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Old 08-21-2012, 05:07 PM   Top  -  End  -  #211
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I'll give you rankings instead of just first and last.

1st: Elli. She is, well, wife material. Admittedly somewhat boring, yet a certain strength of character shines through. Lastly, this may be colored by the fact that I played Friends of mineral town, but she seems most likely to be receptive to International Woman's Day Promise X (google it if you're not familiar).

2nd/3rd tie: Maria and Ann. They're both cute, but in completely different ways. One's very bookish and shy, while the other is outgoing and tomboyish. They're both dorks, and dorks are awesome.

4th: Karen. Doesn't interest me too much personally. Storywise, both she and Fox have Daddy issues. Sure, that gives them a topic to bond over and makes for good plot and characterization, but having the same problem is a terrible foundation for a relationship because neither of them are in a position to help the other heal from that issue. Also, in FoMT she's pretty much an alcoholic.

5th: Popuri. I don't even know how to express my dislike of this character. She creeps me out.

I'm mostly in agreement with this ranking, except I'd go:

1) Elli
2) Maria
3) Karen
4) Ann
5) Popuri


I continue to like Elli. If I had to explain it, I'd say it's because she seems to me to be the most normal of the bunch, and I tend to gravitate towards normal more often than not. I know, I'm weird. I also really liked their whole scene about tasting the same thing. Her being a baker and also having a grandma who is sweet certainly doesn't hurt her either. (as an aside, are the little boys related to her in this game? In FoMT I was surprised to find out she had a little brother, not sure if that's the same here or not)

Maria is the quiet bookish type. I like her, but I haven't really seen a lot that makes her seem to gel with Fox. I'm liking her opening up as time goes on, and my opinion on her may change.

Karen I'm liking more the more I see of her. For a long time she was at the bottom of my list, but she's been clawing her way up.

Ann I honestly don't care for a whole lot, but this might just be underexposure, similar to Karen originally. The only thing I can really remember involving her was the interaction with the other guy (Cliff?)

Popouri is interesting enough to read, but not someone I'm interested in. I liked her right at the start, but once the novelty wore off, I find myself more invested in how things pan out with the other girls.




Of course in all cases, these things may change update to update based on what happens.
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Karen is my top pick, for reasons I have already put into detail, I don't need to get into them again. Although, I will say I think they fit beyond daddy issues. They have a mutual love of wine and going out for fun, while at the same time, they are not such extroverts that they need to be around people constantly. She gets his humor and, likely, his flirting style. Personality-wise, I think she comes closest.

Popuri used to be my second choice but, honestly, Ann has recently been becoming a lot of fun to read. I want to place her second... No. I like Ann during the courting stage but I feel if she got married her tsundere and flustered attitude that I currently find so charming will dissapear.

I'll stick with Popuri as my second choice. She's always got something cute to say. I like her offbeat point of view. I can see her being happy as his wife. I don't think she'd be needing to change. Yea, she'd likely be a bit less helpful then the others but Fox isn't a guy that minds putting that effort in for what's important to him.

Ann is third, as I am really enjoying reading about her now and I feel she is the most energetic of the girls, a good attribute for Fox, who is the hardest worker in town. They are not just any sort of workers either, they are both farmers. She is most suitable for his lifestyle, I think. The other girls might have trouble adjusting to the farming livestyle.

Hmm, Maria would have a bit of the same sort of wife transition problem that Ann does. She is shy and innocent, qualities that define her and yet might end up being toned back if she was to marry Fox. The moment you wrote where Fox first realized that she was his friend was beautifully portrayed but I just don't see her as being right for him as a lover. I think she is probably best to remain as his friend for his more quiet moments.

That said, there is that Goddess connection she appears to have. Since being Harvest's follower is an important part of Fox's journey in this game. I have to ask myself, to whom would it be best choice to confide that revelation to? It might just be Maria.

Elli is last because her hair... is short.
Also, her personality is just missing something. She needs to break beyond her good baking skills. I think we need to see other sides of her. She's probably the most level headed of the group. Maybe that could be played up more? She's the kind of girl that would be good to get advice from, I think.

Hey Deme, have you read this manga series called, "The World God Only Knows"? It's my favorite love/comedy comic I read online. It deals with first love stories where the hero keeps making girls fall in love with him in order to save them. Afterwards their memories are erased to avoid issues with the next love story.

DESCRIPTION: Katsuragi Keima is known on the net as the "Capturing God" because of his ability to capture the hearts of girls in virtual dating sims. But in real life he’s known as 'Otamegane' and hates all '3D' girls, believing them inferior to girls of the game world. After unknowingly signing a contract from hell, Elsee, a devil from Hell who has heard of his legendary girl-capturing skills, comes into Keima's world and tells him about the contract he had made with hell, which is to capture the loose souls who escaped to earth. These spirits only hide in the crevices in women's hearts, and the only way to get them out is to make the host fall in love so that the gap in the heart will be filled. Keima unwillingly accepts the challenge, because if he doesn't, he will lose his head.

I enjoy it a lot, you might too. Nothing wrong with reading from the start of the series but you mentioned liking Maria. This comic has it's own cute, shy, librarian, girl story too. It starts at chapter 13 and goes on for 4 chapters. Her name is Shiori.

She's actually my favorite girl of the bunch. Although my favorite love arc is Minami. Who is, coincidentally, another shy girl. There is one big difference between these shy girls and Maria though.

With these girls, I can hear their thoughts.

Hey, that gives me a new super awesome suggestion for the story. Fox should be given the ability to read the minds of cute girls for awhile!


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Maria and Elli tied for first with Ann a close third, due to the reasons everyone else had said. For Fox right now I'd pick Maria because I think he's got the closest connection with her out of those three.

Fourth is Karen, but mainly because her goals clash with Fox's. I see Fox's story as a city boy learning to love the country, while Karen is a country girl who is desperate to live in the city. She needs to live her own life somewhere else.

Popuri is last because her eyes scream of blood and murder.
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Maria for first


I suppose Eli can be second with Popuri third.
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Well, this has been enlightening. Thank you all.

...I apologize for the delays. Between getting ready to go back to school on Monday, a small Fire Emblem kick, and general not-feeling-well, I've really not been doing as much work on my creative projects as I'd like. I'll be slowly-but-surely working on it when I can.

Feel free to ask them questions while we wait.



(Also, I totally dig the world only god knows.)
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This chapter's a bit small, but between all the delays and the hurricane heading my way, I wanted to get *something* up. Particularly this chapter, which has an odd bit of videogames imitating life...

Chapter 14: Calm Before the Storm?
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Anyway, I have a question. You see, I didn't realize that there is a thing for which the mayor's affection really matters: nothing special, but a series of small scenes that eventually have some cute-but-nonessential (well, good for a few affection points at the end, I guess) Maria stuff. Except...
We probably won't get to see them while they're relevant, because I didn't know about the mayor's part, and haven't been raising his affection much. So, I have a few methods around this.
#1: Try it legit as best I can. If it's later than I'd like, or not at all, oh wells.
#2: Temporarily cheat up his affection via cheats for screenshots of the scenes, then save-state to make it all have never happened. This will require replaying at least three days of gameplay, so I might start twitching. Don't be concerned. It's minor twitching.
#3: The vegetable festival may have, according to some sources, a small glitch I *might* be able to pull off where you can essentially grind up the affection of the mayor and a few other villagers. This may not be enough, but it will make doing so legitly much easier if it isn't. I promise to just use it on the mayor, and not Basil, the Mayor's wife, or Zack.
I'll let you guys control the exact extent to which I am allowed to cheat for your entertainment.
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Honestly, as long as the cheating is mostly behind the curtains (or justifiable in game a la the music box), I'm not bothered by it if you're not. It's your playthrough, I (along with I would guess most others) am here for your telling of the story. If you think cheating to get access to a scene we might not have otherwise will help the story, and you don't feel doing so invalidates your "best playthrough ever" then go for it. At least as far as I am concerned.

Also, please make me happy and tell me Elli's grandma doesn't go and die somewhere mid-game.


Unrelated: Where are you at? I'm sitting in Florida, and got off light, with just some rain all day today. If you're worried about it hitting you, I'm guessing Louisiana somewhere? (Assuming you don't mind saying since you mentioned it, if you don't feel like sharing feel free to ignore)
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Go ahead and show off some glitches. I'm sure you can have some fun writing for it.
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@ Seerow: If I told you what does or does not happen, in terms of things that could be suspenseful or emotional, it'd ruin the suspense of you wondering what happens. I really do like Ellen, as an aside, and was very surprised to find both Elli there and Ellen's line: I'd never seen that one before. This keeps happening, and I hope it never stops.

And yeah, Louisiana. Currently enjoying the day off of school where I'll still be likely to have power. We're staying, since it doesn't sound that bad, and we're in a relatively safe area.

This would most-likely be 'behind the curtain' glitching, with an accompanying Typo Report to explain the glitch, with a few bits of it shown in-story. This is assuming I can pull it off with my resources and that it exists. But if I'm going to cheat, I'd much rather use an in-game method (which tend to only help, not auto-do) than an out-of-game method.
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You shouldn't do anything that's likely to make you get bored of the game. Cheating and then making it as if it never happened is fine, but needing to replay a segment isn't. Also, I found using the festival glitch incredibly tedious, so I wouldn't do that, myself.

On the other hand, if you begin more formally semi-dating his daughter, maybe the Mayor's opinion of you would improve off-screen? In-game, that doesn't happen, of course, but it would be a reasonable justification for hacking up his affection level.

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Story is the most important thing, closely followed by seeing as many of the scenes as we can. I think you know my opinion of cheating since I added the magic doors in Pallet Town in Moemon Leaf Green. Personally, I'd prefer using a glitch over outright cheating, but either method is fine as long as you give an explanation in your story.
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I'm pretty much going to give you a non-answer here.

Do what you feel is right. This is your LP, and the end result/road to get there is entirely up to you.
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A new chapter. Awesome. About Maria. Even more awesome.

Anyway. Great chapter as always. The festival was a festival, but eh, what can you do. The Maria part was very well written. Don't know how much of that was your writing, and how much of that was you letting the game shine through, but it was very touching.
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It's rare to see Karen so excited. That girl really loves her raw veggies.
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Loved the update. I love how you incorporate some of the features (it's not a bug it's a feature) of the game into your writing.
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Anyway. Great chapter as always. The festival was a festival, but eh, what can you do. The Maria part was very well written. Don't know how much of that was your writing, and how much of that was you letting the game shine through, but it was very touching.
Well, the in-game scene is a bit shorter than the LP scene...Rule of thumb s any mention of Fox's mom is an invention; she's mentioned all of nowhere in the game. Neither is his grandmother. Really weird. But I think it's a fair mix of my work and the game; I think my task in LPing is to flesh out and deepen from the game. HM64 does a better job than most games at telling me where I need to expand, and how.

@ ObadiahtheSlim:

Indeed. It's my duty to show off all of the game's features, if I can... And anyway, the 'games imitating life' bits of it were too good to waste.

Also, happily, I realized that one of Karen's events includes a small tour of the vineyard's cellar. I still have to do some small bits on my own, but it certainly saves me some effort.
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Heh.
I apologize for some delays here -- it's really got nothing to do with my new project, since...Well...

I've been stalling on this one scene since, like, Thursday. It's getting frustrating, so getting the chapter done may take a little while more than I'd like. I'm going to take a break from working on it for right now, and come back every few hours and try and get some momentum going. I've been having this trouble with my other writing projects -- no idea why.
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Taketh thine time, Deme. Beautiful stories like this take time to cultivate.
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Ok, so...What are we doing with all this money? I have a few suggestions.
#1: We get another cow. Name suggestions if chosen.
#2: We get a Sheep, which when it grows, will produce Wool once a week. Wool is worth some decent money, and is the perfect gift for Ann, but...Once a week dear god why.
#3: Save it for when we get enough lumber to build a kitchen (we're about 200 away), allowing us to refrigerate things like fruits, wild items, eggs, cakes, etc.
#4: Spend it on mixed stuff like more grass, a storage thing for non-refrigeratable items from Rick, our milker...Rainy day money...
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I'd vote for another cow, but you'll probably need more grass growing if you're to feed another grazer. One tile of grass per day per animal, and it takes... I wanna say 7 days for it to grow back once eaten, so you need at least 7 tiles per animal, right?

Hmm... How about "Emmett" for the second cow's name?
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I do have a second plot of grass that I just planted, but it'll take a while to be established.
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I have been bad about posting, but <3 Karen. Even if I've missed the chance to support her for the endgame.

How useful is a kitchen? It seems pretty expensive, do you actually have problems with things spoiling? If not, I like #4 unless another cow would be that useful.

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You have not! We haven't made any formal votes on who to marry, and won't until we're at full affection with everyone. Fox is, with conflicting feelings for two girls already, inclined to take the Tenchi Muyo approach right now.

The kitchen is, at one point or another, essential for our purposes. It's required to get married. It can also, if done before the end of summer, make wooing Ann easier by a wide margin, by allowing us to store corn to give to her...As well as just storing other food objects and counting towards our 'build all the things' requirement.
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Old 09-16-2012, 03:47 PM   Top  -  End  -  #236
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cool chapter. I say get a sheep. The earlier you get it the more profitable it will be.
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I guess I'll say get a kitchen, because having options is always nice.

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I vote for a kitchen. By the way, these dream sequences are very nice.
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I vote sheep as well. That way you have more narrative options. Plus you can start building up it's affection values now so you can get the best quality wool sooner rather than later.
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Get a sheep. He's a bachelor, kitchens are unnecessary.
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