2/28/2013 - Update on Thumb
12/31/2012 - There's a New Comic
12/12/2012 - The "Lost" Holiday Ornament (and Child's Play)
11/26/2012 - Leftover OOTS Swag on Sale (+Thumb Report)
Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ)

Order of the Stick 889 Get Real
Erfworld 163 The End of Book One
Erfworld Now at Erfworld.com!
RSS Feeds: OOTS

The Duke's Wolf, Part Four by Amber E. Scott
The Duke's Wolf, Part Three by Amber E. Scott
The Duke's Wolf, Part Two by Amber E. Scott

The New World, Part 9: Barbarians by Rich Burlew
The New World, Part 8: Gnomes by Rich Burlew
The New World, Part 7: Names and Cultures by Rich Burlew
Looking for the Gaming Articles?

 



Welcome back! Be sure you have read and understand the Forum Rules.


Go Back   Giant in the Playground Forums > Discussion > Friendly Banter
Register FAQ Members List Mark Forums Read End

Friendly Banter Hellos, goodbyes, and other casual conversation goes here. Especially if it doesn't fit better into one of the other forums.

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 01-13-2011, 03:11 PM   Top  -  End  -  #1
Sipex
Ogre in the Playground
 
DwarfClericGuy
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Default Quick question: A synonym for Deal Breaker?

Does anyone know a synonym for deal breaker? I have a friend looking for something more official (it's for a dissertation) but I'm drawing a blank and the internet isn't helping really.
__________________
Battle Spreadsheet

D&D 4th edition game
IC Thread
OOC Thread
Sipex is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-13-2011, 03:19 PM   Top  -  End  -  #2
snoopy13a
Ogre in the Playground
 
HalflingWizardGirl
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Gender: Male
Default Re: Quick question: A synonym for Deal Breaker?

Usually a "deal breaker" means a provision of a contract proposal that is unacceptable to the other side.

Now, if you mean breaking a valid contract, the proper term is "breach".
snoopy13a is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-13-2011, 03:22 PM   Top  -  End  -  #3
Sipex
Ogre in the Playground
 
DwarfClericGuy
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Default Re: Quick question: A synonym for Deal Breaker?

No, I think he definitely means 'deal breaker' but he says it's technically slang and it would cost him if he used it.
__________________
Battle Spreadsheet

D&D 4th edition game
IC Thread
OOC Thread
Sipex is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-13-2011, 04:40 PM   Top  -  End  -  #4
mucat
Ogre in the Playground
 
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Gender: Male
Default Re: Quick question: A synonym for Deal Breaker?

If he means deal breaker in the sense of "They want me to sign over the copyright? No; that's a deal breaker," then he might call it "an unacceptable term", "a provision that (person) could never agree to," or simply "an impasse." Most of these are more wordy than "deal breaker," of course, but that's why we usually use the shorter term.

Can you give the exact context? Wording that sounds natural in one context can sound extremely clunky in another.
mucat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-13-2011, 04:48 PM   Top  -  End  -  #5
Sipex
Ogre in the Playground
 
DwarfClericGuy
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Default Re: Quick question: A synonym for Deal Breaker?

I don't know the exact context unfortunately. I was simply told (via text) that he needs a synonym for deal breaker.

I can probably find out though, I'll post back later.

Thanks for the examples though, they'll definitely help.
__________________
Battle Spreadsheet

D&D 4th edition game
IC Thread
OOC Thread
Sipex is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-13-2011, 05:27 PM   Top  -  End  -  #6
Keld Denar
Titan in the Playground
 
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: 
Seattle, WA
Gender: Male
Default Re: Quick question: A synonym for Deal Breaker?

Deal Breaker in the relationship sense generally means a trait about another person you couldn't look past in order to have a relationship with them.

Example: S.O. was so cute, and we got along really great, but her religious views are a total deal breaker. She's an Orthodox Banjoist, and I practice more contemporary views. It'll never work between us.

Sadly, I can't think of a more "official" term either.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fax Celestis View Post
AILHAY THULUCAY! AILHAY THULUCAY! AILHAY THULUCAY!
_________________________________
A beholder’s favorite foods include small live mammals, exotic mushrooms and other fungi, gnomes, beef, pork, colorful leafy vegetables, leaves, flower petals, insects, and birds.
Keld Denar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-13-2011, 05:35 PM   Top  -  End  -  #7
Mordar
Barbarian in the Playground
 
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Default Re: Quick question: A synonym for Deal Breaker?

Try:

Irreconcilable difference/issue/impasse

or:

Untenable request/offer/clause

Good luck!
Mordar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-13-2011, 05:41 PM   Top  -  End  -  #8
ReynardCity
Pixie in the Playground
 
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: 
Norwich, UK
Gender: Male
Default Re: Quick question: A synonym for Deal Breaker?

Possible official terms-

1. Personal irritations

2. Use quotation marks ie "what is informally referred to as a 'deal breaker'"

3. Key personal difference

4. Insurmountable difference

5. Personality clashes

6. Minor issues
__________________
"A cross between the seriousness of Thundercats and the surrealness of Samurai Pizza Cats. If it were an anime it would be called Samurai Thunder" Check out issues, short story spin offs and our plans for a cartoon at www.reynardcity.com
ReynardCity is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-13-2011, 06:13 PM   Top  -  End  -  #9
Keld Denar
Titan in the Playground
 
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: 
Seattle, WA
Gender: Male
Default Re: Quick question: A synonym for Deal Breaker?

Oh, in Hollywood, they use the term "irreconcilable differences" when filing for divorce. Seems the catchall expression for "that chick/dude be CRAZY".
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fax Celestis View Post
AILHAY THULUCAY! AILHAY THULUCAY! AILHAY THULUCAY!
_________________________________
A beholder’s favorite foods include small live mammals, exotic mushrooms and other fungi, gnomes, beef, pork, colorful leafy vegetables, leaves, flower petals, insects, and birds.
Keld Denar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-13-2011, 11:49 PM   Top  -  End  -  #10
Capt Spanner
Barbarian in the Playground
 
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: 
UK
Gender: Male
Default Re: Quick question: A synonym for Deal Breaker?

"Unacceptable stipulation" maybe?
__________________
Capt Spanner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-14-2011, 02:37 AM   Top  -  End  -  #11
Moonshadow
Ogre in the Playground
 
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: 
The Labyrinth
Default Re: Quick question: A synonym for Deal Breaker?

Tell them that you're disinclined to acquiesce to their request
__________________
Witness my glory and know that when my darkness fades, if you yet live, it is because an ally does not.

AN EMPTY SPOT WITHIN MY CRAW CRAVES YOUR FLESH, YOUR BONES BLED RAW!
YOUR FEAR! YOUR FEAR! SO SWEET! SO STRONG! TO TEASE MY TONGUE, YOUR LIVES ARE GONE!
YOUR ODDS UNFAVORED, MY WEB TOO STRONG! SPEED WON'T NEGATE A LINE STEPPED WRONG!
YOU DARE? DARE SMITE THIS AWESOME BEAST? YOUR FATES ARE SEALED AS MY NEXT FEAST!
HEED THIS BECK AND HEAR THIS CALL! FIGHT ME STILL, YOUR WILLS SHALL FALL!
Moonshadow is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-14-2011, 02:47 AM   Top  -  End  -  #12
rakkoon
Bugbear in the Playground
 
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Gender: Male
Default Re: Quick question: A synonym for Deal Breaker?

A heck-no-way-have-you-totally-lost-it situation?
__________________


Spoiler

Thanks to Smuchmuch for for the avvie and banner!
rakkoon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-14-2011, 09:26 AM   Top  -  End  -  #13
Form
Barbarian in the Playground
 
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: 
Netherlands
Gender: Male
Default Re: Quick question: A synonym for Deal Breaker?

If it's for a dissertation I'd just go for something a little wordier that means the same thing rather than trying to find a synonym. I doubt anyone would care if that one sentence is a few words longer as long as it is still well written.

Last edited by Form : 01-14-2011 at 09:27 AM.
Form is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-14-2011, 09:46 AM   Top  -  End  -  #14
Sipex
Ogre in the Playground
 
DwarfClericGuy
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Default Re: Quick question: A synonym for Deal Breaker?

Thanks guys! He went for something wordier after all. I'm unsure what exactly he used but he just said he ended up re-writing a few sentances to fit it in properly.
__________________
Battle Spreadsheet

D&D 4th edition game
IC Thread
OOC Thread
Sipex is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-14-2011, 10:45 PM   Top  -  End  -  #15
Roland St. Jude
Gunslinger in the Playground
Administrator
 
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Gender: Male
Default Re: Quick question: A synonym for Deal Breaker?

Was it "fuggitaboutit"?
__________________
Fedoruman Roland Avatar by Chris the Pontifex

Band of local heroes seeks Magic User. Join our long-running Rules Cyclopedia/BECMI game Old Ways.

Forum Rules
Roland St. Jude is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-18-2013, 09:14 PM   Top  -  End  -  #16
Quandary
Pixie in the Playground
 
BarbarianGuy
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Default Re: Quick question: A synonym for Deal Breaker?

I came upon this trying to remember a word, and while this did not help me and it is far past due to help the original poster, it may be significant for anyone with a similar problem. The synonym was "ultimatum".
Quandary is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-18-2013, 10:43 PM   Top  -  End  -  #17
nedz
Troll in the Playground
 
DwarfBarbarianGuy
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: 
London
Gender: Male
Default Re: Quick question: A synonym for Deal Breaker?

Normally I would just use a Thesaurus — but I couldn't find "Deal Breaker" in any of them ?
__________________
π = 4
Consider a 5' radius blast: this affects 4 squares which have a circumference of 40' — Actually it's worse than that.


Completely Dysfunctional Handbook

Tomb of Battle: Fighter, Monk, Samurai, Blade Dancer, Knight, Swashbuckler and Ninja.
nedz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-18-2013, 11:55 PM   Top  -  End  -  #18
Aedilred
Bugbear in the Playground
 
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: 
London, UK
Gender: Male
Default Re: Quick question: A synonym for Deal Breaker?

If you reverse the perspective, you could go with sine qua non - that is, a condition that one party considers absolutely essential. In terms of something that alone eliminates the possibility of agreement, though, you're best with something like the options suggested above.
__________________
Avatar by Strawberries

Go Red Sabres! GITP Blood Bowl Cup - Season 3
Season 1 Cup Winners
Season 2 Cup Semifinalists
Aedilred is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-19-2013, 06:18 PM   Top  -  End  -  #19
Anarion
Ettin in the Playground
 
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: 
Cambridge
Gender: Male
Default Re: Quick question: A synonym for Deal Breaker?

Having read a great deal of academic writing at this point in my life, I'm actually pretty sure that deal breaker is perfectly fine to use even in a dissertation. And I'd personally go with "deal breaker" in quotes (to show it's colloquial) rather than some really wordy expression.

Seriously, imagine your reaction to reading a paper that said "deal breaker" compared to one that said "the term that ensured the particular arrangement in question was untenable."

Edit: @below poster. Doh! This is why checking post dates is a good idea.
__________________
Lawyer Pony Avatar by Dirtytabs, exalted as an Eclipse by Elemental, now with a fancy robe.

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Giant View Post
Anarion's right on the money here.
Quotes
Spoiler

Last edited by Anarion : 01-20-2013 at 04:12 AM.
Anarion is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-20-2013, 03:12 AM   Top  -  End  -  #20
factotum
Titan in the Playground
 
BlackDragon
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: 
Manchester, UK
Gender: Male
Default Re: Quick question: A synonym for Deal Breaker?

You know, I can't help but feel that the original poster already sorted his problem more than two years ago when this thread was first posted...
factotum is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-22-2013, 12:49 AM   Top  -  End  -  #21
Crow
Ogre in the Playground
 
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Gender: Male
Default Re: Quick question: A synonym for Deal Breaker?

Untenable circumstance.
__________________
Exercise programs
Lifðu Hetjulega

GITP Fantasy Blood Bowl Cup - Season III
My Teams:

Selene's Seductive Strut (Underworld)
Season 3: 2-2-1 Triple-S WTFPWNs The Reptile Alliance in week 5 to stay hot, but the veteran orcs of The Fancy Lads are looking to bring The Strut back down from their cloud in week 6!

Styx Rivermen (Khemri)
Season 2: 8-1-3 Division-A Champs! Cup Champions!
Season 1: 8-2-1 Division-A Champs! Cup Semi-Finalists
Crow is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:00 AM.



Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Usage of this site, including but not limited to making or editing a post or private message or the creation of an account, constitutes acceptance of the Forum Rules.