I think Commander = Captain's Chair, but I could be wrong on that. Unless you meant a literal chair for the captain. Like, Kirk's Swivel or Picard's Throne. In that case... he's a Chiss, he can stand.
Pish post. I have 200cr free, I'll buy myself a nice chair, bantha hide, reclining, and have Ice install it.
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Last time Admiral Markath handed them to us, and I bragged that mine was the least interesting. I could pull it up on my datapad, or have it sent there. Jarik's former CO owes him a favor, so I can do it that way as well.
Actually, nevermind what I said about armor before - while I was AFB I got the armor value and EP cost scalings reversed. Bleah.
Let's see, things I haven't seen mentioned... Hyperdrive upgrades (if so, it's actually cheaper to buy the fastest one we can afford and then perform any additional desired Starship Designer upgrades from there)? Smuggling compartments? (Erryday...)
As for the tractor beam, apparently it's standard equipment on Firesprays, which don't have a lot more STR than our girl Dawn, and thus it's supposed to be viable. Eh, a warhead launcher is fine too. Though proton torpedo launchers seem to be generally more efficient than any flavor of concussion missiles, as long as you don't mind the smaller magazines. Also, please feel free to take advantage of Graff's high BAB and proficiency with Pilot-operated starship weapons by giving him a fixed-forward gun of some sort to use while dogfighting.
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Just to double check was my utility belt acceptable for customs? Its core rulebook and has medpac, comlink, tool kit, liquid cable dispenser+grappling hook, power cell, three days worth of food and an energy cell.
I mentioned it before and nothing got said so assume it was fine, but just double checking.
Edit: Unrelated for that, but for future use I got a question about concealing a weapon. According to the chart a lightsaber is a "medium" weapon. I get that is activated, but with it treated like that does that mean it is impossible to conceal a lightsaber? Or am I missing something about object sizes?
Yeah, that's what I figured. I was confused what "size" a deactivated lightsaber counts as for concealment purposes. Steal to conceal an object gives bonuses and penalties based on the size but the object has to be "one size category smaller than you". However lightsabers are medium weapons.
Yeah, that's what I figured. I was confused what "size" a deactivated lightsaber counts as for concealment purposes. Steal to conceal an object gives bonuses and penalties based on the size but the object has to be "one size category smaller than you". However lightsabers are medium weapons.
I follow. Yeah the rules don't always work right. Kind of makes sense though, the Saber is like a maglite, hard to conceal such a large cylindrical object.
Also, your utility belt is fine.
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It's looking more and more like an LAAT/i with a hyperdrive!
Funny enough, one of the only things we're not boosting is atmospheric speed.
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updated upgrades:
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item
EP/days
parts
labor
license
cost
combat thruster
1
5000
123
0
5123
maneuvering jets +4
3
12500
369
0
12869
speed 5
6
50000
738
10000
60738
regenerating shields
2
12500
246
625
13371
SR55
3
15000
369
0
15369
Droid repair team
1
12500
123
0
12623
sensor array +6
3
0
0
0
0
slave circuits, advanced
1
10000
123
0
10123
Blank IFF Transponder
0
2500
123
0
2623
medium concussion ML
5
3500
615
0
4115
16 medium concussion missiles
0
12000
0
0
12000
sensor enhancement package
1
32500
123
0
32623
enhanced dual heavy laser cannon
4
12000
492
2400
14892
enhanced dual heavy laser cannon
4
12000
492
2400
14892
enhanced dual heavy laser cannon
4
12000
492
2400
14892
enhanced dual heavy laser cannon
4
12000
492
2400
14892
enhanced dual medium ion cannon
4
6000
492
0
6492
Droid socket
0
5000
0
0
5000
R-8 series astromech droid
0
4000
0
0
4000
SR60
0
12500
0
0
12500
+20hps
0
12500
0
0
12500
Docking Gun
0
500
123
0
623
42
256500
5535
20225
282260
Days spent working for profit = 45
Total modification time (days) = 90
updated statblock:
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Red Dawn
Modified Curich-class shuttle CL 7?
Colossal* space transport
Init +0; Senses Perception +5
Defense Ref 14 (flat-footed 12), Fort 26; +12 armor
hp 140; DR 15; SR 60; Threshold 76?
Speed fly 12 squares (max. velocity 800 km/h), fly 5 squares (starship scale)
Ranged:
4 heavy laser cannons +4 (see below)
1 medium ion cannon +4 (see below)
1 docking port (blaster cannon, see below)
Fighting Space 12×12 or 1 square (starship scale); Cover total
Base Atk +0; Grp +36
Atk Options autofire (heavy laser cannons/medium ion cannon/blaster cannon)
Medium concussion missile launcher (see below)
Abilities Str 42, Dex 20, Con –, Int 18
Skills Initiative +0, Mechanics +8, Perception +5, Pilot +0, Use Computer +8
Crew 1 (normal); Passengers 20
Cargo 130 tons; Consumables 1 month; Carried Craft none
Hyperdrive x1.5 (backup x10), navicomputer
Availability: Unique; Cost: Not available for sale (~850,000)
Weapons:
*Combat thrusters: This ship is treated as gargantuan for purposes of being targeted by capital ship weapons (-20), dogfighting, and using starship maneuvers.
Maneuvering jets +4: +4 dex, included above
regenerating shields: recharge shield action restores SR10 instead of SR5
Droid repair team: automatically deploys when condition affected, restores condition track with +13 mechanics skill. If ship take damage above SR, 25% chance repair team is destroyed.
Sensor Array +6: +6 equipment bonus to ship computer's int, included above.
Sensor Enhancement Package: system operator receives +5 bonus to perception and use computer when using sensors.
Advanced slave circuits: crew required to operate ship decreases from 4 to 1.
Blank IFF: Can hack opposing computers to spoof friendly IFF to it, Will Defense = 15 + enemy ship's int, attitude starts unfriendly (-5), encrypted signal imposes additional -10 penalty to use computer checks. helpful = friendly, hostile = enemy.
Ship Designer: Increased shields
Ship Designer: Increased hull
R-8 astromech droid in droid socket:
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Tech Specialist Upgraded Int = 16, upgraded dex 15
Feats: Skill focus Mechanics, Pilot, Use Computer
Skills: Mechanics +14, Perception +8, Pilot +13, Stealth +7, Use Computer +14
Special: Navigation Charts, calculates hyperspace routes as if it had access to the HoloNet (no penalty), can calculate as standard instead of full-round.
Actions:
Move (1 swift, 2/turn): 6 wheeled, 4 walking
copilot (1 swift, 1/turn): +2 bonus to pilot checks
issue routine command (1 swift, 1/turn): can issue 1 routine command to a friendly computer each turn
recharge shields (2 swift, 1/turn): DC 20 to restore SR 10.
regulate power (2 swift, 1/turn): DC20 to move ship +1 on condition track
Okay, changed the ion cannon to be operated by the pilot, since we're most likely to be using it when we're on the offensive and don't want to destroy the target. I also added a concussion missile launcher with 8 normal and 8 armor piercing missiles. Do we need to add another heavy laser cannon in case Staen or Ice want to mix things up? Even if something gets through our shields, the droid repair team will bring us up the condition track and the R-8 unit will repair the shields. I'm worried Ice won't have much to do if the battle's going well (other than make snarky comments and talk about how awesome his upgrades are). Doing so would increase the total number of days working on the ship to 91. Not sure if he's got 3 spare months during the year.
Edit: added proposed changes.
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According to the chart a lightsaber is a "medium" weapon. I get that is activated, but with it treated like that does that mean it is impossible to conceal a lightsaber? Or am I missing something about object sizes?
Medium Weapons are Tiny Objects (Scum and Villainy pg38). Object size is used for concealment, not weapon size (which is more a measure of who can use it than how big it is).
As a medium creature a tiny object is 2 sizes smaller than you so you can attempt to conceal with a +0 bonus to the check (CR Stealth rules).
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"Three months" is one way to look at "ninety days," and admittedly it's by far the most common. For something like this, though, which is basically a hobby project, "ninety days" might more accurately be described as "most of a year's worth of weekends."
Also, we have 4 gunner-operated weapons and 3 dedicated (well, pretty much) gunners. So there will be a weapon open for one of them - so long as we have a target worth blowing missiles on, anyway.
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Medium Weapons are Tiny Objects (Scum and Villainy pg38). Object size is used for concealment, not weapon size (which is more a measure of who can use it than how big it is).
As a medium creature a tiny object is 2 sizes smaller than you so you can attempt to conceal with a +0 bonus to the check (CR Stealth rules).
Thank you, I was unable to find weapon to object size other than the Core book's weapon sizes. Didn't know it was in Scum and Villainy. :)
Can you add a force point to a roll if you take 10?
Who did I list as Systems Operator? I feel like there are things we can do with the comms, like lock on targets or something. Ice could always take that seat if the engineer's cap isn't necessary at the moment.
That said, I will never, ever say "hmm.... do you think we have 'too many' guns?" I might question their quality, but not the number. I <3 the Death Star.
And one of the two 'non-combatants' could take over the missile launcher if need be, right?
Also, I'll post in the IC thread once I stop getting freaked out by the Promenade!
EDIT: Bloody 500 errors.
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+8BAB -1 Dex, -5 no proficiency. I'd have a +2 to hit.
Not 100% (or even 80% honestly) sure (AFB) but I don't think you apply dex penalties to attacks with vehicle weapons. I do know, however, that you get the ship's int bonus to those rolls, so +4 there. So you'd have a +6 (+1 additional from my born leader ability which would be almost guaranteed on in a fight). Still not great, but not as bad as +2.
If you really want proficiency and are willing to spend a feat (I doubt it'll come up enough to be worth a feat myself) vehicle gunner or whatever the feat is called is better for that as it only gives proficiency for vehicle weapons but gives an additional benefit as well (afb and don't recall what exactly it is).
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Not 100% (or even 80% honestly) sure (AFB) but I don't think you apply dex penalties to attacks with vehicle weapons. I do know, however, that you get the ship's int bonus to those rolls, so +4 there. So you'd have a +6 (+1 additional from my born leader ability which would be almost guaranteed on in a fight). Still not great, but not as bad as +2.
If you really want proficiency and are willing to spend a feat (I doubt it'll come up enough to be worth a feat myself) vehicle gunner or whatever the feat is called is better for that as it only gives proficiency for vehicle weapons but gives an additional benefit as well (afb and don't recall what exactly it is).
Ah, thanks. I don't know starship combat very well so didn't realize the +4. Alright that's not too bad and a +6 is worth it enough to not use a feat if it won't come up often. Especially since I got desperate gambit which really has no penalties in ship combat since my reflex defense doesn't matter.
I can't find the "Vehicle Gunner" or any feat other than vehicle combat that does much with vehicles. Sure it isn't a talent? (given books aren't on me and I'm using an online database which is missing some books)
Is my super rare and expensive Corellian liquor flammable? And what's the break DC on the bottle? Ive had quite enough of this wookiee, and I wish to have a barbecue.
The feat is Vehicular Combat and it is in the Core book, but it's a very pilot-centric feat. Its extra benefit is that it allows the pilot of a vehicle to roll a Pilot check to try to negate a hit, and the proficiency it grants only applies to Pilot-operated weapons. So WP(Heavy) would actually be more generally useful unless you're a pilot. There's a Scoundrel talent, Spacehound, that does grant proficiency with all vehicle weapons; but like I said, Scoundrel talent.
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Just to check, since I'm ahead due to our long bit the other night, will you post when ready? I saw the post in the IC thread, just wanted to double check so that when I didn't post you wouldn't be waiting on me whenever you were ready.
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The DC to change the Veridicator is 10, and I have a modifier of +11, so I cannot fail to change it. Zeltrons have a bonus to detecting fibs as well, so hopefully this little Saurian will surrender its secrets to me.
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The DC to change the Veridicator is 10, and I have a modifier of +11, so I cannot fail to change it. Zeltrons have a bonus to detecting fibs as well, so hopefully this little Saurian will surrender its secrets to me.
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