wait, I know who the most important character in Homestuck is. It's the person that started the kickstarter to make the sburb beta that John and the others play.
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It's going to be SBURB. The real thing. Homestuck has been a gigantic prophecy all this time, clumsily attempting to prepare its readers for the upcoming apocalypse. But its time is running out, and the Reckoning draws ever nearer. The Kickstarter will destroy mankind, and paradoxically be responsible for humanity's salvation. The backers hold the fate of the world in their wallets.
Unfortunately, none of the rewards offer advance beta access...
wait, I know who the most important character in Homestuck is. It's the person that started the kickstarter to make the sburb beta that John and the others play.
Unfortunately, Kickstarter was created about 2 weeks after Homestuck began. I suppose the Homestuck version of Kickstarter could have started sooner, but I was under the impression Homestuck-Earth 1 was like our earth unless otherwise noted.
Unfortunately, Kickstarter was created about 2 weeks after Homestuck began. I suppose the Homestuck version of Kickstarter could have started sooner, but I was under the impression Homestuck-Earth 1 was like our earth unless otherwise noted.
Speaking of which, I'm sure it's has been, but has anyone noted that English's title is now canonically "Lord of Time"? We were joking about it, but it's now actually stated in the intermission game.
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Okay, so now we have ANOTHER set of trolls for me to keep track of. Someone help me straighten this out in my head. For convenience, I'm just going to use their dominant trait as description, since I'll never be able to keep the names straight.
Prescratch->Ancestor->Troll
??->Disciple of Sufferer->Robot (blown up)
??->??->disabled wimp
??->starship pilot->Hacker
Snob->Sufferer->Yells a lot
??->??->Catgirl shipper
Feminist->??->Sewer/Vampire
Rad Girl->Police->Blind Chessmaster
??->Pirate->Gamer
??->??->Elitist Strong Dom/Sub
??->Executioner->Druggie
??->??->Nihlist Magician
Rebel Princess->Empress->Child Queen
Also, which of these are dead, alive only in a dreambubble, or actually still alive?
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Also, which of these are dead, alive only in a dreambubble, or actually still alive?
The Beforus trolls (pre-Scratch versions of the troll kids) all exist within the dreambubbles- Meenah nuked them all as a means of ducking their Scratch. The Ancestor trolls did not, AFAIK, play the game, and should all be properly dead, although I wouldn't guarantee some version of them won't show up in a dreambubble (it just won't be *them*, more likely one of the trolls' idealized memory/imagination of them.) The current trolls I'd have to go check on and see who is alive and who is dreambubble only.
So, we've seen the alternia kid trolls, seen hints of the alternia ancestor trolls, and been introduced to the Beforus kid trolls (who are alt versions of the alternia ancestor trolls). I wonder if we'll see anything about the Beforus ancestor trolls (who are alt versions of the alternia kid trolls)?
Okay, so now we have ANOTHER set of trolls for me to keep track of. Someone help me straighten this out in my head. For convenience, I'm just going to use their dominant trait as description, since I'll never be able to keep the names straight.
Prescratch->Ancestor->Troll
??->Disciple of Sufferer->Robot (blown up)
??->??->disabled wimp
??->starship pilot->Hacker
Snob->Sufferer->Yells a lot
??->??->Catgirl shipper
Feminist->??->Sewer/Vampire
Rad Girl->Police->Blind Chessmaster
??->Pirate->Gamer
??->??->Elitist Strong Dom/Sub
??->Executioner->Druggie
??->??->Nihlist Magician
Rebel Princess->Empress->Child Queen
Also, which of these are dead, alive only in a dreambubble, or actually still alive?
You've made a couple of errors. Here's the connection list, and I'm including zodiac sign to help you a bit. ;)
(Beforan Troll) ---> (Alternian Ancestor) ---> (Alternian Troll)
ARIES: ?? ---> The Handmaiden of Lord English ---> Robot / Revived Maid [Alive]
TAURUS: ?? ---> The Summoner ---> Disabled Kid {Currently a ghost}
GEMINI: ?? ---> starship pilot --->Hacker {Currently half-dead}
CANCER: Snob ---> Sufferer ---> Shouty {Totally Alive}
LEO: ?? ---> The Sufferer's Disciple ---> Catgirl shipper {Probably Permadead}
VIRGO: Feminist ---> The Sufferer's Caretaker ---> Vampire {Alive}
LIBRA: Rad Girl ---> Police --->Blind Chessmaster {Alive}
SCORPIO: Miss Talksalot ---> Pirate ---> Thief {Currently a ghost}
SAGITTARIUS ?? ---> Executioner --- Elitist Strong Dom/Sub {Permadead}
CAPRICORN: ?? ---> Grand Highblood ---> Druggie/Psycopath {Chilling on Jane's session}
AQUARIUS: ?? ---> Naval Captain ---> Nihlist Magician {Very Dead}
PISCES: Rebel Princess ---> Empress ---> Child Queen {Totally Dead}
All of the Beforan trolls are dead, but their ghosts seem to be chilling out in dream bubbles. All of the ancestors are dead except for the Empress, and their ghosts seem to have departed. Of the current trolls, four seem to be in the current dreambubble (Karkat, Terezi, Kanaya, and Aradia), one is in the new kids' session (Gamzee), one is MIA (Sollux), two are ghosts hanging out together (Vriska and Tavros), and the other four seem to be permadead.
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You've made a couple of errors. Here's the connection list, and I'm including zodiac sign to help you a bit. ;)
(Beforan Troll) ---> (Alternian Ancestor) ---> (Alternian Troll)
ARIES: ?? ---> The Handmaiden of Lord English ---> Robot / Revived Maid [Alive]
TAURUS: ?? ---> The Summoner ---> Disabled Kid {Currently a ghost}
GEMINI: ?? ---> starship pilot --->Hacker {Currently half-dead}
CANCER: Snob ---> Sufferer ---> Shouty {Totally Alive}
LEO: ?? ---> The Sufferer's Disciple ---> Catgirl shipper {Probably Permadead}
VIRGO: Feminist ---> The Sufferer's Caretaker ---> Vampire {Alive}
LIBRA: Rad Girl ---> Police --->Blind Chessmaster {Alive}
SCORPIO: Miss Talksalot ---> Pirate ---> Thief {Currently a ghost}
SAGITTARIUS ?? ---> Executioner --- Elitist Strong Dom/Sub {Permadead}
CAPRICORN: ?? ---> Grand Highblood ---> Druggie/Psycopath {Chilling on Jane's session}
AQUARIUS: ?? ---> Naval Captain ---> Nihlist Magician {Very Dead}
PISCES: Rebel Princess ---> Empress ---> Child Queen {Totally Dead}
All of the Beforan trolls are dead, but their ghosts seem to be chilling out in dream bubbles. All of the ancestors are dead except for the Empress, and their ghosts seem to have departed. Of the current trolls, four seem to be in the current dreambubble (Karkat, Terezi, Kanaya, and Aradia), one is in the new kids' session (Gamzee), one is MIA (Sollux), two are ghosts hanging out together (Vriska and Tavros), and the other four seem to be permadead.
Okay, thanks! Which are the ones that got lazored by English?
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I'd also note that Aradia isn't on the meteor like Karkat, Terezi, and Kanaya, instead staying at the green sun with half dead Sollux or what ever his deal was.
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Also, the best status I think we can confidently give Gamzee is AWOL, given he now as Aradia's time-boxes, or whatever you call her time-travel music boxes. He could still be hiding on the asteroid and then travel back in time once it reaches the post-scratch human session, or he could have gotten there himself.
Okay, so now we have ANOTHER set of trolls for me to keep track of. Someone help me straighten this out in my head. For convenience, I'm just going to use their dominant trait as description, since I'll never be able to keep the names straight.
Let me see what I can fill in. I'll go the reverse order, because we know the most about the current trolls and the least about the pre-scratch ones.
Karkat - Self-loathing egotist who yells at everyone and everything. Status: Alive (And shouting)
Sufferer - Mutant rebel who dies dreaming of trolls not divided by blood. Status: Dead (Executed by Darkleer)
Kantri - Extremely verbose lecturer whose opinions are lengthy and absolute. Status: Dead (Killed by Meenah), Active (and talkative) in the bubble
Sollux - Bipolar hacker with high-grade psionics and an obsession with duality. Status: Dead (Twice due to overexertion) Active as a ghost with Aradia
Psiionic - Psion capable of flying a warship at otherwise impossible speeds. Status: Dead (Due to overexertion at Condesce's orders)
Mituna - Unseen Status: Dead (Killed by Meenah)
Tavros - Timid but good natured, disabled, always dreamed of flying. Status: Dead (Killed by Vriska)
Summoner - Rebel and powerful master of beasts. Hair resembles Rufio's. Status: Dead (Presumably killed by Highblood)
??? - Unseen Status: Dead (Killed by Meenah)
Vriska - Hypocritical, self-centered, sociopathic meddler. Status: Dead (Killed by Terezi) (Confirmed God Tier)
Mindfang - Competitive and somewhat hedonistic pirate. Status: Dead (Presumably killed by Summoner)
Aranea - Kind-hearted, self-centered, meddling dreamer. Status: Dead (Killed by Meenah) (Confirmed God Tier)
Aradia - Went from ghost to frog-sprite to robot to god tier maid of time Status: AWOL, Alive (Was killed by Vriska) (Confirmed God Tier)
Handmaid - Doc Scratch's ward and Lord English's second right hand. Status: Alive and Dead (Time Traveller, Killed by Condesce)
Damara - Unseen Status: Dead (Killed by Meenah)
Feferi - Sweet but largely ineffective and unimportant princess. Status: Dead (Killed by Eridan)
Condesce - Evil empress and Lord English's third right hand. Status: Alive (Working for English)
Meenah - Blood-thirsty, money-grubbing little rebel princess. Killed her entire team. Status: Dead (Suicide) (Confirmed God Tier)
Eridan - Caste-focused troll with a violent nature and unpleasant personality. Status: Dead (Killed by Kanaya)
Dualscar - Jealous pirate with several failed red romances. Status: Dead (Possibly killed by Highblood)
??? - Unseen Status: Dead (Killed by Meenah)
Equius - Caste-focused machinist with a role-reversal kink. Status: Dead (Executed by Gamzee)
Darkleer - Loyal executioner to the Highblood, could bring himself to kill Disciple Status: Dead (Presumably)
??? - Unseen Status: Dead (Killed by Meenah)
Kanaya - Very proper, very helpful, supportive friend. Rainbow drinker (vampire). Status: Alive (As a vampire Rainbow Drinker)
Dolorosa - Caretaker of Sufferer, Slave/lover to Mindfang, killed by Dualscar. Status: Dead (Killed by Dualscar)
Porrim - Feminist, tattooed rainbow drinker Status: Dead (Killed by Meenah), Active in the bubble.
Nepeta - Cute cave-dwelling girl with a fondness for shipping and hunting. Status: Dead (Killed by Gamzee)
Disciple - The Sufferer's beloved, spared from execution by Darkleer and lived in caves after. Status: Dead (Presumably)
Meulin - Unseen Status: Dead (Killed by Meenah)
Terezi - Master manipulator with an interest in "justice". Blinded by Vriska. Status: Alive
Redglare - Lawtroll who managed to bring Mindfang to justice. It didn't turn out the way she expected. Status: Dead (Killed by Mindfang after bringing her to justice)
Latula - Gamer girl who overstates her "rad"ness. Unable to smell. Status: Dead (Killed by Meenah), Hanging in the bubble.
Gamzee - Unstable killing machine only pacified with intoxicating sopor slime. Status: AWOL (Confirmed Cod God Tier)
Highblood - Insane killing machine and leader of the land trolls Status: Dead (Presumably)
??? - Unseen Status: Dead (Killed by Meenah)
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Okay, thanks! Which are the ones that got lazored by English?
Equius (Strong guy) definitely got lazored, along with all of the troll alternates who died in their runthrough of the game. It is currently presumed that Nepeta (cat girl), Feferi (young queen) and Eridan (murder-boy) were in that dream bubble as well, but that hasn't technically been proven.
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I'd also note that Aradia isn't on the meteor like Karkat, Terezi, and Kanaya, instead staying at the green sun with half dead Sollux or what ever his deal was.
While that's true, she seems to have entered the dream bubble from the other side, since she was chatting with Meenah in the latest flash. So she's not on the meteor, but she's physically in the bubble the meteor is passing through.
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Equius (Strong guy) definitely got lazored, along with all of the troll alternates who died in their runthrough of the game. It is currently presumed that Nepeta (cat girl), Feferi (young queen) and Eridan (murder-boy) were in that dream bubble as well, but that hasn't technically been proven.
I'm still holding out hope that it was a doomed Equius, and that the real one is still running around having wacky adventures with Nepeta somewhere.
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I'm still holding out hope that it was a doomed Equius, and that the real one is still running around having wacky adventures with Nepeta somewhere.
note: its perfectly possible that there could've been a doomed Equius and Nepeta who died at around the same time on the meteor in a different manner, thus being technically very similar to the real ones- like Equius actually defeating Gamzee, but got killed by Bec Noir because of Vriska's pixie dust trail. and of course, got missed by Lord English entirely.
or heck, just a doomed timeline where almost all trolls survived and somehow got out of their doomed timeline alive anyways through some shenanigans. I wouldn't be surprised if that was possible. given the nature of Paradox Space, it might even happen a lot.
in all probability, its just a virus, the simplest explanation is the most likely.
if it was in fact, the real sburb, then you were either meant to have it, which means you'll eventually get it anyways no matter what you do…or you were never meant to have it, so you don't have to worry anyways, because meteors will soon start falling and wipe us all out, so you might as well sing "So long and thanks for all the fish" while you wait for earth to be destroyed. besides its highly unlikely that any of us would be the players.
so two highly likely possibilities where you don't have to worry about anything! either because nothing will happen, or you will be one of the many dead.
the third possibility- that you are indeed a player- is the horrifying one. you have to live with being one of the last humans alive, entering the game and therefore dooming all of earth because you were always meant to do so and having to go through a game session of harsh trials based around making you grow as a human being, assuming that this isn't one of the vast majority of Null sessions where all your efforts are for nought because things got derailed by some minor detail you didn't notice.
so don't worry. in all likelihood, we have nothing to worry about.
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