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Old 09-21-2012, 11:27 PM   Top  -  End  -  #271
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1. What would the LA be for Vampire Lord? I've been using the +3 CR as LA, but I figured it would be best to confirm this.

2. Can I have Gloura as my original race, but still be a vampire lord? (essentially bypassing the "humanoid or monstrous humanoid only" caveat). It fits my concept (shadows and darkness for the purpose of light), and let's me burn tristalt levels on something other than evolved x times.
It doesn't have an LA and sure.
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Wavelab, would you allow Society Mind and perhaps the Omnimind.

Also, would the Paragon template be allowed? Either the Improved Monster Class version or the template from the SRD.
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Wavelab, would you allow Society Mind and perhaps the Omnimind.

Also, would the Paragon template be allowed? Either the Improved Monster Class version or the template from the SRD.
Omnimind has already been allowed. I'm using that too.
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Didn't see the okay sign from Wavelab on my first look through.
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Wavelab, would you allow Society Mind and perhaps the Omnimind.

Also, would the Paragon template be allowed? Either the Improved Monster Class version or the template from the SRD.
I too would like to know about the paragon template.
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Didn't see the okay sign from Wavelab on my first look through.
Oh. I PM'ed him some of my questions. This was his response:

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Omnimind with Epic Manifesting is allowed.

And unfortunately no. Unless something is directly related to your stronghold (e.g. kitchen or throne room) it should be priced like that.
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@Bel: That was the closest template that would allow me to have Jin be more or less human before the stuff from Evolutionist.

I shudder to think what would come out of your tauric hodgepodge paired with paragon.
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I'm kinda considering Paragon as well, but for my cohort as my main is already filled out on all his levels.

I know that were were supposed to limit ourselves to 5 homebrew classes/prcs but what about things like epic feats (lets face it, alot of the printed ones suck), epic destinies, or other material that isn't connected to a class?

Edit: Or epic progressions, almost forgot those.
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@Bel: That was the closest template that would allow me to have Jin be more or less human before the stuff from Evolutionist.

I shudder to think what would come out of your tauric hodgepodge paired with paragon.
Exactly

Mostly, I want to know, So i can see if others most likely have it. When I saw it on Greenpotatoes i hadn't realized it was an option. And his to hit made me choke.

to hit is meaningless to my PC, as his main offensive weapon is a sphere of annihilation, but my AC has me concerned.
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Crap. Forgot about the homebrew limit...

Would one SRD count as one source? Specifically the Dream-scarred Press SRD?
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Meh. I'm not scared of the Flying Spaghetti Monster you've got in your sleeve. I've already got 2 ways to come back from a Sphere (3 if we really want to get cheesy a.k.a. Save Game trick)
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Meh. I'm not scared of the Flying Spaghetti Monster you've got in your sleeve. I've already got 2 ways to come back from a Sphere (3 if we really want to get cheesy a.k.a. Save Game trick)
Well I'm sure most people do, but it will require some serious resources to maintain said tricks. Plus if I'm forcing people to use them, that makes them unusable against my other brethen.

Plus it's not for your character, only the EEeevil ones.
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No real effort on my part really. One's part of my type thanks to the Evolutionist. The other one is an Astral Seed.

It will also help against the inevitable orbital strike/nuclear bomb from Grimsage Matt.
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No real effort on my part really. One's part of my type thanks to the Evolutionist. The other one is an Astral Seed.

It will also help against the inevitable orbital strike/nuclear bomb from Grimsage Matt.
This is true, I need to come up with some precautions.
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No need. If the Society Mind is approved I can cast psionic revivify on you even from another plane.
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No real effort on my part really. One's part of my type thanks to the Evolutionist. The other one is an Astral Seed.

It will also help against the inevitable orbital strike/nuclear bomb from Grimsage Matt.
Eh, I can place some closed demiplane portals around us all, and then have my cohort use them to swallow up any sort of orbital strike. Then it just detonates harmlessly in an empty extradimensional space.
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I just never seem to learn that no matter how hard I try, everyone else is better at making epic casters then I'll ever be. XP

Eh, what can you say about having a minimum caster level 20 in both cleric and sorcerer? Probably not that much :P

Are the 'npc templates' in the DMG2 allowed to be used for pcs? There are a few that always have caught my eye...

Edit: Would now be a good time to ask if building a super/ubermount styled cohort using me as her mount be a good idea? I'm already getting 8 extra dragon HD just from dragonrider...
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That's still a lot of buffs Igneel.

Btw, can I know what everyone's daily spell and power buffs are? I can share copies to everyone in the network but without the tacked on metamagic and metapsionic add-ons.
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Thats pretty true I suppose.

I don't have a complete list of my spells but I'm sure most of at least my cleric spells will be devoted to buffs thanks to persist metamagic. Sorcerer spells will at least have blasting and utility purposes. Having levels in dweomerkeeper will be interesting for bypassing some immunities and such, along with the phb2 sorcerer metamagic specialist to avoid paying the adjustment so many times a day (largely because I can't think of a familiar for him besides a baby dragon).
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Now I'm picturing your char with Spike from MLP.
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The two classes are allowed.

The paragon template in the ELH(And SRD) is available for a LA of +15. This is generally what DM's use.

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I'm kinda considering Paragon as well, but for my cohort as my main is already filled out on all his levels.

I know that were were supposed to limit ourselves to 5 homebrew classes/prcs but what about things like epic feats (lets face it, alot of the printed ones suck), epic destinies, or other material that isn't connected to a class?

Edit: Or epic progressions, almost forgot those.
Nevermind the limit, take as much as you want.

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I just never seem to learn that no matter how hard I try, everyone else is better at making epic casters then I'll ever be. XP

Eh, what can you say about having a minimum caster level 20 in both cleric and sorcerer? Probably not that much :P

Are the 'npc templates' in the DMG2 allowed to be used for pcs? There are a few that always have caught my eye...

Edit: Would now be a good time to ask if building a super/ubermount styled cohort using me as her mount be a good idea? I'm already getting 8 extra dragon HD just from dragonrider...
Which template specifically?

You can if you like.
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@Wavelab: So the Paragon template from the ELH (and SRD) is allowed but the improved monster class version from minmax.com isn't?

Just clarifying things.
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@Wavelab: So the Paragon template from the ELH (and SRD) is allowed but the improved monster class version from minmax.com isn't?

Just clarifying things.
Yes the template is allowed, but not the class. The class is just too good.
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Can I take the paragon template in sections? Essentially, I would get all the bonuses, but multiplied by x/15 (rounded down), where x is the number of LA I have for the paragon template. For things like the triple speed and the bonus feat, you may decide at which level of LA I would get these. If allowed, I will probably start out with ~8 LA for this.
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Can I take the paragon template in sections? Essentially, I would get all the bonuses, but multiplied by x/15 (rounded down), where x is the number of LA I have for the paragon template. For things like the triple speed and the bonus feat, you may decide at which level of LA I would get these. If allowed, I will probably start out with ~8 LA for this.
But that just goes against the entire spirit of the template. The paragon creature is supposed to be perfect, you can't just be half perfect.
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But that just goes against the entire spirit of the template. The paragon creature is supposed to be perfect, you can't just be half perfect.
Eh, perfection isn't instantaneous. I'm getting there.
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Ah well. Guess I'll actually have to start working, ne? Perhaps I could take less than the base 7 RHD of Gloura at char gen, then make those up as we level up? If this is accepted, I'll have 3/7 RHD for Gloura, and the Vampire (+8), Vampire Lord (+0), Unseelie Fey (+0), Phrenic (+2) and Paragon (+15) templates.

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