Posted. I now control Zane. Sorry for the delay. I had a class yesturday (I'm starting my Master's program) and promptly fell asleep after class. I'll be available to catch Zane up to the rest.
@Anti and Crafty - I'm going to try and get Excalabur in your arc, but depending on how fast we go that might not be possible. We shall see.
Posted. I now control Zane. Sorry for the delay. I had a class yesturday (I'm starting my Master's program) and promptly fell asleep after class. I'll be available to catch Zane up to the rest.
@Anti and Crafty - I'm going to try and get Excalabur in your arc, but depending on how fast we go that might not be possible. We shall see.
We are already out of Aldhaven, even if stopping and waiting for a while is a part of Reynald's plan.
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But Iothfrahar already met Jägermeister. He just left for a bit to put up the flyers. Then Wombat said I should wait a bit for the rest of the plots to catch up time wise.
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We are already out of Aldhaven, even if stopping and waiting for a while is a part of Reynald's plan.
Oh, I'm quite aware. Though not very far. And not galloping. Still, it's unlikely, though technically his time is slightly scewed to yours, as he hasn't done much more than the meeting. We'll see.
Oh, I'm quite aware. Though not very far. And not galloping. Still, it's unlikely, though technically his time is slightly scewed to yours, as he hasn't done much more than the meeting. We'll see.
Well the time thing is a bit messed up. If we are going by our time, it has been several hours in total since the game began, as it is roughly mid-day now and the game started in the morning. However, his time has been less than an hour, and some people started the game at night.
How would everyone feel about you giving us an active (albeit very slow) in- game clock? Just to keep everything relatively consistent? It makes for a much more fluid story anyhow. If nothing else, keep us posted in this thread of the time of day.
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Well the time thing is a bit messed up. If we are going by our time, it has been several hours in total since the game began, as it is roughly mid-day now and the game started in the morning. However, his time has been less than an hour, and some people started the game at night.
How would everyone feel about you giving us an active (albeit very slow) in- game clock? Just to keep everything relatively consistent? It makes for a much more fluid story anyhow. If nothing else, keep us posted in this thread of the time of day.
As in, we rotate around each person, and longer actions make them wait longer? Or when they quote who they are, they list the time of day it is?
I'm interested in seeing how Zane tries to leave through the east gate...
... under the effect of an advanced invisibility spell?
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As in, we rotate around each person, and longer actions make them wait longer? Or when they quote who they are, they list the time of day it is?
As in you say in this thread what the time of day is, and people form their posts around that. It will add an internal structure to the game. I also realize that players on their own won't be able to post as much, simply because their posts play into ongoing actions. Therefore, some people will be limited in their posting (like 3SC).
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... against another invisibility user who can detect such magics?
yes, yes indeed I am very interested in seeing what he tries.
PLEASE don't just assume that you will automatically beat someone just because you want to.
(yeah, I'm aware you're not controlling Zane anymore, but still)
also, I thought Zane was "a thief with a few magical tricks", not "a great arch-mage as powerful as any other mage alive who likes to steal stuff".
edit: it really irritates me that I spend every last post in this thread setting up a trap and you just ASSUME he'll walk past it no problem.
1. Who said Zane was an all powerful arch-mage? Your player could assume that, but don't as a player. You don't have all the details of the theft. I already displayed that he wasted some sort of wand doing something at the vaults, but no one knows what the wand was for.
2. I don't assume he'll "just walk past". Zane has no idea there's a trap at all. Anti no longer is playing Zane, so anything you have about Zane should be directed at me.
3. A lot of what Zane can and will do will be based very much on how cooperative the Efreeti is. That wildcard can backfire in both our faces the same way it did to Anti.
One does not simply walk through the east gate. /lotr reference
@Everyone - As for timeline.....before I make any decisions on it, who else has suggestions on how to do time? Some people are way ahead and others behind. Anti, your idea has potential, but some of the disadvantages are pretty much the same as they are now - such as some people who have not posted in awhile while others have. Like Excal - he's farther behind because he's not as fast in posting. Time that way keeps everyone from posting until that person does, which could inevitably kill the game. Not that we should throw it out. It would need tweeking. But I'm opening it up to anyone who has an idea, please speak your mind!
@Everyone - As for timeline.....before I make any decisions on it, who else has suggestions on how to do time? Some people are way ahead and others behind. Anti, your idea has potential, but some of the disadvantages are pretty much the same as they are now - such as some people who have not posted in awhile while others have. Like Excal - he's farther behind because he's not as fast in posting. Time that way keeps everyone from posting until that person does, which could inevitably kill the game. Not that we should throw it out. It would need tweeking. But I'm opening it up to anyone who has an idea, please speak your mind!
I'm going REAAAAAAAALLY slowly at this point, but once me and Maticus can get things running, it should be pretty fast.
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1. Who said Zane was an all powerful arch-mage? Your player could assume that, but don't as a player. You don't have all the details of the theft. I already displayed that he wasted some sort of wand doing something at the vaults, but no one knows what the wand was for.
I'm objecting as a player, because I wasn't getting from Zane's writeup pre-game that he's gonna be someone who's essentially a batman wizard, a spell for everything, and that's the feeling I was getting from him so far.
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I know, and as I edited in, it's more just irritated that someone would just assume that weeks of someone else's work to the contrary will be simply walked past without a problem. It's not really about Zane, per se. I know you're not planning to do that.
I guess it's really more of I have an issue with the attitude I was picking up from anti about that.
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yes, and that's why GwD is trying his very best to get that away from him ASAP.
If he ends up tapping into the efreeti, that's fair game. But if he's already a nigh-uncatchable batman wizard who doesn't need the bracelet to easily waltz past any sort of defenses, I'm crying shenanigans.
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@Everyone - As for timeline.....before I make any decisions on it, who else has suggestions on how to do time? Some people are way ahead and others behind. Anti, your idea has potential, but some of the disadvantages are pretty much the same as they are now - such as some people who have not posted in awhile while others have. Like Excal - he's farther behind because he's not as fast in posting. Time that way keeps everyone from posting until that person does, which could inevitably kill the game. Not that we should throw it out. It would need tweeking. But I'm opening it up to anyone who has an idea, please speak your mind!
I am almost always an advocate of "instanced time", kinda like in a dynamic MMO.
That is, in general, players don't have to fuss too much with exactly when it is. When a group is all together doing something in an area, then they're all in the same time together. If someone else walks in that area and doesn't specifically specify a different time, it's assumed that they enter the area contemporary with those already in there. No one tries to keep a discrete timeline across all characters, but individual threads can have very precisely kept time if desired. If any big changes happen to the setting as a whole, they apply to all characters at once, or after their current "instance" is finished if it would make no sense for them to have it take effect that soon.
In my experience, it works really well for allowing player interactions in massive sandboxy games like this without having to worry too much about slow posters or those who spend a lot of time on one scene getting left behind. Some discretion for certain scenes taking place contrary to the general rule of thumb work fine.
It is terrible for setting up timelines after the fact, but I've found it to allow the most unihibited roleplaying without penalizing slower posters or artificially halting faster ones.
Zane isn't a batman wizard. You know this from his bio. However, you do know he simple HAD to have had some sort of help to get into the vaults, whether that involves another person or items someone gave him...and that's all I'm saying on the matter. So far Zane has had 2 posts as anti, and 1 as me and neither of us have involved magic other than the efreeti (and of course the spell that anti just recently cast on him). The crime scene is conjecture from a second party, Irena, who doesn't have all the facts about what happened. Not really much to go on I'd say. Not all the information an NPC is going to be completely accurate, after all! And even if it is, it's not always ALL the information.
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How much does that really differ with what we have going on at the moment?
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I understand you're both slow in posting at the moment. That's ok! That's not the problem. The problem is I have several characters who have spent various amounts of time. When they're completely separate, that's fine, but since there's a lot of crossing, some are quite behind compared to others. Such as it was originally part of the plan for Ander to go with Reynold, but because one thread was faster than the other, the time gap is wide, thus making the length of time before the characters interact with each other wider and wider.
I understand you're both slow in posting at the moment. That's ok! That's not the problem. The problem is I have several characters who have spent various amounts of time. When they're completely separate, that's fine, but since there's a lot of crossing, some are quite behind compared to others. Such as it was originally part of the plan for Ander to go with Reynold, but because one thread was faster than the other, the time gap is wide, thus making the length of time before the characters interact with each other wider and wider.
I'm thinking that we can deal with time skips and such with backwards-thought dialogues. It's ugly, and painful, and looks like crap, but it could work.
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Zane isn't a batman wizard. You know this from his bio. However, you do know he simple HAD to have had some sort of help to get into the vaults, whether that involves another person or items someone gave him...and that's all I'm saying on the matter. So far Zane has had 2 posts as anti, and 1 as me and neither of us have involved magic other than the efreeti (and of course the spell that anti just recently cast on him). The crime scene is conjecture from a second party, Irena, who doesn't have all the facts about what happened. Not really much to go on I'd say. Not all the information an NPC is going to be completely accurate, after all! And even if it is, it's not always ALL the information.
As long as crap like pulling a super-custom invisibility spell isn't his answer to everything based on his own magical talents, I'll be ok.
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It's the formalized version of what we have now, to help ease people's fears of slow posting getting them hopelessly caught in the past.
I'm thinking that we can deal with time skips and such with backwards-thought dialogues. It's ugly, and painful, and looks like crap, but it could work.
Zhin cursed his luck, for what must have been the third time that week. Two days ago he'd met this mercenary, and now they were here. Like this. Thinking back, he remembered how it had all happened...
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As long as crap like pulling a super-custom invisibility spell isn't his answer to everything based on his own magical talents, I'll be ok.
Super custom invisibility spell...you mean like your seemingly unlimited one? Yeah don't worry, I'm treating it as invisibility, or perhaps greater invis...what's the the CL of greater? At work with no books.
Super custom invisibility spell...you mean like your seemingly unlimited one? Yeah don't worry, I'm treating it as invisibility, or perhaps greater invis...what's the the CL of greater? At work with no books.
It's level 5, so available at CL9.
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Super custom invisibility spell...you mean like your seemingly unlimited one? Yeah don't worry, I'm treating it as invisibility, or perhaps greater invis...what's the the CL of greater? At work with no books.
GwD gets a few specific tricks he can do, but he cannot change them out. Most of his stuff is geared toward breathing fire on things, dealing with spellcasters, and the invisibility thing.
Greater invisibility is a 4th level spell (min CL 7).
GwD gets a few specific tricks he can do, but he cannot change them out. Most of his stuff is geared toward breathing fire on things, dealing with spellcasters, and the invisibility thing.
Greater invisibility is a 4th level spell (min CL 7).
How many times per day do you get to use these tricks?
As long as crap like pulling a super-custom invisibility spell isn't his answer to everything based on his own magical talents, I'll be ok.
Alright, I suppose I need to clarify once again. The spell that Reynald cast is a custom version of Greater Invisibility, using up one of his '6th level spell slots'. He can only cast four 6th level equivalent spells per day, and he has already used two of them. On top of that, there is the whole 'magic affliction' thing. His continued use of magic is killing him, and the more he uses it, the faster his body will deteriorate under the strain. Therefore, powerful illusions like that cannot be the answer to everything.
Remember that this isn't D&D. It may be based off of 3.5, but the rules are a bit more fast and loose, according to the 16 Wombat posted.
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We could fix the time difference with Ander by saying that my interactions have been in the past, and somehow insert my character up along the road somewhere. Or we could have his do stuff in the city for a wile, then send him as a messenger. Or the news of Reynald's intimidation of the other person makes the board want to send a way to spy on him, and they decide to kill two birds with one stone, plant an item on me to spy on the group, and send me behind to catch up with them, and they now have someone to train me.
We could fix the time difference with Ander by saying that my interactions have been in the past, and somehow insert my character up along the road somewhere. Or we could have his do stuff in the city for a wile, then send him as a messenger. Or the news of Reynald's intimidation of the other person makes the board want to send a way to spy on him, and they decide to kill two birds with one stone, plant an item on me to spy on the group, and send me behind to catch up with them, and they now have someone to train me.
Being pragmatic almost to the point of ruthlessness - check. Achieving multiple objectives with one move - check. Inserting oneself into the current timeline/plot in a believable manner - check. I like this plan!
A good idea might be to write a post describing your character's assignment, sendoff, and then subsequent departure from Aldhaven. Even better, you can write it as having left through a different gate, gone around the city walls, and have Ander be waiting for us on the eastern road!
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That's actually why I brought the girl that was interviewing malenth into the hall. They were going to send Ander to basically do what Excal is suggesting. Great minds think alike!
Wait a second. I swore, I wrote an IC post in response to Zane's words. I remember wondering if using so many CAPITAL LETTERS might be a problem with the people here. Where is it?! What the heck happened to my post?! *Rage*
And this is the third time I remember writing this post. Hope it finally works.
Note that Zane asked him to try. But he didn't say how much he wanted KimZahn to try. With that wording, KimZahn can try...just a little bit, and if he feels like it, a little bit more.
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Yeah don't worry, I'm treating it as invisibility, or perhaps greater invis...what's the the CL of greater? At work with no books.
