Also of note: She looks like she always did, even when everyone back then had this protruded forehead and hunched over thing going on, hm?
Interesting indeed. The implications are quite staggering, in fact.
Cro-Magnon Man was, basically, us. They didn't make just useful things, but decorated things, creating, and collecting, useless things. They unquestionably created art. Some of the the most famous cave paintings were their work.
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She could be lilith. The actual first wife of adam who denied to bend over cause god said so and got cursed. Her motherly side is because she can never have children of her own perhaps?
Or maybe she was the template all humans are designed from and is perfect with no genetic flaws/etc, instant regeneration, no aging/degeneration, immunity to disease, etc.
Or instead of a djinn of fire/water, maybe shes some kinda earth elemental? Would explain the weight and the inability to swim, and the ability to topless wrestle a giant buffalo thing.
Hm.. or Gaia. Mother earth's incarnation? I think that trumps coyote any day.
She could be lilith. The actual first wife of adam who denied to bend over cause god said so and got cursed. Her motherly side is because she can never have children of her own perhaps?
Or maybe she was the template all humans are designed from and is perfect with no genetic flaws/etc, instant regeneration, no aging/degeneration, immunity to disease, etc.
Or instead of a djinn of fire/water, maybe shes some kinda earth elemental? Would explain the weight and the inability to swim, and the ability to topless wrestle a giant buffalo thing.
Hm.. or Gaia. Mother earth's incarnation? I think that trumps coyote any day.
I doubt she's Lilith. That one is much more recent than the others, she didn't come around until the 8th-10th century, at least according to wikipedia. She can't really be a Djinn or a goddess either since she has no etheric presence and such creatures, like Coyote, are nearly pure ether.
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I doubt she's Lilith. That one is much more recent than the others, she didn't come around until the 8th-10th century, at least according to wikipedia.
It's always possible that the beliefs of everyone who has read the Bible and all of its incarnations can retroactively rewrite reality to create Jones. Not probable, but possible.
If we go back any farther, being Eve/Lilith/whoever will become the only option.
My personal belief is that Jones is actually http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cybele. Earth Goddess, Mother Goddess, often assimilated into other cultures, it kind of fits.
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It's always possible that the beliefs of everyone who has read the Bible and all of its incarnations can retroactively rewrite reality to create Jones. Not probable, but possible.
If we go back any farther, being Eve/Lilith/whoever will become the only option.
My personal belief is that Jones is actually http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cybele. Earth Goddess, Mother Goddess, often assimilated into other cultures, it kind of fits.
It can't be the only option, there's more than one creation myth out there you know. Someone on the GKC forums suggested that maybe we'll go back to the beginning of time and see her as Maiden, Mother and Crone.
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It can't be the only option, there's more than one creation myth out there you know. Someone on the GKC forums suggested that maybe we'll go back to the beginning of time and see her as Maiden, Mother and Crone.
True, but that's what the "whoever" was there for.
It's always possible that the beliefs of everyone who has read the Bible and all of its incarnations can retroactively rewrite reality to create Jones. Not probable, but possible.
If that were the case, then a lamia-like figure would not lead to good outcomes when entrusted with human children. To put it mildly.
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Ah, so Jones's weirdly aloof persona is finally explained: She's the ultimate hipster! "Man, I was into being human like literally a million years before it was cool!"
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At this point, Coyote's theory no longer applies to Jones. Short of retroactive-time-shenanagins, Jones predates modern humans.
However, it is possible (not probable) that Jones is in fact the first "myth" created, as she may have been the patron deity or something to early humans, such as homo erectus.
Why she looks like a modern human or something could be chalked up to the idea that, in striving to be more like their goddess, early humans actually became more like their goddess, physically at least.[/offthewalltheory]
At this point, Coyote's theory no longer applies to Jones. Short of retroactive-time-shenanagins, Jones predates modern humans.
Chances are so does Coyote. Remember, Coyote put the stars in the sky. But as Kat can tell you, the stars are ALSO millions upon millions of years old balls of exploding hydrogen. And both things are true!
I get this feeling etheric thought doesn't particularly give much thought to that kind of stuff.
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Depending on when in the Pleistocene we are, we may still be in the range of Homo Sapiens (and Homo Neanderthal), but it's close. It's interesting that the more we know of Jones' past, the more uncertain it becomes as to what she is...
Chances are so does Coyote. Remember, Coyote put the stars in the sky. But as Kat can tell you, the stars are ALSO millions upon millions of years old balls of exploding hydrogen. And both things are true!
I get this feeling etheric thought doesn't particularly give much thought to that kind of stuff.
So does that mean that the only things that exist are the things that humans believe in?
Depending on when in the Pleistocene we are, we may still be in the range of Homo Sapiens (and Homo Neanderthal), but it's close. It's interesting that the more we know of Jones' past, the more uncertain it becomes as to what she is...
Homo sapiens neanderthalensis is a subspecies of humanity, which homo sapiens sapiens were able to breed with.
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Chances are so does Coyote. Remember, Coyote put the stars in the sky. But as Kat can tell you, the stars are ALSO millions upon millions of years old balls of exploding hydrogen. And both things are true!
I get this feeling etheric thought doesn't particularly give much thought to that kind of stuff.
It's less that the etheric doesn't give much thought to it, it's more the difference between the sun rising and an exploding ball of hydrogen coming into view over the horizon.
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So she's human shaped, but from before humanity existed in their present forms?
I smell a time traveller coming back the Long Way, the Slow Path, the 'I really hope you got a hobby' road.
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So she's human shaped, but from before humanity existed in their present forms?
I smell a time traveller coming back the Long Way, the Slow Path, the 'I really hope you got a hobby' road.
That doesn't necessarily work. Lifespan is an issue, as is relative density and durability. No "scientific" (according to current pseudo-science) source of lifespan extension will work forever, and for that matter magical ones always seem to have some sort of hideous drawback. Furthermore, if the point of the enhancement is immortality, the target would not become heavy enough to sink knee-deep into a mattress, nor durable enough to bounce a sword off her face.
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That doesn't necessarily work. Lifespan is an issue, as is relative density and durability. No "scientific" (according to current pseudo-science) source of lifespan extension will work forever, and for that matter magical ones always seem to have some sort of hideous drawback. Furthermore, if the point of the enhancement is immortality, the target would not become heavy enough to sink knee-deep into a mattress, nor durable enough to bounce a sword off her face.
I never said she was a human time traveller, just human shaped.
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She's clearly not human. She's very durable and strong, she dosn't age, and appears to have muted emotions (Though this might be a side effect of existing for eons).
I really liked the statue theory, but that's kind of gone away now.
Right now, I'm saying she's either a time traveler, or some sort of concept (like Coyotes theory) projected retroactively through history.
Perhaps some hyper-advanced alien race stumbles upon the charred wreckage of earth and want to learn it's history, so they make a human-shaped, immortal, indestructible...thing, to watch everything and then tell them.
But that makes her a robot.
And she's not a robot.
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As can be seen by the existence of Golems, Dragons, Fay, Elementals, etcetera, there is other types of sentience in this 'verse besides humans and robots.
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Earth Elemental might work. We have fire elementals, that the rest of the classical quartet is also present isn't too big a stretch IMO.
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Mewtarthio, you have scared my brain into hiding, a trembling, broken shadow of a thing, cowering somewhere in the soothing darkness and singing nursery rhymes in the hope of obscuring the Lovecraftian facts you so boldly brought into daylight.
I had always kind of expected 'Earth Elemental' but the longer and longer this goes on the more and more I expect it to be something a bit more earth-shattering.
Hell at this point I'm almost expecting it to eventually end and for her to just say, "I don't know what I am, I have always been".
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