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Old 08-30-2012, 06:45 PM   Top  -  End  -  #61
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Forget Tarquin, why does Zzdtri know drow sign language? Or is drow sign language more than a crutch for deaf people?
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Old 08-30-2012, 06:47 PM   Top  -  End  -  #62
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Too young to remember, I am not. That makes this update even more fantastic. Thanks, Rich !
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Old 08-30-2012, 06:48 PM   Top  -  End  -  #63
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I'll just make a note for everyone questioning the decision to leave Malak behind; since Z doesn't have line of effect to him, he can't include him in the Teleport.
He's not in line of effect, because they buggered off and didn't make any effort to get back in touch with him.
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Old 08-30-2012, 06:48 PM   Top  -  End  -  #64
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Forget Tarquin, why does Zzdtri know drow sign language? Or is drow sign language more than a crutch for deaf people?
Curious, why wouldn't Zz'dtri the drow not know the sign language? Did I miss something?
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Old 08-30-2012, 06:53 PM   Top  -  End  -  #65
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Not about the comic, but these threads are actually how I notice new comics

Now for a comic related thing, so this feels like a worthy post. I must say, I don't think I'd mind Malack joining the Order.
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Old 08-30-2012, 06:54 PM   Top  -  End  -  #66
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More curiously, how does Roy know they're going to teleport?

Sure, enemies gathering in a spot and regrouping means something, but wouldn't it be sweet if Roy actually has a passing knowledge of Drow sign language and read Tarquin correctly.
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Old 08-30-2012, 06:55 PM   Top  -  End  -  #67
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They can compare the axe to the one Tarquin carries, by having Elan cast Summon Plot Exposition.

Of course, the real clue is that the Unknown Fighter took Nale with him, showing an untoward loyalty that the Linear guys aren't known for.
On the other hand, they might just assume that he's really attached to the salary Nale's paying him.
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Old 08-30-2012, 06:58 PM   Top  -  End  -  #68
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Curious, why wouldn't Zz'dtri the drow not know the sign language? Did I miss something?
If one doesn't know why he would be more likely to know drow sign language than any human on Earth would be to know Earthican sign language, it seems an understandable point of confusion.
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Old 08-30-2012, 07:01 PM   Top  -  End  -  #69
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So, can anyone explain to me in detail the non-dirty variety of interpretation of Tarquin's joke?
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It's used for the same reason the Military use hand signals; Silent communication. Which, given the paranoid Backstabbing Drow engage in, is very important. I believe it's one of the automatic languages for Drow.
It's a bonus language, not automatic.
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Old 08-30-2012, 07:14 PM   Top  -  End  -  #71
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I don't think it matters if Tarquin knew Drow sign language or not. I think the drow could figure out what he wanted just from the context alone (Tarquin carrying an unconscious Nale and running away from the attackers, Sabine gone, the kobald paralyzed). It was clear that the fight was not going well for the Linear Guild. It wouldn't have been hard to figure out what Tarquin wanted even without Drow sign language.
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Old 08-30-2012, 07:15 PM   Top  -  End  -  #72
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Too young to remember, I am not. That makes this update even more fantastic. Thanks, Rich !
I still have my first edition books. Drow were completely overpowered back then.

Malack can do a Word of Recall if necessary. It would make sense for Tarquin to have a fall back position in place.
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Old 08-30-2012, 07:25 PM   Top  -  End  -  #73
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If one doesn't know why he would be more likely to know drow sign language than any human on Earth would be to know Earthican sign language, it seems an understandable point of confusion.
Which "Earthican sign language" were you talking about?
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Old 08-30-2012, 07:26 PM   Top  -  End  -  #74
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So, can anyone explain to me in detail the non-dirty variety of interpretation of Tarquin's joke?
If drow sign language is anything like American sign language then the sign for drinking fountain (link below) looks very similar to an illegal drug and a pipe that goes along with it.


http://www.signingsavvy.com/sign/FOUNTAIN/5628/1
http://lifeprint.com/asl101/pages-signs/w/water.htm
http://www.signingsavvy.com/sign/PIPE

Or the signs he could be talking about are pipe and drink, which are similar, unlike drinking fountain, which I cant think of a similar sign for, unless we're using slang sign language, if that's a thing.

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Old 08-30-2012, 07:26 PM   Top  -  End  -  #75
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It took me too long to realize that "Bring my accountant" meant "Bring Kilkil".
*facepalm* Clearly I'm a fool.
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Old 08-30-2012, 07:34 PM   Top  -  End  -  #76
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I don't see why we need to dwell on the believability or lack thereof of Tarquin knowing Drow sign language. It is not a necessary component of LG escaping this time.
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Old 08-30-2012, 07:37 PM   Top  -  End  -  #77
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Looks like Pop is going to have to add Nondetection to his list of Batman prep if he didn't already have it. -4 to -9 vs. Scrying thanks to sudden OtS custody of that neato axe.
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Old 08-30-2012, 07:39 PM   Top  -  End  -  #78
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10 gp says the axe has the Calling Enchantment.
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Old 08-30-2012, 07:40 PM   Top  -  End  -  #79
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Ha! Oh, Tarquin, you crazy ol' campaigner!

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This one time I thought I was using the hand sign for "drinking fountain," but it turned out I was actually asking if I could – well, suffice to say that it ened up as a fine evening for everyone.
Thanks for the new favorite non sequitur!
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Old 08-30-2012, 07:44 PM   Top  -  End  -  #80
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Looks like Pop is going to have to add Nondetection to his list of Batman prep if he didn't already have it. -4 to -9 vs. Scrying thanks to sudden OtS custody of that neato axe.
There is no way someone as savvy as T doesn't have something as elementary as Nondetection.

'Course that won't stop some people from complaining that he has it...
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Old 08-30-2012, 07:47 PM   Top  -  End  -  #81
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Though the drug theory is inventive, given Tarquin's discourse about curvy female drow, his personality, and the fact that it's a lot easier to see our sign for "drinking fountain" as "oral sex" than "smoking", I'd vote for Tarquin having shown his sly linguistic skills to the lady, rather than the other.
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Old 08-30-2012, 07:50 PM   Top  -  End  -  #82
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Ten bucks says Malack defects to the order's side.
Five more says it's part of Tarquin's plan!
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Old 08-30-2012, 08:06 PM   Top  -  End  -  #83
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It took me too long to realize that "Bring my accountant" meant "Bring Kilkil".
*facepalm* Clearly I'm a fool.
Yeah, I did the same thing. I thought it was making fun of Tarquin for not knowing what he was saying, and then I realized it actually did make sense.
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Old 08-30-2012, 08:14 PM   Top  -  End  -  #84
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I don't see why we need to dwell on the believability or lack thereof of Tarquin knowing Drow sign language. It is not a necessary component of LG escaping this time.
Being able to communicate with the only LG member capable of a fast and easy escape is totally a necessary component of said LG escaping.
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Old 08-30-2012, 08:18 PM   Top  -  End  -  #85
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At least we are now sure that Suggestion has worn off.

Otherwise, Belkar may have run off looking for mansion whores. (And yes, the lack of swirly eyes)

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Old 08-30-2012, 08:25 PM   Top  -  End  -  #86
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Boy, that would have been a really good time to have a spell-disrupting sword move...

I wonder if that gives us some (weak) information about how many times Roy has levelled since being raised.
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Old 08-30-2012, 08:28 PM   Top  -  End  -  #87
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You guys remember Tarquin also mentioning knowing the elf-ambasador-in-disquise was a drow and was sending them gift baskets? Yeah... it seems Tarquin has more relations to them than we might think... heck, I wonder if he really DOES have a true neutral half-drow son somewhere called lean or anel?
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Old 08-30-2012, 08:44 PM   Top  -  End  -  #88
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Curious, why wouldn't Zz'dtri the drow not know the sign language? Did I miss something?
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If one doesn't know why he would be more likely to know drow sign language than any human on Earth would be to know Earthican sign language, it seems an understandable point of confusion.
Tarquin's still talking to Nale, not Zz'dtri. He never actually says anything to Zz'dtri orally.
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Old 08-30-2012, 09:14 PM   Top  -  End  -  #89
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I love it when the enemy leaves tribute (the axe)
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Old 08-30-2012, 09:19 PM   Top  -  End  -  #90
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Hmm, might the axe have an enchantment on it that would give Tarquin a latent advantage over the Order, even though he's no longer present?

All the runes along the blade made me think of spells like Instant Summons, though that's just an example and not really applicable here (as the runes would appear on the sapphire component of the spell, and it would just call the weapon back).
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