Soragakure OOC Thread

[ZeroNumerous]

Sometimes the Cryptic Bull****ometer isn't working, this one of those times.

[TraceHyde]

I think taht map you posted IC is a little off, in that I think the colour code switches around Hinami and Amon's relative positions entirely.

As an aside, I'm hopelessly colourblind, so more subdued colours for the backgrounds and some letters on the tiles of the characters in addition to their colours would do them well. Working on my IC post. I've spent my entire morning trying to come up with a strategy. This IS a pretty hopeless situation. We can't exactly win - at best we can perform damage control, but fighting the Konoha chick, Hinami, subduing Yusa and preparing her for further transport, is essentially impossible. Unless we had Cybele, but even then it's a bit of a long shot - none of us are skilled enough to reinstitute that genjutsu by my reckoning, making pounding her into the dirt the BEST option. Well, the 'best' option is where we save what we can and make a run for it and hope to make it back to the village so some more experienced group of fighters could handle this. Next time I'm taking a level in dedicate, Amon needs some ranks in spot and what have you if she wants to get the drop on her enemies more often.

Oh, and Plan check.

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edit: wow, the only way for that plan to give us NO bonus was for me to roll a 1, which i just did. That's amazing. At least it's not a penalty, right? I guess it reflects Amon's hurried mood - the fight where she lost her foot likely had WAY more favourable odds.

[TraceHyde]

My latest IC post is over 1000 words long, but most of that is internal narration that I probably - actually certainly ddin't need to include. I just figured with an 18 intelligence, Amon would be smart enough to have near-OOC knowledge, so I thought I'd bring that across.

When they burst out of the building, Amon would have stopped running into the inn, meaning she's still with the group. Both a good and a bad thing, really.

[ZeroNumerous]

You're right, I accidentally switched Amon and Hinami.

Also: Plan requires you to prepare before the encounter, so you wouldn't have gotten a bonus anyway.

I'll add letters to the people in the next map. In black.

[TraceHyde]

Initiative (1d20+2)[12]

My post isn't done yet, but I have an urgent appointment at the university, so I'll describe my action and post it AFTER I get back, you know?

[TraceHyde]

Well, I've spent the last 3 hours trying to think of a good strategy that involves no one dying and I'm not seeing it. None that don't require at least one lucky roll, anyway. Houshi can probably hold his own for a bit, though likely not long enough to rescue Cybele if she is as badly wounded as Amon fears.

If we're using meta knowledge however... Wait, I have it. I'll use diplomacy to try and draw a villain speech from them! No, I'll use a smoke bomb to distract them! Wait, why didn't I think of it before! Zeone, summon your turtle! You have to take damage equal to twice the level of the turtle, being a blood summonig and all, but it may be just the distraction I need to pull off. Summon a large one and have it grapple the one you think is taijutsu-focussed.

Almost all of Amon's plans involve insome way drawing away the Konoha-chick and using a sneaky jutsu on the other one. I'm going to have one last look over my technique list before I decide on my strategy.

[ZeroNumerous]

Whatever you plan to do, should probably do it before Yukiko goes crazy.

[TraceHyde]

Working on it. Eating now. I do have a cunning plan here though, don't you worry. Well, several. Several of which put Amon's life at immediate risk of being caught flanked by two jounin on an off-chance at saving someone she just met. However, I've married a few of my more awesome concepts together, so once this meal is finished I should have constructed the perfect plan to both escape AND save my teacher. It'll require cooperation from the other team though, since my only other member currently present is CCD


Speaking of I just read that feat. Does it seem underpowered to anyone else? A +4 to learn checks, +2 against fear... these are pretty weak abilities not worthy of a feat slot in the first place - I say an ability that makes you give up all yoru most powerful abilities should at the very least give, like, a +2 to most combat-related rolls or something. As it stands, it's just there to better justify Rock Lee as someone who just doesn't feel liek learning ninjutsu.

[zeone3000]

It also gives +4 to taijutsu checks and +2 to dcs.

[ZeroNumerous]

Rock Lee wanted to learn ninjutsu, but couldn't.

As far as the feat: It lets you get Hochimon Tonkou without needing the Initiate feat.

[TraceHyde]

No, that was my point; without the feat, in the game, it wouldn't be impossible for Rock Lee to learn ninutsu just a little hard. With the feat he simply can't. I understand it wasn't a matter of choice, that was my poorly articulated point.

[zeone3000]

wait, it does? Then I get a feat back!

[ZeroNumerous]

Originally Posted by zeone3000

wait, it does? Then I get a feat back!

Huh. Apparently that was removed at some point. Determined Genius/CCD used to give access to Hachimon Tonkou, but I suppose it doesn't anymore.

[TraceHyde]

Alright, back for real now.

My confidence in my plans is wavering greatly. I'm thinking we should probably just run away. The move I'd been writing just now but have abandoned is I keep them talking until I get a little closer, throw a smoke bomb while shouting 'Now, DO IT, CYBELE!' to totally bluff them out and throw them off balance. For some reason I figured we might be able to have SOME effect on them if we were lucky, but for some likely related reason them using their techniques didn't really cross my mind; I mean if my level 5 ass can potentially screw them up with well placed genjutsu, imagine what the both of them could manage. They gotta be at least like 7 levels higher than us. So at this point I'm thinking the plan is this - tell me what you think, fellow members of Team Cybele:

-I'll throw a smoke bomb in our space
-I use transformation technique to take the form of Houshi; everyone who can including me uses duplication technique to make as many clones as possible; Souji uses transformation technique to disguise as me
-Everyone who can charges past the enemies; with luck we should overwhelm their defences. The benefits of two Houshis is that it is quite disarming - they may not expect two physical people, especially with only one Amon; their atention would be focussed on her as an anomaly, if only for the split second it takes for the deception to work.
-We create as much chaos as possible for me to slip into the inn and look for Cybele, or else give her the chance she needs.
-After two rounds, we scatter, running for the hills, except for the real Amon; the duplicates will largely run in random directions to throw them off, including several into the inn, so the opponents wont' think much of it...

I don't know though... if only there was some way for us to check on Cybele's statis. We can deduce she may be trying to get the drop on Hinami owing to Hinami's needless dosage of constant vigilance, unless she's just psychotic...

Wait, it was the second floor where the hole was, right? Amon won't be able to get up there very easily.

Damn it, I'm not trained for this sort of crap. Zeone, Bad, help me out here, what should we do to fight two probably vastly superior ninjas? if there was just one we'd probably manage, but two....

[zeone3000]

Have faith in the DM. Anyway, my bonus is +20, so I identify the technique. After that, I'll post.

[TraceHyde]

Well yeah, have faith in the DM to be fair but he's already prodded us by way of NPC advice to run, so that may constitute our Fair Warning in accordance to the Statute for the Prevention of Total Party Kills. If those ninja are at full strength and we go without a plan we'll probably die in 3 rounds, tops, unless they pull an Orochimaru and find us more amusing than anything else. Or maybe Amon's hunch that they have a love for the theatrics is right and they'll spare at least some of us to tell the world of their threat. Or maybe they'll leave only the genin of one ninja village alive so as to create confusion and shift the blame of who is responsible for Yusa's escape - it'd be the word of three genin against the outrage of an entire, already bad-relations village. That, or... maybe they're specialists like Cybele who aren't taht strong overall. I have no idea, all I know is when the DM throws essentially maybe two opponents at a group fo six or seven people there has to be a trick - some sort of advantage in their favour or they are really bloody powerful. This'll really suck if Amon dies on her first day - I had so much planned for her.

I do have a smidgen of out of character knowledge I think - these guys might be Akatsuki (as we all immediately had our minds go to) in some incarnation or another. In which case there may be a good reason why these two wouldn't fight at their full strength...

Wait, identify what technique? The scroll? I have a complete descriptin of its abilities sitting in my inbox, I could forward it to you and assume Amon taught you of it while travelling.

[ZeroNumerous]

Originally Posted by zeone3000

Have faith in the DM.

That's probably a terrible idea.

Originally Posted by zeone3000

Anyway, my bonus is +20, so I identify the technique. After that, I'll post.

It's Swift Fists: Two Undodgable Fists.

EDIT: Also, I'm heading to bed, so I won't be making another post tonight.

[TraceHyde]

Yeah, I'm really tired really early tonight too. Probably counterbalancing last night - I only got 5 hors sleep thanks to that plot twist. I think the impending doom of fighting two conceivably rather elite ninjas is just throwing me off a fair bit, you know? I'll see if I can try one more IC post tonight though, but only if some sort of plan occurs. Or, say, if Houshi were to charge the fighter woman, instigating the necessity of the fight that Amon would not be able to avoid. It would cetrainly dissolve my little block, I think. That or Yousuke arriving - she kind of needs a fifth man, but i don't know if we can wait taht long. Wait a second... I may know just the idea. I'll wiat it out for a little while while I accomplish one last personal errand though.

[TraceHyde]

Okay, all my good distraction techniques require me to be in short range - in other words, 20 feet of my target. Hugely impractical, really. My only other useful ability is lightning bolt, but a few d6 of damage will not put a decisive end to this conflict. Yet, the two are lines up prety well right now - such inviting targets... I was thinking of talking my way over there to get in close range- I'm mostly banking on the Konoha chick's will save not being noo high OR her levels not being overly high, in which case...

Quick, zeone, does Houshi know any techniques that can incapacitate a cahracte's defences? As in, we're using the reflex save conditions variant rules - are you able to bestow any of the conditions that lower a reflex save? If I use my Mugen or Mind Blank Illusions, I can render the Konoha-type flat footed AT LEAST (invisibility has got to work a charm too) and with Yukiko, say, grappling, then i think I might be able tuo use my most powerful technique. Assuming she isn't at leats level 10, in which case... well actually we may not be that screwed. Either way, if we can lower one of their reflex saves, I may have just what we need - my finest ninjutsu, Mind Transfer...

[zeone3000]

Whoops, forgot this...

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[TraceHyde]

Wait, who did you just attack? We're a good 80 feet away or so, right? Are you hitting Amon or did you forget where you were? There's a map in the spoiler, if you missed it - we're near the bottom.

[zeone3000]

I count 40 unless each square is 10 ft.

[TraceHyde]

I just realised your character is large sized. I mean, I knew he was tall, but... Could I see your character sheet? It would seriously speed up our strategic process.

[TraceHyde]

Going to sleep now. Hopeflly by the time I come back we'l find out how you're attack went.

By the way, my initiative is 16. I somehow forgot to include Improved Initiative, you see.

[zeone3000]

Trust me, it missed. I got 13.

[TraceHyde]

Just realised I mispect 'your'. I NEED to go to bed after this message

Well, you never know. Maybe she has a dexterity penalty? Of, like, -5. Either way, just keep tanking her if you must. Considering your type of character, I wonder if running was ever an option really... I guess I'll just make the most of it on my next action.

I think if Amon makes it out of this alive she'll probably go for a level in those nifty stealth-type classes Cybele is no doubt high level in. By the way, I'm going for a 'replacing-limbs with prosphectis thing' with Amon, so any chance if she's coup de gras'd you could have them cut off a limb but leave her alive for a laugh? I'll spend an action point if need be to manipulate the drama. Of course, that's pretty pessimistic; odds are good all the main characters will make it out of this alive somehow. If the Taijutsu specialist is engaged in melee, that leaves just Hinami unaccounted for; if Cybele is still on our side and alive, the odds may actually tip in our favour. Post up something in the morning. Ooh, I thought of a good idea... remind me to put Amon's gloves on, and let's leave it at that.

[ZeroNumerous]

Originally Posted by TraceHyde

Just realised I mispect 'your'. I NEED to go to bed after this message

You also misspelled "misspelled".

Originally Posted by TraceHyde

By the way, I'm going for a 'replacing-limbs with prosphectis thing' with Amon, so any chance if she's coup de gras'd you could have them cut off a limb but leave her alive for a laugh?

Depends on the type of villain.

[ZeroNumerous]

Double post but whatever: I'm waiting on Rion before I advance things to the next setpiece.

[TraceHyde]

Haven't gotten a complete breakfast yet, trying to think of a move. Well, it's only like the second adventure - our noble DM wouldn't put us in a no-win situation, right? ...Right?

[Cespenar]

Originally Posted by TraceHyde

Haven't gotten a complete breakfast yet, trying to think of a move. Well, it's only like the second adventure - our noble DM wouldn't put us in a no-win situation, right? ...Right?

Cut to ZN laughing maniacally with thunderclaps in the background.