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Old 09-11-2012, 06:02 AM   Top  -  End  -  #421
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Yeah, I saw that strip as well. I found it quite motivational and...



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Kind of suprises me how many people on the forum are "me too".

But then, xkcd pretty much breathes ADD.
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Thatwas awesome.

So was the balloon thing. I can see how it would have special meaning for a person with ADD, but it sure seemed to sum up my life. Recently I kind of feel like I'm just lying there while all the balloons float away. I spent the first half of this year fighting off a recurring respiratory infection. When I finally seemed to get rid of it, I broke my collarbone. Sorry to complain about it again, but, well, whining is one of the few things I can do unimpaired.

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This makes me think about the nature of chasing balloons. In the old days, before we realized how bad it was for the environment and how dangerous for animals, there used to be balloon releases. I guess I'm just going to have to learn to see the beauty to letting balloons sail off into the sky, because even with two good arms, I'd never be able to catch them all. No-one ever does.

And I guess the first balloon I need to let go free is the one that cares about the stuff I mentioned in the spoiler.

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Well yes, but that's something quite different from the analogy in the comic.

The baloons are not major things that occupy our mind, but all the minor tasks of daily life that normal people don't even give a thought. It's just done.
Buy food, change the lightbulb, get the clothes out of the washing machine, do the dishes, comb your hair, put on a shirt, fil out the forms for university, put the butter back into the fridge, get out the garbage. Tiny things of no significance that take just a few minutes or even seconds. But there's dozens of them all the time while you are trying to concentrate on playing Kerbal Space Program. But you can't really enjoy that either, becuase there's always 20 more baloons right in front of your face calling "catch me, catch me!"

And when it's "turn in your graduation thesis" or "fill out the forms to get health insurance", things can turn quite bad.

Simply "not giving a sh*t" actually comes quite easy. In fact, it comes all by itself even if you would really want to care.
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I don't think there's only one way of looking at the comic. I think the sense of balloons escaping is a common human experience. But it can be intensified by things like ADD, depression, and an injury that causes impairment.

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Speaking of depression..

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Only help we can give, as far as I can tell from your post, is big hugs, and pushing you to go talk to someone professional. What you have there needs to get checked out.
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I'd like to second Castaras' sage advice. The experiences you have are very intense and are disrupting your life. And you have listed multiple diagnoses. You need and deserve the help of someone qualified.

I hope though you'll keep in touch and let us know how you continue to do. I also hope you begin to feel a little better soon. I am glad you've already figured out one coping mechanism.

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One thing that may help Myn - part of the problem at the moment is that you don't have a sanctuary.

By this, I mean a space for you to be alone with your thoughts and feelings. Your new guild will help with this, sure and I really hope it turns out well for you. But you also need a physical sanctuary as well. If you come home each evening to arguments and yelling, it's only going to make things more unpleasant.

You say that you're uncomfortable about being outside but perhaps this is what you need. Are there any parks or wooded areas or public gardens near to where you live? The closer the better really. Find somewhere like that, out of the way so you won't be disturbed and relax with a portable gaming system like a DS or a PSP with some headphones on.

It's good that you want to help your best friend and your sister. Just don't let yourself be hurt or used as a gaming chip between them though.
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Wow, people are obscenely serious about their MMOs. Not just you, but also the people acting like jerks towards you. I can understand them being annoyed with what you did, but I mean... grow up, really.

Yeah, I'm afraid there's not much anyone can do for you without some real help. There's no quick pep talk to get out past depression and PTSD. You need to see a professional if this is an ongoing thing.

There are components here that you may be able to alleviate in the meantime, though. Your distress is coming from their fighting. Talk to your sister and see if there's some way they can ease off with the yelling and fighting, knowing what it's putting you through. Are they still living together? I can't imagine that will last.

Sleep. You need it. Look up some insomnia advice online. I'm not well-versed in it, but I'm sure there are groups out there to help. If you can't sleep at night, keep yourself awake the next day until night again, hopefully you'll be so tired that your schedule will reset, I don't know.

Find some more positive habit to alleviate the smoking. Not easy, I know.
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Well yes, but that's something quite different from the analogy in the comic.

The baloons are not major things that occupy our mind, but all the minor tasks of daily life that normal people don't even give a thought. It's just done.
Buy food, change the lightbulb, get the clothes out of the washing machine, do the dishes, comb your hair, put on a shirt, fil out the forms for university, put the butter back into the fridge, get out the garbage. Tiny things of no significance that take just a few minutes or even seconds. But there's dozens of them all the time while you are trying to concentrate on playing Kerbal Space Program. But you can't really enjoy that either, becuase there's always 20 more baloons right in front of your face calling "catch me, catch me!"

And when it's "turn in your graduation thesis" or "fill out the forms to get health insurance", things can turn quite bad.

Simply "not giving a sh*t" actually comes quite easy. In fact, it comes all by itself even if you would really want to care.
Bingo. This is exactly what I've been trying to say to people for a while. And even though my ADHD isn't that severe, I was still staring at that comic for a while because it really hit home.
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Thanks everyone for their advice ~

Update on the situation:

Things are kind of getting better for Nathan and Dana.. At least they aren't yelling as much anyhow. But my in-game life has gone to hell.

Being abused by GM's of my old guild because apparently I betrayed them, when I left (even though I ninja'd the bank, but I gave -everything- back) because I was sick of their b****ing and complaining about every little thing. Reported them to Blizzard but I'm not expecting them to do much. Even been so far that I went on Vent to try and patch things up with them after the coaxing of the one GM who I'm still on good terms with (Lauren), and got abused by two of the GM's quite vehemently. So to be honest, they can get fracked. This is kind of just me venting, but WoW is full of abuse towards me, and Nathan is out clubbing with some friends (and he has our pouch of tobacco) Kind of going crazy here.
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Being someone who talks allot; having lost my voice due to what feels like strep or a sinus infection or some such is VERY annoying. I think I'm being a bit sharpish to people around me and I don't like it.
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Being someone who talks allot; having lost my voice due to what feels like strep or a sinus infection or some such is VERY annoying. I think I'm being a bit sharpish to people around me and I don't like it.
Hey another Central(ish) Coaster!

I take a small spoonful of raw honey when I'm having throat issues. That seems to help a little bit, and if it's bacterial in any way, the honey helps to knock it out.

Maybe that will help?
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Sometimes mixing just honey with hot water also helps, or herbal teas. I've tried it, it really helps.
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I've been favoring the old honey + hot water + Lemon + Scotch so far. Pity it wont put to sleep. Need it.
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I am sorry to hear you are going through stressful times but it really seems like a professional will do you more good than a msgboard.
Also, it seemed like you expected to get back in the guild with just an apology and returning their property. Just because someone apologies does not put any burden on the other to allow that person back into the same position they held before. Broken trust and all.
I hope you find some way to deal with all this stress
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I had a great summer. The weather was great, I did all the things I wanted to do, I was feeling great, I was having a good time. I went through the summer with the attitude that I wasn't going to give a single frig what people thought, I was just going to enjoy myself.

That's fading. I don't know what it is, but I've been feeling kind of down lately. There are a few internal and external factors I can recognize, but they don't seem to be that important, because they're really no different than the summer. For example:

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Don't get me wrong, I realize this probably sounds a lot more dramatic than it actually is. I'm not going to work in sweat pants or refusing to brush my teeth. I'm not avoiding everyone. I'm not depressed and I can still decide to get in a good mood and get in a good mood, just maybe not as good as before. I'm just... just kind of bummed out. It's a mood swing, and I'm sure I'll get over it. I'm not sure if I'm looking for advice, really, and certainly not pity. If you want to chip in, go ahead, I just had to expel some of this (and hope no one I know reads these forums!).
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I had a great summer. The weather was great, I did all the things I wanted to do, I was feeling great, I was having a good time. I went through the summer with the attitude that I wasn't going to give a single frig what people thought, I was just going to enjoy myself.

That's fading. I don't know what it is, but I've been feeling kind of down lately. There are a few internal and external factors I can recognize, but they don't seem to be that important, because they're really no different than the summer. For example:

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Don't get me wrong, I realize this probably sounds a lot more dramatic than it actually is. I'm not going to work in sweat pants or refusing to brush my teeth. I'm not avoiding everyone. I'm not depressed and I can still decide to get in a good mood and get in a good mood, just maybe not as good as before. I'm just... just kind of bummed out. It's a mood swing, and I'm sure I'll get over it. I'm not sure if I'm looking for advice, really, and certainly not pity. If you want to chip in, go ahead, I just had to expel some of this (and hope no one I know reads these forums!).
Dude, I know just how you feel. It would be great if I had some magical advice, but all I can offer is that if you stay that "don't give a frig' guy for too long, you're not going to have many friends, but the ones you do have will be steadfast as hell. Then when you do find a chick, so will she. Some people are going to think you are "trying too hard" or fishing for attention. Even when neither of those are the case at all. You will find that a lot of people in the world do not understand a "don't give a frig" attitude, and can't comprehend how someone can even do it.

It takes a lot to attach yourself to someone like that. Sometimes you are going to be THAT guy. But that is on you to keep that under control.

Still, attention seeking is perfectly normal. Some people are more blatent about it than others, and can appear to try too hard. That is just who they are. Some people won't like it. You can't please everybody.
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Dude, I know just how you feel. It would be great if I had some magical advice, but all I can offer is that if you stay that "don't give a frig' guy for too long, you're not going to have many friends, but the ones you do have will be steadfast as hell. Then when you do find a chick, so will she. Some people are going to think you are "trying too hard" or fishing for attention. Even when neither of those are the case at all. You will find that a lot of people in the world do not understand a "don't give a frig" attitude, and can't comprehend how someone can even do it.
Sometimes it's like you just can't win, you know? People say "just be yourself," but what if "yourself" is an obnoxious jerk? I've tried to change, tried to be someone else, but either it backfires or I just slip back into my normal personality.

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To their credit, my friends did take care of me and get me home when I was sick, which is more than I could ask or expect. I did once behave so poorly that they left a party without telling me.
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Sometimes it's like you just can't win, you know? People say "just be yourself," but what if "yourself" is an obnoxious jerk? I've tried to change, tried to be someone else, but either it backfires or I just slip back into my normal personality.
I feel ya man. Been there multiple times myself. Always with the same result.
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I'm not even sure I get what you mean.
Everything in my life is either out of my hands or I'm not paid enough to deal with it.

Or, in the case of the dying pseudo-relative, I don't have the requisite training to deal with it properly.
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So, who remembers me whining about disability stuff popping up in awkward places?

Well we've got a new one. New bus driver on the line I take to work. It gets pretty busy some days, which I understand. It's not terribly uncommon that I need to move away from the spot I board at because of someone's scent. It's never really been a huge issue.

Enter the new bus driver. For some reason she's decided that this is a disruptive behavior, trying to find a different spot on a crowded bus if I'm in a fairly clear one. And I'm not terribly inclined to announce on a crowded bus that someone's scent is bothering me.

I don't know how to solve this.
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Well, I've missed this coming up before, but the generic version of vick's vapor rub has always done me well when I've had to go across country on a greyhound with all that entails and implies about myself and my fellow passengers.

I'm guessing from context that this is likely to be as useless to you as a fish to a bicycle, though. :/
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So, who remembers me whining about disability stuff popping up in awkward places?

Well we've got a new one. New bus driver on the line I take to work. It gets pretty busy some days, which I understand. It's not terribly uncommon that I need to move away from the spot I board at because of someone's scent. It's never really been a huge issue.

Enter the new bus driver. For some reason she's decided that this is a disruptive behavior, trying to find a different spot on a crowded bus if I'm in a fairly clear one. And I'm not terribly inclined to announce on a crowded bus that someone's scent is bothering me.

I don't know how to solve this.
May I hug you? That last line went right to my heart.

Of course you are not inclined to announce your reason to need to move. That would indeed be disruptive, as well as mean. You are not like that.

But you need not offer any explanation at all. Just sincere apologies to those you must carefully push past. If the driver makes a big deal about it when no one else complains, then the driver is the disruptive one. If she continues, you might have to report her behavior.

I can understand how the driver might perceive you as a potential "problem". Given all that bus drivers have to cope with, I can see why she might be suspicious, even while I disagree with her actions.

One approach, therefore, might be to approach her as a potential ally. Board the bus, and say to her, "I know you've been wondering what my problem is, pushing around. I'm not trying to be a problem, but I do have a problem, and it would help me to stay near the front door." (Or whatever might be helpful to you.)

I do not know if this particular person can be approached this way, but I have used a tactic like this often in the past, and it can work.

You have other options. One might be to go ahead and get "official" status as handicapped (I hate that word and apologize for it). If you do this, you might consider buying a cane or walking stick, so as to have a visible "excuse" for sitting in the handicapped zone. That way you won't be called out by self-important (and potentially judgemental) drivers.

A third idea I have is to get one of those little air filters one wears around one's neck. They are designed for people with allergies who must ride on airplanes ... but it would work for you too. I cannot vouch for how well they work, or if it will be effective for you. Try
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Dang. Sorry about the back-to-back posts. This is why Monkey uses a white space at the bottom of her posts.

As I was about to say: try Brookstone, or Lillian Vernon, or any "sky mall" catalog . They tend to sell that kind of thing.

And good luck on the bus.

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