Players start with 15 AP and they accumulate AP each rollover according to their rank.
Players may only accumulate a maximum of 30 AP at any one time, any gained over this limit is lost.
Rollover occurs on Saturday at 12:00 pm EST.
Etiquette
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The objective of Lords of Creation is to allow the players to create a world for a playable campaign, while weaving an interesting and original story. It is important to understand that this is not a 'God Campaign' but a form of collaborative storytelling and world-building. If your objective is to create a god simply to show off how great you are at other players’ expense, then this is not the game for you.
1. Gods are not omnipotent.
While you are playing a deity, you should not forget that you are still one of many. There are limits on what a god is capable of.
2. Gods are not omniscient.
A deity is limited to what information they can gather through observation or intelligence, just as any powerful being. They are generally assumed to be able to be able find and observe anything on the Material that they wish, but they can still be surprised or caught unawares by things they aren’t paying attention to. A special note here is that things related to a god's domain allow them a vague and general sense of that element but not enough to gather specific details.
3. Godmodding is to be avoided
For those of you unfamiliar with the concept, godmodding is, in short, assuming control of another player's characters or creations. In a game of this scale, sometimes it can be impossible to entirely avoid godmodding, but it should be kept to a minimum whenever possible. Remember, planning ahead with other players is the best way to avoid godmodding!
4. You are not ‘invulnerable’.
Although many actions in LoC are unable to be completely destroyed by another, simply smugly saying “they get better” is not a means of making you invulnerable. All it does is alienate you from your fellow players and make them inclined to ignore you.
5. Consider your fellow players.
You are not the only person trying to establish characters and write a story – everyone has their own plots and plans. Interaction between players is actively encouraged, but simply harassing them is not. Just as ignoring a player’s attacks on your own creations is frowned upon, repeatedly assaulting a player’s creations with no real purpose other than to keep them from playing is griefing, and will not be tolerated.
6. Time is flexible
Time to a god's eyes is not the same as that of a mortal's eyes. In essence, there is no “standardized” timeline. Rollovers do not necessarily represent any specific span of time. There have been some instances where mere hours pass IC in one RL week and others where centuries pass in a single post. Stay flexible.
7. Communication, communication, communication!
You cannot be too open. The more you plan with other players, the smoother the game gets. Surprising people can be fun, but people can’t work with you if they don’t know what you’re up to. Using the OOC thread or other communication helps a lot.
8. Respect the MODs
The MODs of this LoC are here to help the players, not bully them. We oversee all the details it takes to keep this game running from maintaining the roster and world map to rules arbitration and catching cheaters. If we ask for your cooperation as MODs, please give it to us.
9. Keep the OOC clean
If you have an issue with something or someone, do not go to the OOC to cry/whine or make a big issue out of it. That's the whole reason the MODs were picked. To keep conflicts out of the OOC. They make the atmosphere oppressive, they make things less fun, and generally unpleasant and maybe even make the arguments larger than they need be. So if you do have a complaint, either PM the offending party or ask a MOD to mediate on the issue. If you have a problem with a MOD, or have a reason to distrust a MOD, simply send the message to another MOD.
10. Spoiler your Quotes!
Sometimes you can't help but quote another player's post, in these situations, we ask that you spoiler the Quoted parts, to make it easier for everyone to read.
Game Rules
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Most of the rules may be bypassed with the agreement of both parties. Sometimes dice just get in the way of the final epic duel.
1 - You can't do something huge to someone else's god without consent, or at least discussion. Examples would be killing another god, wiping out an entire civilization randomly, or otherwise tearing down the star of their work.
2 - Gods that slumber for millennia cease to exist – they become mere dreams and lore, stories that may have been. In game play terms that means that a God that is inactive for 3 weeks ceases to exist – yet everything that deity created remains to continue the story. Remaining gods may target the remaining creations without the absent player’s permission.
3 - Only Fledgling and Lesser Gods can walk the Plane, and only Fledgling, Lesser, Intermediate, and Greater Gods can influence the Material Plane. Elder Gods are so powerful that them trying to affect the material plane would be like a human trying to strip the electrons off an atom. Any god may take the Cloaked in Wanderlust ability to ignore this rule completely.
4 - We know we can't think of everything, so if you have an idea for a Relic, Artifact, Ability, Monument, or anything, that isn't covered by these rules, ask! And before you hand down a cosmic decree, if for any reason you think it MIGHT be controversial, or overpowered, or you are in general unsure... ASK A MOD!
5 - Godmodding is not allowed, however ironic it may seem. I define it as 'Acting as another character or his creations without permission, or otherwise doing something without letting the other characters at the scene react.
6 - A God may be in multiple places at once. To do this, they create a "Shard" of their own divinity, and send it off. A god may only have as many shards as his rank allows. 1 Shard for Fledgling, 2 for Lesser, 3 for Intermediate, 4 for Greater, and 5 for Elder. These shards are in addition to the god's original body.
7 - Gods do NOT know when another god uses their power unless the AP spent directly affects them or their creations. An exception to this rule is the Creation of a Plane, or a Cosmic Decree. Gods will automatically know when these happen.
If in doubt, ask a Mod.
Combat between Gods:
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At the beginning of the game gods permanently choose how to assign a total of 10 dice among 3 stats: attack, defense, Health. Each dice assigned to HP counts as 10 HP. You may not change this distribution, unless you have the protean lord ability. No god may have more than 25 Dice totaled among his or her Statistics.
When two or more gods clash, they roll d6's to determine how much damage they dish out, and how much they absorb. This is represented by Attack and Defense. Each god also has a limit to how much punishment it can take, this, is represented by Health.
The amount of dice by default is 10, though Relics, Monuments, and Abilities, can modify this number. For every point you put into Health, your god gains 10 "Health Points" for the fight. Every point you put into Attack or Defense, adds 1 more d6 to your Attack or Defense Pool. During each round of combat, you roll all of the dice for your attack and defense, and compare the numbers to your opponent's rolls. If you rolled more attack than they did defense, then their HP takes damage. Their is a 2 damage minimum.
Example: Cthulu is fighting Zeus. Zeus has 2 Relics, one of which has been Infused with a Vestige. Cthulu has 1 Relic, and "The Inconceivable" ability.
Zeus has 14 dice, so he puts 4 dice into Health, 5 into Attack, and 5 Into Defense. (so Zeus has 40 health, 5d6 attack and 5d6 Defense)
Cthulu has 11 Dice. He puts 4 into Health, 3 into Attack, and 5 Into Defense. (so Cthulu has 40 health, 3d6 attack and 5d6 Defense)
As the combat begins, Cthulu's "The Inconceivable" ability kicks in, reducing Zeus's defense by 2 Dice. (so Zeus has 40 health, 5d6 attack and 3d6 Defense)
Cthulu and Zeus then roll their attack and Defense. Zeus rolls 12 attack, and 4 Defense, while Cthulu rolls 6 attack and 15 Defense. Zeus's attack roll of 12 is completely blocked by Cthulu's defense roll of 15, but Cthulu still takes 2 damage because their is a 2 damage minimum. Zeus also takes 2 damage, because his 4 Defense is beaten by Cthulu's 6 attack by 2. Now Zeus is at 38 health, and Cthulu is at 38. The next round of combat can begin.
Multiple Combats
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In the case of two gods fighting one god, add all attack rolls together and compare them to the defense roll. The outnumbered god gets to choose who defends against his attacks.
Combat Between mortals:
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Mortals use different combat system than gods. And the two shall never meet, it is assumed that a god will automatically defeat a mortal.
Mortals simply use 1d10s, higher roll wins. Mortals add whatever modifier there is. Mortals may have a maximum modifier of +15.
Players participating in Mortal Conflicts may set a "Victory Number" if they wish for a battle to go on longer than one round. This means that to win the conflict, you must roll higher than your opponent a certain number of times.
Demigods:
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When demigods are battling mortals they have a +4 Combat bonus, but when they are combating gods treat them as if their base is 20 Health, 2d6 Attack, 2d6 Defense, plus any artifacts and relics.
Random Advice
Here are a couple tips that can help you get established in the game world and set you on the right track.
1. Simply by merit of your god’s origin, you should have a connection to at least one other deity in your progenitor. Not only is having an ally useful in game terms, but writing tends to be much easier with a partner (or enemy) or two.
2. Early on, be careful to set yourself up with something to do between rollovers. It is boring to end up blowing all your starting ap on something and then not being able to do stuff for a week. Try to create something permanent and lasting you can rp with in the mortal realm to combat this problem.
3. Don’t create too many Hero’s or mortal characters – it’s hard to keep track of them all and rp them as individuals.
Mystic on Curse Wars
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I think the problem is that people treat curse wars like this:
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1 AP: Make super healing plants.
2 AP: Kill all super healing plants.
3 AP: Recreate super healing plants.
4 AP: Kill all super healing plants.
5 AP: Recreate super healing plants.
When it should be treated like this:
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1 AP: Make super healing plants.
2 AP: Super healing plants are struck with a disease like real world plants and large cluster of them die because of lack of genetic diversity, now they only exists but far spread out, rarer and never in large clumps.
3 AP: Super healing plants emit an aura that make them easy to find.
4 AP: Plant poisonous plants around the world that emit the same aura, look the same and kill instantly, so a person looking for these plants will have to journey towards them but will never know if they will die or survive at the end of the journey.
5 AP: Create spirit guides that aren't an actual species but a manifestation of that super healing plant's benevolence, and like the will o' wisps in "Brave" they lead people away from the poisonous plants.
AP Actions
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1 AP Actions
-Alter Land: Alter land allows a god to change already existing landscapes. It can be used to create mountain ranges, vast forests, lakes, swamps, or any other kind of "land type" you could think of. Alter land can also be used to raise small chains of islands from the sea. These islands cannot be very big, but can be large enough to support a small kingdom. Think about the size of Hawaii.
- Bless/Curse: Blesses and Curses are the will of the gods made manifest. They can range from a golden age for an empire, or to increase the mortal population. The population that finds themselves under the pleasure of a god will find their crops prosperous and their ways smoothed, as the subtle magic of the god is worked in their favor, The population that finds themselves under the curse of a god will find their crops barren and their land blighted, as the subtle magic of the god works against them. . Blesses and Curses can be countered by other gods, however. Each time it is countered, it becomes harder and harder for the gods to exert their will over each other. A blessing or Curse only takes 1 AP to create, and 2 AP to counter, however, once countered, it takes 3 AP to reinstate the curse, and 4 AP to recounter it, and so on. You use Bless/Curse actions on societies or organization, not individuals.
- Censure/Praise: You use Censure/Praise actions on individuals or small groups of people not societies or whole organizations. Unlike Bless/Curse this action can be more severe, like turning someone to stone or bringing back one person back from the dead. A Censure/Praise only takes 1 AP to create, and 2 AP to counter, however, once countered, it takes 3 AP to reinstate the curse, and 4 AP to recounter it, and so on.
-Join Pantheon: Join Pantheon allows a god to enter into a divine covenant with a group of other gods. Doing so gives them 1 extra AP per week, and a bonus when fighting alongside another god in their pantheon (when you are fighting alongside a member of your pantheon you may add 1 dice to any power [hp, attack or defense]. Obviously this bonus doesn't apply if you are fighting someone from your own pantheon)
-Form Society: Form Society allows a god to organize life into grouping beyond simple hunter-gatherer tribes or wandering monsters. This action can be used to set up governments and armies, but not specific things like a mage's guild or an order of knights. (A well established army will obviously be better suited for a prolonged conflict than ill equipped savages. This is represented by the fact that Mortals in societies may use advanced concepts for combat. Mortals not in any society may not. A mortal may only be part of one society at any given time.
2 AP Actions
-Create Land: Create Land allows a god to create land where there is none. It can be used to raise a small continent from the sea, or create large, floating islands in a plane where there is no planet. Land created by Create Land can be up to the size of Australia.
-Form Order: Form Order allows a god to organize their followers into organizations similar to guilds. These orders can be such things as a Mage's Guild, or an Order of Knights, or even a Company of Mercenaries. Orders are different from Societies in that they can utilize magical as well as advanced concepts during combat.
-Raise Hero: Raise Hero allows a god to raise a mortal up to great heights. Heroes are paragons of their kind, mighty warlords, great mages, and master thieves. A Hero can utilize Fabled, Advanced, and Magical Concepts during combat, and are capable of wielding artifacts. A hero also has an automatic +1 bonus to combat
-Gather Pantheon: Pantheons are loose organizations of gods who have a common goal, purpose, or who just like each other. A god may create a pantheon with this action, and others may join the Pantheon using the Join Pantheon action. Members of a Pantheon gain 1 extra AP per three members per week, and a bonus to combat when fighting alongside a member of their pantheon.
-Alchemize New Concept: You may create a new concept out of previously created concepts YOU* created. You may pay 2 AP to combine any two concepts you made. The new concept would count as the lowest concept in the combination in terms of who may use it. For example if YOU* make tattooing as a mundane concept and YOU* make Elemental magic as a magical concept. To combine tattooing and elemental magic into Elemental tattooing you need to spend 6 AP (tattooing + elemental magic + Alchemize New Concept ), any races you control may use the concept of elemental tattooing now IF they can use a mundane concept. This combination must make thematic sense. You can Alchemize something like tribal rituals and pyromancy, but unless you are really good at explaining you can't Alchemize fishing and demonology. * You may treat concepts you have permission from the original owner to alchemize as if you created them for the purposes of this action.
3 AP Actions
-Weave Sanctum : You may create a location of divinity attuned to your god. This location may be anywhere. If it is not on the material plane, you need the permission of the master of the plane to use this action. Your seat of power may be a layer of a plane, or a simple foreboding castle. (A seat of power may be created for a Mortal). When you are within your sanctum you may add 1 dice to any power [hp, attack or defense]. If the sanctum is created for a mortal that mortal has +2 Combat bonus as long as he/she is within their sanctum.
-Scourge/Boon: Similar to bless/curse a Scourge/Boon creates a much more serious effect. One this is not subtle magic, it can be an instantaneous disease or a sudden resurrection of an entire group! If you blessing or curse is more serious than "Crops fail" or "My people become really good at using sword" it's probably a Scourge/Boon. An Scourge/Boon takes 3 AP to create, and 4 AP to counter, however, once countered, it takes 5 AP to reinstate, and 6 AP to recounter it, and so on. You use Scourge/Boon actions on societies or organization, not individuals.
- Exalt/Condemn:You use Exalt/Condemn actions on individuals or small groups of people not societies or whole organizations. The line between Exalt/Condemn and Censure/Praise is a thin one. Where Praise can bring a person back from the dead, Exalt can elevate someone to mastery over a whole species. Where Censure can strike one person dead, Condemn can wrap him in chains formed from the heart of a dying sun and drag him to the lowest pit in hell. A Exalt/Condemn only takes 3 AP to create, and 4 AP to counter, however, once countered, it takes 5 AP to reinstate the curse, and 6 AP to recounter it, and so on.
-Create Artifact: An artifact is a powerful item or tool. They are imbued with power beyond that of most mortal's imagining. Artifacts can do many things, from resurrecting the dead, to causing small earthquakes. Artifacts are the tools of Mighty Heroes. Gods cannot wield artifacts, the sheer force of divine power would crush an artifact within seconds. A mortal can claim an artifact for his/her own in a couple of ways. 1) it's presented to him by a god/mortal. 2) He engages in battle (combat or OoC predetermined) for it. A mortal or god may rend/modify an artifact in the following ways: 1) Destroying something is always easier than creating, for 2 AP a god may destroy an artifact in his possession (If you don't possess the artifact, refer to how to claim an artifact) 2) A god may modify an artifact in his possession for 1 AP, modification can alter a chalice of eternal life into instant death. An artifact may grant a mortal a +2 to combat. A mortal must be at least a Hero or of a Magical race to wield an artifact.
-Forge Land: Forge land represents a god laboring to create great swathes of land. Forge Land allows a god to create enormous continents, or even moons, for mortals to dwell upon. The amount of land created by Forge Land can be as much as North America, or Earth's Moon.
- Gain Domain: The Gain Domain action allows a god to gain an additional Domain and an accompanying Portfolio. The god must first have spent 7AP worth of AP on things related to the Domain they wish to gain. The Gain Domain action may never be used to qualify for a Domain, but any other action can be.
4 AP Actions
-Create Relic: Relics are powerful items that would destroy a mortal if they tried to use one. Only gods have the force of will to wield a Relic. Relics can do almost anything a god can imagine, and grant them bonuses to divine combat. A God can claim a Relic for his/her own in a couple of ways. 1) it's presented to him by another God. 2) He engages in battle (Combat or OoC predetermined) for it. A god may rend/modify a Relic in the following ways: 1) Destroying something is always easier than creating, for 3 AP a god may destroy an Relic in his possession (If you don't possess the Relic, refer to how to claim an Relic) 2) A god may modify an Relic in his possession for 2 AP, modification can alter the book of future possibilities into a book of past outcomes. The Creator of the Relic is immediately aware of it's destruction. Like an earthquake, energy from a relic sends shockwaves throughout the cosmos, and those attuned to them, such as the creator, or other gods who have previously wielded the relic for extended lengths of time, would feel it. A god may have a relic be a shield or a sword, a weapon or a piece of armor, as long as they are wielding the relic an add 1 dice to any power [hp, attack or defense] The bonus of a relic must be defined at the relics making. Unlike a sanctum you may not change what stat gets the bonus before combat, you must choose what stat gets the bonus when you create the relic.
-Raise Legend: A Legend is a mortal hero who has gone beyond the limits of mortality. They are truly unforgettable beings, who, even if they die, will live on forever in stories, not only on the mortal world, but throughout the universe. A Legend is powerful enough that it may, once per week, use a 1 AP Action. A Legend can utilize Legendary, Advanced, and Magical Concepts during combat, and are capable of wielding artifacts. A legend also has an automatic +2 bonus to combat.
5 AP Actions:
-Weave Plane: Weave Plane allows a god to create the fabric of their own reality. Planes are entire dimensions apart from the normal world, and can take any form a god can imagine. Hell, Heaven, or Limbo, are examples of planes. Weave Plane can also be used to create a brand new planet on the Material plane. When weaving a plane, the creating god must decide on any special features it has, such as accelerated time, or empowered magic. A god may also decide how many layers there are initially. This can vary from one, to thousands, though most planes have less than ten.Unlike a sanctum a god gets no special benefit for being within his or her own realm or plane.
-Beget Demigod: Demigods are the stuff of myths, they are mortals who have gone to such heights as to attain godhood. Demigods are truly epic in their power, capable of wielding relics, and holding their own against the very gods that birthed them. A Demigod unlike a Legend gains 1 AP each rollover, this AP accumulates. Demigod's also can actually harm a god, while heroes and legends may not. A Demigod can utilize Fabled, Advanced, and Magical Concepts during combat, and are capable of wielding artifacts. A Demigod also has an automatic +4 bonus to combat. If a demigod goes through combat against a deity treat the demigod as have 2 dice for each stat. Their power doesn't come close to rivaling the gods, but they might be able to hurt them, a demigod may be what is needed to turn the tide in a divine battle. the straw that breaks the Almighty's back
- Gain Ability: Your god gains one ability from the following list.
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Elemental Mastery - You become one with a certain element. That element may be a traditional one (Fire, water, air) or a more focused element (Death, Magma, Void). When you become one with an element it may effectively said that you ARE that element, that is that you may control that element as if were part of your form and function. The AP costs of Alter Land, Bless/Curse, or Censure/Praise actions involving this element are reduced by 1. You may take this ability multiple times, but you must always distinguish what element it is for: I.E you may take Elemental Mastery (Water) and Elementary Mastery (Acid).
Cloaked in Wanderlust - You are a god who enjoys travel and exploration. You wander both the mortal world and the planes beyond, always searching for a new sight to see. You can walk and influence the Mortal Plane regardless of your Divine Rank.
Herald of Life - Your god becomes life itself. This is not necessarily a good power. Instead it means your god is surrounded by life and mere presence nurtures it.Your god is a master at creating life. You thrive anywhere, and beings near you are filled with vigour. When you use the Create Life Action, you may subtract 1 AP from the cost. This means you can make monstrous and Mundane Life for free.
Source of Arcane - Instead of using Elemental Purity (Magic) this is what this ability is for. Your god becomes a source of magic; he or she becomes magic itself. Your god may make magical concepts for only 1 AP.
Bathed in Blood - Battle doesn't need a purpose; the battle is its own purpose. You don't ask why a plague spreads or a field burns. Don't ask why I fight, says your God. You live for battle and only battle; there is no larger goal that constant bloodshed. It is honor and horror, and it is good. Your god has 2 dice added to attack.
One with the Wild - Your god is almost a beast, you fight with tooth and nail, instead of sword and shield. Your god is powered through instinct rather than reason and strategy. Yet you are still a god, you keep your wits about you, yet as a divine beast you are filled with holy strength. Your god has 1 dice added to attack and 1 dice added to HP.
Formidable Artisan - Your god is a smith and an artist; you delight in creating great works – either crafting the perfect sword or the most beautiful necklace. Items that your god creates are unparallel compared to your kin. Artifacts, Relics and Monuments cost 1 AP less for you to create
Mortal Sheppard - Your god concerns himself in the affairs of mortals, more than the divine. You place great emphasis on controlling the actions of mortals either for their own good, or for your amusement. Create society, create organization and divine covenant actions cost 1 AP less for you. This does mean you can create societies for no AP.
Magnificent Hierophant - Your god places great emphasis on worship, your god wishes and wants for worship and organizes mortals to his own worship. This covenant gives your god power depending on the amount of people worshipping him/her/it. Your god may add 1 dice to any stat for each race he or she has a covenant with and 1 dice to any stat for each race he or she has given a divine mandate to.
Authoritative Adjudicator - Your god is a dispenser of justice both on the mortal realm and the divine. You are who the gods go to, to settle disputes. You are judge jury and when needed executioner. Sometimes negotiate and arbiter you carry great authority that is recognized by all the gods. Your god may add 3 dice to any stat if your god is the administrator of a pantheon
Knowledge Broker - Knowledge is power, and power has a price. Your god is not necessarily the embodiment of secrets or knowledge, but he comes close. Your god trades in information – this does not mean your god is omniscient however – unlike the Crystal seer, you are not scrying information – You instantly know everything that your mortal followers know. Thus your knowledge depends on how far you cast your net. Other gods don't know everything their mortal followers know unless they are told in one form or another.
Divine Beauty - “Beauty is truth, truth beauty— that is all Ye know on Earth, and all ye need to know.” If a god asks another god who is the most beautiful god, they cannot help but say you. Your god is beauty itself, and finds that most mortals would bow to your whim simply because they instinctively think you are so good, and even gods are charmed by your presence. Other gods lose 2 dice from their attack when fighting you. Some Gods, however, are so alien that beauty means nothing to them, gods with "The Inconceivable" ability are unaffected by Divine Beauty, and vice versa.
Crystal Seer - Gods are not omniscient, they cannot automatically see what happens outside their domain. But you are a seer, a being of such sight and vision that you can sense what is happening anywhere if you wish. Your god automatically knows when another god spends AP, unless 1 AP is spent to cloak the action from your Sight. A God with the "One With Shadows" ability does not need to spend AP to cloak his actions from your sight.
One with Shadows - You are a being of deceit, a God who's lot is to lie and deceive. Your actions are hidden from those who they don't affect. No God can automatically know about any AP you spend unless that AP affects them or their creations directly even then they won't know it was you who affected their creations, just that a god did.
Many Faced Trickster - You are a god with many faces. You disguise yourself easily, and even gods are fooled by your act. You can make yourself look, sound, and feel like any animate being. As long as you don't Spend more than 2 AP at a time while disguised, you will fool any god into thinking you are someone else.
Inconceivable - Your god is basically an eldritch horror. Mortals may not look upon your god without going mad. Even other gods struggle to look at you while retaining their sanity. All your creations are bizarre and alien. Every word written about you is locked away in fear of a poor soul going mad with the revelation. You are the Nemesis of Reason. You subtract 2 Dice from your Foe's defense during combat.
Mad Scientist - Your god views the world more of an experiment than anything else. Unlike Source of Arcane this ability is more like Elemental Purity (Science) if science could be considered an element. Your god believes in observation and experimentation, research and testing. You want to pioneer new ways, explore unknown powers, and unfold to the world the deepest mysteries of creation. Advanced concepts cost you no AP to create.
Lord of War - Unlike Bathed in blood, you do not live for battle, instead you are simply a god of war; this does not mean you are evil or good, instead this ability means that you are a master warrior, fantastic strategist, great commander and leader of men. You are a professional of combat, neither reveling in it nor shirking it. Your god may add 1 dice to attack and 1 dice to defense.
Prowess of the Paragon - Above Lord of war and Bathed in Blood, you have mastered a specific weapon. Any weapon, bow or sword, scythe or shield, knife or poison, gauntlet or staff, paper fan or whip; your mastery is up to the point that when equipped with that chosen weapon of yours your combat prowess is to such a point that even gods tell each other legends of it. While wielding your chosen weapon, which must be a Relic, your god may add 3 dice to any stat. If for any reason you are unable to wield your chosen Relic, you loose this bonus. You may take this ability multiple times, but you must always distinguish what weapon it is for: I.E you may take Prowess of the Paragon (Axe) and Prowess of the Paragon (shield).
Immovable Object - You are a god of immovable stoicism. You never back down, even in the face of overwhelming odds. For another god to wound you requires much more effort on their part. your skin is like steel, and your will like stone. You add 2 dice to Defense during combat.
Protean Lord - instead of Elemental Purity (Chaos) you use this ability. Your power comes from the ever mutable and constantly changing chaos from which the world was formed. You are difficult to predict in combat and wild, unfettered creator. You may constantly rearrange your dice pools after combat is declared.
Tyrant Above All - Your god is a champion of conquest and control. His or her mortal worshippers benefit from your blessings in their quest to gain control of the world, just as you seek dominion over the heavens. Your god can ignore any "Home Turf" bonuses that would apply when attacking another Deity. Any races you have a covenant with or organizations you have a mandate with have +1 to combat
Grand Destroyer - You are the embodiment of destruction, the great unmaker of all things. Although most likely to be considered an evil god, your purpose is necessary to creation. Things must be destroyed so that new things may arise. Your Curses and Censures are stronger than most gods, It takes 2 extra AP to break a Curse or Censure you cast.
Holy Benefactor - You are a god of holy power. Your will is manifest in the strength it gives those around you. Your purpose is to create and reinforce, to protect the universe from the crushing effects of darkness. Your Blesses and Praises are stronger than most gods, it takes 2 extra AP to break a Bless or Praise you cast.
Kingmaker - You are known for inspiring mortals to great heights. Many a hero owes their life to you, and many a king their crown. You are capable of easily elevating a mortal to legend, and do so often. You may use the Raise Hero action for 1 AP, and the Raise Legend Action for 3 AP.
Fount of Vigor - Your god is the source of divinity itself - you course with divine power and are enriched by it, your life force eclipses those of other gods. You may add 20 HP (2 dice) to your HP.
- Divine Mandate: Heaven or Hell decrees the authority of an organization to the world. The organization becomes the regents of their god's domain. An Organization under a divine mandate may use their worship to use, once per week, a 1 AP Action. (Think inquisition torturing a select group of people [using a censure action once per week] or a church generally giving out small blessings around the country side [using a bless action once per week])(Members of an organization that are under a divine mandate have an additional +2 combat bonus as well as the ability to now use legendary concepts)
- Infuse Vestige: Your deity tears off a piece of their soul, their divine spark, and traps it and encases it in an artifact, relic or monument. Their divinity empowers the Vestige to greater heights of power (Bonus TBD). The Vestige may also become self-aware! Infusing a relic will double the relics current bonus. Same thing for an artifact or a monument. (i.e a relic will give a god +2d6, an artifact will give a mortal +4 combat bonus and a monument will give a god +4d6) An example of an Infused Artifact would be a Horcrux, which stores part of the maker's soul.
- Divine Covenant: Your deity makes a sacred covenant with a certain race. The god takes the race under his metaphorical wing, while the race begins to exclusively worship that said god. This is more than simply presiding over that race.., that race takes on some of your gods characteristics and your god takes some of theirs. Adverse AP actions by other gods over a member or members of a presided race cost 1 AP more. Individuals or certain groups of the race can break this covenant and if so, they are no longer under the protection of their god. Think In D&D with the Always Chaotic Evil, Lolth Worshipping Drow; Drizzt became a Chaotic Good Hero who reviled his society and slew his former brethren. (Members of a race that are under a divine covenant have an additional +2 combat bonus as well as the ability to use any concept)
-Forge Monument: Monuments are truly wondrous things, objects that the God's themselves find hard to control. A monument is similar to a relic in that it can do almost anything, however, monuments are colossal things, with so much power than they cannot be contained by a single god. A Monument can take almost any form, from enormous otherworldly forges that churn out monstrous siege engines, to a prison meant to contain an entire race of demons. Monuments cannot be moved, and are nearly impossible to destroy.A God can claim a monument for his/her own in a couple of ways. 1) it's presented to him by another God. 2) He engages in battle (Combat or OoC predetermined) for it. 3) Since monuments are stable and unmoving, the creator of a monument may not always be around, A god may master an abandoned or unprotected momentum for 6 AP. Another god may "counter", with 7 AP to remaster, and so on. God's may not modify or Rend Monuments. A god may have a Monument act like a shield or a sword, a weapon or a piece of armor (obviously unlike a relic a monument is stationery and can't actually be a sword or a shield but instead must be more like a prison or a obelisk of power) as long as they are masters of the monument they may add 2 dice to any power [hp, attack or defense] The bonus of a monument must be defined at the monument making. Unlike a sanctum you may not change what stat gets the bonus before combat, you must choose what stat gets the bonus when you create the relic.
- Cosmic Decree: Cosmic Decree allows the gods to say something about the universe, and have it be true. These things are the things about Reality that just ARE. You can use Cosmic Decree to say that all Teleportation, no matter what source, touches upon a certain plane, even if only for a split second. You could decree that all living things have immortal souls. You could say what happens after death, perhaps there is an afterlife, or maybe death is truly the end, and nothing exists afterwards for mortal beings. You can decide that gravity doesn't exist or that it works in reverse. You may decide that Karma is an actual thing and that the universe truly does reward the good and punish the wicked as a simple FACT. A god may only use a Cosmic Decree action depending on their rank, refer to the chart on divine ranks. Other gods MAY NOT challenge your cosmic decree, unless they make a decree themselves, BUT ANY god may allow their creations to escape a specific Cosmic Decree by using a Scourge/Boon action. A god may rescind a Cosmic Decree they announced at any time for free, but they must spend 5 AP to regain the use of that Cosmic Decree.
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Xulos (Lesser) hands down his first cosmic decree (5 AP) grabbing every soul ever and taking them to hell. Zalsaram (Fledgling) uses a boon action (3 AP) to make it so that every mortal under his control goes to heaven. End result: Every mortal who is not under Zalsaram's control goes to hell, every mortal under Zalsaram's control goes to Heaven. Xulos may not use a cosmic decree again until he ascends.
Isanloff (Greater) hands down his first cosmic decree (5AP) creating Karma. Kiloasa (Fledgling) responds by using his one and only Cosmic Decree obliterating Karma (5AP). Isanloff uses his second Cosmic decree (5AP) to reinstate Karma (5AP). Kiloasa responds by giving all mortals under his control a boon action (3 AP) saying they do not fall under Karma. End result both Isanloff and Kiloasa can't use a cosmic decree again until they ascend. All mortals except those under Kiloasa's control are guided by Karma.
Variable AP Actions
-Create Life:
Life is defined here as anything animate that can act of it's own, or a god's will. Humans, Golems, and Undead, all fall under this category. There are Five kinds of life
- Mundane monstrous life Life 1 AP: You create non-Sentient Animals (bugs, germs, gerbils) (you may use this action for free any amount of times when you use a create land action or an alter land action.)
- Monstrous life 1 AP: non-sentient monsters Giant Spiders, Dire Animals, Purple Worms, or hell, Dinosaurs. You can't use an alter land action/create land action and make monstrous life. So while you can use alter land to make a land full of honey and bees without a mundane life action, you can't make Jurassic park with dinosaurs with just an alter or create land action. Monstrous life has a +1 bonus to combat
- Sentient Life 2AP: Of any type of life that is roughly equal to a human sapience. Sentient Life does not have a bonus for combat, but they have the ability to use any mundane concepts unlike monstrous life
- Greater Life 3 AP: such as Giants or Fey Greater Life has a +1 bonus to combat, and they have the ability to use any magical or advanced concepts without needing to be part of a society or organization or be a hero or legend
- Legendary life 5AP: such as Dragons, Greater Demons, Powerful Angels, Titans, or other blatantly supernatural and extremely powerful beings. Legendary Life has a +3 bonus to combat, and they have the ability to use any concept without needing to be part of a society or organization or be a hero or legend
-Create Concept:
You may grant any race or organization you control any concept you create or Alchemize. If you want to give your creations a concept that was created by another deity, or use another concept to Alchemize with your own, you must engage that deity in combat.
-Mundane 1AP:Non-military Concepts that would have been easily found in ancient rome or greece. Blacksmithing, Literature, Sculpture, and Architecture are examples of Mundane Concepts. A Sentient Race means that they are able to produce their own shelter. Whether that be crude huts, caves, or tents. Societies would get slightly better quality buildings. Wooden houses, fences, the rare and crude stone fort. Architecture as a Concept would allow for more exotic buildings. Stone Castles, Pyramids, and others. Think of Architecture as a concept representing a society's signature building designs. Aztec, British, Gothic, those are all kinds of architecture found in the real world.
- Advanced 2AP : Advanced concepts are technological marvels that revolutionize the way a society works. Things such as engineering, Gunpowder, Steam Power, and Plumbing, are Advanced Concepts. Military concepts such as armies, sword fighting, martial arts, dueling, archery, discipline would be advanced concepts. Any Society created can have a military if the creator wishes. Whether this is more like a militia, or the society is more like vikings in that the "warrior" is the default job. Advanced concepts for armies would represent structuring and training beyond giving your capable men and women a spear and leather jerkin. Steam Punk no matter how advanced would always be advanced not magical - so have fun with your dirigibles (Same goes for each other punk variant, such as clockpunk, biopunk, cowpunk. EXCEPT for cyber punk - that will be a legendary concept). Advanced Concept can add +1 to mortal combat
- Magical 3 AP: Magical Concepts are ways of using power that allow the wielder to accomplish great things. Pyromancy, Necromancy, Abjuration, Healing these are all Magical concepts. So, think of Legendary Concepts as the broadest sense of magic, and Magical Concepts are focused schools of it. Super advanced materials are also magical concepts, if your race works with Adamantium, Octiron, or Orichalcum, then it will be a magical concept not an advanced concept. Magical Concept may add up to +2 to mortal combat
-Legendary 5 AP : Like Magical Concepts, Legendary Concepts are far from mundane. However, unlike Magical Concepts, Legendary Concepts are more than ways to use power. They are power itself. Arcane Magic, Nuclear energy, or Divine Magic, Immortal Souls, Afterlife are examples of Legendary Concepts. These are ideas with such scope that they could be used to do almost anything. Legendary Concepts may add up to +4 to mortal combat
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Creation: "Upon the Prime Material world, there is only one true race, the Humans. The wilds may hold monsters, and the agents of the divine may visit from time to time, but all other races are condemned to the other planes. No race higher than or equal to Sentient Life may permanently reside in the material plane, other than Humans."
Slovien: Whenever a mortal, any mortal dies, their souless body will rise up again as either a skeleton or zombie and attack any living human.
Tarvin:"So long as my throne sits in the sky, the dead shall not rise. They are a displeasure to my eyes, and so my light shall strike their unlife from them should they come into my sight, and their bodies shall lie still evermore. No creature of Slovien's make may exist in the light. A mortal who dies in the light shall remain dead, and a creature of undeath who enters the light shall burn until they are naught but ashes. They are the get of darkness, and in the darkness they shall remain, or perish. So says Tarvin, King of Light."
I, Vintra, The Queen of Winter and Aurora, declare, what follows: All living, sentient creatures have eternal souls; Soul last after death of body, travel to Aurora and is judged by Me; Good souls live enjoyable alterlife in reward of their deeds; Bad souls are tormented by cold, wind and visions of sins they did on Material Plane; Good souls are unbeaten, there are no power in Universe to do them any harm and even I cannot do so; Bad souls cannot be tortured by other gods or beings, only own's sins and nature of Aurora can affect them. By my own powers, be done.”
Drexoroth : All humans who wish to become amphibians must set foot in the ocean and will be tranformed into amphibious merfolk (not quite merfolk), they will grow both gills and webbed feet, so that they may live their lives in the ocean or on land. Once they have become amphibians, they may not change back, but they do not have to spend their lives in the water
Kargath The Stoneborn: Any human willing to fight and become stronger can start worshiping at the Obsidian Anchor. Doing so slowly replaces their flesh with living stone and they automatically learn the concept of forging weapons (blacksmithing).
Owl: "All magic of the mortal world is bound to the Word, whether spoken or written."
Suloea looks and judges mortal men from the eyes of birds. When they pass they come before the Flock for judgement. Those that uphold the virtues of generosity; hospitality; reciprocity; nobility; civility and everlasting respect and love for Birds are deemed worthy. Those who fall short of these lofty goals or those who kill a bird needlessly are judged unworthy and fall to the third layer of Aurora. Those who are judged fitting, may choose to either be reborn as a bird or live on the first layer of Aurora. Even if they do live in Aurora they may choose to be reborn by going to the brumal hollow. Suloea is the one who judges where a man is destined after his death.
List of Planes
The Material Plane, composed of Earth, Sky, Sea and Darkness. It is the center of creation and is the most divine plane. Due to the arrival of Nordul each region of the the material plane now contains a significant forest, Vines filled with helium reach into the sky, Kelp forests grow underwater, weird crystalline forest flourish under the earth, and on earth itself all types of forests now exist. Not just forest a whole plethora of many different and varied environments and habitats
The City of Man: Urs Ignatus took his bricks and his clay and his iron and steel and stone and constructed great, weaving towers and bridges and tunnels, a magnificent gleaming city made of sandstone and white marble and patterned green granite, with fanciful steel plates waiting to be engraved with great histories. He spread floors with jade tiles and roads with beautiful wrought iron lamp posts, and domed roofs made out of stone and steel.
The Great Library is both a building in the City of Man and Owl's personal rook. It is a great tower, filled with many empty rooms, waiting to be filled with mortal knowledge. The highest point is a great aviary, where Owl and other gods may visit, but is mostly kept locked to mortals.
The Feathered Throne. A great mountain existing on the opposite side of the world from where the City of Man lies. The Feathered throne is the natural nesting place of every species of bird in the world. At it's pinnacle is a large nest made out of the feathers of every bird species in the world - in that nest is the eldest Roc. The mountain itself isn't anything special - it is not the tallest, nor is it like a needle piercing the sky. It is merely the home of the birds. Most birds including the Roc, do not hunt or kill each other while on the Feathered Throne
The Wellspring of Horrors: The convergence of the rivers of rage (These rivers always run in one direction, from the entrance to the exit on the other side of the Earth, varying from massive kilometer long channels digging deep into the ground to tiny rivers a rabbit can jump without getting their feet wet. Nothing can prevent or divert their path, they attempt to cut or sweep away any diversion or build up and overflow above the obstruction if made of something impossible to wear away from the cutting force of water) It is the Wellspring of Horrors that the Horrors of Fear, Sadness, Calm, Envy and Surprise are born
Aurora, the winter dominium, is a place of final rest. Aurora is consisted from 3 layers. First layer is a winter paradise for good persons, who enjoy eternity of peace as a reward for their deeds. Second layer is a beautiful, icy landscape, a pure work of Vintra's artistic sence. Third layer is a dark, snowed in forest, where souls of sinners are tormented by cold winds, whispering past mistakes and cruelities to them.
The Brumal Hollow. A large grove of trees, that exists on the first layer of the wintery domain, all dead and hollowed out, provide a natural home for all the Owls that live in Aurora. Other birds venture there as well. On this plane the Owls do not need to hunt or eat since this plane only houses birds and souls. Perhaps in the future - a soul may come to the hollow to beg an audience of the Flock and with proper curtsies may receive what they seek.
Dinfale's World The king of the earth crafted a new world next to the first while weaving a veil into place to keep the two separate, though close. This new world was one of cloud and rock, water and metal. And it stretched quite a ways, though the only truly place of any noteworthiness was at it's epicenter where a great mountain rose up above every other place on the world.
The meeting place of the first ones: Dinfale also moved the meeting place of the gods created by the unspoken one, to this plane
The Endless City-This is a city that stretches as far as the eye can see in every direction, even up and down. Buildings hide in the corner of the observer's eye until they are focused on, making one feel like the city is a great sphere that uncurls itself as it is walked through. Buildings made of every material hold all the inventions yet made by human kind, and have room for countless more to come. The sky is a giant jade and marble green cloudy expanse filled with brightly glowing lanterns made of shining precious metals.
The Realm of the Corruption Lord: This realm exist in the mind of mortal men who have has some of the black blood. It is literally formed from their collective conscience. Physical beings and locations - are only physical because visitors to the realm think they exist: notable locations are the Bone Fortress and Death Valley, which form the "physical" entrance to the inner layer. The inner layer forms itself from the will of the beings that gain entrance, though only a small part of it will change depending on who enters it. Meaning while the whole realm exists in the mind of all infected by the black blood, the inner layer exists in the minds of all those who are literately within the inner realm. (EX: A man might be able to morph a half of a mile of it, while a god would be able to morph something akin to South America. That is, if another will is not opposing the transformation.)
The Monuments of the gods
THE SUN:A shard of Tarvin's divine fire that has been placed in the sky, The Sun is Tarvin's place of governance. A throne of purest gold, from here Tarvin may watch the goings on of the mortal world at his pleasure. His mighty light shines down upon the world, until his throne travels beyond the horizon, to meet with his sister each night in the cold, crystaline world of Aurora. Even when Tarvin does not sit upon his throne, still he watches. At any time, Tarvin may spare a small bit of his consciousness to sit in the Sun and act as his eyes. By this, Tarvin is aware of all which occurs upon the surface of the world in the day-though beneath the waves, and within the dark corridors of the Underdark, his sight cannot reach, and at night, his eyes are taken from him.
Much like the Sun, THE MOON allows Slovien to see anywhere where there is darkness or moonlight, but not when there is sunlight.
Holy relics
Dinfale's staff has within it the most powerful teleportation spell in existence: Rapture. This spell is capable of moving vast (or small) quantities of just about anything, any distance, even across planes; and all this within the blink of an eye.
Helmet of the Clouds: (+1 dice to defense) Dinfale shaped metal into what at first resembled a deep bowl. Carefully molding it, he finished shaping the golden helmet. Dinfale then took a smaller piece of metal and made a crest on the front, two wings coming off of a tall cumulonimbus cloud with lightning striking downwards underneath the cloud. Dinfale gave this Helmet to Owl as a gift
Sacrosanct Artifacts
The Obsidian Anchor, the lands surrounding the Anchor can not be changed or teleported except by Kargath and those with the Earth Domain. If so teleported, the Anchor and the lands stick together and disappear as a whole.
Armor of the White Wallis an item Nordul decided to create through a skilled mortal craftsman, the Armor of the White Wall provides the wearer (The White Wall currently ) protection no mere suit of armor could. It is also enchanted so that it will always end up in the hands of those who seek to bring justice and protect those who can't protect themselves from some dire threat or anothe
Divine Covenants
Aeolus has taken some human children and crafted them into Aeolians - Half-human half-griffon hybrids. He then made a sacred vow to them, and started to resemble them. They are under the divine protection of his word.
Legendary Concepts:
Afterlife. Every sentient creature last eternally after the death of physical body.
Black Blood - This was originally a few infected cells that did not make it to the birth of Infernique and was soon devoured by Norx. Black blood reworks the system of the host into a more powerful form, gives the host regenerative powers, and forms new bones and organs as needed, not effected by age or diseases, and other minor advantages. Beings that have Black blood in them can sense one another, and can control weaker willed Black Blood members. The downside is that it provides a direct link to Infernique, who can directly interact with the cells inside of the being. Because of this, any of get infected with black blood soon fall in line with his plans or be driven mad through his actions.
Abilities Gained by the Gods
Tarvin has the Divine Beauty Ability, represented by the glowing crown he wears.
Suloea is composed of basically every bird in existence thus she has the Inconceivable ability. She is a great flock - all of the birds are part of her and are her. Even for a god it is hard to make sense of, as so she is hard to understand and is inconceivable in that respect.
The Owl gains the ability Source of Arcane. Thus she is a being of magic, made of magic and is magic and magic flows from her as breath would from living human.
Nordul embodies a massive amount of life in the realms. He is basically a living forest and as such, he has close ties to creation magic and is a Herald of Life
Infernique is darkness and corruption - the creeping plague of death and thus has the ability One with Shadows.
The Flock (Suloea) sees and hears and knows everything any bird knows and thus is a Knowledge Broker. In the night from the eyes of owls and nighthawks, in the day underneath the wings of Rocs and eagles. Across planes in Aurora, the afterlife, where winter birds sat court - and even among the empty streets of the endless city. Under the eyes of birds, everything was seen and judged.
Dinfale is the traveling king, the wandering god and thus has the Wanderlust ability.
Chosen Heros
Norx - a puppet of Infernique
Favored Legends
The Whirlwind King - The ruler of the seas and leader of the Free Captains of pirate city
The White Wall is a man who shall go on to inspire many, but is a mortal man like any other. The mantle shall be passed down generations to the person who seeks to protect humanity the most, creating a mythos of an immortal hero fighting monsters that would fell anyone else, braving the depths of the world, and hopefully providing a foil to some of the more villainous chosen later.
EDIT: @Lizard Lord: Slovien is approved.
EDITEDIT: @Lizard Lord: How would you consider changing to an evil alignment? Does this conflict with the general feel of the god that you hope to achieve? I ask this because our currently skewed in the good axis. Pretty good balance in the Chaos/Law department, though.
I suppose I could do that. I can have him not actually care if people get hurt by pranks caused or endorsed by him and re-fluff his reasons for bringing the spirits of the dead to the mortal world as just scaring people and getting revenge.
Edit: Also did you forget to add me to the list?
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I agree with Byrn that It might be good NOT to have the fae royalty be the original four gods and instead be twins born to the god of the Underdark. Both Vintra and Tarvin are Approved as Princess and Princess of the the Underdark. Urs Ignatus will create you both. Obviously your characters ma still call themselves kings and queens
Personally, I prefer the option with star-born gods (I thought Underworld is THE Underworld, so I am not so sure if this "region" have any sense now), but eventually it doesn't matter so much. I don't know the vision of THEChanger...
Hmmm...well, it would kinda make sense for Dinfale to make Nordul. It be an "easy" way for him to give a gift to mankind. Kargath on the other hand would not make as much sense. Strife is the very opposite of harmony within relationships...though I suppose he could be Dinfale's worst mistake. However, I'd rather not have anyone feel as if their characters have to have Dinfale as their progenitor. It is really only if they want to...
As to Necron's Unspoken having the domain magic (arcane) and it being too large, what if he limited it to being magic (arcane "source" [mana comes to mind, though it doesn't necessarily need to be this])? He'd probably need to create the concept of mana being the source of arcane magic, and it's still somewhat vague, but it's a little bit more specific than the entirety of arcane magic. Alternatively he could choose one of the traditional seven schools (universal, at least in dnd and pathfinder, doesn't really have enough spells to be considered it's own school, imo) to be his portfolio. Personally I'm hoping to get conjuration and/or transmutation myself...in any case, I thought I'd throw those ideas out to see if maybe they might help.
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Just in case it's necessary to choose a speaking color, I'm calling dibs on DarkOliveGreen, because I imagine the bricks that make up Urs Ignatus's 'mortal interaction' form to be sorta greenish-brownish and covered in moss.
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Well what about Arcane Magic (Truenaming)?
It's a lot more specific and fits with the whole "My name is the ritual to Uncreate all Creation"
Although Can I point out that that Holy S*** That's A Big Owl () has Knowledge (Magic), something quite a bit broader than Magic (Arcane)
Also why is The Unspoken not Lord of Seas? He was kicked out by one of our 3 or 4 trickster gods
It kind of clashes with my concept to not be one of Creation's original 4 because being an Unknowable Horror lurking in the deepest depths of the Sea that when seen drives people totally insane and thus has to make an Avatar of himself to communicate.
EDIT: Also The Arcane Horror of the Deep isn't in the character list in the 2nd post
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Personally, I prefer the option with star-born gods (I thought Underworld is THE Underworld, so I am not so sure if this "region" have any sense now), but eventually it doesn't matter so much. I don't know the vision of THEChanger...
THEChanger, whatdaya think? :-P
I don't mind being made from stars. I was also under the impression that the Underworld was the Afterlife, and if Vintra isn't ruling one of the big four regions, Tarvin doesn't have to either.
Means we get to make our own. Hmmm, what would Tarvin have to counteract the cold winter wonderland of Vintra...Perhaps a lush jungle/forest where dreams dwell...
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@Necron: Your character isn't necessarily not the King of the Seas. One of the tricksters "became" "Prince of the Seas." In truth Byrn said that he didn't really like how Mystic was ordering all of the "newer" gods underneath the "original four." So, really, if anything it's just a title.
And oh, nice one with the domain Arcane Magic (true naming) . Lol, that's so obvious I don't know why I didn't think of it.
Hmmm...well, personally I'd prefer everyone to just learn how to write clearly and concisely. However, if I must pick a speaking color, this is probably what I'd like to use.
Characters need two moderator approvals before they are added to the list. Note that mine and Mystic's deities are also missing (you can't go around approving yourself, that's not fair ). Those in the list have been approved by myself and mystic, explicitly.
@necron, If you feel that mine is too broad a scope, I can change it to something else as well (especially with another deity of magic being around). I actually think that inversing the domain/portfolio would speak better to my own aims. Otherwise, I feel like Arcane Magic (Truenaming) is more suitable, if not a little too specific. I suppose really my true complaint is that I wish to avoid future OOC conflict between our magicking. I would certainly be more willing to cooperate with your broader domain/portfolio if we agree upon a single, unified magic.
@thattaman, seeing as we need the support, I approve of your moderator request. I personally don't know of you or your history, so I'll readily admit my hesitancy. I really can't see you messing anything up, though.
@mystic1111, designer veto. If nothing else than against those atrocious indents.
@all, Are we agreeing upon my proposal for the original gods? If so, all other gods need to find a progenitor before play.
I'm not entirely sure I know what your proposal is. Correct me if I'm wrong: the eight characters listed in the table at the beginning of this thread will all have "the Creation" as their progenitor. The four characters that Mystic chose within the recruitment thread would be the "overseers", or what have you, of the "lands" earth, underdark, sky, and sea. Am I missing anything? If I'm not, then yeah, that's fine with me. If I am, I withhold my judgement until I know what is being proposed.
Characters need two moderator approvals before they are added to the list. Note that mine and Mystic's deities are also missing (you can't go around approving yourself, that's not fair ). Those in the list have been approved by myself and mystic, explicitly.
@necron, If you feel that mine is too broad a scope, I can change it to something else as well (especially with another deity of magic being around). I actually think that inverting the domain/portfolio would speak better to my own aims. Otherwise, I feel like Arcane Magic (Truenaming) is more suitable, if not a little too specific. I suppose really my true complaint is that I wish to avoid future OOC conflict between our magicking. I would certainly be more willing to cooperate with your broader domain/portfolio if we agree upon a single, unified magic.
Ahh ok, I thought I had two mod approvals.
Speaking of, can I apply to be a Mod? Then I can approve both yours and Mystic's Gods.
I do feel that having Magic as a whole is a bit too broad, especially if people are complaining about Arcane Magic (which is by definition smaller than all magic) being too general.
Magic (Knowledge) or Knowledge (*Specific Magic*) or maybe even Knowledge (Esoteric)?
Esoteric means you can lay claim to some of the more ritualized magiks and fitting the "seeker of knowledge" thing you seem to have going.
What are your ideas for the Magic?
Mine is a more on-the-spot verbal-only Magic, though that does not preclude other somatic or longer ritualized magics outside the Arcane Truenaming Domain/Portfolio
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Basically everything has a Name, this encompasses all their traits in a general way but the more complex the thing the longer the name (hence the immense Name of Creation that would be the one and only Truenaming Ritual if only in sheer length).
You Speak the Name of a thing, followed by what you want to happen. For instance "Dave Smith, father, son, craftsman, greedy, honor-bound, husband etc. Finishname. Immolate"
Dave Smith spontaneously combusts (lights on fire)
Thats been translated to English though, the Name of Dave would be a lot shorter to say in Truename but mean the same thing.
Everything, group, concept, being, object has a Truename. This IS that thing in verbal form.
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If you want I can be your second mod. Been playing a couple LoCs before even one with Mystic (Bonduar the Blacksmith god remember?). Got plenty of time on my hands to do so.
hmm alright then Suloea, Contessa of Wings will always refer to herself in the plural. I like speech quirks .
Anyway which god needs a second approval outside bryn and I?
I would like for you to take a look at mine if you could. Thank you. If you feel you can't approve it, let me know what you think so I can make appropriate changes.
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My proposal was for mine to be (Sky), Dinfale to be (Earth), Urs Ignatus to be (Underdark), and the Unspoken to be (Sea). Only those four will be made by "creation" and the rest will have to be spawned by previously existing deities.
Ahh ok, I thought I had two mod approvals.
Speaking of, can I apply to be a Mod? Then I can approve both yours and Mystic's Gods.
I have approved Thattaman as moderator, and for now I think three is enough. If this increases in population (or proves to difficult to manage for three), however, I will add you on.
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I do feel that having Magic as a whole is a bit too broad, especially if people are complaining about Arcane Magic (which is by definition smaller than all magic) being too general.
Magic (Knowledge) or Knowledge (*Specific Magic*) or maybe even Knowledge (Esoteric)?
Esoteric means you can lay claim to some of the more ritualized magiks and fitting the "seeker of knowledge" thing you seem to have going.
I think Knowledge (Esoteric) suits my god more, I agree. Editted.
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Originally Posted by Anecronwashere
What are your ideas for the Magic?
Mine is a more on-the-spot verbal-only Magic, though that does not preclude other somatic or longer ritualized magics outside the Arcane Truenaming Domain/Portfolio
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Basically everything has a Name, this encompasses all their traits in a general way but the more complex the thing the longer the name (hence the immense Name of Creation that would be the one and only Truenaming Ritual if only in sheer length).
You Speak the Name of a thing, followed by what you want to happen. For instance "Dave Smith, father, son, craftsman, greedy, honor-bound, husband etc. Finishname. Immolate"
Dave Smith spontaneously combusts (lights on fire)
Thats been translated to English though, the Name of Dave would be a lot shorter to say in Truename but mean the same thing.
Everything, group, concept, being, object has a Truename. This IS that thing in verbal form.
I've always really taken issue to the idea of Truenames. It's just one of those things that, personally, don't work for me. But I'm not going to say no just because of a personal prejudice.
What I would vastly prefer, however, is that instead of Truenames, you're just verbalizing your will to change the universe to match that will.
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I had a thought. If you take over Verbal magic, why not I take Somatic? I was thinking of unique forms for somatic, and came to dance. Why not instead of speaking, your magic comes from singing?
Dangit! sigh, lol, I really need to learn not to plan too far in advance...
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I was planning on having Dinfale be the originator of magical music, had some (extremely) vague ideas about a bard. Meh, I suppose I could still aim for the domain Music (instruments) even without the magical aspect. That is, of course, assuming that Necron wants to have Magic (music) be his domain. The whole thing with truenames makes a little bit more sense, though. Despite that, it doesn't necessarily prevent you from taking Magic (somatic) as a domain, Byrn.
@Necron: As to truenaming...you might want to be careful with the class. Truenaming is really easy to get carried away with since it generally is taken as if you manage to speak the truename of something, you have complete and utter power over it. Personally I think that Patrick Rothfuss does a really good job with the concept. Even the strongest "good" person when it comes to naming still seems to struggle somewhat. So in that aspect there's a certain amount of knowledge/groking (for lack of a better term) that has to be known. Another aspect you could have within the concept is that of authority. While person A might really, really grasp the knowledge of the truename of fire, person B has much more authority over that truename. That diversity could theoretically give you the difference between "arcane" and "divine" truenaming. In any case, it's all just a few ideas I thought I would toss out there in case you might like one. If you don't, feel welcome to ignore it.
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Dangit! sigh, lol, I really need to learn not to plan too far in advance...
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I was planning on having Dinfale be the originator of magical music, had some (extremely) vague ideas about a bard. Meh, I suppose I could still aim for the domain Music (instruments) even without the magical aspect. That is, of course, assuming that Necron wants to have Magic (music) be his domain. The whole thing with truenames makes a little bit more sense, though. Despite that, it doesn't necessarily prevent you from taking Magic (somatic) as a domain, Byrn.
@Necron: As to truenaming...you might want to be careful with the class. Truenaming is really easy to get carried away with since it generally is taken as if you manage to speak the truename of something, you have complete and utter power over it. Personally I think that Patrick Rothfuss does a really good job with the concept. Even the strongest "good" person when it comes to naming still seems to struggle somewhat. So in that aspect there's a certain amount of knowledge/groking (for lack of a better term) that has to be known. Another aspect you could have within the concept is that of authority. While person A might really, really grasp the knowledge of the truename of fire, person B has much more authority over that truename. That diversity could theoretically give you the difference between "arcane" and "divine" truenaming. In any case, it's all just a few ideas I thought I would toss out there in case you might like one. If you don't, feel welcome to ignore it.
I would like truenaming to work similar to the the Dresden Files:
Names, capital N, have power. If you know something's name, you automatically have a conduit with which you can reach out and touch it, a way to home in on it with magic. Sometimes this can be a really bad idea. Speak the Name of a big, bad, spiritual entity and you might be able to touch it, sure—but it can touch you right back, and the big boys tend to do it a lot harder than any mortal.
—Harry Dresden
Basically knowing a portion of a person's or objects true name is required for magic, but amount of control corresponds to the caster's will. So even if a child knew a demons name they would hardly be able to control it.
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) has Knowledge (Magic), something quite a bit broader than Magic (Arcane)
). Those in the list have been approved by myself and mystic, explicitly.
