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Old 10-27-2012, 03:46 PM   Top  -  End  -  #391
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Probably should have thrown the javelin at an archer, but either way Chee would be getting surrounded by guys.

And, just for future reference what would be the rolls for throwing the javelin? Away from books once again.
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Old 10-27-2012, 07:17 PM   Top  -  End  -  #392
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Attack is 1d20+ strength modifier (another +2 if you're proficient), damage is 1d6 + strength modifier as well, since it is a weapon with the heavy thrown property. Are you ending your turn? :O
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Yeah, think so.

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So, thinking about moving down two or three squares, would static shock just be fine or would this be a time for Obedient Servant? or Shielding Cube (probably not this one)?
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Old 10-28-2012, 12:48 AM   Top  -  End  -  #394
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Vesth, that archer used a ranged attack in melee range of me? Is there some reason I don't get an opportunity attack on it?

&we.... why did you not attack something?
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If he moved anywhere else he would have gotten swarmed
From the center the only attacks would have been with the javelin or with shielding cube (it didn't seem like a good time to use it), isn't there time in switching weapons? If there is then it would have been likely that the other skeletons would have gone after him because of that.

This is only the second fight ever so if that thinking is wrong point it out and say what should have been done.

At this time he is able to zap things where they stand now, use aggravating force on things that get too close, shielding cube if there is a good opportunity, and obedient servant (likely a good time for that).

with the javelin it would only be throwing it, or throwing it using Aggravating Force. Not all that many options and wouldn't there have been a disadvantage to using a javelin in melee combat (if the skeletons surrounded him)?

yes, there could have been an attack from Chee but it didn't look like a good opportunity. again if that thinking is wrong call it out. this could just be a misunderstanding of the weapons rules.
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Old 10-28-2012, 02:20 AM   Top  -  End  -  #396
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Generally speaking I haven't seen GMs too often declare characters aren't already holding their weapons when a fight starts unless it would make no sense for them to already have them at hand in that situation.
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Well Chee was looking through books. . . and the question was more about changing from one weapon to others under threat of attack.
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Old 10-28-2012, 03:28 AM   Top  -  End  -  #398
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Yes, Ramsus, you did get an opportunity attack. I rolled for you and you missed >.>

Chee, uhh, you can do a standard, move, minor action and any number of free actions per turn. Sheathing a weapon is a minor action. Drawing a weapon is a minor action. To sheath a weapon and to draw a weapon would take 2 minor actions. You can do this, except you would have to sacrifice a move or a standard action (i.e. 1 standard, 2 minor or 1 move, 2 minor).

Alternatively, you can just drop your weapon. Dropping a weapon is a free action.
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Matthias, don't forget you're controlling Ligo now.
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Does he need to move or is the attack working from behind the shelves?
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Well guess that attack is likely not going to hit.
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I hope mine does. (I hope I did that right) Full damage is nice.
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Ramsus knocked it back with the flat of a blade on a bladeless weapon wielded by Mountain. Dang, I'm awesome!

Edit: yeah, we changed that to Con. It's right on his character sheet.

Edit 2: It teleported and got a free save (or something)!? Cheap!


So I'm thinking maybe Ligo could come over in range of both teams and start plinking off some of the minion skeletons but be able to heal Tar-Kan and Malus if needed?
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Well, I didn't put non-aggresive minion skeletons there for nothing >.>

Technically, it didn't get a free save. It passed all anomalities to the minion skeleton it switched (which passed the save anyway, at the end of its turn).
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so obedient servant gets it own standard actions and things like that right? or do i have to use my own?

think now may be a time to use it as it would be nice to have as many hands as possible to lock this down (as in killing the bodies the thing can go to).

would like to be the first one to act (for RP reasons or something) going to use aggravating force run of then set up the obedient servant. just need to know how it works.

and the rolls for Aggravating Force would be 1d20+5(int) for the attack and 1d4+5 for damage right?
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The rules for summons are right near the top of the Artificer stuff in the Eberron Player's Guide. You should re-read that for full details. Short version, you use your own standard actions to make to summon attack. You can use your Minor Action to move the summon and you're left with your Move action for yourself (though you could always cash in your Move action for another Minor and make the summon move twice I suppose).

Edit: The attack and damage rolls for Aggravating force depend on which weapon you choose to use with it (since it's a weapon attack).

If you use the Javelin it's 1d20+7 to attack and 1d6+5 for damage.
If you use the Dagger it's 1d20+6 to attack and 1d4+5 for damage.

If you make an Implement attack (Static Shock or Shielding Cube) it would be 1d20+5 to attack and whatever the damage says +5.

Edit 2: Note that you do have an Action Point (and will gain another one after this combat) so you could use that for a second Standard Action this turn.
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That reminds me: Would it be a good idea to use the Giant Toad now?
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Effect: You summon a Medium giant toad in an unoccupied square within range.
That means it would be possible to summon it somewhere not underwater, right?
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Old 11-01-2012, 06:20 AM   Top  -  End  -  #409
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Hey, um.

Ok, I have a friend from another site who said he's always wanted to try D&D, and so, I decided that I'll take him into my fold. Seeing as we're missing one player, do you want me to introduce him?

Of course, I understand if there's any trepidation, since everyone here is quite close and familiar with each other, and a new player might spoil this together-ness thing going on. Also, since he's a new-ish player, I have absolutely no idea what's his posting rate or style, so...

It actually doesn't matter to me, since I have another D&D 4e game going on with 5 players as well that's just started, but since The Grimmace is missing, I guess I'm asking here first. If you want a replacement, you could, in fact ask Ur-Quan, since I believe he did ask to join in when it was full.

What say you? :/
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I wouldn't mind it.
I don't know if Ur-Quan is still interested?
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I don't know if Ur-Quan is still on the forum.
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I don't mind at all. Not that I understand why you think we have some sort of special togetherness. *glares at Grue Bait*

Edit:&we, you mind if I take my turn now? Considering it's been a bit now since you said you wanted to go first and Grue Bait already went ahead of you anyway. (Though there wasn't any RP.)
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didn't put up the stuff for Aggravating Force, it gives a +2 to the next attack roll on the creature, don't know it it would help at all but the 12 of Static Shock would be a 14 as i forgot to add it to the roll

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Yay! Nat 20. Means my damage is 12 instead of 11. *grumbles about not having an actual magic weapon that would have done a lot more damage on a cirt*
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Since my last action was an "At-Will," can I use it again now?
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seeing as i wasn't stopped in the last fight from using one of my at-will abilities over and over for the duration of it, it seems you should be fine. at least that is what i got from reading the rules last time.
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I don't mind at all. Not that I understand why you think we have some sort of special togetherness. *glares at Grue Bait*
Wait, what? What'd I do? Also, I'm okay with the new guy.
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Welp, we seem to be waiting for Matthias now.

Also, I have major exams next week, so I don't have time to update the map for combat. Sorry for that.

I will resume combat on the 9th. During this time, I'll try to post little snippets of information that might or might not be important...
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It would be a great idea if Vesth lets you do it.
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