Total War: Broken City

[Ragnar Lodbroke]

Lord Henry Wallen - Kara Lythene

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Lord Wallen was ready, as always. He wore a long, black robe, with no garments. He was very tall and skinny, and a bit pale.
His short blonde hair was in disarray, like always.

He saluted Kara politely, but only answered her question after they were seated down in his office, with a cup of tea for both.

"Mylady Lythene, that is a difficult question.
An older noblemen would answer that government should go to the person that had the most right to it, by tradition and lineage (Both of which can be highly arguable at this time and age).
I don't like my lineage too much, that is not a secret. You wouldn't like yours either if your father had thrown up in invauable art objets.
But I like and respect tradition, because it can bring security and happiness to people; as long as it doesn't create conflicts that have to be mended with blood.

Some commoners may tell you to destroy all nobility, and as you can imagine I deeply resent that.
I understand where that comes from, but I don't believe in governments that can destroy complete parts of society simply because they don't like such parts.

Others may tell you that we need to find a balance that allows commoners to prosper and grow, and that brings new life and change to nobility.
That new balance could include democratic elements, but would have to include some place for the nobles (Specially very honorable and harmless places where we can put the stupidest of my social class to make them feel important and keep them out of the way).

But, in the end it all comes down to what you want to do. I'm just a lord sitting in his castle. You can move the whole city if you mean to.

I would be willing to rally the nobles behind your cause, depending on what your cause is.
And I will be honest about my cause: My cause is the City."

[WrathOfLife]

The Exchange - ESP-D 4

Public notice - For all to read

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The Exchange is willing to offer personalized loans, unique investment opportunities as joint investment opportunities. Looking for funding? Look no further.

Church of Neposh

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We shall over look this attempt to evade the law. However next time a messenger suggests that we engage in criminal activity we will be forced to report him to the authorities.

Mercantile's Guild

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Greetings, we of the Exchange would be very keen to enter into some basic trading and financial agreements. This is to ensure the regularity and stability of the financial market. Would you be interested in hearing out our terms for cooperation?

GM

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Felix Urd makes his way to Dovel to discuss various financial possibilities. Among these, perhaps most importantly is tackling the current Free Rider problem they are suffering. Felix will explain that the Exchange can hire on all of the Dovels guards, take over maintenance of their roads, their services, etc, and instead the Dovel population simply pays the Exchange a small percentage of their yearly income. Every resident of Dovel will have a say in how the excess is spent, in order to further improve the wonderful district of Dovel.

Jess Furs makes his way to Embassy Row, to discover who the current power players are and uncover the true as to this Merdallan knight. He will also attempt to find areas the Exchange can influence.

[Greystone]

Kara Lythene-Lord Henry Wallen

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The woman takes a seat and waits quietly as you make your point, occasionally nodding her head at appropriate times, but overall keeping silent and very, very still. Her eyes, hidden by the darkened spectacles, could still be felt watching you as she listened, before you finished.

"I am happy to hear that. We of the EBSA believe that a democratic election and government is for the best of the city. I believe that most of the people have had enough of the petty tyrant controlling the city and through extension- their lives"

She leans forwards, and carefully removes her spectacles, revealing startlingly blue eyes as she smiles "Currently we are considering backing the Ram Revolution, but we wish to direct the course of the... formation of the government into something functional, legitimate, and orderly. Of course this means the backing of at least some of the cities nobility. What we are considering is two chambers of people. We are" she pauses and rolls her eyes "Currently in disagreement over some of the details of other power bases, but the EBSA top staff has agreed that one house elected by the people for legislating and a chamber of the nobility for overview. The exact nature of the power structure is not set in stone, and won't be until the meeting"

She leans back "Is this, perhaps, something you would support?"

[NM020110]

The Library
Espionage Defense: 4

The wizards of the dead campus were never much for serving others. Strange that they should be doing so now.

They served because of one thing, and one thing only: fear.

Whenever one stepped out of line, they were faced with death. When one protested, they were chastised, and killed if the protests continued. Corpses have become a regular export of the Dead Campus.

To: The Yellow Court

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I am declaring my dominion over the Northside Black Neighborhood. As a part of this, I am making the following offer:

Serve under me and support my bid for the city, or be crushed trying to face me in magical combat.

To: The Crimson Court

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I am declaring my dominion over the Northside Black Neighborhood. As a part of this, I am making the following offer:

Serve under me and support my bid for the city, or be crushed trying to face me in magical combat.

To: The Blacksbrace Gang

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I am seeking dominion over the Blacksage district. I am willing to engage and destroy Silas Mok for you as a part of this.

In exchange, I would ask that you rule this neighborhood under me.

[oblivion6]

mercantiles guild
morale:3

to the EBSA

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when you have the new goverment set up, we are prepared to step up and take charge of the cities trade. our contacts are already far-ranging so we could serve well

to the church of neposh

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i suppose i can probably donate some funds to your church. in exchange for some holy relics and a way to move goods throughout the city

OOC: what are these holy items exactly?

to the exchange

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yes i will hear you out. and just out of curiousity, how extensive is your intelligence network? i may have a joint project in mind

to the silversmiths

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i hear you are some of the best makers of fine jewelry around. would you be willing to let me distribute your goods? with my contacts i can spread word of you and your goods far. we can of course share the profits

[Thelonius]

To Blackfist Brotherhood [6]

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Vassari considered his answer, before giving the boy a message: ‘’I will trust you. The whole mess in the Shattered Lands is because everybody wants to be ruling on the top, instead of working with what was given to them.’’

Bloodhaven

Vassari’s assistant Petyr scurried around the hospital in a perpetual state of hushed yelling. The doctor reprimanded him for disturbing the peace of the patients, but clearly you need to shout the ears off the people for them to do their jobs. There was a chance nobs were going to visit and those sorts could get offended over a fly on a curtains. Nothing said about some blue stuff spilled in the hallways to operations room, that nobody thought was his responsibility to clean. He was going to tear the ears off the cleaning staff. Had to keep stuff clean, cause doctor said it was good for patients. Had to keep stuff clean for nobs – Petyr didn’t like them, but they provided a lot of coin, the hospital was run on. He finally spotted the boy responsible for mopping floors, chatting one of the nurses. Well, he couldn’t shout, but he could humiliate the little snot in front of his girl. You could always find enjoyment in little things and the job didn’t look so bad no more.

Piggy-Piggy Snout Tavern

Doctor Vassari was relaxing near the fire, eating a goulash. It was hard to do it without staining the bandages and at home he usually didn’t bother. But it wouldn’t do to appear unkempt now. He realized that his position of safety in the neighbourhood hinged mainly on his reputation. The city was growing chaotic and he had to appear strong and unconcerned.
Several men at the table next to him were reading a pamphlet. Vassari’s eyesight was good and he read it, despite the dim lighting. EBSA was calling for a general meeting. He imagined the chaos and shouting that would occur, if half of the ‘’city lord wannabes’’ would decide to attend.

He pulled out the letter bearing EBSA official seal on it, already broken and quickly re-read it. Food for thought.

Bloodhaven Hospital, Dr. Vassari’s Cabinet

''The costs for materials are going to soar. I wouldn’t be surprised if local toughs would start to collect tolls for goods and raise protection money on craftsmen. Plus merchants always work in premium, for operating in high risk environment.'' Francesca commented, looking over the plans, spread on her table.

''Which the city will soon become.’’ Vassari replied. ''What are you estimates for the project?''

''You have to give me a little more time. And it will depend on the price, Orson charges for his shack.''

To GM Only

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+++++ ++ t. Wealth: would they allow to construct an additional hospital wing?

[ragingrage]

The Silversmith's Guild

To the Mercantiles Guild

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We would very much appreciate that. We also have a proposal for you, if you would listen to it. As you know, Guild's row is right now a sham, a farce. Would you be interested in cooperating to return to it its original splendor, a place where different guilds can meet and discuss issues?

[Ragnar Lodbroke]

Kara Lythene-Lord Henry Wallen

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Lord Henry reflected deeply about Kara's words.

"I would agree."

"But I am not the issue" he thought.

"You should watch your back if you go to other of the big houses with this idea. One or two of the BigOlds wouldn't let you live long after hearing that.

I'm trying to join the smaller houses under a group protected by my banners, to be able to counterwight the old houses.
Any support you can give me in that would be apretiated.

What is your vission on the executive branch? A Prime Minister, a King or both?

Thorny issue, that is. I would choose both, were I at your place. The King would have veto power over some things, and maybe a private army. The PM would have more power in short-term decissions.

I tell you this because if you choose a king and not a PM, you will lose the support of the mob. If you put a PM and not a king, then the nobles are out.

And, as dumb as many of the older houses may look when they divide and fight their little wars, that would cause them to close their ranks and choose a leader.
Their private guards are insignificant individually, but a formidable force together.

Maybe the Ram or some others would win at the end, but it would be a bloodbath."

[Murska]

The Wardens

To Illarym Trade Ministry

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We most pressingly require ways to combat mages and their ilk - either equipment or specialists.

To Gatekeeper's Guard

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The Wardens intend to pacify Spicer's Circle. To this end, we are willing to offer you military support to secure Gateway Milanus if you, in turn, offer your support for our task.

To Guild's Watch Association

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The Wardens are taking control of Guild's Hand. If you wish to join us, we will train you into a proper guard and give you food and board. If you wish to disband and return to your homes, we will not stop you. If you wish to fight - our soldiers returning from the Shattered Lands do need a vacation from bashing in Warlord skulls.

[Greystone]

Kara Lythene- Lord Henry Wallen

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The pale woman nods slowly "My thinking was similar, I was only so candid due to your... apparent political leanings. For the executive branch, that will have to come up during the talks. The biggest problem with the King that I foresee is the heriditary aspect of his role. "

She sighs "Perhaps if the 'king' was elected by the nobles, maybe term limits... I don't know, but we will have to bring THAT to a larger forum"

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Mercantile Guild

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We have no problem with this, but may require financial backing to support the new government contender. If you are willing to be part of that financial 'system', then I have no problem with that.

[Murska]

The Wardens - Kara Lythene (PM)

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Four soldiers arrive quickly to the gates to escort her further in. Passing several barracks and a wide training yard, along with multitudes of soldiers performing various tasks, they enter a stone hall.

At the end of the hall, past rows of faded banners, sets of armour and weapons hanging from the walls, is a heavy wooden table behind which currently sits only Commander Nathaniel Tarmin himself.

He motions to one of the chairs on your side of the table. "Have a seat, and tell me - what are you here for?"

[Ragnar Lodbroke]

Kara Lythene- Lord Henry Wallen

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"Well then, let's do just that, I'll be at the meeting. The idea of a king elected by nobility, and a limited time of reign interests me. But I'm already laughing picturing the older guys getting choked and spraying tea all over the room.

If you have nothing else to discuss, we could consider this meeting over. I'm glad we had this chance to talk, feel free to come visit any time.

Good luck; and be careful."

[ForzaFiori]

The Ram Revolution
Rot's Borough
D ESP - 7

Constantine Richter to EBSA (Private) -

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"Our revolution wants what every revolution wants. We are fighting for the rights of the downtrodden and oppressed. Universal suffrage for all adults in the city, as well as citizenship, and some sort of declaration of universal rights, such as the right to speak, to assemble, to hold office, etc. An elected leader that presides over a group of representatives from every part of the city that makes the laws, and a court system separate from the main government that is charged with upholding a constitution that is yet to be written. As you could imagine, there are a few things that are going to have to happen before the writing of such a document, as we would not want to have input from only Runner's City. Of course, this is all very idealistic, and I am unsure of how much will actually pan out, but it is my hope that our view of this government will be the same as the one that we put into place.

TO the Street Men (NPC) -

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Surely you have heard of our great struggle for democracy. The Revolution is interested into expanding into Pisser's Kingdom, and as you are the rightful protectors of this area, we offer to fully integrate you into our growing government. In order to facilitate this, we would be willing to lend a hand in ridding your streets of the gang known as the "Knifehands". In exchange for this, we would expect your acknowledgement of the Revolution as the true government of the city, your deference to us in matters outside of your neighborhood, and the integration of your military forces into ours. We recognize the need to keep a militia for defensive purposes however, and would allow you to keep half of your forces (+ Mil) in Pisser's kingdom as a militia force, while the other half would be integrated fully into our army under Krodok. We await your reply, and will send a treaty for your leaders to sign with our next message, assuming you are agreeable.

[Greystone]

Kara Lythene- Lord Henry Wallen

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She stands and bows again before turning to go, shooting a look over her shoulder as she does "If you ever need anything, feel free to stop by Lord Wallen.

Kara Lythene- Wardens

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The pale woman sits, and slowly pulls back her hair, making sure its all in her long ponytail before she peers at the man from behind her darkened spectacles "Commander Tarmin, as you know the city will soon plunge into chaos- and despite the EBSA's best efforts, I'm sure it will be sometime before we receive a functioning legitimate government. "

She leans forwards in her chair "I am here to discuss a agreement, to coordinate the cities various guard and military organizations so we can keep the violence in the streets down- and keep the civilian casualties down. "

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Kara Lythene- Constantine

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The pale woman nods as you speak "All those things are elements we at the EBSA agree with. What you need is three branches of support to help the popular branch of your movement. You need money, political support, and as unfortunate as it sounds... the nobles. "

She sighs and cracks her neck before going on "Are you willing to compromise and discuss? For that is the only way we can contain the blood that will flow due to revolution"

[Murska]

The Wardens - Kara Lythene (PM)

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"Oh?" The Commander smiles.

"A commendable goal. However, throughout our years of service to the city and our even longer years of fighting in the Shattered Lands, we've come to notice that an uneasy truce between unwilling partners to avoid short-term violence is, in the long term, worse for the populace than a short time of war followed by unification and peace. Not to mention the risks of letting the wrong people in control of various locations.

What sort of agreement are you thinking of?"

[IcemanJRC]

The United Alliance of Labor

Letter to the Technist's Guild

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Lot's a' my guys over here on the docks say that you's boys and yer contraptions are crazy. But I tell them, I tell them "Boys! Crazy is just what you need to get by in these here crazy times!" So I'm looking to team up wit you's fellas and your flying machines and such. How's about it?
-CEO Dennis Kasparzak of the UAL

Letter to the Blackfist Brotherhood

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Anarchist beware, the Union keeps the peace.
-CEO Dennis Kasparzak of the UAL

Letter to the Order of the Wren

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You's fellas, you's got the right idea. You feed dem poor folks, just like us, and you rough up da' bad guys, just like us. SO I's was saying to my boy Rocco, I said, "Rocco" I says "these Wren guys gots the right idea. I think we should team up wit dem." So hows about it?
-CEO Dennis Kasparzak of the UAL

Letter to the Sausage Guild

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Hey, you's just the types a' guys we's needs working with the United Alliance of Labor. You's the proud, upstanding guys that feed the city. Well, us union guys, we're big eaters because we do all the cities hard work, and cause we feed so many of dem poor folks from Runner's City. So I's was thinking, mayhaps we's could work out a deal?
-CEO Dennis Kasparzak of the UAL

Letter to the The Ram Revolution

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I sees. So yous the ones who've been messing around in Rot's Borough. Okay, deal sheep boy, da' Union's on your side as long as we's got a place in your "New World Order" or whatever.
-CEO Dennis Kasparzak

The EBSA

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Cat calls and whistles echo out as six very large and very tall men approach the coated woman. Some innocent enough, and many rather obscene, they are quickly silenced by the scrawny man in a poorly fitting but very impressive suit.
So den yous the one who's been looking for me? Whys a dame like you looking for a dock rat like myself?
The greasy haired man replies, his goons echoing their curiosity.
You looking for a job candyass?
His blatant disrespect would come as no surprise to anyone who's done their research, but if you're here for the Union Boss it's probably not for tea and highbrow conversation anyway.

Factories South

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Rocco Scagnetti, the gigantic juggernaut of the UAL, steps lightly around the neighborhood. His eyes peeled for "suspicious violation of union policy" just like Mr. Dennis asked him to. Rocco was gonna keep a shard eye out for any of those bad guys that pretend to be good guys. Mr. Dennis told Rocco that only the UAL was a real good guy. The other unions were bad guys and Rocco was supposed to try and get rid of them. So here he was, Factories South, the place where all the bad guys lived.

[HerbieRAI]

The Church of Neposh

(ESPD 7)
To the Exchange

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How is using our passage ways against the law? We never said anything of illicit goods. If you do not wish to use them we will not press the issue, but to say traveling under the city is somehow illegal is absurd.

To the EBSA (VIP level)

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An old man with a distinct limp comes near your compound, he says he is from the Church of Neposh and wishes to speak with you about the forming of the new government.
(if allowed an audience)
I haven't heard much about your proposal of a new government, but the Church of Neposh also favors order to chaos and to leave the dictatorship a thing of the past. We may not see eye to eye on every issue, but we believe those differences can be worked out. If I may ask more toward your plan for a new government?

For GM

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I'm assuming I can use one of my characters to create magic items, right? Also, The Mouth is going to be moving into Orn Totre to drum up support against the Secret Police. We will also be readying to send some military into the district.

[Greystone]

The EBSA

Kara Lythene- The Wardens

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She chuckles, and removes her spectacles, revealing her startlingly blue eyes "We don't plan to make deals with the wrong people. What we are trying to do is establish a democratic government. What we need is more boots on the streets- protecting the populace and fighting the criminal gangs that are becoming violent. Our Greycloaks will start soon, and we are also attempting to converse with the Militia of Order and Justice."

Suddenly she leans back, apparently not a woman who likes to stay still "The agreement is simply among like-minded military and law enforcement factions who all want to help the city, and combining their forces against the chaos"

Kara Lythene- Union Boss

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The pale red-headed woman merely chuckles at the cat calls, but ignores them overall until she reaches the Union Boss herself. She smiles at him, glancing around under her darkened spectacles. "Maybe, but is there a place that we can talk... in private?"

Church of Neposh

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You are brought to Dekan O'vail, an older human male, and Chief of the EBSA staff. He looks up from behind his desk and nods "Our plan is to support a democratic government, and we are trying to find a way to avoid as many casualties as possible doing so. What do you think about a new government?

[Grimsage Matt]

To the UAL

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We hope to bring technological empowerment to the common man. We'd be happy to work with you.

[Murska]

Wardens - Kara Lythene (PM)

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"Well, that sounds all nice and well.

We here do not really care about the type of government in Sav Altulas, so long as the city is stable and in peace. Our concerns are towards defending it against outside threats. We intend to pacify Spicer's Circle both to make sure we can work unimpeded and also to secure a base for resources while there is no government to collect taxes and relay them to us. Once such a government emerges, we'll be fine with returning to our old position.

If our men are needed in troublespots elsewhere in the city, we'll think about it if called."

[Grimsage Matt]

To the Gear’s Chosen

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To our brothers in artifice,
we of the technists guild have been following your actions, and we support them. If you are ever in need, you can call on us.

To the Artificers of little Veras

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We are always intrested in new technological developments. Would any of you be adverse to reciving funding from us to help with your experiments?

[League]

Militia of Order and Justice
MORAL: 6


Technist's Guild

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Would it be possible to invent a machine to quickly and easy make and distribute written material to a large amount of people?

The EBSA-Kara Lythene

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A Militia guardsmen leads Kara into Kos's office, a decent sized room but made cramp by stacks of log, report, a weapon rack, a desk, and a large map of the Upperdecks and Old Town.

"What brings you down to Old Town?"

[Eldan]

Blackfist Brotherhood to the UAL [6]

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I do so much admire a man who goes to the effort of writing his letters in an interesting accent. A man who is a member of an organisation who is so dedicated to peace and unity, like the UAL.
We are not opposed to peace, as a concept. But we are opposed to a peace that is enforced by thugs in badly tailored suits, and we would rather reserve the right to fight such a peace.

Signed: The Middle Finger

Passed along in the city everywhere and handed out secretly on street corners:

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[Imperial Psycho]

The Order of the Wren Morale 5

To UAL

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We will stay out of your way, if you stay out of ours.

The Wren.

[IcemanJRC]

The United Alliance of Labor

Letter to the Order of the Wren

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Aw, you don' like us? I suppose it can't be helped.
-CEO Dennis Kasparzak

Letter to the Blackfist Brotherhood

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So you've seen the other letters then? I have under my employ a talented secretary, though if it suits you better I'll have her paraphrase for you. My men and I are not thugs, we are workers and artisans that help the poor and downtrodden. Also, I saw your little poster, you think we work in a Gilded Palace? You think we're rich? We've got almost nothing, yet we give and give, helping Runner's City and all it's inhabitants. I'd mind my tongue if you think to insult us, we simply wished to let you know that if you made trouble we'd be the ones to end it.
-CEO Dennis Kasparzak

Letter to the Technist's Guild

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Yous guys are great. A real laugh riot. I's, personally, can't wait to start working which yous.
-CEO Dennis Kasparazak

The EBSA

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Sure ting dollface. Take five, boys.
The thugs disperse and the boss takes a step forward,
Where we off to, neh? Yous got something important to say?

[Greystone]

EBSA

Kara Lythene- The Wardens

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"If that's all you are willing to give we shall accept that. It is excellent that you will accept a legitimate government if one is created. Would you like to send a military consultant to the Halls of Final Justice? We may need a man or woman knowledgable in the ways of combat and tactics. "

Kara Lythene- Militia of Order and Justice

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The red-haired woman takes her seat and adjusts her dark round spectacles " As you may know the EBSA has its head quarters in the Halls of Final Justice, so OldTown is of interest to us. Still... we have larger goals coming to you."

She leans forward "We wish to set up a government to reorder the chaos, but that will take time. During that time the city is going to fall to bloodshed and chaos very quickly. We have sent representatives to the Wardens as well to discuss a joint military, law enforcement measure to protect the people and keep order. Our Greycloaks will of course soon take to the streets, would you be interested in helping us?"

UAL

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She takes him within sight of his men, but out of earshot, and leaned forwards "We are trying to establish a democratic government. Such a government would greatly help the people, the workers, give them power. We need labor support to get the ball rolling. Interested?"

[Murska]

The Wardens - Kara Lythene

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"I'm wary of letting go of someone I would trust with such a matter in such turbulent times, especially when you have not named what you would need him for, and for how long he would stay.

Still, it could be arranged, if only to keep good relations to the other groups such as ours in the city, who value peace and stability."

[IcemanJRC]

The United Alliance of Labor

EBSA

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Eh, new government, seems good. You gots our vote, that is, if what cher' saying is true. Is whatcher sayin true sugartits?
The boss slicks back his greasy hair and grins,
Cause if it is, you just gained a very powerful ally.

[TsukikoJ]

House Laurier

Notables of Swordsware [4]

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"Hello. House Laurier is interested in working with other respectable citizens of Lomb Circle to make this place safe and profitable. Your folks don't seem to be too interested in any established system of governance, but I have an offer for you. I believe my family has the power to make the surrounding area a better place for all of its citizens, and if you will agree to allow us to establish governance over Swordsware we will pledge to protect your interests always and keep you and your markets safe. And the Lauriers could always use a group of skilled swordsmiths to keep our household guard well-equipped."

OOC: I am willing to negotiate with them in exchange for taking control of Swordsware. If they want more business, I can do that. If they want promise of protection, I can do that. If they want someone eliminated, I can do that. I'd be happy to employ a bunch of them to make me some fine swords as well.

Zemalac [GM/PM]

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In regards to The Pond, is MIL the only stat? Or are they fighting over the neighborhood on a more economical level? This is actually a general question when dealing with NPC neutrals. If I wanted to use something like ESP against them, does each minor NPC have an ESPD rating that I would have to surpass or only the particularly notable ones?

How will subversion work? How will economic attacks work? Similar to 2126 at all? I figure an economic attack would be more effective against gaining control of a neighborhood dominated by merchants. While an espionage attack would achieve greater success in a fractured neighborhood such as The Pond.

[ForzaFiori]

Ram Revolution
Rot's Borough

Constantine - Kara Lythene (Private):

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"Compromise is, unfortunately, a part of politics. It would be unfair of us to fight against oppression only to enforce our beliefs on the rest of the city however. I believe I can convince the others in my movement of the necessity of such talks. However, there are some points that cannot be compromised on: Citizenship and equality, as well as basic democratic principle."