2/28/2013 - Update on Thumb
12/31/2012 - There's a New Comic
12/12/2012 - The "Lost" Holiday Ornament (and Child's Play)
11/26/2012 - Leftover OOTS Swag on Sale (+Thumb Report)
Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ)

Order of the Stick 888 Dream Wedding
Erfworld 163 The End of Book One
Erfworld Now at Erfworld.com!
RSS Feeds: OOTS

The Duke's Wolf, Part Four by Amber E. Scott
The Duke's Wolf, Part Three by Amber E. Scott
The Duke's Wolf, Part Two by Amber E. Scott

The New World, Part 9: Barbarians by Rich Burlew
The New World, Part 8: Gnomes by Rich Burlew
The New World, Part 7: Names and Cultures by Rich Burlew
Looking for the Gaming Articles?

 



Welcome back! Be sure you have read and understand the Forum Rules.


Go Back   Giant in the Playground Forums > Comics > Webcomics
Register FAQ Members List Mark Forums Read End

Webcomics A general forum for all webcomics OTHER than The Order of the Stick. Feel free to trade links of your favorites here, or even plug your own.

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 05-30-2012, 07:33 PM   Top  -  End  -  #1
memnarch
Firbolg in the Playground
 
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: 
In the mind.
Default MS Paint Adventures 6:12

(It'd be a shame to waste such a fine post by Gez, so here it is again)
----------

I'll pretend for a moment that you don't already know about MS Paint Adventures, Andrew Hussie's experimental more-or-less user-driven webcomic.

"MS Paint Adventures" seems to imply it's adventures in using MS Paint. This is false. None of the protagonists ever try to use MS Paint. It's not adventures made with MS Paint either, there's only one page ever made in MS Paint, the rest are made in Photoshop or Flash. However, it's true there are several adventures. Four at the moment: Jail Break, Bard Quest, Problem Sleuth, and Homestuck. You can pretty much safely ignore the first two, they're immature crap. Problem Sleuth is when it started to get good, and Homestuck is the currently on-going adventure, so it's the one that's going to be discussed in that thread.

Keen-eyed readers may notice the numbers in these URL. 1, 2, 4, 6? What happened to 3 and 5? Well, 3 was some sort of easter-egg joke about the Midnight Crew. 5 was the first attempt at making Homestuck, with the idea it'd be entirely in Flash. That was dropped as too time-intensive to create, and turned into some sort of in-joke easter-egg as well.

Which brings the next point: in-jokes. The comic is full of them. They constantly reference each other, and are full of callbacks. Here's a few of them:

What Pumpkin? : Jail Break introduced a useless contraption known as the Pumpkin Appearifier. It "appearifies" a pumpkin taken from somewhere else. As a result, that pumpkin disappears from the other place. Why anyone would create a teleporter that only works on pumpkins is a mystery; but this legacy has endured and there is a tradition still upheld in Homestuck to have gratuitous pumpkins in the story, here just to disappear without prior notice. Hussie's shop and imprint is called What Pumpkin?, but they don't sell pumpkin appearifiers there. Just shirts and discs and stuff.

Midnight Crew: during Problem Sleuth's run, one of the reader, known as Mayonaka, paid Hussie some money to star his D&D characters in a PS crossover. Hussie made them into a small-time bunch of thugs, and they become very popular, to the point that readers clamored for a series about them. Eventually, they turned up in Homestuck, although by then they didn't have much in common with Mayonaka's characters anymore.

Sweet Bro and Hella Jeff: This started on the Penny Arcade forum, as a mockery of someone's request for feedback for yet another of these "two guys chatting about games" comics meant to amuse a few of the author's direct friends and that's it. NWS? source, go to second page and look for S_O's posts. It became a vehicle for in-universe Homestuck memes, shared by the protagonists, which of course became real-world memes too because Homestuck fans.

Hussie used to have a site called Team Special Olympics (hence his PAF name of S_O) where he posted various creepy comics and articles about stuff he found on the net that was unsafe for work and mind both. If you dare digging around, you'll find the origins of a lot of other references and in-jokes later used in the comics.



Homestuck Music can be listened to at Bandcamp. One may also mention the fan music while they're at it. Because Homestuck fans are exceedingly productive. Go on a music-sharing site like Tindeck and count how many of the "popular tracks" have a Homestuck-derived avatar. That's usually between 60% and 90% of them. DeviantArt is less homestuckized, but only because there is a much larger userbase. You will still need more than a lifetime to see all pieces of HS fanart on DA.



Homestuck fans can be quite gross. Don't be like them, try to remember how to function normally in society. For example, even if you're dressed-up as a bunch of alien clowns, don't go in a classy restaurant to noisily spit in a bucket. It's rude.

But Homestuck, and MSPA in general, didn't attract such a large number of socially-maladjusted fans if it didn't have some good qualities about it. It is a masterfully-written story, cohesive despite the user-driven shenanigans that shaped it at the start, and very intricate. It makes use of its medium (the web) in ways more clever than just an infinite canvas, as the entire site can change to represent a shift in narrative voice, or to tell a parallel story hidden in a little corner.

Still, there are times when you'll have to wonder just WTF is happening. Why is there suddenly a lengthy essay about troll romance? Why do we need weird made-up names for passionate hatred and platonic friendship? What does that thing about getting locked in the attic have to do with anything? Chances are that at these times, Hussie is trolling his fans. Because he loves to do so. It can be seen in the flippant tone with which he answers the formspring tumblr reddit questions readers ask of him on his tumblr. Unfortunately, this flippancy means that it's easy for a small controversy to degenerate into complete drama. An example would be when former music contributor Bill Bolin was removed from the music team after a misunderstanding escalated to full-on bridge burning. The latest drama is about Hussie being racist since he declared his white kid protagonists were "canonically aracial" and you could pretend they were Asian or Black or whatever. Some tumblrers unearthed an old in-universe chatlog between two of the protagonists referring to a third character as being white, and the blogosphere exploded. There was an older, previous dramasplosion about sexism with the "bluh bluh huge bitch" thing applied to Vriska. Chances are more drama will inevitably happen in the future.

So, huh, keep in mind that Andrew Hussie is just an ordinary White American guy, not a perfect deific incarnation of Talent itself, and that he can make mistakes and be clumsy, especially when under the pressure of having to deal with a huge, obsessive, and often creepy fanbase.

So, just be reasonable people and all should be fine.


Previous threads:
MS Paint Adventures
MS Paint Adventures II: Who's Playing Who Now?
MS Paint Adventures III: [s] Comment
MS Paint Adventures 4: 13
MS Paint Adventures V: THIS IS STUPID
----------
Thanks Gez! Only changes are to add the new reddit question thing.


So, anyone else think Meenah is going to spoil Aranea's story?
__________________
If you want a OotS style Touhou avatar, send me a request.

Currently playing: Minecraft, L4D2, Awesomenauts. Available for L4D2 shenanigans almost anytime.

Steam name: memnarch. Same avatar.
memnarch is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-30-2012, 08:47 PM   Top  -  End  -  #2
Draconi Redfir
Ettin in the Playground
 
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: 
Gobbotopia
Gender: Male
Default Re: MS Paint Adventures 6:12

Now then. To start off this thread, Votes on the next pre-scratch ancestor we'll meet?
__________________
Avy by Thormag

Spoiler

Some homebrew i need help with.Fin stuf
Hear it, love it, live it.
Draconi Redfir is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-30-2012, 09:08 PM   Top  -  End  -  #3
LoneStarNorth
Orc in the Playground
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Default Re: MS Paint Adventures 6:12

Keeping in mind that I have no actual clue or preference which ancestor shows up next, and also that I'm not even 100% sure any more WILL show up...

Maybe the Sufferer? Meenah's been referring to him recently.
__________________
LoneStarNorth is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-30-2012, 09:35 PM   Top  -  End  -  #4
Lateral
Troll in the Playground
 
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Gender: Male
Default Re: MS Paint Adventures 6:12

We won't necessarily meet any more. I think Hussie mentioned something about not intending to introduce a whole 'nother twelve characters- he may just be sticking with Fishbutt and Spiderface. If we are going to meet any more, though, my money's on A1!Sufferer, or possibly A1!Summoner. (Although it would be hilarious to meet A1!Subjugglator.)
__________________
That whale is going to die, and it's Fullbladder's fault.
Lateral is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 05-30-2012, 10:07 PM   Top  -  End  -  #5
LoneStarNorth
Orc in the Playground
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Default Re: MS Paint Adventures 6:12

Looks like I was wrong, the correct answer was

Spoiler
__________________
LoneStarNorth is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-31-2012, 12:27 AM   Top  -  End  -  #6
Friv
Bugbear in the Playground
 
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: 
Toronto, Canada
Gender: Male
Default Re: MS Paint Adventures 6:12

I have to admit - I didn't like her at first, but Meenah is growing on me a little more with each update. (I think her response to Karkat is really the best thing ever, but her short summary of what happened is pretty entertaining too.)
__________________
Patchwork Magisters - Volume III is now available! You know, if you like that sort of thing.

Which you do.
Friv is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-31-2012, 12:31 AM   Top  -  End  -  #7
Scowling Dragon
Ogre in the Playground
 
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Default Re: MS Paint Adventures 6:12

Shes also growing on me a bit. Her quirk still makes me annoyed.
Scowling Dragon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-31-2012, 04:38 AM   Top  -  End  -  #8
Barefoot Monkey
Dwarf in the Playground
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Default Re: MS Paint Adventures 6:12

Quote:
Originally Posted by Draconi Redfir View Post
Now then. To start off this thread, Votes on the next pre-scratch ancestor we'll meet?
I'm not counting silhouettes
Rufio! Rufio! Rufio!
Barefoot Monkey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-31-2012, 05:00 AM   Top  -  End  -  #9
Scowling Dragon
Ogre in the Playground
 
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Default Re: MS Paint Adventures 6:12

The weird part? Rufios horns ARE SMALLER THEN TAVROS'S horns!


So if Rufios horns are huge as an adult, then as an adult Tavros's horns.....my god.
Scowling Dragon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-31-2012, 08:30 AM   Top  -  End  -  #10
mizzim
Dwarf in the Playground
 
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: 
Land of Clocks and Stars
Gender: Female
Default Re: MS Paint Adventures 6:12

I love Meenah. <3
Hm... my bets are on pre-scratch Disciple, or perhaps Dolorosa.
__________________
Thanks to Qwernt for the awesome avatar!!

Politics is the most accurate word in the English language. "Poli" in Latin meaning "Many" and
"tics" meaning "little insects"
mizzim is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-31-2012, 08:52 AM   Top  -  End  -  #11
irenicObserver
Banned
 
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: 
Land of Fans and Music
Default Re: MS Paint Adventures 6:12

Technically Hussie wouldn't be introducing anyone new if he did give some focus on the pre-scratch trolls. They are largely unimportant though, narratively at least.
irenicObserver is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-31-2012, 11:55 AM   Top  -  End  -  #12
Draconi Redfir
Ettin in the Playground
 
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: 
Gobbotopia
Gender: Male
Default Re: MS Paint Adventures 6:12

Quote:
Originally Posted by Scowling Dragon View Post
Shes also growing on me a bit. Her quirk still makes me annoyed.
How so? From what i've seen her quirk is more or less the same as Feferi's, but without the H= )( thing.

Quote:
Originally Posted by irenicObserver View Post
Technically Hussie wouldn't be introducing anyone new if he did give some focus on the pre-scratch trolls. They are largely unimportant though, narratively at least.
Careful, you can get yelled at for saying something like that.
__________________
Avy by Thormag

Spoiler

Some homebrew i need help with.Fin stuf
Hear it, love it, live it.

Last edited by Draconi Redfir : 05-31-2012 at 11:56 AM.
Draconi Redfir is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-31-2012, 12:00 PM   Top  -  End  -  #13
Scowling Dragon
Ogre in the Playground
 
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Default Re: MS Paint Adventures 6:12

Her slurring of words. I guess it isn't her quirk as much as her horrible grammar.
Scowling Dragon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-31-2012, 12:37 PM   Top  -  End  -  #14
Draconi Redfir
Ettin in the Playground
 
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: 
Gobbotopia
Gender: Male
Default Re: MS Paint Adventures 6:12

ahh, guess i dont notice it because i have pretty bad grammer myself :P
__________________
Avy by Thormag

Spoiler

Some homebrew i need help with.Fin stuf
Hear it, love it, live it.
Draconi Redfir is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-31-2012, 12:54 PM   Top  -  End  -  #15
Scowling Dragon
Ogre in the Playground
 
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Default Re: MS Paint Adventures 6:12

No yours is fine. I just can't understand what she's saying half the time.
Scowling Dragon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-31-2012, 02:03 PM   Top  -  End  -  #16
Derjuin
Ogre in the Playground
 
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: 
Land of Maps and Treasure
Gender: Female
Default Re: MS Paint Adventures 6:12

Does anyone know what kind of instrument that scratch device is?

Also yay Meenah for saving us from more huge text blocks!
__________________
277087.
I do Homebrew and Avatars!
Derjuin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-31-2012, 02:12 PM   Top  -  End  -  #17
Gez
Ettin in the Playground
 
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: 
Default Re: MS Paint Adventures 6:12

Quote:
Originally Posted by Derjuin View Post
Does anyone know what kind of instrument that scratch device is?
A phonograph, just a very early one. The earliest models used cylinders which would be read from one border to the other, rather than discs. In both case the device used a needle following a spiral, just in the original models the spiral had a constant radius.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Midnight Roamer View Post
I think he did the only morally acceptable thing by killing everyone.
Hark! An avatar drawn by Kate Beaton!
Gez is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-31-2012, 03:46 PM   Top  -  End  -  #18
Arrghus
Dwarf in the Playground
 
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Default Re: MS Paint Adventures 6:12

So I only put in this one link disguised as spam last thread, but Dante Basco (actor for Rufio and Zuko) did a brief reading of Dave over on his blog. It's pretty cool.
Arrghus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-31-2012, 04:56 PM   Top  -  End  -  #19
Teln
Barbarian in the Playground
 
RedWizardGuy
 
Join Date: May 2009
Gender: Male
Default Re: MS Paint Adventures 6:12

Quote:
Originally Posted by Derjuin View Post
Also yay Meenah for saving us from more huge text blocks!
Boo Meenah for interrupting our history lesson! Although, I will admit that I'm liking her more with each update.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Book of Erotic Fantasy
Love Life of an Ooze: One ooze. Idiot hits ooze. Two oozes.
If you use a blood-based McGuffin in a campaign with a vampire PC, plan for what will happen when said PC sticks it in his mouth.
Teln is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-31-2012, 06:00 PM   Top  -  End  -  #20
irenicObserver
Banned
 
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: 
Land of Fans and Music
Default Re: MS Paint Adventures 6:12

I am getting the feeling that from the flipped relationship between the highbloods and the lowbloods that their session to us would feel kind of like a bloodswap.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Draconi Redfir View Post
How so? From what i've seen her quirk is more or less the same as Feferi's, but without the H= )( thing.
She only ues that when she's allcaps (i.e. yelling)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Derjuin View Post
Does anyone know what kind of instrument that scratch device is?
I don't think that was a phonograph. More like a huge music box device.
irenicObserver is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-31-2012, 06:05 PM   Top  -  End  -  #21
Draconi Redfir
Ettin in the Playground
 
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: 
Gobbotopia
Gender: Male
Default Re: MS Paint Adventures 6:12

Quote:
Originally Posted by Arrghus View Post
So I only put in this one link disguised as spam last thread, but Dante Basco (actor for Rufio and Zuko) did a brief reading of Dave over on his blog. It's pretty cool.
Meh, sounds more like Zuko then Dave to me :P
__________________
Avy by Thormag

Spoiler

Some homebrew i need help with.Fin stuf
Hear it, love it, live it.
Draconi Redfir is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-31-2012, 10:52 PM   Top  -  End  -  #22
DukeGod
Ogre in the Playground
 
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: 
Brazil
Gender: Male
Default Re: MS Paint Adventures 6:12

My love for Aranea grows by the paradoxical second o-o
__________________
Biggest thanks to Dirtytabs for the Ponytar! He's so surturian and got thay ymeronian mane!
DukeGod is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-01-2012, 12:26 AM   Top  -  End  -  #23
Scowling Dragon
Ogre in the Playground
 
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Default Re: MS Paint Adventures 6:12

I agree. I also want to slap Aranea.

At first I thought the reason why she didn't care that as a pirate she killed and looted people was because after billions of years she was desensitized to everything but the survival oh her species.

Aperantly not. All she cares about is her adventures...YOU RAPED YOUR FRIEND YOU STUPID BLEEEEEP!

Edit:

Sea hitler.

Last edited by Scowling Dragon : 06-01-2012 at 12:31 AM.
Scowling Dragon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-01-2012, 12:39 AM   Top  -  End  -  #24
Bad Situation
Troll in the Playground
 
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: 
Onboard the HMS Brave
Gender: Male
Default Re: MS Paint Adventures 6:12

Quote:
Originally Posted by Draconi Redfir View Post
Meh, sounds more like Zuko then Dave to me :P
I don't think he was going out of his way to fit his voice for Dave, however I do think he would make a good Tavros VA.

Quote:
Aperantly not. All she cares about is her adventures...YOU RAPED YOUR FRIEND YOU STUPID BLEEEEEP!
I think this was more about her being frustrated with Meenah than a full out endorsement of Mindfang.
__________________

⑨Strongest Ice⑨

Last edited by Bad Situation : 06-01-2012 at 12:43 AM.
Bad Situation is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-01-2012, 09:12 AM   Top  -  End  -  #25
irenicObserver
Banned
 
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: 
Land of Fans and Music
Default Re: MS Paint Adventures 6:12

Scowling Dragon, I really don't think that was the point. Like, at all.
EDIT: also...

Last edited by irenicObserver : 06-01-2012 at 09:15 AM.
irenicObserver is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-01-2012, 09:29 AM   Top  -  End  -  #26
Scowling Dragon
Ogre in the Playground
 
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Default Re: MS Paint Adventures 6:12

Sorry. I guess im still channeling some anger from the fanpic I saw.

edit:

Yeah. That Comic was great.

Last edited by Scowling Dragon : 06-01-2012 at 10:33 AM.
Scowling Dragon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-01-2012, 10:08 AM   Top  -  End  -  #27
Musashi
Ogre in the Playground
 
 
Join Date: May 2011
Gender: Female
Default Re: MS Paint Adventures 6:12

*reads the last few Homestuck strips*
*reads today's XKCD*
...
*rereads both*
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by on Dwarf Fortress succession games
I have no idea where anything is. I have no idea what anything does. This is not merely a madhouse designed by a madman, but a madhouse designed by many madmen, each with an intense hatred for the previous madman's unique flavour of madness.
Spoiler
Musashi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-01-2012, 10:41 AM   Top  -  End  -  #28
Oracle_Hunter
Titan in the Playground
 
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: 
Chicago, IL
Gender: Male
Default Re: MS Paint Adventures 6:12

Quote:
Originally Posted by Musashi View Post
*reads the last few Homestuck strips*
*reads today's XKCD*
...
*rereads both*
I mean, it is the First Rule of Time Travel...

...at least among the unsavvy
__________________
Tenth Dan of the TV Tropes School of Forum Martial Arts
Reigning Champion of the Dominic Deegan Dojo

~ Awesome Avatar by the phantastic Phase ~
Spoiler

Last edited by Oracle_Hunter : 06-01-2012 at 10:44 AM.
Oracle_Hunter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-01-2012, 11:22 AM   Top  -  End  -  #29
Musashi
Ogre in the Playground
 
 
Join Date: May 2011
Gender: Female
Default Re: MS Paint Adventures 6:12

Is it the International Hitler Killing Time Travel Day or something?
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by on Dwarf Fortress succession games
I have no idea where anything is. I have no idea what anything does. This is not merely a madhouse designed by a madman, but a madhouse designed by many madmen, each with an intense hatred for the previous madman's unique flavour of madness.
Spoiler
Musashi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-01-2012, 11:34 AM   Top  -  End  -  #30
irenicObserver
Banned
 
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: 
Land of Fans and Music
Default Re: MS Paint Adventures 6:12

It Has Just Occurred To Me That Killing Hitler Is Likely To Constitute A Break From The Alpha Timeline. This Renders Me Solemn.

Last edited by irenicObserver : 06-01-2012 at 11:44 AM.
irenicObserver is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:30 AM.



Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Usage of this site, including but not limited to making or editing a post or private message or the creation of an account, constitutes acceptance of the Forum Rules.