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Old 10-18-2012, 01:26 PM   Top  -  End  -  #871
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Well, later on, the type of Pokemon may modify the chances of what area of the Dream World you get.
...Well that explains a lot! I used Keldeo last night and got nothing but Sparkling Sea and Icy Cave. I'll try putting a rock or ground type to sleep tonight, to see if I get the Mountain (really want Truant Durant, since I am still missing some competitive items like Choice Band and Air Balloon).
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Old 10-18-2012, 01:29 PM   Top  -  End  -  #872
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So, after beating the 2nd gym, I've been toying around with the movies thing... it's... kind of interesting I suppose?

I mean, I do like the idea of "complete this objective in a battle, in this many rounds." Always wanted something like that, and I guess if it has to be in movies, that's cool too.

But so far, I'm not seeing much actual 'reward' from doing it. I see the movies make "Billions of Pokedollars," but I'm not seeing a penny of it. I'm the actor, right? Shouldn't I be getting paid?

The extent of what I'm getting is the 6 lemonades I get from the fanboy outside the theater.
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Old 10-18-2012, 01:31 PM   Top  -  End  -  #873
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I forget, we aren't allowed to talk about emulation in here, are we? Even if you've legally followed internet dirrections to get your disc and game stuff into your computer?
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Thanks for the help, I got it to work. Though I was only able to bring one pokemon back from the Dream World (wishing at the tree lets you pick one, and then after that you can't go back to the island until you've sent that pokemon on it seems). It seems like you should be able to get more since there's slots for 10 pokemon when it says what it's sending back, am I doing something wrong?
The extra slots on the Friend Board are for promotional Pokemon.

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...Well that explains a lot! I used Keldeo last night and got nothing but Sparkling Sea and Icy Cave. I'll try putting a rock or ground type to sleep tonight, to see if I get the Mountain (really want Truant Durant, since I am still missing some competitive items like Choice Band and Air Balloon).
This may just be me, but it seems like the area unlock requirements changed from B/W; for the first three days after I linked my B2 to my PGL account, I got mostly the Sea and the Cave, with an occasional Sky or Mansion, with an Audino tucked in. I even spent five minutes doing nothing but entering and exiting the Island of Dreams and didn't see the Forest once.

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This may just be me, but it seems like the area unlock requirements changed from B/W; for the first three days after I linked my B2 to my PGL account, I got mostly the Sea and the Cave, with an occasional Sky or Mansion, with an Audino tucked in. I even spent five minutes doing nothing but entering and exiting the Island of Dreams and didn't see the Forest once.
...Huh. That's a possibility.

I need to find a good partner for Heatran for the PWT. I'm running one now with an Air Balloon and Will-o-Wisp/Fire Blast/Substitute/Earth Power, and while Suicune and Dragonite do fine, I sometimes have trouble with bulky water types that know ice moves and strong Fighting types. I'm thinking of replacing Suicune with a Water Absorb Jellicent, since it can learn about the same kinds of moves and boasts an immunity to Fighting too, but it's weak to Dark-type moves, which a lot of Fighting types usually run for Boltbeam-esque coverage...
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So, after beating the 2nd gym, I've been toying around with the movies thing... it's... kind of interesting I suppose?

I mean, I do like the idea of "complete this objective in a battle, in this many rounds." Always wanted something like that, and I guess if it has to be in movies, that's cool too.

But so far, I'm not seeing much actual 'reward' from doing it. I see the movies make "Billions of Pokedollars," but I'm not seeing a penny of it. I'm the actor, right? Shouldn't I be getting paid?

The extent of what I'm getting is the 6 lemonades I get from the fanboy outside the theater.
I haven't played with it much, but you get "fans" who come visit in Join Avenue (a feature you run into a little later). I think the number of fans that visit may be tied to how popular your movies are? I'm not sure.
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Old 10-18-2012, 03:18 PM   Top  -  End  -  #877
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I haven't played with it much, but you get "fans" who come visit in Join Avenue (a feature you run into a little later). I think the number of fans that visit may be tied to how popular your movies are? I'm not sure.
Thanks, I was starting to wonder the use. That helps.

On a side note, unrelated, caught a Magnemite in the factory... I notice that he's very popular among the community for at least early game. I caught a Mareep earlier in-game, and I'm wondering which I should use as my electric type.

While it's apparently commonplace to use Magnemite, and I've never actually used one in a playthrough, I have used a Mareep in several previous games.

Ho hum...
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It seems like you should be able to get more since there's slots for 10 pokemon when it says what it's sending back, am I doing something wrong?
What Ryuho Tsugu said- you're only allowed to send back 1 pokemon a day under normal circumstances. When they're running a promotion, though, you can bring those in addition to the 1 pokemon a day. They... Haven't really gotten serious about the Dream World, honestly. I mean, look at that 0 to 9 tween in Sky Race, or how the Treasure Chest minigame's instructions still refer to Victini (you originally used Victini in that game and it was a promotion only thing).

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Huh, that's weird. I used Magmar and got an Ice Cave as my location. Hardly seems related. Is there a site listing what areas there are and what pokemon correspond with which locations?
If the mechanics haven't changed since Black First and White Firster, then the areas available at the start are Spooky Manor, Rugged Mountain, Icy Cave, and Pleasant Forest, with Windswept Sky and Sparkling Sea unlocking later. However, I'm pretty certain Ryuho Tsugu's right and the unlocks have been changed, as I've already been to the Sparkling Sea and my Black 2 game has 3 badges and 300 Dream Points.

Oh, and before you ask, Dream Points are almost-invisible currency you build up by playing Pokemon Dream World. Basically, anything you do- minigames, watering plants, tranding items by swap shelves, and sending a pokemon to Entralink- builds up a small amount of Dream Points, and the more Dream Points you have, the more stuff is unlocked in Dream World. To check your Dream Point balance, log in to Pokemon-GL, click the "My Page" button, then go to the "Pokemon Dream World" tab. Your points will be below the picture of your island. If you earn 500 or more points in a single dream, the pokemon that's sleeping will gain a level when you next Game Sync.

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I haven't played with it much, but you get "fans" who come visit in Join Avenue (a feature you run into a little later). I think the number of fans that visit may be tied to how popular your movies are? I'm not sure.
Fans come from everywhere. Aotrs Commander just opened up a Deli in my Join Avenue, and he's only a friend on my other game card's Dream Pal list, if I recall correctly.

Aaaand to catch up on my latest B2 Playthrough...

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Thanks for the explanations on dream world. I get it now. Just gotta keep on waiting then I guess.

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They come from two sources. First are actual people, such as the example you provided. These also come from trading over GTS, or simply passing someone else playing the game. These aren't fans, just people you've interracted with who come by.

The second is NPC Fans, who come even if you turn wireless off and have nobody within 100 miles of you know what pokemon is. These fans only give 75% as much popularity boost to your shops vs real people, but it's still convenient for them to show up.

I'm merely speculating that the NPC fans showing up is linked to other in game things, like the Movies. (If there is any link, I would also expect a popularity boost to come from beating the E4 the first time, and from competing in the PWT)
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I forget, we aren't allowed to talk about emulation in here, are we? Even if you've legally followed internet dirrections to get your disc and game stuff into your computer?
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On a side note, unrelated, caught a Magnemite in the factory... I notice that he's very popular among the community for at least early game. I caught a Mareep earlier in-game, and I'm wondering which I should use as my electric type.

While it's apparently commonplace to use Magnemite, and I've never actually used one in a playthrough, I have used a Mareep in several previous games.
Magnezone is preferable to Ampharos in almost every way except for some movepool envy. Ampharos has higher HP and Attack, but ties Special Defense and has lower everything else and fewer resistances, meaning that the utility of the higher HP is mostly lost, and the higher Attack is pointless given that both are primarily focused on Special Attack. Ampharos is actually slower than Magnezone and is the third-slowest fully-evolved Electric type (the slowest in Gen IV, since the two slower ones are the Gen V Pokémon Eelektross and Stunfisk).

In addition, Magnemite has type advantage over all but one of the gyms in either offense or defense, as opposed to Ampharos having such advantage against only two. In particular, Magnemite/zone fully walls the Virbank and Mistralton City Gyms, and its defensive capability is useful against the Castelia, Nimbasa, and Opelucid City Gyms, while Ampharos doesn't stand out against any of those except the Mistralton City Gym. Both are offensive powerhouses against Humilau, though as usual Magnezone handles off-type attacks better.

Offensively, Ampharos learns Power Gem and Signal Beam by level up (whereas Magnezone only learns the latter, and only by tutor at that) and Discharge eleven levels earlier than Magnezone, but lacks the capability to take advantage of its decent Physical movepool, and its only Fighting move is the inaccurate Focus Blast. Defensively, Magnezone is only vulnerable to two gyms' STAB, one of which is neutral and the other is a 4x weakness, while resisting almost every other attack thrown at it. Seriously, if you're not coming at it with a fixed-damage move, or Fire, Fighting, Water, or Ground attacks, you might as well just go home... it'll take what you've got and then electrocute you.
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Whelp, I've decided to alter my team a bit. It occurred to me that my team was basically hard countered by... any fire/fighting type in the game. Darmanitan in particular could maul just about everything I had. I also realized that, now that I have Terrakion filling the role of 'Physical Beast,' Cinccino was a bit superfluous, and was only contributing to my weakness to fighting types. So, I was mulling over what to do, and as I was glancing through my PC, I realized something- I had caught a Frillish in Humilau City.

My newest addition to the team is Isarm the Jellicant. May his mustache be long lived.
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Fans come from everywhere. Aotrs Commander just opened up a Deli in my Join Avenue, and he's only a friend on my other game card's Dream Pal list, if I recall correctly.
I did what now...?!

Huh.

And yet it still bugs me that you still don't appear to be able to cross worlds, in the dream world, 'cos I can see Forrestfire in my game buddies or whatever list, but it's greyed out...
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So today's updates:

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Also, there is a girl in Humilau wearing the Shorts of dresses.
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I did what now...?!
Well, apparently you've always dreamt of serving food to trainers and pokemon to make them happy, and I only had a lottery shop, so, yeah, I'm not gonna complain if you're gonna give me some more happiness boosts per day.

I, uh, hope Join Avenue isn't one of those things you have to do daily or else you'll lose it. I'm bad at that stuff.

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I'm at the pokemon league. I'm just a few presses of the A button away from the Elite Four.

This is going to be obnoxiously hard without Bulbapedia. Does anyone have suggestions as to what level I should grind to? I'm currently working on getting everyone up to lvl. 60, but I'm not sure if that's enough.
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If you play smart, you should be fine at 55.
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If you play smart, you should be fine at 55.
Keeping in mind that I have no idea what pokemon they're using, and I'm nuzlocking, I'm going to try for a bit higher than that.
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Keeping in mind that I have no idea what pokemon they're using, and I'm nuzlocking, I'm going to try for a bit higher than that.
60 is about the level of the Champion's pokemon, so you should be fine, or you could grind a bit higher to be safe.
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Sweet. One of, and therefore all of, my party got Pokerus. With this in mind, I have decided to retire Rex, my loyal Herdier, to the Boxes. Interestingly enough, I found this out when I received the "Pokerus Discoverer" Medal, rather than the dialogue with the Nurse.

Interestingly, I retired my loyal dog to the Boxes in Black 1 too, though for a different reason.
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Interestingly, I retired my loyal dog to the Boxes in Black 1 too, though for a different reason.
Hm... If it was anything like my loyal dog, it was because he evolved and lost pickup.
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Well, apparently you've always dreamt of serving food to trainers and pokemon to make them happy, and I only had a lottery shop, so, yeah, I'm not gonna complain if you're gonna give me some more happiness boosts per day.
The particular irony here is that my idea of "cooking" involves none of this "fresh" crap - if it ain't been dead for six weeks it ain't proper food - and baked beans and cans of meat (it's especially funny if we take the context of the anime where half the time all Pokemon eat fruit...!), instant mash powder and cheese (with additional tomato sauce for good measure) all bunged in the microwave at once, with an ended result that already looks like it's been half-digested... And it is awesome!



I...err... probably wouldn't actually eat anything you buy there...



I'm now just imagining it going something like this: "Okay, guys, either you like me more or I'll make you eat Bleakbane's "meals" again!"
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The particular irony here is that my idea of "cooking" involves none of this "fresh" crap - if it ain't been dead for six weeks it ain't proper food - and baked beans and cans of meat (it's especially funny if we take the context of the anime where half the time all Pokemon eat fruit...!), instant mash powder and cheese (with additional tomato sauce for good measure) all bunged in the microwave at once, with an ended result that already looks like it's been half-digested... And it is awesome!
...

My pokemon are going to be eating healthier than me. ...I'm... Gonna go raid the area under the couch. For snacks.

Looks like I'll be sending Druddigon to my B2 game tonight. I got, like, six of them to show up, but he's not going to be a party member because I prefer Sheer Force over Mold Breaker. It's worse that none of the good decent simple minigames never show up for me. Stupid grindy Dream World. It was either that, Sandshrew, Onix, or Snover.

Also in Slowpoke news I just today found out that Golurk and Vanilluxe were designed by the same person.
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Also in Slowpoke news I just today found out that Golurk and Vanilluxe were designed by the same person.
Well, Vanilluxe is one of the more stupid-looking Pokemon; then again, we had some of those from the very first generation anyway... And I'd still take ice-cream-cone-for-a-body over Mr Mime or Lickytung or, even in Gen V, Bert and Ernie...

I guess not everything can be a winner.

(Though I'm one of those horrible, horrible people who isn't super-impressed by Golurk in the first place; I'm just not that big a fan of the whole flying robot-punchy-thing anime is so fond of; for which you can solidly blame Star Fleet, Transformers and BattleTech...)
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Route 4 poke: Leaky the Trubbish!
Also, I went to the name rater and got the DR pokes nicknamed. Shuckle is now Overflow, and Tornadus is now Magi.
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Nuzlocke update- I'm about to take on the E4. My team is (and will hopefully remain) as follows-

Hipp the Roselia- lvl. 60
Nofscap the Umbreon- lvl. 60
Isarm the Jellicant- lvl. 60
Bribe the Starmie- lvl. 60
Royalist the Terrakion- lvl. 60
Demo the Magnezone- lvl. 60

Marshal's got me nervous. I'm hoping that Isarm will be sufficient for getting through him.

EDIT: Well. It could have gone worse, I suppose.

Rest in Peace, Royalist. Killed by Haxorus' earthquake.
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Old 10-19-2012, 09:56 PM   Top  -  End  -  #897
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Congrats on completion Othesmo. At least you only had one death.



I didn't play nearly as much today. Only thing I really got accomplished was starting to breed a bunch of Shellder on a whim.

I just killed an audino and fed what rare candies I had on hand to test IVs on the two best ones I got, this is the spread I have to choose from:

Format is HP/Att/Def/SpAtt/SpDef/Spd

16/30/17/13/14/29
31/20/19/28/14/27

Basically first Shellder is stronger and marginally faster, second one has a nice chunk more hp and a little more defense. Also a lot more special attack, but I don't expect to be using that.

Seems like high attack shellder is the obvious choice, but not sure. Anyone else have an opinion?


Other than that, today I got done with Floor 5 on Black Tower, thus unlocking my fire stone. So all my stone evolutions are done now.
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Fact: if Fused Kyurem starts battle using its signature move against a similar-level Lucario with a decent Fighting or Steel move, something's about to go down like it was just a two-bit punk.
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HI everyone, i'd like a bit of help from the Playground, because i'm torn on a few decisions.

I'm playing White 2, and my team is currently (i'm at the third gym, and my pokemon are all level <20)

Dewott
Riolu
Elekid
Growlithe
Drilbur
????

So i'd like suggestions:
What to fill in the last slot?
Should i get a Starmie and replace the starter?
Should i get Chandelure or Darumaka instead of Growlithe?
Is elekid ok as electric? or should i take Jolteon, or anything else?

I'm not EV training anything and i didn't really care for IVs (I usually just catch 2-3 of the pokemon i want, compare the stats and pick the better one)
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