In which the illustrious sonofzeal valiantly playtests homebrew.

[sonofzeal]

Originally Posted by Jarian

Oops. Well, the Third Eye Freedom and Scout's Headband are cheap, so replacing them should be pretty easy.

I ended up dropping Gauntlets of the Talon as well, since I expect her to be throwing out single massive hits rather than full attacking. And I traded up Armbands of Might for Strongarm Bracers, since they end up adding almost twice the damage (+3.5 as opposed to 2), and more consistently (every attack, not just power attacks), for only a 50% increase in price. Plus, I didn't want Thorne having a bigger sword than her.

Hmm... Armbands of Mighty Strongarm.... not enough spare gold, but still a nice thought. ^^

[Jarian]

No problem. It's your gear, so do what you want with it.

Is that everyone settled, then? If so, I'll start up the IC thread.

[sonofzeal]

Originally Posted by Jarian

No problem. It's your gear, so do what you want with it.

Is that everyone settled, then? If so, I'll start up the IC thread.

Yep, I think we're good to go! I might do a couple small updates of mundane adventuring gear - can't forget rope, if you don't have it you'll want it! - but yeah, create that IC any time you're ready.

[Jarian]

Just mark off 200 gp or whatever for miscellaneous adventuring gear; if you want it, pull it out of the pool and subtract the price. You're 12th level, I think you'd have remembered rope by now.

[Jarian]

Have at ye!

Oh, and in case you missed it before, Destined Hero.

[sonofzeal]

Originally Posted by Jarian

Have at ye!

Oh, and in case you missed it before, Destined Hero.

HO, HAHA, GUARD, TURN, PARRY, DODGE, SPIN, HA, THRUST!!!


And, I passed that link off to the fellow I mentioned. It's a bit late for me, I'll be heading off momentarily, but I'll check it out... tomorrow, probably.

[sonofzeal]

Any thoughts on Crystal of Arrow Deflection?

[Jarian]

Originally Posted by sonofzeal

Any thoughts on Crystal of Arrow Deflection?

Thoughts in thread. IC update coming shortly.

[sonofzeal]

Originally Posted by Jarian

Thoughts in thread. IC update coming shortly.

So we're yes on it applying against weaponlikes? I think it works RAW, but RAI is a little inscrutable.

I'm off to work now, but I'll post when I can.

[Jarian]

Originally Posted by sonofzeal

So we're yes on it applying against weaponlikes? I think it works RAW, but RAI is a little inscrutable.

Yes.

I'm off to work now, but I'll post when I can.

Alright. The bloodbath will start resume when you return.

Edit: By the way, Aylandra should have 30 more PP from her Charisma score. I have her down as 118 maximum PP on my end.

[sonofzeal]

Reflex for Aylandra: (1d20+6)[15] Normally +7, but Enlarge reduces Dex.

(edit) Ouch. Not unexpected though. At least she had that Shared Vigor up! I'll take the actual actions when I get home this evening. Let the glorious counterattack commence!

[sonofzeal]

If I ever offer to run four characters at the same time again?

Just shoot me. It'll be more merciful.

[Jarian]

Originally Posted by sonofzeal

If I ever offer to run four characters at the same time again?

Just shoot me. It'll be more merciful.

If you're not comfortable with it, I can still take one or two off your hands. You don't have to torture yourself just because you said you would.

[Jarian]

Oh, I need a DC 28 Will save from Theo (Supernatural ability, Spellgrace applies). Enlarge Person does increase reach, yes. Bladesurge does not provoke.

Opposed Disarm: (1d20+26)[44]

[Jarian]

Herp derp Shadow Dash Will save: (1d20+15)[25]

[sonofzeal]

DC.... 28?!? Where do you FIND these things?!?

Will (1d20+16)[20]. If it's a 1, it's a 20 instead. And if it's still a fail... well, (Su), so Banshee's doesn't apply, right?

[sonofzeal]

Actually, hey! Okay so he failed the Will. But if he still gets the attack in, he can turn THAT into a critical threat, with (1d20+16)[35] to confirm against touch AC.

[Jarian]

Originally Posted by sonofzeal

DC.... 28?!? Where do you FIND these things?!?

In my most favoritest Monster Manual ever.

It's the Fleshraker of CR 14.

And if it's still a fail... well, (Su), so Banshee's doesn't apply, right?

That's right.

Fort save vs. Equilibrium Strike (forgot it was made into a touch attack): (1d20+13)[22]

Edit: Well, that confirms, obviously. Crit damage prz.

[sonofzeal]

That's an extra.... (1d4+14)[15]

And I thiiiiink I found your monster. And if so... dayum. This thing isn't the Fleshraker of CR 14, it's the That Damn Crab of CR 14. Fleshraker is comparatively fine until the Druid casts Venomfire on it. This guy though... Theo's flubbed save might cause... uh.... issues.

[Jarian]

Okay, updating round now. Note that Aylandra's second bladesurge doesn't actually happen, since to refresh instantly it has to hit and kill, not just hit.

Still, tons o damage.

Back in ten or so with a new map!

[sonofzeal]

Originally Posted by Jarian

Okay, updating round now. Note that Aylandra's second bladesurge doesn't actually happen, since to refresh instantly it has to hit and kill, not just hit.

Still, tons o damage.

Back in ten or so with a new map!

I have to head off to sleep. I'll try to post something, but given the effort involved in some of these we may be looking at 1/day only for the big stuff. We'll see.

[Jarian]

Aylandra Will vs Frenzy: (1d20+11)[14]
Thorne Will vs Frenzy: (1d20+17)[35]
Magus Will vs Frenzy: (1d20+10)[11]

...I feel the sudden need to point out that Thorne can cast Dominate Person.

[Jarian]

And because I am so good at keeping track of things, Theo's CL check vs. SR for his Ray of Enfeeblement: (1d20+7)[13] (fizzle)

Originally Posted by sonofzeal

I have to head off to sleep. I'll try to post something, but given the effort involved in some of these we may be looking at 1/day only for the big stuff. We'll see.

If it starts to feel overwhelming, just let me know. I'd rather work something out than have you burn yourself out trying to do something you don't want to.

[sonofzeal]

Originally Posted by Jarian

And because I am so good at keeping track of things, Theo's CL check vs. SR for his Ray of Enfeeblement: [roll0] (fizzle)



If it starts to feel overwhelming, just let me know. I'd rather work something out than have you burn yourself out trying to do something you don't want to.

I'll keep with it for now. Winging aside, I do want enough stuff going on to keep me busy, and the other campaigns I'm in aren't managing that.



For the purposes of not causing a TPK, do you think I could convince you to treat Induce Blood Frenzy as a Charm/Compulsion effect? Barring that, I could try arguing semantic about coming within 10', since "coming" implies PC movement and "within" implies <10' instead of <=10'... but that's a bit nitpicky even for me, whereas the effect seems very obviously to fall under the Charm/Compulsion heading.

Otherwise... it doesn't prevent item use or use of abilities, does it? So basically 75% of my party is nova-ing at eachother in the middle of Walls of Blades. Yeeeesh.

Less nitpicky - didn't Theo steal Wall of Fire, preventing it from using it? And how did it hurt Aylandra, centered like that?


(edit the final) Did you check against Theo's Goad? I didn't see the roll. It's gotta roll a 3 or under, but that might prevent it from doing... well, quite as effectively as it did.

[Jarian]

Originally Posted by Jarian

Herp derp Shadow Dash Will save: [roll0]

It passed.

No to charm/compulsion. You can override the effects of the ability with a compulsion of your own if you wish. It's clearly a morale effect, like a Barabarian's Rage, if you ask me.

Ignore the Wall of Fire; I derped on that. I'm so good at remembering the abilities of my own classes, huh?

That being said, Wall of Fire damages anyone within 20 feet of its damaging side (inward, in this case) upon creation. You also take significantly more damage if you pass through it from either direction.

I doubt this will end in a TPK. I suspect at least one party member will survive. Play it out, since you aren't running on a single set of 'lives' for this. The exact number is hidden for each floor, but suffice it to say I accounted for the possibility of team deaths.

Edit, re: items: The only actions you're required to take each round are melee attacks to the best of your capability. A full attack if possible, a charge if not, movement + standard attack if even that fails.

[sonofzeal]

Originally Posted by Jarian

It passed.

No to charm/compulsion. You can override the effects of the ability with a compulsion of your own if you wish. It's clearly a morale effect, like a Barabarian's Rage, if you ask me.

I was thinking more like Rage, which is a compulsion effect. Hmm. Going literally, even if I Dominate them aren't they still under the effect of the ability and hence required to follow its effects?

And... I don't see a caveat about not getting affected after you save once.

Ignore the Wall of Fire; I derped on that. I'm so good at remembering the abilities of my own classes, huh?

That being said, Wall of Fire damages anyone within 20 feet of its damaging side (inward, in this case) upon creation. You also take significantly more damage if you pass through it from either direction.

I doubt this will end in a TPK. I suspect at least one party member will survive. Play it out, since you aren't running on a single set of 'lives' for this. The exact number is hidden for each floor, but suffice it to say I accounted for the possibility of team deaths.

Edit, re: items: The only actions you're required to take each round are melee attacks to the best of your capability. A full attack if possible, a charge if not, movement + standard attack if even that fails.

So... Aylandra could male a single melee attack against the nearest thing, and then act out the rest of her turn unrestricted? That seems counter to the intention. OTOH, forcing you to blow big 1/day resources against your allies gets a little ridiculous, as if it wasn't already.

[Jarian]

Originally Posted by sonofzeal

I was thinking more like Rage, which is a compulsion effect. Hmm. Going literally, even if I Dominate them aren't they still under the effect of the ability and hence required to follow its effects?

The way I've always seen it played is that you can dominate them into altering the function of their rage, basically retargeting their focus. They still have the effect of the rage, the more powerful domination is just overriding the "MUST KILL ALLIES" part.

Originally Posted by sonofzeal

And... I don't see a caveat about not getting affected after you save once.

Well, that's stupid. It's being played as an "affected once, immune 24 hours" ability here. With a save DC like that, there's no way a Ragewalker is CR 14 if it forces saves every round.

So... Aylandra could male a single melee attack against the nearest thing, and then act out the rest of her turn unrestricted? That seems counter to the intention. OTOH, forcing you to blow big 1/day resources against your allies gets a little ridiculous, as if it wasn't already.

That wasn't the intent I was trying to get across. I was saying that you have to take the most effective melee attacks you can, but I'm not going to make you activate your amulet or whatever (since it's a near-mindless rage).

[sonofzeal]

Oh right, Will of the Blades's Ionian Fervor should have kicked in against that, at a 10% chance since if the Ragewalker is close enough to trigger then he's within her threatened area. It covers spells, SLAs, and Su's, so that should work. Off chance I know, but...

(1d100)[7] - if 91-100, she's unaffected.

[sonofzeal]

That last swing of Thorne's is a crit threat.

Confirm: (1d20+16)[17], bonus damage (2d6+15)[21]



And, since the rolls were so good, it seems likely you'll need these too:

Magus Will save (1d20+10)[24]
Theo Will save (1d20+16)[36]
Aylandra Will save (1d20+11)[14]

[Jarian]

Thorne downs the creature with the first set of attacks. Continue.