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Re: Total War: Steampunk Skies (Recruitment closed)
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Originally Posted by Gunther
I say! Do you bite your thumb at me, sir?
I apologise for the offence sir. I have no desire to bring harm to you or your house. I merely wish to preserve the sanctity of honour, which you are unduly damaging.
Re: Total War: Steampunk Skies (Recruitment closed)
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Originally Posted by razovor
I apologise for the offence sir. I have no desire to bring harm to you or your house. I merely wish to preserve the sanctity of honour, which you are unduly damaging.
You bite your thumb at me in speaking ill of our honorable lifestyles, but it is not a thumb bit intentionally, methinks, or at least not in the cause of quarrel!
Your views on honor differ from that of the Empire's men! We do not act as barbarian raiders do, wantonly slaughtering once emerging from the shadows. Our agents pride themselves on subtlety and ensuring a minimal loss of life in achieving our goals. Indeed, it is a point of pride that the Empire of Whitecliff has avoided most major skirmishes and assaults from pirates by virtue of either beheading the leadership or otherwise diverting their wrath! Which, on an unrelated note, His Majesty offers condolences to Lord Damion and the rest of House Oktar at the loss of his wife. Should he ever have need of our services, either subtle or more overt, we can offer him a suitable discount for his unfortunate and needless loss to the pirates that plague us all.
Furthermore, we pride ourselves on the matters of the sciences and more creative industries! Perhaps, though we may disagree on matters of honor, we can find common ground in the fields of natural philosophy? If nothing else, your men may always be welcome to find sparring partners with the diestros and duelists of Whitecliff. Nevermind some of the rather spectacularly jovial and familial parties held upon the Bastile's taverns and rooftop bars!
Re: Total War: Steampunk Skies (Recruitment closed)
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Originally Posted by Gunther
Your views on honor differ from that of the Empire's men! We do not act as barbarian raiders do, wantonly slaughtering once emerging from the shadows. Our agents pride themselves on subtlety and ensuring a minimal loss of life in achieving our goals.
Should he ever have need of our services, either subtle or more overt, we can offer him a suitable discount for his unfortunate and needless loss to the pirates that plague us all.
Perhaps, though we may disagree on matters of honor, we can find common ground in the fields of natural philosophy?
If nothing else, your men may always be welcome to find sparring partners with the diestros and duelists of Whitecliff. Nevermind some of the rather spectacularly jovial and familial parties held upon the Bastile's taverns and rooftop bars!
We are not entirely dissimilar then. But I do not see the issue in killing men who have announced their willingness to die. What is a military, if not a group of people willing to lay down their lives in combat? We will of course, never strike at civilians. But if a soldier does not want to die, he would not be facing us in combat.
You speak of subtle actions. That is what I have trouble with. Our honour compels us to to announce ourselves any-time we join a conflict. We could not in good conscience engage in any sort of surprise assault, or serve as a distraction for one. We give our enemies the chance to face us fairly, as every-man deserves.
Re: Total War: Steampunk Skies (Recruitment closed)
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Originally Posted by razovor
We are not entirely dissimilar then. But I do not see the issue in killing men who have announced their willingness to die. What is a military, if not a group of people willing to lay down their lives in combat? We will of course, never strike at civilians. But if a soldier does not want to die, he would not be facing us in combat.
You speak of subtle actions. That is what I have trouble with. Our honour compels us to to announce ourselves any-time we join a conflict. We could not in good conscience engage in any sort of surprise assault, or serve as a distraction for one. We give our enemies the chance to face us fairly, as every-man deserves.
Aha! Thus we reach our roots of each tree of ideology! Whereas House Oktar views that it is more honorable to engage the forces of an opposing power directly, to eliminate them in the field of battle, it is the view of the Empire of Whitecliff that it is better to save as many lives as possible. Soldiers have families, even those of the enemy. By removing enemy leadership or critical war assets, confrontation can be diverted or otherwise avoided. If butchers slay a hundred thousand in a battle, civilians and soldiers, what better is it if an army slays ten thousand of an opposing army?
It is much better to fire but a single bullet, slaying but one man, than to see ten thousand or one hundred thousand perish over the same conflict. The Empire is willing to give an honorable duel where requested, but war is a terrible thing to be avoided.
Re: Total War: Steampunk Skies (Recruitment closed)
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Originally Posted by razovor
You use dishonourable methods to avoid war?
What is the point of war if not to defend honour!?
Why resort to war over a slight of honor when, if such a matter is so important, a duel would suffice? Should a king hide behind army of men, or simply send forth his strongest to defend his honor? Is one man's honor worth the widowing of a hundred women and the orphaning of a thousand children?
(OOCly, I think I'm gonna have a crapton of fun RPing with you once the IC is up.)
Re: Total War: Steampunk Skies (Recruitment closed)
A slight against ones honour is not of serious concern.
I was talking about defending honourable ideals. Respect for ones enemies, honesty in all things, protection of civilians. These are worth fighting for.
If I fought a duel and lost, I would be bound on my honour to back down. Why would I take the risk of a duel, when I know I have a superior military?
Re: Total War: Steampunk Skies (Recruitment closed)
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Originally Posted by Bahumat
Duels are a time honored tradition in Noxus! General Darius himself gained his position through a duel with the previous man who held his position.
Pretending to accept a duel, while your buddy shoots the other guy in the back of the head is a time honored tradition in Aetheres
Sure the foreign people are a bit annoyed when they find out, but really, what did you expect? The people best known for their spy networks to fight fair?
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Re: Total War: Steampunk Skies (Recruitment closed)
Yes, we heard about that. Know that should any duels be held between our citizens, our people will have been warned that this will occur and take appropriate precautions.
Re: Total War: Steampunk Skies (Recruitment closed)
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Originally Posted by Bahumat
Yes, we heard about that. Know that should any duels be held between our citizens, our people will have been warned that this will occur and take appropriate precautions.
Of course. Feel free to take whatever precautions necessary.
In Aetheres dueling is discouraged however. A useless waste of life. Especially as the people who like to duel are those who have the greatest combat abilities and/or have large responsibilities. Letting you best warriors and administrators kill each other seems a great way to ruin a nations ability to run itself. The dueling problem only comes up when a foreign person comes in, who doesn't know the rules (or lack thereof) of dueling in Aetheres tries to start one.
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Re: Total War: Steampunk Skies (Recruitment closed)
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Originally Posted by Bahumat
Duels are a time honored tradition in Noxus! General Darius himself gained his position through a duel with the previous man who held his position.
Ah! Yes. General Darius. An interesting sort. We have ways of dealing with men such as himself.
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Originally Posted by hydroplatypus
Pretending to accept a duel, while your buddy shoots the other guy in the back of the head is a time honored tradition in Aetheres
Sure the foreign people are a bit annoyed when they find out, but really, what did you expect? The people best known for their spy networks to fight fair?
Why should a duel be to the death? A duel to first blood or a duel to the pain is just as worthy, and being a spymaster does not necessarily eliminate a man having a sense of honor. A sense for intrigue is mandatory, yes, as is an ability to make hard calls. But an inability to walk with one's head high? I think such is not entirely necessary.
Though if you want to fight dirty, then hey, fight dirty. Part of the trade of being an assassin is an ability to know when the liberal application of some dart grenades and timed explosives will come in use.
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Originally Posted by Bahumat
Yes, we heard about that. Know that should any duels be held between our citizens, our people will have been warned that this will occur and take appropriate precautions.
As is only honorable! Indeed, Whitecliff promotes duels to first blood foremost, to the pain secondly, and discourages to the death where possible. Death is a senseless thing to endure for the sake of life!
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Originally Posted by hydroplatypus
Of course. Feel free to take whatever precautions necessary.
In Aetheres dueling is discouraged however. A useless waste of life. Especially as the people who like to duel are those who have the greatest combat abilities and/or have large responsibilities. Letting you best warriors and administrators kill each other seems a great way to ruin a nations ability to run itself. The dueling problem only comes up when a foreign person comes in, who doesn't know the rules (or lack thereof) of dueling in Aetheres tries to start one.
Well, it's only fair to give someone warning that a duel is a bad idea, wouldn't you agree?
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Originally Posted by Bahumat
You may wish to keep quiet on the dueling if Darius should visit then.
He's....enthusiastic.
Perhaps Darius would like to come over for some tea and scones? He'd be quite the star with some of his finer dueling stories, methinks!
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Originally Posted by razovor
A slight against ones honour is not of serious concern.
I was talking about defending honourable ideals. Respect for ones enemies, honesty in all things, protection of civilians. These are worth fighting for.
If I fought a duel and lost, I would be bound on my honour to back down. Why would I take the risk of a duel, when I know I have a superior military?
I see we have been speaking of two kinds of honor! Whitecliff holds a respect for those it is enlisted to fight against, and will fight honorably should a physical war come to it rather than the shadow war most commonly employed. However, against the like of raiders, bandits, and miscreants alike, why should there be an honorable war against foes such as that?
But the point remains: Should you fight a duel over honor, would you rather not fight personally in a duel of honorable grounds, rather than to pit the lives of hundreds of men in the name of honor?
The task of defending innocent life is one for the military at large, yes, but is it not better to risk losing face in a duel where you fought to protect your own honor, than to have to account to your men why their comrades died to attempt to protect that same honor? An issue of honor is an issue indeed, but I think it better for but a handful of men to fight, if such a large number indeed be necessary, than for the grandiose horror of war to be unchained.
Re: Total War: Steampunk Skies (Recruitment closed)
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Originally Posted by daelrog
Luck will be the number of re-rolls they have. Players may give conditions on when to use the re-roll or leave it up to my discretion. I will use re-rolls conservatively. No die may be re-rolled more than once. Note that luck re-rolls a single die, not an entire roll.
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Originally Posted by daelrog
If a player reaches 10 morale, they may re-roll one of their rolls. They will get to see all the rolls made for them for the turn (even rolls they didn’t know they had to make, like assassination attempts), and choose one to re-roll, though they do not get to see the rolls of those made against them. If the player reaches 20 morale, they can do this twice, and so on.
Is the re-roll from morale the same as that from luck?
I.e, you re-roll one dice, rather than an entire set of dice?
Re: Total War: Steampunk Skies (Recruitment closed)
When will the game start?
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