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Old 06-05-2012, 01:01 PM   Top  -  End  -  #31
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The medicine gave me echoes of Raistlin and Elric, which is why it actually makes me -more- creeped out by her than I was before. I'm voting her most likely to sell us all out for godlike powers.
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Old 06-05-2012, 03:36 PM   Top  -  End  -  #32
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Cool, I'd never actually heard of either of those characters, but wikipedia tells me that they bear a definite similarity to Zinovia. I guess power-hungry wizards are common on fantasy literature
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Old 06-05-2012, 04:39 PM   Top  -  End  -  #33
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Out of Curiosity, Leviathan, could you let me know where the +3CL and +4 to spell DC is coming from?

So far I have:

+1 CL: Varisian Tattoo (bonus feat)
+1 CL: Bloatmage Initiative
+1 CL: Trait
+1 DC: Trait
+1 DC: Spell Focus

And then +1 damage from evocation.
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Old 06-05-2012, 04:55 PM   Top  -  End  -  #34
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Certainly, Blisstake. You've got the three CR increases already, which, with the normal level 1 damage, comes to 4d4.

For the DC, I'm actually not sure, perhaps it was a typo on the sheet. It should be +1 trait, +1 spell focus. But I can't find the other two So I'm assuming typo or late-night character building resulting in me confusing CL and DC.

I'll edit my IC post and sheet to reflect that. Thanks for the catch Blisstake
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Old 06-05-2012, 04:59 PM   Top  -  End  -  #35
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Actually, it was only +3 listed anyway; I forgot her intelligence was 20. So the DC comes to 18? 11+5+2?

Still pretty damn high
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Old 06-05-2012, 05:00 PM   Top  -  End  -  #36
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Yup, I wanted to at least make sure that if I was playing a sub-optimal sort of wizard, I could do it well with lots of dice and high save DCs! It's really quite irksome that intelligence plays no role in doing damage like the primary stat does for many other classes.
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Old 06-05-2012, 05:03 PM   Top  -  End  -  #37
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Lets not start talking about stats. " Hey, you're a Cleric. You -need- two stats, and if you want -any- skills, you need a third as well. Oh, yeah, and you're -supposed- to be back up combat, too! Hahahahah!"
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Old 06-05-2012, 05:05 PM   Top  -  End  -  #38
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Yup, sometimes being a big dumb fighter not expected to use any skills seems preferable to anything else!

I think Estanos has very good fluff to back up the MADness of cleric, though!
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Old 06-05-2012, 05:09 PM   Top  -  End  -  #39
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Tireas thinks he's a fighter, statwise
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Old 06-05-2012, 05:13 PM   Top  -  End  -  #40
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More a paladin, actually. Not too many fighters find use for +3 Charisma But yes, he's a really strong rogue!
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Old 06-05-2012, 05:14 PM   Top  -  End  -  #41
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How obvious is the fact that Tireas isn't -actually- paying attention to the prayer? I need to know whether or not Estanos is going to start witnessing to the tiefling.
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Old 06-05-2012, 05:19 PM   Top  -  End  -  #42
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He's not making it obvious, exactly, but Estanos has enough sense motive to be suspicious about it...

...assuming he doesn't want to believe Tireas is listening intently, of course
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Old 06-05-2012, 06:49 PM   Top  -  End  -  #43
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The more I think about it, the more I'm sad I didn't make a druid. That exploration map is -many hexes-, and we've none of us who is particularly good at wood craft.

I am kind of curious what the guy back in Brevoy who actually picked this group was thinking.
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Old 06-05-2012, 06:51 PM   Top  -  End  -  #44
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I am kind of curious what the guy back in Brevoy who actually picked this group was thinking.
"I thought more people would apply"?
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Old 06-05-2012, 07:10 PM   Top  -  End  -  #45
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" What do you mean, people aren't excited to tramp around a monster-infested forest hunting bandits and drawing a map?"
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Speaking as the "guy back in Brevoy," I can assure you that I have my reasons For one thing, he cares more about personality than survival skills. For another, survival actually plays pretty much no role in exploration. I mean, it'll help you eat for free, but that's about it. And maybe some of you with good diplomacy can negotiate something with Oleg (if you survive) to deal with that problem. Movement speed is actually the key feature of exploration.
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Old 06-05-2012, 07:19 PM   Top  -  End  -  #47
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Speaking as the "guy back in Brevoy," I can assure you that I have my reasons For one thing, he cares more about personality than survival skills. For another, survival actually plays pretty much no role in exploration. I mean, it'll help you eat for free, but that's about it. And maybe some of you with good diplomacy can negotiate something with Oleg (if you survive) to deal with that problem. Movement speed is actually the key feature of exploration.
I didn't mean the reasons -you- chose our team, I mean the actual IC NPC sitting behind a desk. I doubt -he- chose us based on how interesting we were.

Though... you never know. Bureaucrats are a weird and fickle bunch.

Survival might not be too useful, but I was more thinking of utility like 'Speak with Animals'. The sheer number of times I've seen that used to just wreck havoc with the world around a druid cannot be overstated.
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Old 06-05-2012, 07:25 PM   Top  -  End  -  #48
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Oh I know what you meant, not to worry. Maybe it was first-come, first-served with a charter

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I apologize for the short and delayed post; I had a family event that went later than expected. I should be much more available tomorrow.
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Not to worry, Winterfell. We all have our slow days.

@ RocketMan: Your post didn't specify which squares you Greased. I assumed you hit the squares B8 and B9 were in, and the two squares on the wagon, since that's minimally intrusive. Tell me if I got it wrong
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Old 06-06-2012, 06:21 AM   Top  -  End  -  #51
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Is Tireas still hidden, detected, or would you like a stealth check?

At any rate, I'm not going until after Zinovia
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Gosh, you'd think I had another burning hands prepared with a worry like that
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Old 06-06-2012, 09:02 AM   Top  -  End  -  #53
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Yeah, come on Bliss. Its not like she's Heronius Napalm V, after all. We shouldn't have to worry -too- much about the burning.

On a tactics note: Ilya is now pretty much the only one who can deal with the bandits outside the fort, at least until Viktor and Tireas can join him on the wall. It would be a Bad Thing if those bandits can get away to report in.
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I had actually assumed the Grease spell would cover the two squares south of the prone bandits, since, well, it's supposed to be intrusive. Sorry, next time I'll specify.
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@ Blisstake: Seeing as your SLA didn't require you to do anything that would make you detectable, and seeing as I assumed you all took 20s on your stealth checks to hide, I'd say you're still well hidden. Besides, the bandits are still flat footed, so even if you weren't you're still in sneak attack territory.

@ Rocketman: Okay, we'll move the position of the grease, as nobody has used either of those squares.

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On a tactics note: Ilya is now pretty much the only one who can deal with the bandits outside the fort, at least until Viktor and Tireas can join him on the wall. It would be a Bad Thing if those bandits can get away to report in.
Oh also, I feel like it won't be a problem, since the bandits outside won't know that they're losing inside. So I imagine they'll devote at least a few rounds to trying to get in first.
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Old 06-06-2012, 10:38 AM   Top  -  End  -  #57
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Slice, slice, slice. Glad I didn't botch the first attack of the game.

Anyway, if they start running, Tireas has a shortbow. Might be able to pick off one or two once the inside bandits are taken care of.
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Old 06-06-2012, 02:44 PM   Top  -  End  -  #58
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My Jensi approves of using Channel Energy to heal one person
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Old 06-06-2012, 02:48 PM   Top  -  End  -  #59
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Zinovia can also use her bonded item to spontaneously cast another magic missile if we need to finish off a runner. I'd prefer to hold on to it for a utility spell, but it's a safe option.
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And, Aldrin, of course, approves of using Ear Piercing Scream in any situation.
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