seems the most consistently, even nonsensically, self-centered.

I... can't actually argue with that. Hm.

While I admit that you have a point here, I can't say that I think it makes her particularly unrealistic, however.

[Wraith]

Originally Posted by datalaughing

Her only thought is to start examining her to determine how good a model she'd make for her comic so that she, Yuki, can make money.

To be fair, at that point her only motivation was to stick it to her father - who she thought was a terrible parent despite, apparently, not having an income of her own while be able to travel freely between Japan and the U.S. and him clearly doting upon her in his own appearances - by writing a comic that was more successful than his.

Just an observation; Not that it makes her any better, and does in fact raise the question as to why she's still having Gary draw her doushin if she has made up with her Dad and he has given her his blessing in choice of boyfriends....

[Coidzor]

I couldn't recall if he even had time to do any of that with the use he was being put to by her.

[Weimann]

Originally Posted by Wraith

Just an observation; Not that it makes her any better, and does in fact raise the question as to why she's still having Gary draw her doushin if she has made up with her Dad and he has given her his blessing in choice of boyfriends....

Unrelated feelings developed? See above?

[Kato]

Well... I wouldn't make Yuki out quite as bad as most here seem to do but she is really, really selfish.
Do I believe she really likes Gary for some reason? Yeah. Do I think she is able to have a proper, healthy relationship with anyone? Hell no.
I still can't really hate her, though. Being selfish is human.

[datalaughing]

Sonya's head is kind of messed up from not getting any. How to fix that? Apparently, the only prescription is more cowbell.

[Traab]

First of all, you win data. Secondly, I am kind of getting the feeling that yuki is less selfish, and more oblivious atm. Like she isnt aware of just how much damage she is causing with her inability to reciprocate. On the other hand, signs that she is improving slightly in her psychosis continue to mount. So maybe she will be ready to give it another try? If gary waits until she is totally comfortable, she will never get better. She has to push her boundaries or they will never increase. Im not saying he should tie her down and give it to her at all angles, but encouraging her to touch him in slow stages, like through their clothes for example, would be helpful. As she gets used to that, remove a layer and try again. Just push farther each time she gets used to the current level until eventually you hit a brick wall or she is able to handle the full monty.

[Shogo]

Just one little detail I should mention . . . Mainly to Weimann.

Gary isn't the first boyfriend that Yuki has ever had. She actually has had relationships with men before. She's just never been able to have sex with a guy before, because of the tentacle freak outs.