'kay. You do kind of take a while though, with those long posts. I think you'd benefit if you just made more frequent, shorter posts
I probably would, true. But a lot of stuff I'm putting in right now is character impression and world building. It may not be massively important now - not all of it at least - but quite a bit of it will become so.
And yeah, did you really think that you wouldn't get noticed?
Also, you may post now
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Edit: Ignore me, I missed a sentence of her dialogue at the end there that was a prompt for us to ask questions, so I am dumb
So, ah, what now? It seems like she could have talked a little longer, if only to point us in teh right direction. 'Hey, the Cloverfield monster will be here in a minute to eat us, you should escape and try and get around to seeing our leader at some point, maybe even saving a few of us if it isn't much trouble.' I like being left to my own initiative, but all I'm really going to do is ask 'so, what now' unless I get creative, which is always a possibility
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Well, replied.
I hope my post is flexible enough that the others can do other things, such as questioning others, preparing for combat or such. Cymoril kinda got her own stuff to deal with right now.
Well, replied.
I hope my post is flexible enough that the others can do other things, such as questioning others, preparing for combat or such. Cymoril kinda got her own stuff to deal with right now.
Well...that went about as well as could be expected. Excuse me whilst I activate stage one of operation: Fix Cymoril.
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Sense Motive check, and i give myself a +10 because the lie is far-fetched from Cymorils POV. And also because aggressive actions really isn't the best to snap someone in Cymorils stage of grief out of it, to be honest.
Ah, finished my equipment list, think I'l trade off a feat or two for those ones Serafina made. Don't you just love it when you look over your sheet and realise you miscalculated something to be worse than it actually is? According to my recalculations, My unarmed attack bonus is actually +14! Yay!
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Regarding equipment:
I can actually craft magic weapons (Device) and armor (Costume). So you might want to hold off on them during character creation, because i can craft them for 55% of the price (well, half, but some commission for spent time might occur. Or not, i don't know yet, i never played a item crafter before).
And yes, Snowfire, i thought you would be that cruel. For some reasons my GMs are always very cruel to my character when i try to roleplay negative emotions, maybe they think i can't do it otherwise, i have no idea.
Cymoril would have come to that turnaround event (be strong for others instead of herself) on her own eventually, but nice way of snapping her into that (yes, not really out of it, it's just a focus shift, the grief and hurt are still there).
Eh. Not sure how we'll actually handle loot, since this sin't exactly your ordinary dungeon raider or anything. Maybe every time we level up we just get more cash to spend on our costume? Either way, I think my starting equipment is probably good enough, though some of it is pretty expensive... hm... maybe I'll hold back on the Monk Robes until we're out danger and can get some crafting in? I haven't actually used my Costume yet, so it's kind of nebulous right now what it consists of. Good thing too, since I was going to quickly exchang my Stylish feat for some of the ones that you made.
Speaking of, I was thinking of taking that Shield of Light feat since it seemed appropriate. I was going to make the shield some sort of element of the costume (obviously) like stylish greaves-leg warmers. Or maybe just a pretty stylised shield. Or a helmet. Or natural endurance? Either way, with my unarmed attacks, I don't have any off-hand penalties or anything to worry about so that should be fine if I use a heavy shield, right? Ooh, I know, how about a cool jacket worn like a cape. That's iconic of anime street-born badasses, right? Like Kanji and... others whose names I don't remember well enough to Google image search
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Serafina, any other game and I might - might - do the same as them. But doing that here? In this type of game? After what Cymoril's just been through?
Hell. No.
On the subject of loot, crafting, etc. Trace is just about right. When you level up you will get access to your new WBL. At present at least. That will likely change (upwards).
And I think that at this point, we need to give the other two players who are not online a chance to respond before we do what I said I was going to try not to do here and leave them behind. Next encounter will begin either tomorrow or the day after - depending on how fast those other responses come.
Oh, and here's a preview of what you're going to be facing. I am not telling you how big it is.
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Because if we're using called shots, my strategy for tanking will shift from stand in the way of things to breaking things' arms so they can't punch my ally-things.
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there's only one 1 male character that I don't even think is canonical compared to the possibly hundreds of female residents
Now that's just plain untrue. There are at least 3 male characters (Morichika Rinnosuke, Unzan, and the Unnamed giant catfish). Also while Rinnosuke may not appear in any games, he is in some of the various books, such as Curiosities of Lotus Asia, which is an official book written by ZUN.
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Also, you are really risking an AoO when you may be low enough on hitpoints that one good hit knocks you into negative territory? When Snowfire is outright saying that we're facing something bigger very very soon? Yikes!
Not just risking - taking to the face. I honestly have no clue how the monster missed Makoto, her AC is like 16 without her costume on. I was kinda banking on not taking enough damage to go down - and if the attack had KOed Makoto, it would have been rather fitting for her first fight. Her device is almost suicidal in its aggression (though that might be assigning it a degree of self-awareness it doesn't possesses - it's a rabid dogbrain AI, at absolute best), and she hasn't really learned to curb its bloodlust yet.
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I just proposed a few defender feats for the Magical Girl.
Combat Reflexes that works of Constitution.
Increased threatened area and a way to stop enemy movement in it
Shields as part of your Costume, and Combat Expertise that benefits others
Demoralize against enemies that hurt your allies, and said enemies are then compelled to attack you.
So, Snowfire, will you allow (any of) these feats in our game?
Have to say I like these. I'll offer fuller commentary when I get back to working on the class thread, but at the moment I'll just point out two things.
One, you might want to mention that the Con-based Protective Reflexes doesn't stack with its core-rulebook cousin. It isn't something I see coming up very often, but I can't say I'm fond of the idea of a character having a dozen AoOs each turn. Two, How Dare You's 'able to affect creatures that would normally be immune to it' clause seems a little odd, since it seems to imply that you can intimidate mindless creatures. I can potentially see an ability that lets you rattle someone who is normally fearless (say, a paladin), but intimidating a brainless golem or ooze is just silly.
In all honesty though, I'd just nix the clause - the feat is already quite strong, and fear effects are rare enough (compared to how common things that reference them are) that I like to give things that are immune to fear a moment to shine every now and then. And there's something delightfully thematic about the dark knight or the terrible automaton simply ignoring a magical girl's pleas.
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Also, i am curious what you have in stock. Oh, sure, i normally would not want such a thing, but considering all your teasing, my curiosity must be satisfied or it will go on a rampage and start eating libraries. And who would want that?
Speaking of libraries, I wonder if Cymoril has considered L-Space as a viable route home? It'd be a trick to navigate, but I've always been firmly convinced that the Infinite Library houses an orangutang somewhere in its depths.
I'm slightly wary of giving Mistbreaker Monk qualifications by default. The monk is sad and lonely - in PF and 3.5 alike he's outdone in almost every category by his peers. Style feats are the Monk's single consolation and saving grace, and I'm not sure I have the heart to tear that out from under him.
As for shield-using magical girls... they may be rare, but my favorite magical girl of all time uses a shield as her primary 'weapon'. They'll have stuff to work with, as soon as I can think of it.
Also, I'm starting to get an organizational headache from the mix of 3.5 and Pathfinder stuff this class is accumulating - I really need to think of some better way of organizing it all...
She's a main playable character in the game in the above linked video.
There's also hundreds of fully-animated and original fan productions, game mods, entire GAMES, songs, manga and apple-carving stop motion videos for that series, a lot of which centre on her, ranging from comedic to action packed to sometimes a little moving. For instance... (she's the blonde one in the cool hat by the way)
She dresses like a stereotypical witch, lives in a world with magical lesbians with reality shattering powers*. She rides a broomstick, dodges clouds of high speed, all encompassing energy blasts, is a known thief, a lover of pre-battle banter and taunts, is pretty good with magic, and carries some sort of super-powered fire-based octagon-shaped artefact that she uses as a focus for her energy to occassionally shoot a huge kamehameha-type beam attack that can destroy mountains or knock a health bar off teh standard, balls-hard level boss.
*I say lesbains because everytime someone sits down to make some sort of love in that universe they run into the snag that there's only one 1 male character that I don't even think is canonical compared to the possibly hundreds of female residents, so they make do extrapolating out a few lines shared between two characters in one day and interpret it to a deeper relationship. Though in fairness, they'd have to do the same for male on female lovin' seeing as these games aren't exactly story heavy
She's also not technically the main character since Reimu was the protagonist of teh first few games and so gets prime placement on any given game's cover, but most people prefer their mischievous witch to the kind of dull shrine maiden when they think of the game's hero. So if Reimu Hakurei was Superman, Marisa would be Batman - not as iconic of her genre, but better liked due to being awesomer. Though their abilities are pretty similar, so that's where teh similie breaks down somewaht - Batman can't fly so fast that he travels back in time, after all
Cool. I'll go render her then. Sel, you may just have yourself a sample NPC. Or possily an archetype. She doesn't use any sort of device unless you count her broom, but I've seen her smack people with that in more comedic moments. She does have that one artefact that I think works like a staff and shoots that giant energy beam, so maybe that counts, though it couldn't be used as a weapon. And while she can fly, to my knowledge she can't do so under her own power, instead relying on her broom. I could always use a simple Broom of Flying, or I could make some ACF to make the Broom a focus for Weightless instead. I'll mull it over.
You make me sad I don't have sound available right now.
But yes, Marisa is awesome. I'm currently working (or rather brainstorming) an archetype for a somewhat more roguish, mischievous take on the MG. The idea of swapping Device for a tricky trinket of some sort is an interesting one - I'll think on it.
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Well...that went about as well as could be expected. Excuse me whilst I activate stage one of operation: Fix Cymoril.
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Sense Motive check, and i give myself a +10 because the lie is far-fetched from Cymorils POV. And also because aggressive actions really isn't the best to snap someone in Cymorils stage of grief out of it, to be honest.
Mental breakdown? Apply combination of lies, bullying, and ventriloquism!
Really though, Makoto is projecting heavily right now - dealing with Cymoril means she doesn't have to slow down and think about herself. The two are a rather interesting contrast though - Cymoril is having issues with letting personal feelings get in the way of the moment at hand.
Makoto is the reverse, focusing heavily on the immediate situation as a way of evading her own emotions. A life spent more or less homeless has afforded her one luxury at least - she's always had something pressing with which to put off introspection. This... may or may not backfire at some point.
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Rinnosuke was the one I was thinking of - he's not in the games, so I generally discount him. Mr McCloudPuff isn't exactly human, so he hardly counts as male all things considered and... Unnamed Giant Catfish? Seriously, that exists? I suppose scratching that hard at the bottom of the barrel is hilarious though, if that was the intention.
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Anyway, I'll help you out with that if I find the time, probably on Monday or so, to create that archetype I promised. A bullet-hell type Magical Girl. Perhaps we could sort of mesh them together with the thief thing and just put Marisa as the Paragon of the Archetype?
Hey, Monks in PF get cool things besides Style feats. Like those crapload of grappling feats in Ultimate Combat that can let you break people's necks, or the Dimensional feats that can let you full attack through dimensions. But still, since this is an all magical girl campaign, how about we use the clause that magical girls just get nice things to keep things moving along?
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Aaaand... Makoto's honour has been challenged, as will everyone's be in turn around the ball of aggression that is On-Battlefield Umiko. Don't worry, she'll be nicer when she's used to you, and she 'knows her place'.
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Okay, last post, then some dreaming!
(aka sleeping, but thats boring compared to lucid dreams)
First, thanks for your opinion on my work!
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One, you might want to mention that the Con-based Protective Reflexes doesn't stack with its core-rulebook cousin. It isn't something I see coming up very often, but I can't say I'm fond of the idea of a character having a dozen AoOs each turn. Two, How Dare You's 'able to affect creatures that would normally be immune to it' clause seems a little odd, since it seems to imply that you can intimidate mindless creatures. I can potentially see an ability that lets you rattle someone who is normally fearless (say, a paladin), but intimidating a brainless golem or ooze is just silly.
You can't really utilize such large amounts of AoOs anyway. Unless you're up against a horde of Kobolds or something, or more likely simply have ways to burn of AoOs to gain effects even if no one provokes.
And yes, i DID intend that feat to be able to affect mindless creatures. That's what the whole "shake them to their core"-stuff was about.
It's your class though, so if you want it changed, feel free to do so.
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I'm slightly wary of giving Mistbreaker Monk qualifications by default. The monk is sad and lonely - in PF and 3.5 alike he's outdone in almost every category by his peers. Style feats are the Monk's single consolation and saving grace, and I'm not sure I have the heart to tear that out from under him
Well, yes, that's a point.
However, i am generally more concerned with "can i play a certain style of character" instead of "can i play this precise class".
And can i play a unarmed martial arts master that kicks ass when i play a Mistbreaker with Style feats, instead of a Monk with Style feats? Hell yes!
Besides, the Monk actually does get cool, effective things in Pathfinder.
But again, your class, your call.
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Well yes, i've found that myself. When in doubt i prefer to design straight for Pathfinder (it's just the better system, and when you want something from 3.5 you can always use it anyway).
But i always tried to use careful wording that includes both system where possible. For example, i usually planned to work my Style-feats of Diplomacy (because i kinda forgot that the Magical Girl had Sense Motive as a class skill for whatever crazy reason) - or specifically, of "Gather Information". That doesn't exist in Pathfinder anymore, so i wrote "X ranks in Diplomacy OR Gather Information" into the prerequisites.
When necessary, i'd just write the adaptation to either 3.5 or Pathfinder into the "Special"-section of feats and such.
Or just make a "Adaptation to 3.5" (or Pathfinder)-post and list all the things that are changed for that edition in it across the board. It's not like people can't click a link in a thread or something.
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But yes, Marisa is awesome. I'm currently working (or rather brainstorming) an archetype for a somewhat more roguish, mischievous take on the MG. The idea of swapping Device for a tricky trinket of some sort is an interesting one - I'll think on it.
Ooh yes, that does sound like a lot of fun! I'll shoot you some ideas if i have them.
Last but not least:
Damn, you're really trying to break Cymoril again, do you?
Because you've just
- mocked her, specifically her emotions
- reminded her of one of the triggers of her breakdown
- were physically rough to her
- hit her on the back, which is a place she can not directly see, thus potentially bad
- ignored her right after all of that
Maybe that works on some people, but i've never met anyone on whom it does, and Cymoril certainly isn't one.
Cymoril is already filed under Umiko's crazy brain in the 'weaklings' section, specifically the 'weaklings who need to be whipped into shape' subsection. As a player I know having an emotional breakdown is not a sign of weakness, but try telling that to Umiko. If the poor girl doesn't exert herself soon, Umiko will totally make her a student in teh ways of Battle Philosophy. (which involves a lot of posing widely and shouting 'BEEFCAKE!' between adventures)
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Gah, that post took far longer than it should. Most of which was finding songs to use for Daina's question. Speaking of which, the ♫ notes when she changes songs, or skips to a different part of the same song. As for what songs she's using, they would be (in order) Let Me Introduce Lyrics by Kasia Klich, You Can Call Me Al by Paul Simon, a recording of Daina's mother saying her name, and Who Are You by the Who.
Anyway, Daina is of the opinion it is useful to know who she is working with in life and death situations, even if it means revealing she can't speak.
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Rinnosuke was the one I was thinking of - he's not in the games, so I generally discount him. Mr McCloudPuff isn't exactly human, so he hardly counts as male all things considered and... Unnamed Giant Catfish? Seriously, that exists? I suppose scratching that hard at the bottom of the barrel is hilarious though, if that was the intention.
Also, I'd point out that the Unnamed Giant Catfish was the final boss of 12.3, and hardly a minor character in the game, so I wouldn't quite think it scraping the bottom of the barrel. Scraping the bottom of the barrel would be bringing up the theoretically male form of SinGyoku from Highly Responsive to Players. That said, it does seem a bit like grasping at straws.
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I didn't play that one. If memory serves, it made my PC crash so hard the game deleted itself, so I didn't bother downloading it again - I'm not a believer in fate, but some things you just have to take as a sign.
Wait, if it's unnamed, how do you know it was male?
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I didn't play that one. If memory serves, it made my PC crash so hard the game deleted itself, so I didn't bother downloading it again - I'm not a believer in fate, but some things you just have to take as a sign.
Wait, if it's unnamed, how do you know it was male?
Pronouns. Also it's the avatar of a male god.
Anyway, I'll post Daina's response to the beat in a moment.
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Also I've got an idea for a surprise for you TraceHyde but I won't beable to post it for at least 20-30 minutes because I need to drop some family off.
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'kay, I like surprises. It's pretty late here, but I'll try and hang around anyway. Is this something that should be done BEFORE or AFTER I get my beat?
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Well, just about picked something for the beat. Anyway, it occures to me that Perform (Disc Jockey) might do with the option to grant the bonus to perform (freestyle) checks in place of perform (dance) checks, chosen when one starts the perform (disc jockey) check. If that is allowed, that's what Daina will be doing in my post.
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