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Old 09-17-2012, 05:09 PM   Top  -  End  -  #211
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Alright so I'm the DM that shall be standing in for Gaiyamato. Feel free to post the requests in the thread and I will answer them here, it saves a lot of time. Unless you guys really want to keep it secret(which doesn't seem the case since you've already given summaries ).

I don't know what level of power Gaiyamato was working on with you guys, but I'm going to keep your power level as close to that of the evil party as possible.

We will (most likely) have a very good time together
HERE is what I have so far, with templates, race and so forth put in, it's very bare bones. The complete breakdown is in the notes at the bottom.
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Here is what I have so far, with templates, race and so forth put in, it's very bare bones. The complete breakdown is in the notes at the bottom.
Looks good. And you can use the Entropomancer PrC being lawful good.
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Looks good. And you can use the Entropomancer PrC being lawful good.
Woot Woot, thanks that's awesome. I will finish him up and get to writing some sweet backstory.
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On phone but here should be a link to my request post.
HTTP:http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showt...&postcount=318

Biggest things to worry about is how you want to deal with VoP's 30th lvl ability (basically the 'how many followers you have =worshippers for divine ranks') even though only reason why I would consider leadership for this character is for a cohort/traveling companion. (if I forsake my followers for my cohort, is my cohort also gest/tristalt as well?)
Using Epic Hero for the Dex ability, Warrior ability, and boosting my Cleric spellcasting.
Wanting to use Hidecarved's main Chosen Path of Marking for Ocuir followed with some Thrae. Basically gaining a boost to perception skills, bonus to all saves equal to half PRC lvls, gain permanent greater arcane sight, can deal damage to things normally immune to breath weapon but only half damage, and dc increase along with range.
Creature of legend, snagging the increased flight, all seeing, reflective hide, and breath weapon (force).
Good archdragon is largely for the breath weapon and telepathy.
Debating on Saint from (BoED).
All together gets me 9th lvls in sorcerer and cleric, and assuming I go cloister 7 domains even though four of them are SLAs that are useable 1/day.

Currently with all the templates and VoP his AC is hovering around 124 while colossal sized With no buffs.
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On phone but here should be a link to my request post.
HTTP:http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showt...&postcount=318 If they weren't approved already they are now

Biggest things to worry about is how you want to deal with VoP's 30th lvl ability (basically the 'how many followers you have =worshippers for divine ranks') even though only reason why I would consider leadership for this character is for a cohort/traveling companion. (if I forsake my followers for my cohort, is my cohort also gest/tristalt as well?) If you forsake the followers you can get a tristalt cohort.
Using Epic Hero for the Dex ability, Warrior ability, and boosting my Cleric spellcasting. Sure.
Wanting to use Hidecarved's main Chosen Path of Marking for Ocuir followed with some Thrae. Basically gaining a boost to perception skills, bonus to all saves equal to half PRC lvls, gain permanent greater arcane sight, can deal damage to things normally immune to breath weapon but only half damage, and dc increase along with range. Groovy.
Creature of legend, snagging the increased flight, all seeing, reflective hide, and breath weapon (force). Alrighty
Good archdragon is largely for the breath weapon and telepathy. Sweet.
Debating on Saint from (BoED). Radical.
All together gets me 9th lvls in sorcerer and cleric, and assuming I go cloister 7 domains even though four of them are SLAs that are useable 1/day. Algebraic!

Currently with all the templates and VoP his AC is hovering around 124 while colossal sized With no buffs. Doesn't sound too out of place.
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Thanks very much. Now to construct him further then a skeleton and cobble a backstory for a demi-god silver dragon.

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There is a PrC in the Dragonlance Campaign setting (only book of the setting that is officially wotc material) called a Dragon Rider that is different from the Draconomicon version. If my cohort took levels in it, it technically treats its mount as if it has extra hit die along with some feats and other bonuses. Can I have her designate me as it's mount while I'm in dragon form?
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Thanks very much. Now to construct him further then a skeleton and cobble a backstory for a demi-god silver dragon.

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There is a PrC in the Dragonlance Campaign setting (only book of the setting that is officially wotc material) called a Dragon Rider that is different from the Draconomicon version. If my cohort took levels in it, it technically treats its mount as if it has extra hit die along with some feats and other bonuses. Can I have her designate me as it's mount while I'm in dragon form?
Yes you may. You lose the benefits in human form though.
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Yes you may. You lose the benefits in human form though.
Well... Technically my cohort could still mount me if you get my drift, but I don't recall if BoEF was an allowed book ;P
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Well... Technically my cohort could still mount me if you get my drift, but I don't recall if BoEF was an allowed book ;P
I knew someone was going to bring it up eventually
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I was trying to avoid it when I requested the dragon rider by not mentioning I was recruiting a female cohort XD

For the archdragon template it mentions effects based off my dragon age category, how do you want me to count myself age category-wise if at all since I'm using the monster class?
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I was trying to avoid it when I requested the dragon rider by not mentioning I was recruiting a female cohort XD

For the archdragon template it mentions effects based off my dragon age category, how do you want me to count myself age category-wise if at all since I'm using the monster class?
I'd suggest matching up the size increases to the age categories and sizes of the base monster.
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Alright then, so I'm a great wyrm since silvers get to colossal starting at that age category.

Few more questions for VoP
In its weapon enhancement section it gives you a limited selection of weapon abilities you can put on your weapons. Any chance of being able to pick out different abilities from other sources as long as they don't exceed the basic formula that each is a +1 ability if memory serves? Such as Magebane instead of Bane for example?
For the demigod ability it gives you gaining a base land speed of 60ft as a medium biped demigod. Would while I'm in dragon form it go up to match a colossal quadroped speed?
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Alright then, so I'm a great wyrm since silvers get to colossal starting at that age category.

Few more questions for VoP
In its weapon enhancement section it gives you a limited selection of weapon abilities you can put on your weapons. Any chance of being able to pick out different abilities from other sources as long as they don't exceed the basic formula that each is a +1 ability if memory serves? Such as Magebane instead of Bane for example?
For the demigod ability it gives you gaining a base land speed of 60ft as a medium biped demigod. Would while I'm in dragon form it go up to match a colossal quadroped speed?
Yes and yes.
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What's the cosmology of the campaign setting like? Primarily, I need to know the radius of the planet, the number and radius of the moons, and details on heavenly bodies such as stars and planets.

I know drack already said the first game didn't use psi-magic transparency, but is this one?

Do things like the command armor enhancement (and other +x Cha check items) give a bonus to leadership like the admiral's bicorn does?

If I give up the doubled followers, can I have my gramarie heuristic EI be my cohort?
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What's the cosmology of the campaign setting like? Primarily, I need to know the radius of the planet, the number and radius of the moons, and details on heavenly bodies such as stars and planets. Well so far we know there's a moon that's pretty much all. That'll have to be figured out. I'm thinking we might base it off of the Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting.

I know drack already said the first game didn't use psi-magic transparency, but is this one? Probably not. It's nice to differentiate.

Do things like the command armor enhancement (and other +x Cha check items) give a bonus to leadership like the admiral's bicorn does? Only if it specifically states that, since Leadership scroe is dependent on your charisma modifier, not on a check.

If I give up the doubled followers, can I have my gramarie heuristic EI be my cohort? Hmmm. Alright.
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Is my cohort standard or gestalt?

Do I need to make magic items for my cohort into slotless items? (considering she has no physical body, being a (non)magical field of energy and all)

Can I substitute Int (or Wis or Cha) for Dex for my cohort's feat prereqs? (specifically, the feat chain leading up to Distant Shot and Uncanny Accuracy; the weapon in question can be used by EIs)
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Would an STP Erudite be kosher here?
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... well. I just found a completely legitimate way to get several nat 20's for attack rolls per round (I think it's 10 nat 20's if all I do is attack with my starship).

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Do I need to make magic items for my cohort into slotless items? (considering she has no physical body, being a (non)magical field of energy and all)

Can I substitute Int (or Wis or Cha) for Dex for my cohort's feat prereqs? (specifically, the feat chain leading up to Distant Shot and Uncanny Accuracy; the weapon in question can be used by EIs)
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... well. I just found a completely legitimate way to get several nat 20's for attack rolls per round (I think it's 10 nat 20's if all I do is attack with my starship).

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Hmmm that makes sense. But just for this situation I will rule that Epic Psionic Focus doesn't work on your psicrystal's foci. So you could only get 3 (which are then doubled) from yourself and 2 (which are not) from your psicrystal.

This is purely a balancing factor.
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Yes and you can only do that if you find a logical way, like taking a feat that changes it.
That's alright, she has feats to burn. Also, do I get an answer for my other two questions?
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That's alright, she has feats to burn. Also, do I get an answer for my other two questions?
Oh yeah sorry it's a standard cohort. What other question was it?
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That's what the first yes meant
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Oh. Well, I wasn't sure if that was what it was for, so I figured I'd confirm it. Ah well, she has money to burn.
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I've got classes hammered out and have almost finished the sheet.

Druid 25 / Nature's Warrior 5

Monk 10 / Fist of the Forest 3 / Warshaper 5 / Master of Many Forms 2 / Monk 10

How many virtual gestalt levels do we get for our race?

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I don't think that's how the monster classes work unless they are template are PrC monster classes. The reason being is that all monster classes save the ones I mentioned have a first level ability that seems to insinuate that you lose racial features and such which I think is supposed to include other monster classes. That and I could of swron there was something in the first posts of those threads that said something about it as well. I could be wrong.
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I don't think that's how the monster classes work unless they are template are PrC monster classes. The reason being is that all monster classes save the ones I mentioned have a first level ability that seems to insinuate that you lose racial features and such which I think is supposed to include other monster classes. That and I could of swron there was something in the first posts of those threads that said something about it as well. I could be wrong.
Yeah, there's a bit somewhere that says you can take more than one you just only get the "Body of the X" like rule from one class. I need it because centaur is only 3 levels long and creature of legend has 4HD as a requirement.

How many of these trisalt monsterish levels do we get to play with anyway?
At lvl 24 we had 5lvls, so at 30 we have what? 6? 10?
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I don't think that's how the monster classes work unless they are template are PrC monster classes. The reason being is that all monster classes save the ones I mentioned have a first level ability that seems to insinuate that you lose racial features and such which I think is supposed to include other monster classes. That and I could of swron there was something in the first posts of those threads that said something about it as well. I could be wrong.
You are correct. You can take one of the feats to take two though.

Virtual levels equal to your level.
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Old 09-21-2012, 02:27 AM   Top  -  End  -  #240
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Virtual levels equal to your level.
Wow, seriously?
Then why isn't everyone a 30HD dragon? (Unless in missing a big factor somewhere)
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