Also, a "Ceremony" is a term for when you are doing magical things with other players.
Whatever you can do with a Major Act, you can do with a Ceremony... but generally speaking, a Ceremony is more powerful, because it's done with another god. It requires another player, in fact.
So your expenditure is off.
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I've only seen a character at anything resembling this level of absurdity thrive exactly once, and he/she/what-the-jongo had the advantage of being written by Gengy, who I look up to as a writer.
"What-the-Jongo?"
Before you insult someone, walk a mile in their shoes.
That way, you'll be a mile away, and have their shoes!
Alas, even I, the wonderful, handsome, and humble Gengy can make mistakes sometimes.
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I've only seen a character at anything resembling this level of absurdity thrive exactly once, and he/she/what-the-jongo had the advantage of being written by Gengy, who I look up to as a writer.
"What-the-Jongo?"
Before you insult someone, walk a mile in their shoes.
That way, you'll be a mile away, and have their shoes!
My attempts at writing my character's ascension quest has lead me to conclude that said ascension is by far the least interesting thing about him. His time immediately before godhood was spent slacking off in a forest and wandering through human settlements stealing stuff and spying on people. He does almost nothing of note and the closest he gets to interacting with people is looking menacing if he's discovered mid crime and running away or beating people up if that doesn't work.
The culmination of his quest, when his latent godhood manifests, he sees a girl listening to seashells, decides making a necklace of them would give him the ability to communicate (makes it happen because he's a god to be and is under the misconception that it should), and then rescues a nearby village from a monster.
The thing that caused him to ascend wasn't defeating the monster (the monster ran away), it was finally empathizing with something or someone other than himself and deciding to help them.
As a backstory for a very young god, it leads to an interesting character who will learn and mature; his worldview isn't solidified and he has some real personality flaws and a mountain of ignorance to get through.
As a story in its own right its banal.
I believe it holds within it all the elements of an ascension quest,he overcomes great adversity, gains great spiritual knowledge and power, and preforms heroic deeds, but prior to becoming a god, most of my character's life was really dull.
Hey guys! I'm glad to see this is alive and strong.
It's been a while since I had too leave, and I'm willing to bring Frellon back from... wherever he's been recently... If you're all ok with me doing that.
Out of curiosity, did anybody do much with him? I kind of left it up to you guys back there, as circumstance demanded. I'm reading through the archive, but I thought I'd ask here, too.
My attempts at writing my character's ascension quest has lead me to conclude that said ascension is by far the least interesting thing about him. His time immediately before godhood was spent slacking off in a forest and wandering through human settlements stealing stuff and spying on people. He does almost nothing of note and the closest he gets to interacting with people is looking menacing if he's discovered mid crime and running away or beating people up if that doesn't work.
The culmination of his quest, when his latent godhood manifests, he sees a girl listening to seashells, decides making a necklace of them would give him the ability to communicate (makes it happen because he's a god to be and is under the misconception that it should), and then rescues a nearby village from a monster.
The thing that caused him to ascend wasn't defeating the monster (the monster ran away), it was finally empathizing with something or someone other than himself and deciding to help them.
As a backstory for a very young god, it leads to an interesting character who will learn and mature; his worldview isn't solidified and he has some real personality flaws and a mountain of ignorance to get through.
As a story in its own right its banal.
I believe it holds within it all the elements of an ascension quest,he overcomes great adversity, gains great spiritual knowledge and power, and preforms heroic deeds, but prior to becoming a god, most of my character's life was really dull.
I'm having a similar problem, though I have some ideas for how I want to do it...
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I'm having a similar problem, though I have some ideas for how I want to do it...
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My attempts at writing my character's ascension quest has lead me to conclude that said ascension is by far the least interesting thing about him. His time immediately before godhood was spent slacking off in a forest and wandering through human settlements stealing stuff and spying on people. He does almost nothing of note and the closest he gets to interacting with people is looking menacing if he's discovered mid crime and running away or beating people up if that doesn't work.
The culmination of his quest, when his latent godhood manifests, he sees a girl listening to seashells, decides making a necklace of them would give him the ability to communicate (makes it happen because he's a god to be and is under the misconception that it should), and then rescues a nearby village from a monster.
The thing that caused him to ascend wasn't defeating the monster (the monster ran away), it was finally empathizing with something or someone other than himself and deciding to help them.
As a backstory for a very young god, it leads to an interesting character who will learn and mature; his worldview isn't solidified and he has some real personality flaws and a mountain of ignorance to get through.
As a story in its own right its banal.
I believe it holds within it all the elements of an ascension quest,he overcomes great adversity, gains great spiritual knowledge and power, and preforms heroic deeds, but prior to becoming a god, most of my character's life was really dull.
Lady, Dawg. You guys have great outlines of ascension already. I wasn't kidding, Mabn, when I said that writing your ancestors would be a great way to show ascension.
You already have a great idea; build on the story you've already made. Make each of Saluko's Ancestors a good sized post, and a flesh out their story. THEN do one or two good sized posts on Saluko himself. If you have some boring bits after slaying the beast, glaze over them and get to the good stuff.
Scow, you've got a Queen. How did she become queen? What was she before? You chose to go the human-ish person becomes a god. Well, godhood is after ascension... Being human? That's before, and that's what we want to hear about in the ascension quest.
Both of you, and the other new players:
Let the characters grow as the game grows. Your ascension should also be your character's re-birth. How will they act? How will they feel? Who do you turn to, if you are in need of help? WOULD you turn to someone?
Find the questions that build a character, and let yourself grow.
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Hey guys! I'm glad to see this is alive and strong.
It's been a while since I had too leave, and I'm willing to bring Frellon back from... wherever he's been recently... If you're all ok with me doing that.
Out of curiosity, did anybody do much with him? I kind of left it up to you guys back there, as circumstance demanded. I'm reading through the archive, but I thought I'd ask here, too.
FRELLON!
No one's done anything with Frellon since Green Morningstar dropped him off close to his Orc-lands. Pretty sure everyone would be ok with you saying that you spent several years just making sure your people were ok!
And we're getting a Dog God of Loyalty! As God of Honor, Frellon might be a perfect person for Saluko to meet. They are in the same area, too!
Well, Frellon is a bit north of Markien, but close enough!
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I've only seen a character at anything resembling this level of absurdity thrive exactly once, and he/she/what-the-jongo had the advantage of being written by Gengy, who I look up to as a writer.
"What-the-Jongo?"
Before you insult someone, walk a mile in their shoes.
That way, you'll be a mile away, and have their shoes!
Name: Ouran, the Changer, the Masked One, He who weaves shape and shifts existence
Domain: Change
Abilities: World Alteration, Polymorphy
Themes: Shapeshifter; trickster berserker; What would happen if Tzeentch and Saulanna Ricyana Rockblossom got together and had a baby?
Description: Ouran's memories of his life began as the villain in a story of the dangers of pride: a wizard's apprentice dared to try and create new life, to rise and challenge the gods themselves. Ouran had been given numerous potions to try and create new life, but as the rituals and elixirs became more complex and powerful, Ouran did as well. Whether through fate or through chance, Ouran gained enough intellect and strength to fight his way free. The master paid for his student's hubris with his life, at the hands of the very beast she sought to change and control. As her master died, the apprentice swore to avenge him, and poured herself into new studies to kill the beast she had wrought.
As Ouran ran, he found himself hunted constantly by man and beast alike, seeing him as nothing more than a monster that needed to be slain. His form would not stop shifting, and so he was forced to change how he behaved, fought and even thought every step of his journey. At the end, he found himself beset by the wizard's apprentice. The wizard blasted Ouran with her arcane might, and he fell to the Sea of Jongo. In her arrogance, the apprentice believed the creature dead.
Perhaps this is where his tale would have ended, had it not been for a chance encounter. A Jongoscion was nearby in the form of a dolphin, fighting for her life against a large squid. When Ouran entered the sea, he joined the battle and helped her drive the creature back. Perhaps fascinated by his shifting form, or perhaps believeing him another of her kind, she took him to shore and, as thanks for saving her life, taught Ouran how to maintain his forms. He then hunted down the wizard, engaged her in one final, titanic battle for supremacy, and slayed her.
At that moment, where the wizard finally lay dead, the Band of Chaos came to Ouran. Even the artifact's creator, the whimsical Jongo, cannot explain everything the Band does. This was one such event. Ouran, the little shapechanging raccoon monstrosity, was empowered by the band of chaos and ascended to godhood.
No one will ever understand how or why, but the results are clear enough: Ouran became the god of change - the shapeshifting trickster, the Changer, the Masked One, He who weaves shape and shifts existence. Always he would bear the dark mask of the raccoon, but all else - from his ears to his tail to the very world around him - would be his to shift and weave as he desired.
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Lady, Dawg. You guys have great outlines of ascension already. I wasn't kidding, Mabn, when I said that writing your ancestors would be a great way to show ascension.
You already have a great idea; build on the story you've already made. Make each of Saluko's Ancestors a good sized post, and a flesh out their story. THEN do one or two good sized posts on Saluko himself. If you have some boring bits after slaying the beast, glaze over them and get to the good stuff.
Saluko is another player, I'm Khrith. Khrith knows so little of his ancestry he assumes he was human because they're the only thing he's seen that looks like him.
No one's done anything with Frellon since Green Morningstar dropped him off close to his Orc-lands. Pretty sure everyone would be ok with you saying that you spent several years just making sure your people were ok!
And we're getting a Dog God of Loyalty! As God of Honor, Frellon might be a perfect person for Saluko to meet. They are in the same area, too!
Well, Frellon is a bit north of Markien, but close enough!
Alrighty! That makes things a bit easier.
If I recall correctly, There was some army tearing things up over where the orcs were. Is that the same army as the one that went knocking on Carolinus's gates? Or is it still out and about? Or Both? (The summary doesn't say the Titan army was defeated...)
Saluko is another player, I'm Khrith. Khrith knows so little of his ancestry he assumes he was human because they're the only thing he's seen that looks like him.
Apologies! New people. I get confused.
You are Wilderness, right?
Your Vignettes in the OOC thread are actually a good start. Not all heroes have positively EPIC tales.
Heck, if I break it down, here's what Jongo did for the first few parts of his ascension quest:
- cried
- talked with a mermaid
- swam with dolphins
- ran away from sharks
It wasn't until Jongo ran across the Alboleth that she got to be heroic.
And even after that? Jongo's whole plan was, pretty much, to throw himself into the deepest, darkest Abyss... and try to live.
NOT a good idea. Only because of Leviathan did Jongo manage to survive.
So. There are many ways to make things that would seem boring... be exciting!
How does Khrith first wake up/become self-aware?
You mention that Khrith learns that insects are good for eating... who taught him? Or, if he had to learn himself, what forced him to learn to eat?
After Khrith is able to feed and keep himself alive... what is the first major challenge he faces? Is it a predator? Is it dealing with another living person, who can think and speak?
Your ascension quest should show up how you come to be what you are!
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I've only seen a character at anything resembling this level of absurdity thrive exactly once, and he/she/what-the-jongo had the advantage of being written by Gengy, who I look up to as a writer.
"What-the-Jongo?"
Before you insult someone, walk a mile in their shoes.
That way, you'll be a mile away, and have their shoes!
You mention that Khrith learns that insects are good for eating... who taught him? Or, if he had to learn himself, what forced him to learn to eat?
After Khrith is able to feed and keep himself alive... what is the first major challenge he faces? Is it a predator? Is it dealing with another living person, who can think and speak?
Your ascension quest should show up how you come to be what you are!
Khrith has no idea how he became self aware or learned to eat. If he is human he wouldn't form memories that early, but one way or another he can't recall (nor can he recall any parents he may have had, although he thinks there was some sort of being with him at some point to early to recollect, maybe they taught him). Once he was alone in the forest he pretty much put anything he could grab in his mouth and gave anything that didn't come back out a second try. He settled upon his hunt for insects once he moved on to giving preference to things that didn't cause horrible pain during and after digestion.
I'm not sure Khrith understands the concept of a challenge, the closest concepts he's familiar with are 'objective' and 'time he almost died'. The second includes the first years of his life, so his first major challenge was either his first memory or happened before that.
Alrighty! That makes things a bit easier.
If I recall correctly, There was some army tearing things up over where the orcs were. Is that the same army as the one that went knocking on Carolinus's gates? Or is it still out and about? Or Both? (The summary doesn't say the Titan army was defeated...)
There all currently sleeping at Markein while Carolinus speaks with the titans leader. So nothing major until Caro is done.
To avoid harming the sanity of the DM I can no longer:
* Cast flesh to stone on a annoying Druid
** Cast Rock to mud on a Druid statue
*** Scoop mud into little ceramic pots
**** Plant tree's in individual ceramic pots
***** Claim that I have helped them become one with nature
Tell us, then, Mabn, of each objective, and of each time Khrith almost died.
That will be your ascension quest.
I can't wait to see it!
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I've only seen a character at anything resembling this level of absurdity thrive exactly once, and he/she/what-the-jongo had the advantage of being written by Gengy, who I look up to as a writer.
"What-the-Jongo?"
Before you insult someone, walk a mile in their shoes.
That way, you'll be a mile away, and have their shoes!
Hey Gengy, assuming that I'm roleplaying when Vorax was still king of Carne (wait, does that mean he hasn't eaten the spirit yet? The spirit isn't there anymore, right? If that's the case, I'll have to change the roleplay to when he's impaled and waiting), can, uh, I introduce people of them Jongoscion, people with startling green eyes wandering over?
So the important thing here is for Vorax to figure out his timeline.
Though we have said time is a bit fluid - for story reasons - there is a solid progression through time. Here are some (story related!) facts, in order:
FACT 1 - Baz'Auran created the Disk
FACT 2 - Of the godly children, Jongo was born first. For a complete order of Baz'Auran's children, see the original post of the OOC.
FACT 3 - The Disk was still being shaped as Baz'Auran's children were being born.
FACT 4 - Kalandor was the last born. After Kalandor, there was a period of time that many things could have happened.
FACT 5 - The Fall happened. In game terms, this was Turn 0. Here is where many spirits were scattered throughout the disk, trying to save Baz'Auran's children and themselves. The moon turns red.
FACT 6 - Stories of new heroes begin to be told. Slowly, the Heroes of the Fall become gods.
FACT 7 - Jongo begins to search for his/her siblings. Turn 1 starts. The time between now, and the moon turning red is... fluid. Very fluid. Many things happened, and it's hard to say just how many years it has been. Could have been one or two. Could have been decades.
FACT 8 - The plot synopsis described for Turn 1, which should have been read, happens. It takes maybe - and we're generously stretching things - maybe a year for Turn 1 to finish.
FACT 9 - The Puppeteer is beaten back, Kalandor is released, other evils begin to show, and Turn 2 starts.
FACT 10 - Turn 2 plays out. It lasts again, maybe a year. There is NO break between Turn 1 and Turn 2.
FACT 11 - As Turn 2 closes, the Jongoscion are born.
FACT 12 - After 50 years, Turn 3 starts, and the Diskborn Gods begin to emerge.
Soooo... would I mind if there were Jongoscion in Vorax's kingdom of Carne? No. No I would not mind.
However.
You say that you want him to eat a Spirit that fell from the White City?
Then your timeline is a bit... off. You'll need to explain how a fallen Spirit has lasted that long in the desert for your kingdom to have been around all the way to... oh, about 40 years before Turn 3 starts. Because no Jongoscion will be ready to walk on land until at least 10 years after Jongo makes them.
From what I understand of Vorax, he was a king BEFORE the moon turns red.
Then the moon turns red, he finds a fallen spirit, eats it, and things happen that cause him to be staked in the desert for years and years and years, until finally, the Church of Hunger frees him.
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In my opinion - and please disregard it if you have a better idea! - your ascension quest should start with Vorax being crowned king. And then the remainder of that post will be all about King Vorax having unusual appetites, so we get to see what Vorax was like as a non-magical human with more power then he - perhaps - knows what to do with.
Your next post could be finding and eating the Spirit.
Followed by what happens because of that mistake (?)
Then the - and I'm going by what I understand of Vorax - years of being left alone, unable to eat or do anything.
Finally, the spark ignites, the Church of Hunger finds Vorax, and you go back to your original post in the IC thread. Full circle. Nice story. Please go directly to start, do not collect $200, but DO make sure to get your Domain from Dark.
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If somehow that all happens within the past 40 years? Then sure! One or two - but not many - Jongoscion may have ended up in Carne.
Does that answer your question(s)?
**also, I should mention, all "facts" can be altered by the mere whim of our DarkDM. Keep that in mind! His power is mighty. His grace is wonderful. His shotgun always rolls critical successes when faced with ponies.
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I've only seen a character at anything resembling this level of absurdity thrive exactly once, and he/she/what-the-jongo had the advantage of being written by Gengy, who I look up to as a writer.
"What-the-Jongo?"
Before you insult someone, walk a mile in their shoes.
That way, you'll be a mile away, and have their shoes!
But if you are creating a threat of the "God-slaying" magnitude, and intend to kick it's butt, it's probably better to come up with something yourself.
If you are going to have it kill you...? You could get Dark to help.
Or again... come up with something yourself, and kick it's butt later.
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I've only seen a character at anything resembling this level of absurdity thrive exactly once, and he/she/what-the-jongo had the advantage of being written by Gengy, who I look up to as a writer.
"What-the-Jongo?"
Before you insult someone, walk a mile in their shoes.
That way, you'll be a mile away, and have their shoes!
To avoid harming the sanity of the DM I can no longer:
* Cast flesh to stone on a annoying Druid
** Cast Rock to mud on a Druid statue
*** Scoop mud into little ceramic pots
**** Plant tree's in individual ceramic pots
***** Claim that I have helped them become one with nature
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So it looks like my last post concluded with Nieve and her followers entering the Quiet Lands, with the intent being that they'd meet up with Avyra. (My intent, I mean. They had no idea where they were going.) Need to figure out what's going to happen instead, and how much of my/hi-mi's original plans I want to keep or scrap.
Tech, were you planning anything with the Quiet Lands or the Death domain?
But if you are creating a threat of the "God-slaying" magnitude, and intend to kick it's butt, it's probably better to come up with something yourself.
If you are going to have it kill you...? You could get Dark to help.
Or again... come up with something yourself, and kick it's butt later.
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A stupid god could be killed by a single assassin, our bodies are much tougher than a mortal, but we are far from immortal.
However, Dark tends not to do such things as assassins and sharp blades, and we could probably heal the wound causing bleeding to death.
Edit: Those the things that are a threat to multiple Divines aware of its presence. Also, Damn you Ninja.
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So it looks like my last post concluded with Nieve and her followers entering the Quiet Lands, with the intent being that they'd meet up with Avyra. (My intent, I mean. They had no idea where they were going.) Need to figure out what's going to happen instead, and how much of my/hi-mi's original plans I want to keep or scrap.
Tech, were you planning anything with the Quiet Lands or the Death domain?
I was intending to have something of adequate God-slaying prowess take out the God of Death, and then part of my ascension would be taking it out.
Also, I'm still not sure what I'm doing, so at the moment I'm just brainstorming.
I was intending to have something of adequate God-slaying prowess take out the God of Death, and then part of my ascension would be taking it out.
Also, I'm still not sure what I'm doing, so at the moment I'm just brainstorming.
Those details have already been taken into account.
Also, this is a rare case where Gengy is not entirely correct. You are all free to create threats to your non-ascended forms with impunity during the quest, but anything that could legitimately threaten a fully ascended god is my domain.
*edit*
By "those details", I am referring to the disappearance of Avyra.
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Ok then, Frellon's up to date. I'm thinking he will set off in a southernly direction, because that's where the titan army was headed 50 years ago. But we won't make much progress until exactly what happend to them 50 years ago is established.
sound good?
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Mystic -- your post sounds so cool...please format it, for the sake of my poor brain. If youre trying to write it from the perspective of the dog, thats good, but please spread it out at least a little!
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I started trying to write my ascension quest in the third person, but apparently Khrith had other ideas and the result is a rambling first person narration that, at the time of my first intended post, still hasn't gone anywhere. I still think the end result is very effective at giving depth and insight into his mannerisms and character, but due to its being in a different format than the other posts I wanted to check before posting. One of my ideas for working it in is to have him be talking to an artifact as he's crafting it, completing it as the ascension quest ends as his first major action of the next turn, but that leads to a major problem: he technically can only speak to self aware beings, speaking to, say, a normal stick would be impossible for him or at least take a minor act. So, are artifacts self aware?
So it's conceivable that there are other self aware artifacts!
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I've only seen a character at anything resembling this level of absurdity thrive exactly once, and he/she/what-the-jongo had the advantage of being written by Gengy, who I look up to as a writer.
"What-the-Jongo?"
Before you insult someone, walk a mile in their shoes.
That way, you'll be a mile away, and have their shoes!
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