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Old 09-18-2012, 12:36 AM   Top  -  End  -  #121
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Hey Diego, are you around? Still hoping to catch you on the IRC regarding character creation, had any ideas yet?
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Old 09-18-2012, 03:00 PM   Top  -  End  -  #122
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...I'm sorry BT, but no. I've got nothing.

I dunno, I'm just not really feeling it anymore. I don't even know what I want to play.

May try and come up with another character idea or may just drop out altogether. I haven't decided yet. Sorry to mess you about and waste your time like this.
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Old 09-18-2012, 05:16 PM   Top  -  End  -  #123
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...I'm sorry BT, but no. I've got nothing.

I dunno, I'm just not really feeling it anymore. I don't even know what I want to play.

May try and come up with another character idea or may just drop out altogether. I haven't decided yet. Sorry to mess you about and waste your time like this.
Aw, that's a shame to hear. Well, whatever you decide make sure it's something you'll enjoy. This is an RPG, not a job.
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Old 09-18-2012, 06:30 PM   Top  -  End  -  #124
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Pretty much this ^

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Old 09-19-2012, 12:27 AM   Top  -  End  -  #125
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I'm sorry to hear that. Well, have fun!
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Old 09-19-2012, 09:42 AM   Top  -  End  -  #126
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Blastech and I have finished up the character exercises for Dive Bomb. Here's the 25 association words I've come up with. I'll have a fuller write up later on.

Knowledge: Medicine, Intelligent, Record, Science, Applied.
Inquisitive: Curiosity, Question, New, Learning, Attentive
Reserved: Quiet, Shy, Judgment, Apprehensive, Withdrawn
Principles: Morality, Method, Overcome, Proud, Driven
Awkward: Inexperienced, Insecure, Unsure, Alone, Follower
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Old 09-19-2012, 06:30 PM   Top  -  End  -  #127
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I should mention that the 25 words are not intended to be a difficult exercise. They are there to put a bit of flesh on the bones of the core character idea, and to encourage you to think a bit beyond the basics of job description and race.

Yes, you can use the same word multiple times, or variations on the theme. It just means that that characteristic will be more "dominant" in that character.

You can also have somewhat contradictory terms (like I mentioned to Balmas' above with "shy" and "pride"), so long as you work out a framework for determining how to resolve that internal conflict of the character.

Anyway, this marks three characters close to done. Once the backstory stuff comes up you guys can work on how Divebomb will fit in with Grease and Soot.

I know Amish is rather busy with his project until the end of the month, so we're probably looking at an October start time at this stage. Take the time to read the recommended fanfics if you haven't already, and or to start bouncing ideas off each other and me in terms of statting out the characters in RiM mechanics in light of any changes from the chargen process.

Can you also please point me towards any final stats once you've done the above, I think I do need to at least eyeball them to see if they follow the mechanics set out.

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Old 09-19-2012, 06:50 PM   Top  -  End  -  #128
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It should also be noted that this is a tool for helping you, not a formula. You could hve a perfectly clear character and not e able to shoehorn them into this formula.

That said, it is a damned good formula.


Blastech: so you guys are settled on the four PCs right? Tinsel, Amish, Balmas, and .... Uh... Ravian! Wow. Your name is hard to remember, mate. I'll have to hang out with you more to fix that!
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Old 09-19-2012, 07:12 PM   Top  -  End  -  #129
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Yep, looks like we've got our crew. I did make some alterations to the story to accomodate a fifth player. Now that they're in there, it should be easy to tweak back to four or five depending on Diego's decision as whether to play ot not. (I'm assuming not at this stage, but he has till the RP actually starts to say otherwise)
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Old 09-19-2012, 08:15 PM   Top  -  End  -  #130
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All right, then, I only have a few words left before I'm done. I'll put what I have here, and maybe I can work some of them out by the time I'm done this post.

Efficiency: Teamwork, Punctual, Simple, Practical, Prepared
Responsibility: Maturity, Dependable, Judgmental, Professional, Society
Frustration: Repression, Pride, Romance, Laziness, Snobs
Family: Loyal, Exemplar, Nagging, Siblings, Love
Flexibility: Variety, Generalist, Connections, Friendly, Synergy

For clarification, not all of these words relate the same way. Some are subsets of the main word, some contribute to why the main word is important to her character, and some are things that don't describe her, but still relate to the main word. Most of these are under Frustration. (Her Pride and her Romance life cause her frustration in different ways, while Laziness is an attribute of other ponies that frustrates her.) If I need to clarify more, I can do so.

At any rate, it seems that I at least got 25 down.
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Old 09-19-2012, 09:02 PM   Top  -  End  -  #131
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I know Amish is rather busy with his project until the end of the month, so we're probably looking at an October start time at this stage. Take the time to read the recommended fanfics if you haven't already, and or to start bouncing ideas off each other and me in terms of statting out the characters in RiM mechanics in light of any changes from the chargen process.
Thank you very much. I've been meaning to come and post that I'm a bit swamped at the moment. I'm trying to think of that fifth word every time I've got the mental cycles to spare, but so far I've got nothing. I think this is telling me that there's somewhere that I can add a bit more to the character, seeing how right now he's summed up in four words (Family, Leadership, Pride, Perfection). The coding part of the project is supposed to be done on the 30th, and I come back on the 6th (literally arriving home an hour before I leave), so sometime after that should be good.

@Diego: Sorry to hear that, but don't stress yourself out over it. RPs are, at the end of the day, a game.
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Old 09-19-2012, 10:18 PM   Top  -  End  -  #132
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Hmm ... didn't he get his cutie mark through art?
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Old 09-19-2012, 10:34 PM   Top  -  End  -  #133
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Thank you very much. I've been meaning to come and post that I'm a bit swamped at the moment. I'm trying to think of that fifth word every time I've got the mental cycles to spare, but so far I've got nothing. I think this is telling me that there's somewhere that I can add a bit more to the character, seeing how right now he's summed up in four words (Family, Leadership, Pride, Perfection). The coding part of the project is supposed to be done on the 30th, and I come back on the 6th (literally arriving home an hour before I leave), so sometime after that should be good.

@Diego: Sorry to hear that, but don't stress yourself out over it. RPs are, at the end of the day, a game.
Family, Leadership, Pride are all neutral words. Why?
Perfection generally always has a connotation. Is it positive or negative? Is it a goal to strive to? A thing to maintain?

Also, you don't have to be a good person. Your perfect self can be an attractions, evil ****, he's just the perfect atrocious evil ****. You can Also elaborate on a negative trait that is important to the character, such as isolation, aggression, greed, and the like

How would people describe him? So far if I go to a party and ask someone about him, they will say "who, that guy? Yeah, he's pretty stiff. Likes to do his best, a perfectionist. Really proud, kids full of himself. Totally dedicate to his family." is there any trait his buddies in the dorm would relate that's not there?
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Family, Leadership, Pride are all neutral words. Why?
Perfection generally always has a connotation. Is it positive or negative? Is it a goal to strive to? A thing to maintain?

Also, you don't have to be a good person. Your perfect self can be an attractions, evil ****, he's just the perfect atrocious evil ****. You can Also elaborate on a negative trait that is important to the character, such as isolation, aggression, greed, and the like
Aye, though Pride was meant as his flaw. That, combined with Leadership, puts him a tier above the rest of the world. He'd be the sort of person to work off of the assumption that he knows best, and you'll have your work cut out for you proving him wrong.

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How would people describe him? So far if I go to a party and ask someone about him, they will say "who, that guy? Yeah, he's pretty stiff. Likes to do his best, a perfectionist. Really proud, kids full of himself. Totally dedicate to his family." is there any trait his buddies in the dorm would relate that's not there?
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Hmm ... didn't he get his cutie mark through art?
I think this is where I can get that last word. After all, he was the pony who, when he got a vision in his head, went and painted it on bottlecaps because he lacked paper. For lack of a better explanation, I think I can put a bit of Rarity's sense of drama in him, driven from that underlying artistic passion. Puts him as a character who lives more in the moment, and finds the dilemmas of the here and now to occupy his thoughts. That also ties into his Perfection; he can only see the incomplete painting in front of him, not the three hours he's already spent fussing over the sky.

In that case, perhaps Passion would be a decent contender for the fifth word, though I think I might be able to find a better one.
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Old 09-20-2012, 02:58 AM   Top  -  End  -  #135
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Passion is an intense and barely controllable emotional response. Passion also comes from 'pati', to suffer. I think it's a fine wine-red word. Works beautifully and really ties the other four together.

I am bu one not-so-humble opinion though
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Old 09-20-2012, 12:01 PM   Top  -  End  -  #136
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Pretty much this ^

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Thanks guys, 'preciate it.

After much thinking I've decided that I'm not going to continue. This isn't what I'm really looking for right now. Thanks for putting up with me though. I look forward to seeing how you guys get on.
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Well hope everything goes well for you, sorry you won't be able to join us but it's not your fault.
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Old 09-20-2012, 05:55 PM   Top  -  End  -  #138
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It's miiiiiiinnneeeee D:

Seriously though, sorry to hear that, but I hope we can entertain :3
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Old 09-22-2012, 07:23 PM   Top  -  End  -  #139
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Hey guys, while we wait, can you link me to your latest stats for your characters so I can add them to the OP?

Was thinking we could have another look at those, hopefully with people getting a bit more time to read over the mechanics and get a feel for any changes their character may have gone through over the last few weeks.
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these are Soot's current stats, I made a couple of changes from the original, namely swapping Agile for Sensitive to represent her empathy, and adding a skill at acting, since Dive Bomb has cooking covered and it would help in her way of life to pretend to be somepony she's not.
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Old 09-23-2012, 10:08 AM   Top  -  End  -  #141
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Ok, here's my stats, copied from earlier in the thread. I'll mark any changes I make with bold text
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I changed her Sensitive talent to Adaptable, like I said I would earlier on in the thread. I decided to keep her Guiding Element as Generosity, though, to show her attitude of spending her own time and talents to aid the rest of Equestria.

I used up her starting skill points, as well. I gave her Metalwork because I figured that she regularly has to modify her tools or create new ones. Sewing, similarly, came to mind because she made her signature saddlebags by hoof. Repair is simply an area of focus in her job that she's particularly good at.

I still have 20 XP which I plan to spend on skills (along with 2 skill points), which again will mostly be based on what skillsets we think the party is lacking.
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Old 09-24-2012, 12:20 AM   Top  -  End  -  #142
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Okay, here's Dive Bomb, version 3.0, hopefully the final version.

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It's interesting; when it came time to spend XP, I actually looked at it and was going to spend it on something different. Then, I looked at the awesome aerobatics, and said, "Yeah. That's something he'd have."
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Old 09-25-2012, 01:51 AM   Top  -  End  -  #143
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Phew. I've gone through the character stats you guys posted and have a bit of feedback on areas I think might need another looking at. More than happy to discuss, particularly if you think I got a calculation wrong ... it can happen!

One point for clarification; I read through the rules, and strictly speaking any XP spend on the Mind attribute does not confer additional skill/spell points at creation as XP spending occurs last in the flow of character creation.

I assumed that if you had increased your mind score, you used your attributes at creation to do that, and any subsequent attribute increase came from XP at the end, it only really impacted Dive Bomb because of how high he pushed the mind score.

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Old 09-25-2012, 10:26 AM   Top  -  End  -  #144
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Most of these were caused by my own misunderstanding of the system.

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Yay! I didn't fail!
I think I will now do a bit of my XP expenditure, though I will still save 2 skill points and some XP for additional skills.

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Third try: I generally read the mind stat as more of natural cunning then education since it covers more broad subjects then the talent: Smart, like instincts, perception and the like.

Basically I read the stats as:
Body= Strength, Constitution and Dexterity
Mind= Intelligence and some parts of Wisdom (like Perception)
Heart= Charisma and the other parts of Wisdom (like Insight)

However I did decide to give her more heart instead of Mind to help her with her Empathy. Taking your advice for the Robin Hood style Special purpose, but now am wondering if a cat is eintirely appropriate for a cutie mark seeing as how independent they are. For the low level in thief, I intend to improve it, but bear in mind that Soot is definately closer to a petty thief then Catmare right now.
Didn't like the acting skill so decided to change it to Scavenging (finding all sorts of perfectly good things that people will throw away without a thought)

As far as the Magic goes, I read in the rules that Animate is granted for free, I guess since it's an exstension of natural Telekinesis or something. Because her mind is lower and I can't afford to get some of the aspects for some of the spells I'm going to wait until she has more experience and instead specialize in some and make the most with what I have. Removed the Light conjuration spell and the sleep spell and instead added a more personal version of the Lights out spell, afixing a darkness illusion to somone's eyes to blind them.

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Third try: I generally read the mind stat as more of natural cunning then education since it covers more broad subjects then the talent: Smart, like instincts, perception and the like.

Basically I read the stats as:
Body= Strength, Constitution and Dexterity
Mind= Intelligence and some parts of Wisdom (like Perception)
Heart= Charisma and the other parts of Wisdom (like Insight)

However I did decide to give her more heart instead of Mind to help her with her Empathy. Taking your advice for the Robin Hood style Special purpose, but now am wondering if a cat is eintirely appropriate for a cutie mark seeing as how independent they are. For the low level in thief, I intend to improve it, but bear in mind that Soot is definately closer to a petty thief then Catmare right now.
Didn't like the acting skill so decided to change it to Scavenging (finding all sorts of perfectly good things that people will throw away without a thought)

As far as the Magic goes, I read in the rules that Animate is granted for free, I guess since it's an exstension of natural Telekinesis or something. Because her mind is lower and I can't afford to get some of the aspects for some of the spells I'm going to wait until she has more experience and instead specialize in some and make the most with what I have. Removed the Light conjuration spell and the sleep spell and instead added a more personal version of the Lights out spell, afixing a darkness illusion to somone's eyes to blind them.

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Is this alright?
Personally, I find it most helpful to think of the attributes in terms of World of Darkness attributes, with Mental, Physical, and Social attributes. It just falls easier that way. (Though I'm guess you're just familiar with D&D.)

Also, according to the spell rules, you don't have to have all the aspects of your spells to know them. Having an aspect means you can improvise with that aspect. You can have a "rote" spell with an aspect you can't improvise with, but you couldn't adjust that spell on the fly like you could with one where you have all the aspects.
Or you could just read the way the book itself puts it:
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And personally I thought that Acting fit well, but hey, it's your character.
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As far as the Magic goes, I read in the rules that Animate is granted for free, I guess since it's an exstension of natural Telekinesis or something.
Colour me corrected then! As for the other changes, they all look good, although I'll have to impose a +1 difficulty modifier on the Shrouded Sight spell for similar reasons as before (namely you're doing something involuntary to another pony).

Up to you on the particular of the skills choices, both looked fine to me.

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Also, according to the spell rules, you don't have to have all the aspects of your spells to know them. Having an aspect means you can improvise with that aspect. You can have a "rote" spell with an aspect you can't improvise with, but you couldn't adjust that spell on the fly like you could with one where you have all the aspects.
Or you could just read the way the book itself puts it:


And personally I thought that Acting fit well, but hey, it's your character.
This is a pretty good point to clarify, and I'm going to add this to the OP Magic Guide.
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Old 09-25-2012, 07:00 PM   Top  -  End  -  #149
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Also, according to the spell rules, you don't have to have all the aspects of your spells to know them. Having an aspect means you can improvise with that aspect. You can have a "rote" spell with an aspect you can't improvise with, but you couldn't adjust that spell on the fly like you could with one where you have all the aspects.
Or you could just read the way the book itself puts it:


And personally I thought that Acting fit well, but hey, it's your character.
Yup. So things you want your character to be a master at no matter what should be known aspects, but things you want to do, specifically, you aren't bound by aspects. Rarity can trasnform fabric, but she can only do so to create an outfit; This is a known spell but she doesn' have the aspects to wing it.

Twilight Sparkle seems to have a slew of rotes, and a few core aspects.
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So, I've been working with Dive Bomb to figure out a bit more about him, specifically his mannerisms. As noted before, he is a very cautious, reserved pony, and it carries over to his speech; he usually doesn't say much at all, preferring to observe until the ideal time. When speaking, his voice is calm and quiet unless he's stressed or angry, when he develops a stammer.

His body language is much more expressive, since most of it is instinctual. His wings play a large part in that when he's on the ground; they bristle when he's angry, droop to his sides when he's sad, flare out when he's startled, and raise halfway when he's beginning to get irritated with someone. He's also acquired the habit of hovering in place when he's thinking about a difficult question.

He is very protective of his personal space, though usually this just takes the form of him avoiding people who encroach thereon. Touching him, and touching his wings in particular, are good ways to rapidly earn his dislike and ire respectively.

He likes all kinds of music, though he has a special fond spot for the great pegasus military anthems and other bombastic tunes. (Think Sousa and the 1812 overture.) He'll often hum along to such music, perhaps closing his eyes and 'conducting' for a bit. He doesn't know how to play any instruments, but admires those who do.
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