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Old 10-23-2012, 01:10 AM   Top  -  End  -  #601
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Old 10-23-2012, 04:41 AM   Top  -  End  -  #602
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Yeah, I wouldn't tend to see a "THUD" for stabbing.

Also, Tom's aftercomic commentary is awesome.

Learn about filing factories!

Okay, relevant, and tells us what that place was.

Learn about Jamestown!

Okay, well, non-Americans probably didn't learn all about that in school, and therefore the context is good.

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Given that people in this thread and others thought that habit made her a nun or a Muslim, I think learning about wimples is a good idea.
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I'm not sure to remember the finer bits, but here's what we do know about Jones:
- she's not a very expressive or extroverted person (okay, that's an euphemism). Either she's truly emotionless, either she hides it all, either she's merely put them aside to deal with living longer than everyone else.
- she's got amazing physical skills. We can't exactly conclude yet they are in themselves 100% inhuman, though the possibility seems likely.
- she doesn't die or age.
- Coyote knows her so well she has her own nickname, "Wandering Eye".

With all these elements, we're certain she is at the very least touched by the supernatural (and not a robot!). She could be Galatea, or a similar sort of golem. She could be a human who made a deal with Coyote (though we still have to know which parts are the blessing, which parts are the drawback, and which parts are unrelated to Coyote). She could have been brought to existence the same way Coyote claims he was, however, I don't see which fictional archetype she could be.
And then, there's the 4th option: she could be something else entirely. Which is something we can't rule out.

Side note: the peasant in the 2nd panel looks like he stepped out from Zimmy's mind (well, the other two too, but him especially). Probably just an artistic choice, given his face in the 6th, but I still wonder if it's only a coincidence.
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I'm not sure to remember the finer bits, but here's what we do know about Jones:
- she's not a very expressive or extroverted person (okay, that's an euphemism). Either she's truly emotionless, either she hides it all, either she's merely put them aside to deal with living longer than everyone else.
- she's got amazing physical skills. We can't exactly conclude yet they are in themselves 100% inhuman, though the possibility seems likely.
- she doesn't die or age.
- Coyote knows her so well she has her own nickname, "Wandering Eye".

With all these elements, we're certain she is at the very least touched by the supernatural (and not a robot!). She could be Galatea, or a similar sort of golem. She could be a human who made a deal with Coyote (though we still have to know which parts are the blessing, which parts are the drawback, and which parts are unrelated to Coyote). She could have been brought to existence the same way Coyote claims he was, however, I don't see which fictional archetype she could be.
And then, there's the 4th option: she could be something else entirely. Which is something we can't rule out.

Side note: the peasant in the 2nd panel looks like he stepped out from Zimmy's mind (well, the other two too, but him especially). Probably just an artistic choice, given his face in the 6th, but I still wonder if it's only a coincidence.
She is also very, very heavy.
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Old 10-23-2012, 07:48 PM   Top  -  End  -  #605
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She is also very, very heavy.
Not necessarily. We know she's heavy enough to break a bridge that Annie can walk over, but Annie's how old? High school? Middle school? She's definitely much shorter than any teacher I can think of off the top of my head.
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Not necessarily. We know she's heavy enough to break a bridge that Annie can walk over, but Annie's how old? High school? Middle school? She's definitely much shorter than any teacher I can think of off the top of my head.
Actually, she never even tried the bridge. She jumped off beside it. See here.
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I doubt she is as strong as limestone. Limestone isn't strong enough to break concrete without smashing itself.

That always bugs me about stone creatures is that they are never brittle.
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Old 10-24-2012, 02:15 AM   Top  -  End  -  #608
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Well of course not. Stone creatures exist only in stories. Since people most attribute stone to being most stone creatures are strong. If you want your construct or creature to be brittle, you make it out of something else.
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Jones...Jones you appear to be on fire.

I know you don't react to things very much, but your on fire Jones.
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Well.

That's interesting?
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I know you don't react to things very much, but your on fire Jones.
You'd think she'd be interested in at least protecting her clothes... After all, we've never seen Jones UNclothed. Can't say if that's due to modesty or just attempting to fit in to society. Or if she's not anatomically correct and is hiding that.
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This is probably my favorite panel in this little set so far.
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Hmm, not the Library of Alexandria and none of the Great Fires of Rome, as those were not really millennia ago. More like a millennium and some change.

Did Ancient Egypt or Greece have any great fires or have we finally departed from what is historically plausible?

Musashi: I was more reminded of the Shadows from Deadly Premonition, but I do concur that it was a bit interestingly odd.
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Hmm, not the Library of Alexandria and none of the Great Fires of Rome, as those were not really millennia ago. More like a millennium and some change.

Did Ancient Egypt or Greece have any great fires or have we finally departed from what is historically plausible?

Musashi: I was more reminded of the Shadows from Deadly Premonition, but I do concur that it was a bit interestingly odd.
Word of Tom certainly implies it's the Great Fire of Rome, which Wiki puts at AD 64, so we're about 52 years short of "Millenia Ago", but with the timescales we're talking about that is nothing. I'm willing to let him round.
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You let him start now, and before you know it he'll be rounding pi to 3.
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Oh, yeah.
... perhaps.
We just know it's a touchy subject. For all we know, she's got a normal weight/height ratio for a human, but feels enough emotions to be self-conscious about it. Sure, it would make more sense that she is actually as heavy as stone, but this is Tom's story we're talking about. The easy explanation should never be assumed.
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No we're not. Short, I mean. The Great Fire was 1.948 millennia ago.
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Well, at least she's not playing the violin.
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That or Pratchett.

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... perhaps.
We just know it's a touchy subject. For all we know, she's got a normal weight/height ratio for a human, but feels enough emotions to be self-conscious about it. Sure, it would make more sense that she is actually as heavy as stone, but this is Tom's story we're talking about. The easy explanation should never be assumed.
What about the page I linked a few posts ago? Humans don't generally go bloosh and sink straight to the bottom like that. Also, the time George teleported them to her room, you'll notice Jones sunk into the mattress up to almost her knees.
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Alternate explanation for 'millenia':


Gunnerkrigg Court is set slightly in the future, hence explaining robots (to a degree).

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Gunnerkrigg Court is set slightly in the future, hence explaining robots (to a degree).
But those robots are basically golems, whose internal circuitry is also their OS. The reality-bending rocket that Mr. Donlan and Mr. Carver set up, however, is more than enough justification for this.
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Gunnerkrigg Court is set slightly in the future, hence explaining robots (to a degree).
Wasn't Kat shown playing a modern game the day of it's release? Also I believe there were contemporary bands mentioned at one point.
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Wasn't Kat shown playing a modern game the day of it's release? Also I believe there were contemporary bands mentioned at one point.
Obviously not all parts of the Court are temporally coterminous with the present.-

...Actually, on second thought, I wouldn't put that past them, really...
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Well, there goes my Galatea theory. She precedes the myth.
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I told ya she couldn't be limestone!
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You're assuming she didn't generate the myth. The story could still be 'true', just set in the wrong time.


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That's a few more than "several" millennia.
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