As a final kick to the gut before i submit to the "LE is actually important to the story bluh bluh" thing...
This is the first time LE has actually DONE ANYTHING that actually directly affects the story of the kids and the trolls. And even then it's only to a bunch of dead versions.
That is all.
Edit: And also: Hussie is REAALY unfreindly to epileptics with this flash.
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... maybe he moved his Dream Self to the Crypt on Derse? Would that count? I don't know, Savior of the Waking World/Dreaming Dead are both associated with Ascending, it popped into my head.
Yeah, they just pop back up. John had one of those after one of the times Slick killed him.
On the flash, I'm really confused on where various bits are taking place. Do the green curtains mean the sarcophagus is doing its "already here" bit in the alternate kids' universe, or are the curtains in whatever narration/author-space Hussy-the-character lives in?
But that John wasn't already dead before he was killed. We're talking about the dreambubble ghosts of (heroically/justly) slain godtier characters here. Is the ghost of a dead immortal also immortal?
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I think he did the only morally acceptable thing by killing everyone.
This is how Homestuck works. Every act is nothing more than a prologue for the much more important things which will happen in the act following it.
Still, ignoring the fact that Jack/Bec noir was a HUGE bad guy for a long portion of the story in wich Lord English didn't even play a part in is... well... kinda silly.
Just because Ganon turned out to be the final boss at the end of Twilight Princess Doesn't mean that Zant was any less of a major villian during the time when we didn't even know Ganon was in the game.
But that John wasn't already dead before he was killed. We're talking about the dreambubble ghosts of (heroically/justly) slain godtier characters here. Is the ghost of a dead immortal also immortal?
Oh, that kind of dead god tier. This whole would business would lose a whole lot of narrative oomph if they didn't stay dead.
Oh, that kind of dead god tier. This whole would business would lose a whole lot of narrative oomph if they didn't stay dead.
Yeah, this seems to be pretty much cleaning the stage, destroying all the extras in one vicious boost to LE's reputation.
I wonder if it's truly as bad as it seems though. Does this mean everything in every dream bubble is now gone? That all the Prescratch trolls and two thirds of the Postscratch trolls have all completely ceased to be? The horrorterrors (who we'll eventually find out aren't entirely evil) are maimed, bleeding, and possibly dying? All that's left are 8 kids and 4 trolls for heroes.
That said... *shudder* The Huss knows how to do a game-changer.
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Ah, yes. "Art", an abstract term capable of turning products corrupted by laziness and arrogance into masterpieces that are not merely immutable, but inherently justified.
Does this mean that the dead trolls/humans that were in that/those bubble/bubbles (I'm not too sure if he wrecked one or two) are dead forever? Or did he just destroy the whole afterlife?
Either way, just knowing that he can destroy afterlives is just... horrendous. What will happen to Calliope now??
That's as dead as they'll ever get. If you go frame by frame you can see that the blast actually tore all the flesh off their bones before vaporizing that. This wasn't some kind of teleport beam or knockback attack or anything, this was an attack capable of destroying an entire pantheon's worth of gods in one hit.
Yeah, this seems to be pretty much cleaning the stage, destroying all the extras in one vicious boost to LE's reputation.
I wonder if it's truly as bad as it seems though. Does this mean everything in every dream bubble is now gone? That all the Prescratch trolls and two thirds of the Postscratch trolls have all completely ceased to be? The horrorterrors (who we'll eventually find out aren't entirely evil) are maimed, bleeding, and possibly dying? All that's left are 8 kids and 4 trolls for heroes.
That said... *shudder* The Huss knows how to do a game-changer.
Do we know that all the dream bubbles were within that one? Or could some iterations have escaped?
EDIT: Update Sort of. Well, now we know for certain that was the EOA6A3 flash
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Do we know that all the dream bubbles were within that one? Or could some iterations have escaped?
I'd think Aradia and dead Vriska/Tavros/AH would be at least glimpsed in the flash if it was supposed to show all the dream-bubble characters dying permanently - they've all had some screen time, dialog and minor development since they croaked or decided to hang out in the dream bubbles. So I'm thinking the flash just showed LE vaporizing one bubble.
And totally unrelated, Caliborn might just manage to be the most adorable psycho killer in paradox space. (But the competition is fierce.)
And totally unrelated, Caliborn might just manage to be the most adorable psycho killer in paradox space. (But the competition is fierce.)
The one tooth makes his grin look very smug. Unrelatedly, I'm wondering if anyone would be interested in a game of SBURBage Worlds to get their homestuck fix during the hiatus?
The one tooth makes his grin look very smug. Unrelatedly, I'm wondering if anyone would be interested in a game of SBURBage Worlds to get their homestuck fix during the hiatus?
I would definitely be up for that if people are okay with having someone new to the system (I've read it - or at least the bits relevant to SBURBage Worlds - but haven't played it yet). Though Savage Worlds initiative system might be a bit weird in a play-by-post, if I'm not completely misremembering.
I would definitely be up for that if people are okay with having someone new to the system (I've read it - or at least the bits relevant to SBURBage Worlds - but haven't played it yet). Though Savage Worlds initiative system might be a bit weird in a play-by-post, if I'm not completely misremembering.
I'd just have to make a complex chart. I'd happily have a new player, but for a proper session we'd need at least one other person.
I'd just have to make a complex chart. I'd happily have a new player, but for a proper session we'd need at least one other person.
So... long time lurker on this thread and the site in general, but this game idea intrigues me too much. I'll read through the rules for SBURBage Worlds, but I've played Savage Worlds before and have a decent understanding of the basic rules.
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So... long time lurker on this thread and the site in general, but this game idea intrigues me too much. I'll read through the rules for SBURBage Worlds, but I've played Savage Worlds before and have a decent understanding of the basic rules.
Awesome! I'll post a recruitment thread on the PbP forum.
Yeah, this seems to be pretty much cleaning the stage, destroying all the extras in one vicious boost to LE's reputation.
I wonder if it's truly as bad as it seems though. Does this mean everything in every dream bubble is now gone? That all the Prescratch trolls and two thirds of the Postscratch trolls have all completely ceased to be? The horrorterrors (who we'll eventually find out aren't entirely evil) are maimed, bleeding, and possibly dying? All that's left are 8 kids and 4 trolls for heroes.
That said... *shudder* The Huss knows how to do a game-changer.
That dream bubble was blue - the one the trollcestor kids were in was purple. They're fine.
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A thought. In that flash, we saw Lord English land on a Quest Bed. Next to him were parts of Derse and Prospit. Are Dream Bubble Quest Beds/Crypts fully functional? Could the Trolls theoretically Ascend on a bed in a Dream Bubble?
UNRELATED EDIT: There's a little flashing light on the end graphic. About level with the top of the black hole, on the underside of the main tendril leading from the sun. Art error? Or CONSPIRACY?
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Seems likely. Gamzee must have ascended somewhere and it doesn't like there'd be a rage bed in the trolls' meteor or the alternate universe kids' session.
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Or Gamzee just sewed himself up some bitching duds. The man's a sucker for a codpiece.
Seems likely. Gamzee must have ascended somewhere and it doesn't like there'd be a rage bed in the trolls' meteor or the alternate universe kids' session.
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Or Gamzee just sewed himself up some bitching duds. The man's a sucker for a codpiece.
There's also the possibility that he ascended a long time ago; we have seen something that looked an awful lot like his quest bed would beforehand.
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BUT! speaking of gamzee, i was in a skype chat with someone, and we realized something...
Maybe Gamzee just saved Tavros and Viriska from LE. I mean if self-distructing from sprite-form caused them to go to a new dreambubble, and not the big one that was just attacked...
IIRC their ascension structures looked pretty much like the Kids, they just didn't call them "Beds" because they don't recognize them as such. I want to say 'Quest Slab' was the term used, although that might have just been the term the fandom settled on as a generic.
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