I love this game. I have to be the money collector doorman at my fiancee's bellydance show but I've been peaking in and checking the game from my phone.
Ok DM, I've got a plan, but it's really bad and it's the only one I've been able to come up with so far. I blame Gen-Con for distracting me.
I would like to hack an aircar (or have it hacked) and have it autopilot itself at full speed into the third floor of the building. At the moment of impact, I would like to initiate a rappel down the outside of building (a la Diehard) and into the hole this collision will likely have caused. From there it's sweep and clear and grab the helmets.
Ok DM, I've got a plan, but it's really bad and it's the only one I've been able to come up with so far. I blame Gen-Con for distracting me.
I would like to hack an aircar (or have it hacked) and have it autopilot itself at full speed into the third floor of the building. At the moment of impact, I would like to initiate a rappel down the outside of building (a la Diehard) and into the hole this collision will likely have caused. From there it's sweep and clear and grab the helmets.
Still haven't gotten to the escape part yet.
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Semester started today so I may be a tad slow on posts until I figure out my class load. Operation Terrible Idea will commence sometime today lord willing. Afterward I will be swapping 'war stories' with Graff.
Damn. I've only just noticed that I call people at the absolute worst times. First it was Staen at the table, and now it's Ice dodging through a crowd.
Would you like me to roll a mechanics check? I can't remember if droids can follow orders that cause their own destruction. I assume that is not the case, and that they will not destroy themselves, so I'd need to modify the droid I think. What's the word Fel?
So... I presume that Graff has now jumped from ~30 minutes behind the timeline to way the heck out in front of everyone else, yes? Hope nobody gets killed or anything while Graff is busy "maintaining his cover."
Also, this whole setup just keeps getting curiouser and curiouser. Any chance that an Untrained Galactic Lore Check might turn up a clue about a pair of Twi'lek girls calling themselves "Star" and "Moon"?
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So... I presume that Graff has now jumped from ~30 minutes behind the timeline to way the heck out in front of everyone else, yes? Hope nobody gets killed or anything while Graff is busy "maintaining his cover."
Also, this whole setup just keeps getting curiouser and curiouser. Any chance that an Untrained Galactic Lore Check might turn up a clue about a pair of Twi'lek girls calling themselves "Star" and "Moon"?
You are... Well... (1d4+3)[4] Hours later. So you are well ahead of the crowd. Your untrained galactic lore check came up empty handed. Thankfully, Graff rolled Doubles? Twins? Snake Eyes? We'll think of a good metaphor later.
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Wait, the stormtrooper was smoking a cigarette?
Aye. Storm trooper armor, cigarette, rifle. Sorry that didn't get into the first post.
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I have never understood why the 'good' guys are supposed to uphold imprisonment. In a setting where there isn't gigantic levels of recidivism (i.e. NOT GOTHAM CITY) it might make sense, but... *shrug*
Lillian definitely feels that the darth needs to be taken care of.
I'm predicting Bao is actually loyal to Darth Krayt, but c'est la vie. I can always attempt to kill him and wrestle control of the airthing before I die too.
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This double standard of weapon possession and use is troubling. If Darth Arseface can butcher 45 people without every security officer on the Wheel coming after him, the Sith clearly own the Wheel, and we are ****ed.
I think 'crimes against life' or 'sentience' can be applied retroactively, as they weren't ever established. Anyone who acts in a way anathema to life, regardless of the laws of the galaxy, would break the laws of 'humanity,' to use common parlance.
That said, Lilly isn't interested in justice. She sees a target. She's interested in him being dead now.
EDIT: Concerning butchery, noble gases as an asphyxiant gas are really, really awesome (in a terrifying way). It's why you shouldn't inhale the helium from a balloon -- you can pass out if you keep the gas in for too long, since you're robbing yourself of oxygen. Bad stuff, that. But the body really doesn't react to it (noble gases being nonreactive, after all) so ultimately if you're in a room with noble gases that're leaking, it'll be only a few moments before you pass out that you'd realize it.
They put in incredibly smelly gases in incredibly small quantities so that any leaks can be detected by smell, but helium on its own, for instance, is odorless.
My point is, if we have access to it and we can introduce it in great quantities to wherever Mr. Sithy is, we can get 'im before he can use the Force to quick-leap away or whatever.
Also, if the Sith own the station, we need to GTFO. We'll report back to the Emperor and throw off a salvo behind us as we Team Rocket Blasting Off Again from the Wheel. Noooo thank you.
And that fabric is totally a MacGuffin. I've just got to figure out how...
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For the Nuremberg Trials, they specifically went out of their way to cite that there were international laws established by the League of Nations that could be used to prosecute the Nazis. The Law must exist before the acts occurred (even if the laws weren't recognized or followed) for legal prosecution to occur. Otherwise, you may as well just put a bullet in their heads and not bother with the show trial.
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For the Nuremberg Trials, they specifically went out of their way to cite that there were international laws established by the League of Nations that could be used to prosecute the Nazis. The Law must exist before the acts occurred (even if the laws weren't recognized or followed) for legal prosecution to occur. Otherwise, you may as well just put a bullet in their heads and not bother with the show trial.
I agree. There are situations which don't warrant trials.
Also, the Nuremberg Trials used the laws of an entity which Nazi Germany wasn't really apart of in order to prosecute them. We could easily claim Darth One-Eye was in contravention of Naboo's royal toadstool ordinance if we wanted to -- but why we'd go to such lengths, when he's not a very good person, is beyond me.
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We do it because a) show trials are great for PR and b) fundamentally we as a society recognize that no one - no matter how rich, poor, good or evil - is above the law. The minute we cross the line and take justice into our own hands - thus superseding the grand arbiters of our civilization - is the point at which we become more like that which we hate and despise. We become a Nazi (or a Sith, or an Imperial or whatever), at least a little bit.
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I don't think we have anything at all that has a recording of the dude killing anyone. The entrapment she mentioned was Bao attempting to get Burke to implicate herself in illegal dealings on the Wheel -- I don't think sending self destruct droids to kill a darth counts as entrapment.
Also, blowing him up is significantly less appealing than suffocating him. Smoke clouds lead to dramatic escape. Clear, odorless gas? Not so much the escaping off-camera.
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We do it because a) show trials are great for PR and b) fundamentally we as a society recognize that no one - no matter how rich, poor, good or evil is above the law. The minute we cross the line and take justice into our own hands - thus superseding the grand arbiters of our civilization - is the point at which we become more like that which we hate and despise. We become a Nazi (or a Sith, or an Imperial or whatever), at least a little bit.
Interesting, but I disagree entirely. But then, I'm in favor of a benevolent tyrant so Plato already thinks my soul's ruined.
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I don't think we have anything at all that has a recording of the dude killing anyone. The entrapment she mentioned was Bao attempting to get Burke to implicate herself in illegal dealings on the Wheel -- I don't think sending self destruct droids to kill a darth counts as entrapment.
Also, blowing him up is significantly less appealing than suffocating him. Smoke clouds lead to dramatic escape. Clear, odorless gas? Not so much the escaping off-camera.
Lilly doesn't have any evidence but... In about 15 minutes she will, given what Ice did.
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Interesting, but I disagree entirely. But then, I'm in favor of a benevolent tyrant so Plato already thinks my soul's ruined.
I trust the courts more than I trust a stalwart/iron hand of a benevolent dictator. 'Course I am a Criminal Justice Major, so my opinion is different than a lot of people's (who, quite surprisingly, prefer mob rule more than anything else).
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Yeah, but there's no way to know what Ice did in the future!
I've been avoiding reading the other plot-lines because I shouldn't be privy to the information therein. So I really have no idea what's going on in that regard. Bao clearly says no to Lillian, since it is fated for the sith to kill peoples.
EDIT: Yeah, I figured you were a law major. Your ethics and mine are incompatible, since we adhere to separate notions of Justice. There has to be the question of what Justice is, and who should be capable of setting forth an institution or constitution, an entity that will arbitrate who is and who is not Just. But without any way of understanding the notion of Justice in any true capacity -- we cannot provide a definition, only examples -- it becomes intensely questionable as to who is and who isn't adhering to Justice.
Some look to God, but I won't mention more than that because religious morality is a can of worms!
Ultimately, ancient Athens stated that the mighty, the strong -- they were who determined what was or wasn't Just. They conflated Justice with Strength, as epitomized in the Melian Dialogue (Thucydides' history of the Peloponnesian War gives the text for that dialogue). Whether or not that's correct is the subject of intense and heated argument. A lot of philosophers find (or found, for those who're dead [Plato]) the notion repugnant because it's so primal and bestial. They look to the Forms, perhaps, or ratios, or deities, or themselves in order to determine what Justice is.
What any individual believes is up to them. But it's interesting to compare with others what Justice might be. And in this case, I think justice is argon.
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