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Old 11-05-2012, 08:15 PM   Top  -  End  -  #1411
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Well, Dreamworld finally decided to be co-operative. Got all three games up and gamesynced, Dream Pal'd by B2 with both Black and White, meaning I could raid my Black for the all-important EV berries; sooner I start, the more I'll have stockpiled when I actually want them). And finally - FINALLY - snagged a female DW Corphish after frag knows how many times through Shining Sea; I'd freaking got three males sitting in the tree of life (along with about a dozen other types, all males, save for one illumaise I just coulnd't be bothered to bring back). Sadly, it was Harden not Metal Claw, but at this point...! Might take a while before I can get one with a decent nature/IV spread out of the Entralink, but that can wait until tomorrow.

(I might be playing quite a lot of Pokemon this week, actually; my parents have fragged off to Foreign Parts for a couple of weeks, though my plans of peace and quiet have been somewhat derailed by my neice being off ill (though even if she was at school, I havd been fetching her at least one day this week anyway...) And frankly, I do not feel at all comfortable playing Witcher 2 while she's in the house! Though to be fair, I can probably crib the use of her DS to do a bit more set-up in the meantime, so there's that.)
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Well, Dreamworld finally decided to be co-operative. Got all three games up and gamesynced, Dream Pal'd by B2 with both Black and White, meaning I could raid my Black for the all-important EV berries; sooner I start, the more I'll have stockpiled when I actually want them).
Actually, those aren't as important as before, as some of the Join Avenue shops have similar effects.

And you can't even say it's not affordable. One store will sell Mulch, which you can sell to a collector. The Raffle tends to give Berry Juice - same for that. And there was a collector in B/W 1 who liked "stones" - the Hard Stones you always get from the Antique Shop can probably go there, if he's still around.
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Actually, those aren't as important as before, as some of the Join Avenue shops have similar effects.

And you can't even say it's not affordable. One store will sell Mulch, which you can sell to a collector. The Raffle tends to give Berry Juice - same for that. And there was a collector in B/W 1 who liked "stones" - the Hard Stones you always get from the Antique Shop can probably go there, if he's still around.
EV reducing berries can also be gotten 5 at a time from someone outside Nimbassa city one per day, as well.

And if the stone guy is still there, he should be in Icirrus city.
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Old 11-05-2012, 08:26 PM   Top  -  End  -  #1416
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This is the list of Pokemon by trainer for Battle Subway in Black and White. I dunno what it is for Black and White 2, but they do appear to not be completely randomly generated.

I assumed this wasn't true, since previous Pokemon didn't do that for their Battle whatevers either. I know Factory was drawn from a list of presents and that the list was similar to Pokemon you could face in other places.
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Cool, Zekrom was Adamant on the first try. Makes that half easy. No I've just soft reset/master ball Kyurem until I get something decent for either forme.

EDIT: Okay, I lied, I just want a good one for Black Forme. Passing over a Timid Kyurem
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I finished my Emerald Nuzlocke. Took stock of what I needed for the Pokemon League and noticed I needed something that could handle Wallace with ease. Scoped through my box and noticed I had a Pikachu, but wasn't feeling it. Then I realized I'd never opened New Mauville... Hooray for Magneton. It got KO'd by Wallace's milotic, but it took out Wailord, Gyarados, and Tentacruel along the way. Swampert covered Milotic and Whiscash while Crobat covered Ludicolo via poison fang.


I think I might try a new Nuzlocke on Diamond beginning in the summer. I rather liked it.
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Hey guys, it's me again looking for advice. My friendship group has recently started up a "types tournament", where we each pick a type and run a 6-man team based around 'mons which are at least half that type. I've decided to get in on the action with fighting-type, and was wondering what advice you guys have for me in general. I was thinking of having a machamp, as well as scrafty, poliwrath and possibly either cobalion or lucario for that defensive steel type. I've only started thinking on it in the last few hours so I haven't really thought it through all that much, so any ideas you can fling my way would be really useful.
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Hey guys, it's me again looking for advice. My friendship group has recently started up a "types tournament", where we each pick a type and run a 6-man team based around 'mons which are at least half that type. I've decided to get in on the action with fighting-type, and was wondering what advice you guys have for me in general. I was thinking of having a machamp, as well as scrafty, poliwrath and possibly either cobalion or lucario for that defensive steel type. I've only started thinking on it in the last few hours so I haven't really thought it through all that much, so any ideas you can fling my way would be really useful.
I seem to recall that boj0 had a mono fighting team with which he met some success. He'd probably be fairly helpful to talk to.

What are the exact parameters of the tournament? Items clause, species clause, sleep clause (if no, then breloom is your friend), level, etcetera?
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Be sure to pack at least one special attacker. Lucario and Infernape can do the job, as well as Keldeo if legendaries are acceptable. Other than that, it's hard to go wrong, because there are so many amazing fighting types. In addition to what you mentioned, Hitmonlee (w/ Unburden), Conkeldurr, Mienshao, Heracross, Breloom, Blaziken (w/ Speed Boost), Toxicroak, and Gallade are all worth a look.

Personally, I'd recommend Heracross, either with Moxie and a Scarf if you need a revenge killer, or with Guts and a Toxic Orb otherwise. My friends and I affectionately nickname it "Wreck ****", because that's what his (Guts- or Moxie-boosted) STAB Megahorn/Close Combat does.

I'll also vouch for defensive Scrafty. Give him maximum special defense, Leftovers, Shed Skin, and Drain Punch/Crunch/Bulk Up/Rest. He eats any special move not named Hurricane or Aura Sphere for breakfast, and after a Bulk Up or two can shrug off Close Combats and the like. If you can set up, he's nigh unkillable.
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Considering that Fighting has two hard-ish counters (Psychic, Ghost) and two soft counters (flying, poison), I would be sure to grab Scraggy and run Lucario as a specially offensive sweeper. Scraggy to handle the Psychics, while Lucario Shadow Balls the Ghosts into oblivion. Most fighting types have a Rock move to cover the flying weakness, and Rock type attacks are actually neutral on Poison types.

My type-specialist focuses have primarily been in the Bug and Poison types, so I won't be much use on helping you build your team, but: Poliwrath doesn't -seem- to bring much to the party. Water/Fighting is only so-so offensively, as they cover many of the same types and don't offer much overlap in resistances. I might be overlooking something though.
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Considering that Fighting has two hard-ish counters (Psychic, Ghost) and two soft counters (flying, poison), I would be sure to grab Scraggy and run Lucario as a specially offensive sweeper. Scraggy to handle the Psychics, while Lucario Shadow Balls the Ghosts into oblivion. Most fighting types have a Rock move to cover the flying weakness, and Rock type attacks are actually neutral on Poison types.

My type-specialist focuses have primarily been in the Bug and Poison types, so I won't be much use on helping you build your team, but: Poliwrath doesn't -seem- to bring much to the party. Water/Fighting is only so-so offensively, as they cover many of the same types and don't offer much overlap in resistances. I might be overlooking something though.
Nah, poliwrath isn't terribly good.

Suggestion- make sure that everyone on your team can hit ghost types. Give Conkeldurr payback, Give Lucario shadow ball, etcetera. If you end up with a hitmonlee, consider adding foresight to either beat the crap out of their pokemon or force a switch (beware of Hi Jump Kicking through their switch in, however).
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Terrakion is a powerhouse, and Lucario should never be used as a defensive fighter. While it's true that Lucario has a large number of resistances thanks to its Steel type, its defensive stats are too low for it to take neutral or Super-Effective hits... and almost everyone tries to pack Fire, Ground, or Fighting moves due to their general good coverage.
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Also, I really wish the games would quit with the world-ending-legendary plots. RSE had the advantage of it being fresh even though Aqua/Magma's schemes made no sense; DPPt was acceptable, if over-the-top, because Cyrus was fairly well written and had consistent motivations and goals. I just don't get the B/W/B2/W2 plots or characters.

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Black and White wasn't a world ending legendary plot. It was from N's perspective: Use a legendary pokemon's power to liberate all Pokemon! And from Ghestis: Manipulate N to do my bidding and rule the world with Team Plasma being the only one's with Pokemon!

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I suggest running a Riolu with Prankster, Copycat, Roar, and Focus Sash. Only if you can set up entry hazards first, ofc. Least honorable Fighting set ever.
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Why not Virizion?
Grass/Fighting, and Grass is resistant to fighting, right?
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Well this is a big shot in the dark, but does anyone here have a Challenge Key and live in Coventry (UK), and would be willing to infa-red me it? I would be willing to pay in sweets
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Okay if you can, I HIGHLY suggest either a Choice Banded Jolly Terrakion, or an Adamant one with a Scarf. Max attack and speed EVs with close combat, stone edge, earthquake, and x-scissor.

Physical walls are your biggest problem, ferrothorn isn't so bad due to your typing, however Skarmory and Gliscor just sit and laugh. Find pokes who carry electric or ice moves, mainly elemental punches. Guts is good to have on a few guys since your team will be scald/will-o-wisp bait. Medicham, Gallade, and Heracross beat other fighting types while covering a few type issues, namely poison and a few psychics (slowbro RUINS fighting teams so hera does great).

Uh really all I can think of off the top of my head. Feel free to ask if anything comes up
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Get a choice band, give it to a Terrakion, enjoy the free wins. Oh yeah, slap Conkeldurr on there too, for coverage. Maybe Mienshao so you can switch moves on Terrakion too. The rest can be your choice of riolu, tyrogue, or mankey.
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Okay if you can, I HIGHLY suggest either a Choice Banded Jolly Terrakion, or an Adamant one with a Scarf. Max attack and speed EVs with close combat, stone edge, earthquake, and x-scissor.

Physical walls are your biggest problem, ferrothorn isn't so bad due to your typing, however Skarmory and Gliscor just sit and laugh. Find pokes who carry electric or ice moves, mainly elemental punches. Guts is good to have on a few guys since your team will be scald/will-o-wisp bait. Medicham, Gallade, and Heracross beat other fighting types while covering a few type issues, namely poison and a few psychics (slowbro RUINS fighting teams so hera does great).

Uh really all I can think of off the top of my head. Feel free to ask if anything comes up
Er, Bojo? It's all fighting types that he'll be going up against.

That said, I advocate Virizion some more.
With Leaf Blade getting STAB, Virizion having an amazing speed and Special Attack, and not to mention Giga Drain...if you just give it a Miricle Seed you'll be destroying in that tournament!
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Old 11-06-2012, 05:23 PM   Top  -  End  -  #1438
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Umm...
Assuming there are less people than types, check which types are being used.

If you can find that out, maybe put in Gallade to surprise anybody who found out the same about you. Or Staraptor.
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Old 11-06-2012, 05:24 PM   Top  -  End  -  #1439
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Oh.
Ohhhhhhhhh.
My mistake ><
Yes, Terrakion is an amazing choice then. Knowing this new info, I still say Virizion is still an amazing choice.
However, I'd say make sure that one of your mons have a fire type move. As whoever chooses steel or bug will most likely be using Scizor and Genesect(if they allow Genesect).
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Oh.
Ohhhhhhhhh.
My mistake ><
Yes, Terrakion is an amazing choice then. Knowing this new info, I still say Virizion is still an amazing choice.
However, I'd say make sure that one of your mons have a fire type move. As whoever chooses steel or bug will most likely be using Scizor and Genesect(if they allow Genesect).
Or Durant. He gets pretty beastly with hone claws+hustle.

Just sayin'.
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