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Old 10-02-2012, 11:31 PM   Top  -  End  -  #331
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Just report his ass. He was one of the cheaters, right?



I was wondering why my Raptor 5 was so underwhelming.
Someone determined with maths that, on Gold, Marauders use a level 24(maybe) Phaeston and Nemesis use a level 200-something? (can't remember at all but really high) Raptor.

Edit: I might be able to find the numbers, but I'm feeling lazy. Also, I seem to remember the codex saying the Nemesis was equipped with a Widow, even though they are obviously carrying a Raptor.
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Someone determined with maths that, on Gold, Marauders use a level 24(maybe) Phaeston and Nemesis use a level 200-something? (can't remember at all but really high) Raptor.
... Where the H**l are those in my onboard store screen? *Grumble*level 200-plus Raptor*grumble*
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So, during the extended maintence downtime for this place, we got our next multiplayer DLC announced. Retaliation (trailer), coming October 9th. Big stuff in this one:
  • New Faction: The Collectors
  • New enemy troops: Dragoon for Cerberus, Drones for Geth.
  • New classes: Turian Havoc Soldier, Turian Ghost Infiltrator, "with many more being added on a regular basis."
  • New "hazard" versions of stages - not entirely new stages, but five existing ones will now have versions with what amount to traps throughout them, such as acid and seeker swarms.
  • New weapons: Collector Assault Rifle, Collector SMG, Collector Sniper Rifle.
  • New ammo mods and gear (unspecified).
  • New "Challenge" feature: basically an achievement system which earns you points that can be used to unlock banners and titles.

On top of that, someone found in the patch that dropped the other day the names of quite a few more classes, perhaps for this DLC or future ones (or possibly just ideas that may never be, for all we know). Most don't have regular class names, so what they are is just speculation, but I like what I see for the most part:

Turian Saboteur Vanguard
Asari Valkyrie (Sentinel? Soldier?)
Asari Huntress (Infiltrator? Vanguard?)
Quarian Marksman (Infiltrator? Soldier?)
Volus Engineer
Volus Adept
Volus Mercenary (Soldier? Vanguard?)
Volus Protector (Sentinel?)
Drell Assassin (Infiltrator?)
Geth Trooper (Soldier?)
Krogan Shaman (Adept?)
Batarian Slasher (Soldier? Sentinel?)
Batarian Brawler (Soldier? Vanguard?)
Vorcha Hunter (Infiltrator?)

The Volus are a surprise, but one I'm eager to see in action. I'd also love to try out an Asari Sentinel or Krogan Shaman, if I'm right about those. Oh, and Turian Vanguard too, that would be awesome. Which is good, because the classes announced for the DLC as-is don't do anything for me, being a Soldier and an Infiltrator.

Anyway though, great to see a new faction being added into the mix - we've needed that for a long time. I'm less pleased with the "hazard" stages - I want to fight the enemies, not the terrain. But not much for it I suppose. Of course, just my luck, it releases on the same day as XCOM, so if that game proves at all enjoyable, it'll be a week or two minimum before I get around to playing this. Ce la vie, I suppose.

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Niiiiice. I'm looking forward to see all this, even if some or most of it won't see the light of day. I picked the right time to get back into ME3 multiplayer. Of course, good luck unlocking all this stuff...
Also, I managed to unlock the Male Quarian Infiltrator. Any tips on leveling him? I think I won't be dropping any powers - both Tactical Scan and Arc Grenade look worthwhile. I've seen people cause a lot of carnage with the latter.
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OKay... revisiting my old statement: I think it has to do with the controls, too. There is something... slightly off with the controls compared to ME2. Not as bad as ME1, of course, where the Random Number God would make you miss no matter how good you aimed if your skill was too low, but it's just more sluggish in response to my mouse movements, I think. That in combination with the gun sounds (which are not as bad as I first thought, but I still feel they sounded better in ME2) causes annoyances for me at times.

Other than that... I LOVE the Turian anti-material rifle (read: rocket launcher). Cerberus are a pleasure to fight when you insta-gibbs everything you point at. My other favorite weapon is the Scorpion. Both of these also have the instant benefit that they are truly unique in their firing patterns, so you can tell when a friend is helping you out. If I get sloppy and exit cover too soon, and the guy in front of me just explodes... Thank you Garrus!

Also, I obviouly did things in the wrong order when the first quest I did was Leviathan. That was... HARD even at lvl 38. Absolutely amazing DLC though, and helps explaining a lot of stuff.
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I might actually play again when this new pack drops.
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Just report his ass. He was one of the cheaters, right?.
Oh, definitely did. Still not as viscerally satisfying though. I'm a bad person in that respect.

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Someone determined with maths that, on Gold, Marauders use a level 24(maybe) Phaeston and Nemesis use a level 200-something? (can't remember at all but really high) Raptor.

Edit: I might be able to find the numbers, but I'm feeling lazy. Also, I seem to remember the codex saying the Nemesis was equipped with a Widow, even though they are obviously carrying a Raptor.
I distinctly recall the raptor being called out as the nemesis weapon, myself.
And really, think about it. She goes down in like, two shots. That means all her skill points are in Assassinate, Class Passive (split between weapon and power boosts, surely!) and some variant of tac cloak. That's a good percent boost right there! And I know a Raptor X isn't even 100% better than a Raptor I, so it probably covers it.
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The stuff for the upcoming DLC is like a dream come true for me. The turian with the jump jets looks like what I had in mind for a non-biotic Vanguard class (i.e. a Vanguard that uses some form of tech to charge).

At any rate, it's nice to see the Turians getting some love. They're one of my favorite races.
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So, I succumbed to curiosity and bought Leviathan (haven't played it and don't plan to until I get closer to the final Cerberus mission). However, I bought some extra Bioware points on the same (an extra 10$ worth ). That left me enough points for 3 PS packs and 1 Veteran pack, all of which I bought immediately. However, clicking the button to buy PS Packs 2 and 3, as well as Veteran 1, failed to do anything besides deplete my Bioware points. Is there a handy link or phone number which I can call and complain?
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The stuff for the upcoming DLC is like a dream come true for me. The turian with the jump jets looks like what I had in mind for a non-biotic Vanguard class (i.e. a Vanguard that uses some form of tech to charge).

At any rate, it's nice to see the Turians getting some love. They're one of my favorite races.
That's what I said! I even got some guff for hopin it was a vanguard, so I feel totes vindicated right now.
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So, I succumbed to curiosity and bought Leviathan (haven't played it and don't plan to until I get closer to the final Cerberus mission). However, I bought some extra Bioware points on the same (an extra 10$ worth ). That left me enough points for 3 PS packs and 1 Veteran pack, all of which I bought immediately. However, clicking the button to buy PS Packs 2 and 3, as well as Veteran 1, failed to do anything besides deplete my Bioware points. Is there a handy link or phone number which I can call and complain?
there is, I believe at the end of last thread. I can't remember it, but was posted by Krade I believe.
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That's what I said! I even got some guff for hopin it was a vanguard, so I feel totes vindicated right now.
There will be scootaloo's all over the place, come the dlc.
It won't be a Vanguard, one of the basic tenets of the Vanguard class is "it must have BIOTIC Charge" thereby severely limiting the non-biotic characters who can be Vanguards. However, it'll probably be close enough that it doesn't matter (N7 Shadow's close enough to an Infiltrator Vanguard, right?).

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there is, I believe at the end of last thread. I can't remember it, but was posted by Krade I believe.
I already found it. Turns out there's an "Answer HQ" set up by the social.bioware guy, with numerous people getting answers to their problems, plus a link to the EA help site.
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there is, I believe at the end of last thread. I can't remember it, but was posted by Krade I believe.
The link I posted was for Commendation Pack troubles, specifically. Other issues are not covered.

I am also very excited for the new DLC and also very bummed that it has to come out against XCOM. And ALSO also very bummed that two days later I'm going to Maryland for the Baltimore/DC area meetup. So I'll have 3 (Borderlands 2 is in that lot as well) different awesome games to play and I'm taking a 4-5 day trip 2 days later.

I believe "First World Problems" applies here.
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That's what I said! I even got some guff for hopin it was a vanguard, so I feel totes vindicated right now.
There will be scootaloo's all over the place, come the dlc.
Well, I'm pretty sure that what we saw is the Turian Havoc Soldier. Still looks close enough to a Vanguard, though. Although, Sentinels are suppose to combine tech and biotic powers, but there are plenty that don't have biotics at all.
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It won't be a Vanguard, one of the basic tenets of the Vanguard class is "it must have BIOTIC Charge" thereby severely limiting the non-biotic characters who can be Vanguards.
Since Turians can use biotics, that's no obstacle. That particular class isn't a Vanguard, of course, but there's no reason Turians can't be Vanguards. Plus you'll note that there was a Turian Vanguard among the class names found in the patch's data, so, yeah.

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Most don't have regular class names, so what they are is just speculation, but I like what I see for the most part:
I'mma still not seein' my Hanar Spectre class, Bioware...!
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"This one has forgotten wiether it's weapon is charged with incindeary rounds."

Oh, bull crap. You can see the glowy red thing right there.
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So, I've just played Leviathan.
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It won't be a Vanguard, one of the basic tenets of the Vanguard class is "it must have BIOTIC Charge" thereby severely limiting the non-biotic characters who can be Vanguards. However, it'll probably be close enough that it doesn't matter (N7 Shadow's close enough to an Infiltrator Vanguard, right?).
A vanguard is a biotic soldier. Biotic charge is nice, and emblematic of the suppose training a vanguard receives towards CQC. So is their shotgun proficiency, and so was their melee damage boost. But a vanguard is not defined by biotic charge.

However, assuming a vanguard is so defined, there is no difference between a biotic using biotic charge and a non biotic using biotic charge via a mass reduction field and leg thrusters. An all tech biotic has been discussed before, when we were hoping to get a geth unit in the Adept class line up. I think the Cerberus lash technique is porridge of concept towards tech functioning as a biotic technique.

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Of all the items on that list, the ones I really think are fake one way or another are the Volus. Can you imagine the Volus in ME3 multiplayer? The way they look in the trilogy, they couldn't even hold most weapons.
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I doubt it. No matter how far in the future it was set, the differences in the endings remain.

Destroy ends with the galaxy more or less as before, but minus the Geth and other synthetic life, if they had survived to that point at all. Fast-forward enough and you may have new synthetic life again, basically returning things to the status quo.

Control ends with a Shepard-based AI controlling the Reapers in the Catalyst's place. Which will inevitably radically alter the way galactic society develops - and can itself result in quite a few different potential paths for things to take, depending on what the Shepard AI uses the Reapers for. Given the Reapers and Catalyst have no apparent limit to the time span over which they can function, fast-forwarding will not change this.

Synthesis completely changes all life as we know it, no two ways about that regardless of how much time passes.

I think we can assume that Deny will be ignored, so I won't mention the issues there, though they're obvious enough.

So, yeah, three very different new status quos, and no amount of time-skipping will bring them together. There's no way to make a game that accounts for all three possibilities, so they only way to continue the setting post-ME3 would be to make on cannon, which given we're talking about Bioware here, is quite unlikely. So I feel quite confident that your hints are wrong.[/spoiler]
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Bioware have stated that the Mass Effect franchise will live on. And they have hinted on that whatever comes next takes place after the ending, sans Shepard. Personally I am quite excited, actually. The possibilities are endless, almost. Maybe they in the end will treat the first three games as the equivalent of the fight against Morgoth; an incredible detailed backstory a long time ago.
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Old 10-07-2012, 09:03 AM   Top  -  End  -  #354
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Old 10-07-2012, 09:28 AM   Top  -  End  -  #355
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Last time I went through that fight, the conversation went something like: "You hurt the god of biotics? EAT CAIN!"
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Old 10-07-2012, 11:29 AM   Top  -  End  -  #356
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Last time I went through that fight, the conversation went something like: "You hurt the god of biotics? EAT CAIN!"
I usually just spam the rocket launcher (the self-targeting one). 17 missiles empties that room. You don't even have to aim.
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So the kerfluffle with the missing Spectre packs has been resolved (to my surprise when I got everything from that string of purchases in one big bolus), and I now have both a Demolisher and a Shadow. Surprisingly, this has given me a full complement of Engineers and Infiltrators, as well as some weapon upgrades that I don't really care about (I mean really, they gave me a Hornet 7 in one of those ). After a few more matches, I have a fully-specced Destroyer, with Typhoon and Claymore in hand, and a fully specced Salarian Engineer (which, of course, I will use for Geth farming). I guess my question is: Where should I go next? What's the best way to get easy levels on an Infiltrator (i.e. what should be the training wheels?)
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Old 10-07-2012, 02:12 PM   Top  -  End  -  #358
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I usually just spam the rocket launcher (the self-targeting one). 17 missiles empties that room. You don't even have to aim.
I find that nuking things is more satisfying than rockets. (The grenade launcher auto-aims as well, judging by when I shot one at the gunship in that level.)
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I seem to be lucky lately. I unlocked another new character - this time the Ex-Cerberus Adept. Hopefully he'll work better than the Ex-Cerberus Vanguard. I can't seem to get that one right. I guess I'll spread my points evenly, but I'm not sure which skills to max. I guess I'll get Lash and Smash to 6, even though Singularity is better now.
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Bioware have stated that the Mass Effect franchise will live on. And they have hinted on that whatever comes next takes place after the ending, sans Shepard. Personally I am quite excited, actually. The possibilities are endless, almost. Maybe they in the end will treat the first three games as the equivalent of the fight against Morgoth; an incredible detailed backstory a long time ago.
Of course the franchise will live on - that much has always been obvious. No developer gives up on making a franchise that's this popular. Hints that the next game will take place after the end of ME3 I don't believe, because, as I mentioned before, that would only be possible if they picked a canon ending, which Bioware in general seems loath to do with their games. No amount of time-skipping can fix that, because of the radical differences in effect on the galaxy as a whole that the results have.

And, thinking about it, picking a canon ending would probably tick off even more fans, since various people prefer different outcomes - I know plenty of people would be very displeased if Synthesis were made canon, for example. And I'd be unhappy myself if they made Destroy canon.

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