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Old 10-01-2012, 12:13 AM   Top  -  End  -  #691
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1) No crit bonus.
2) 9 WGT to Joshua's 8 CON means he takes a SPD hit.

I mean hell, the only sword suitable for end-game Swordmasters was a Lord Weapon; either of Lyn's Katti swords.
The Sol Katti is a horrible weapon for Lyn, she takes a 8 speed hit.

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I usually wind up ignoring light magic. It doesn't hit very hard and you can't rely on it critting with much regularity and I'd just rather have a staff user that's going to pick it up on the side on promotion. Anima's solid enough that it can carry you through most situations and Dark is just really strong with Luna and Nosferatu.

The sword lords erika/lyn/eliwood all have ~40% (45% for eliwood) STR growths, so their damage potential is pretty RNG-screwable. I tend not to use myrmidons either unless I'm building towards a certain goal (Durandal on Eliwood for the dragon or Lyn because she turned out great after the prologue) or they get some strong levels early on.

I prefer units that can either hold ground well (armored knights, pirates/warriors to a lesser extent) or cover ground very quickly (pegassus knights, wyvern knights). Mercenaries and archers are nice too as supportive units for a slow advance since they tend to turn out fantastically offensively and just chew through enemy units. I'm not a huge fan of cavalry, despite their usefulness, though. I'm sure I'd love them a lot more if they had the "canto-after-you-attack" version of canto that FE7/FE8 don't.

On another note, Florina always turns out terribly when I play. Always. I don't understand. She's supposed to be good, right?
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Old 10-01-2012, 12:19 AM   Top  -  End  -  #692
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Yep, the Sol Katti [14wt] is just there to make you go "ohhh, ahhh, a new animation!!!". The Mani Katti is great though; just spam that thing until it breaks and don't even care. It's priced at 0 gold, so it's fantabulous for your funds rating.

Also, ugh. Florina never manages to push past 15STR for me. Then I get kind of upset about wasting a whip on her.
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Old 10-01-2012, 12:22 AM   Top  -  End  -  #693
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Yep, the Sol Katti [14wt] is just there to make you go "ohhh, ahhh, a new animation!!!". The Mani Katti is great though; just spam that thing until it breaks and don't even care. It's priced at 0 gold, so it's fantabulous for your funds rating.

Also, ugh. Florina never manages to push past 15STR for me. Then I get kind of upset about wasting a whip on her.
Oh yeah the Mani katti is awesome. But Lyn has issues dealing damage to the dragon, with the dragon slaying weapon.

Ouch, Do Fiora, or Farina turn out better at least?
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Old 10-01-2012, 12:24 AM   Top  -  End  -  #694
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I remember my Guy caped everything but luck at level 18. Before promoting.

Basically, he carried the team half the time.
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There's a funds rating... ?

j/k

I remember watching another kid play FE on an emulator in a computer class and just screaming in my head, "YOU'RE PLAYING IT WRONG!" because he didn't even bother trading items between units before maps.

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Old 10-01-2012, 12:28 AM   Top  -  End  -  #696
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Well okay, I was wrong about the Sol Katti, but eh, at least I was spot on about the Mani Katti.

Point is, the S rank swords in the games always seemed to be suited for Heroes than for Swordmasters; the latter would be so gimped in the game if not for the eternally useful aspect of the Killing Edge. I'm kind of hoping that the same won't be the case in Sairyu's game, either.

Speaking of swords. Does Ion Eccidio wield a personal specialty sword of some sort?
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Personally, I kept the last 2 uses of the Mani Katti 'til I got the Hammerine.
Then I used it on the Katti, and never bothered equipping the Sol. I was using it right 'til the end.

With those numbers, looks like Roland's gonna get C rank :D
Too bad there's nothing I can do with it at current XD
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Old 10-01-2012, 12:40 AM   Top  -  End  -  #698
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@Acanous
Hammerne costs too much money to use repairing a weapon with no gold value. :"P

@Herpestidae
Yup, Guy's really strong in hard mode in my experience too. He gets nifty boosts to all the areas that myrmidons need and just goes strong from there on.

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Yeah, it's a personal weapon called As'Vora with a PRF rating. If you ever get wind up killing him, you'll be able to use it too.

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Yeah, Fiora and Farina usually turn out pretty good. I think I like Farina better though. She knows what's important in life! gold

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I remember my Guy caped everything but luck at level 18. Before promoting.

Basically, he carried the team half the time.
Hp too? Either way, Your Guy is amazing and I wish to learn more.

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There's a funds rating... ?

j/k

I remember watching another kid play FE on an emulator in a computer class and just screaming in my head, "YOU'RE PLAYING IT WRONG!" because he didn't even bother trading items between units before maps.

Now I'm that kid, on the internet.
You should have told him. So that he could be better.

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Well okay, I was wrong about the Sol Katti, but eh, at least I was spot on about the Mani Katti.

Point is, the S rank swords in the games always seemed to be suited for Heroes than for Swordmasters; the latter would be so gimped in the game if not for the eternally useful aspect of the Killing Edge. I'm kind of hoping that the same won't be the case in Sairyu's game, either.

Speaking of swords. Does Ion Eccidio wield a personal specialty sword of some sort?
I like this line to describe the Sol Katti, from another let's play.
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When Athos said "It's not a legendary weapon, but..." he actually meant "This is the best we could scrounge up, cut me some slack, bitch."
In my (dead) game the Triblade would have been great for both.


@Sairyu. I just hate training the other two. They are so frail.
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If Roland caps luck, and ends up getting ahold of a Nidhogg expy, does that make his luck 35?
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Yeah, it's a personal weapon called As'Vora with a PRF rating. If you ever get wind up killing him, you'll be able to use it too.
Nice! I hope it's more Mani Katti than Regal Blade.

If you haven't already named Ion's personal sword, I was going to suggest the name "10,000 Winter Nights" for it.
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@Illven
I have never, ever, had that problem, because Florina is almost always more frail than either of them when they come up for recruitment. It's always along the lines of: "sigh of relief, slight/significant upgrade of a peg rider!"

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Yes. Then he can go on a gambling spree and bankrupt LA.

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Is that a reference to something?

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Nice! I hope it's more Mani Katti than Regal Blade.

If you haven't already named Ion's personal sword, I was going to suggest the name "10,000 Winter Nights" for it.
Regal blade was the only way Guy could damage the Fire dragon.
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@Sairyu,

Yep. It's the name of Murasame's blade in the apocryphal legend of his challenge with Masamune.

Another idea I had was to call it "The Gathering Clouds of Heaven".
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Regal Blade too expensive to use!

Otherwise, I don't think you'll be unhappy with the stats.
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As'Vora - 30/30 [6wt, 9mt, 70% hit, 25% crit] PRF
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It's a lot weaker than say, Quae Icchuka or Jadro, but it isn't a relic, so there you go.
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Oooh, not bad at all. I like it.

EDIT: Eh well, "The Gathering Clouds of Heaven" is probably a better name for a sword relic, anyway.

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Regal Blade too expensive to use!

Otherwise, I don't think you'll be unhappy with the stats.


It's a lot weaker than say, Quae Icchuka or Jadro, but it isn't a relic, so there you go.
I like that weapon.

By the way, do you have names or stats for the S ranked weapons and if so can we see them?

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Oooh, not bad at all. I like it.
25% crit and double attacks may be a tad Op.
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a tad, especially with such a low Wt.
But then again, you'll chew through the uses like mad, 3 hits/combat means you're looking at 10 uses before it's gone.
you've got what, 15 enemies max and then poof?
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But those 10 enemies will be ripped apart
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25% crit and double attacks may be a tad Op.
It'll be perfectly balanced once Adele gets her mitts on the Gae Bolg
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And when Nina gets her hands on long range light distance magic with many uses.
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Well the Holy Sword is a brave, killer, horseslayer sword with 60 uses and 17 might and grants +10 Magic and Prayer.
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It's supposed to be OP. You'll need it all once bad things start to happen.

Also I do have a little table with some of the S ranked names in them, yes:

RelicsType
Quae IcchukaSword
Gungnirlance
JadroAxe
ErdefallBow
MilleniumTome (Anima)
WellsichTome (Dark)
NehilinaSword

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SkyscraperSword
VergeSword
TitanLance
The VermillionLance
RazaracAxe
The VoraciousAxe
MaelstromBow
LawbreakerBow
World CrestTome (Anima)
The EsotericaTome (Anima)
LorekeeperTome (Dark)
Rubrum MendaxTome (Dark)
TruthbearerTome (Light)
AugustinusTome (Light)

Skyscraper: A long blade empowered by the condensed heart of a storm, it shines a gentle blue on cloudless days and sparks with barely restrained energy when it rains. The sword lacks a cross-guard and a long chain is threaded through the pommel, trailing its wielder’s movements. The words, “life is ephemeral; grasp it with all of your strength”, run down the blade’s surface.

Skyscraper - 30/30 [7wt, 11mt, 90% hit, 20% crit] S
casts wind magic from afar (using MAG = STR)
+5SPD

Verge: A sword forged with iron from the bones of the world. Although simple and unassuming, it carries the weight of a mountain with it whenever it strikes. The sole vanity allowed to this weapon is a diamond of princely worth set in its pommel. The words, “duty weighs more heavily than any power”, are etched on the pommel about this diamond.

Verge - 35/35 [11wt, 17mt, 85% hit, 10% crit] S
inflicts petrification
superiority S

Titan: Forged in the heart of an ancient mountain, this spear was carved from a single block of diamond and blessed by the spirits of the earth. Every inch is covered by minute engravings and etchings so that it shines like a miniature sun when light hits it. It is a piece of art so magnificent that its enemies are struck insensate.

Titan - 30/30 [14wt, 20mt, 90% hit, 10% crit] S
DEF and RES increases based on number of adjacent enemies
nullifies critical hits

The Vermillion: A spear wreathed in a corona of flames which descended from the heavens hundreds of years in the past. It constantly burns with a quiet intensity, erupting into golden flames when swung. When it strikes an agent of the Dark, it emits a deafening roar that sends them to their knees.

The Vermillion - 30/30 [12wt, 18mt, 80% hit, 20% crit] S
inflicts burning 7
effective against monsters

Razarac: A single bladed axe that was found buried in a demon’s skull. Holding it produces a feeling akin to grasping a naked razor. When it cuts, it produces constantly bleeding wounds that reopen even after magical healing. It never requires sharpening, even if it is never cleaned.

Razarac - 45/45 [15wt, 22mt, 70% hit, 5% crit] S
inflicts maim 3
prevents healing and restorative effects

The Voracious: The head of this weapon is shaped like a half moon. An incredible number of criss-crossed teeth are cut into its edge, making it gouge and tear whatever it strikes, leaving wounds that resemble nothing more than shark bites. It’s spilled so much blood that every bite it takes directly empowers its wielder.

The Voracious - 20/20 [13wt, 17mt, 65% hit, 5% crit] S
50% of damage converted to HP
regains 1 durability per 10 points of overkill damage

Maelstrom: A fragile-looking bow that rose from the depths of the sea, it is stylized to resemble corral and decorated nearly to the point of impracticality. However, it fires with all the fury of a wrathful god; blessed by the spirits of the sea, arrows fired from this bow fly unerringly, as though their targets were drawn to them by an unseen current.

Maelstrom - 20/20 [18wt, 15mt, 65% hit, 15% crit] S
maximum range increased to 9
hit% rises based on distance

Lawbreaker: A ghostly longbow engraved down its length with ancient runes, it draws power directly from the land, imbuing any fired arrows with the destructive impact of lightning. When on the move, it conjures turbulent winds about the wielder, partially obscuring them from view.

Lawbreaker - 25/25 [8wt, 17mt, 85% hit, 5% crit] S
targets lowest defensive attribute
+15% dodge

World Crest: An ancient tome dating back to the War against the Dark; it details the natural laws governing earth and water. When invoked, it causes the earth to tear itself asunder and the heavens to weep torrents of shattered ice.

World Crest - 25/25 [11wt, 17mt, 80% hit, 25% crit] S
allows 2 consecutive hits
terrain modification

The Esoterica: An ancient tome dating back to the War against the Dark; it details the natural laws governing fire and wind. When invoked, it swallows up all life in a destructive firestorm.

The Esoterica - 25/25 [7wt, 15mt, 90% hit, 15% crit] S
allows 2 consecutive hits
maximum range increased to 4

Lorekeeper: An ancient tome filled with swirling text that defies the human eye; staring at it for long enough gnaws at a person’s sanity. The magic within invokes akasha, the first element, allowing its wielder to impose their own reality onto nature; what can be done within is limited only by creativity.

Lorekeeper - 20/20 [17wt, 5mt, 75% hit, 5% crit] S
superiority S
MT increases based on MAG

Rubrum Mendax: An ancient tome bound in red leather; the text within seems to be a simplistic recounting of natural laws, though closer inspection reveals that all of the contained information is false! When read using a cipher, it details various behaviors and laws that appear to govern akasha, the first element. When invoked, it produces stable effects which mimic the behaviors of anima magic.

Rubrum Mendax - 20/20 [10wt, 16mt, 90% hit, 15% crit] S
superiority S
reverses the magic triangle

Truthbearer: A thin book filled with innumerable pages; the text within is organized into symmetrical designs composed of rays and hard angles. It details the absolute truth and immutable nature of æther. When invoked, it transmutes matter into salt.

Truthbearer - 30/30 [12wt, 15mt, 95% hit, 25% crit] S
inflicts petrification
reverses the magic triangle

Augustinius: A thin book bound in bleached ivory; it cannot be opened. When invoked, it causes time to cease about the target.

Augustinius - 25/25 [15wt, 15mt, 70% hit, 20% crit] S
inflicts petrification
bypasses dodge% derived from SPD


Stuff with PRF ratings (except for good old Nehilina) aren't on the table, since they're more 'personal' weapons.

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It's supposed to be OP. You'll need it all once bad things start to happen.

Also I do have a little table with some of the S ranked names in them, yes:

RelicsType
Quae IcchukaSword
Gungnirlance
JadroAxe
ErdefallBow
MilleniumTome (Anima)
WellsichTome (Dark)
NehilinaSword

S-RankedType
SkyscraperSword
VergeSword
TitanLance
The VermillionLance
RazaracAxe
The VoraciousAxe
MaelstromBow
LawbreakerBow
World CrestTome (Anima)
The EsotericaTome (Anima)
LorekeeperTome (Dark)
Rubrum MendaxTome (Dark)
TruthbearerTome (Light)
AugustiusTome (Light)
Any stats, or are you still working on them?

Also what would Nina know about their histories?
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Old 10-01-2012, 01:20 AM   Top  -  End  -  #715
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No "Gathering Clouds of Heaven". I are sad. (Not really. )

EDIT: Bad things + Sairyu = we doomed.

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The relics are statted out. I can get to you with some of the S-ranked stats though.

Lorewise uh... there're vague descriptions for some of the relics. The names, for example, would be well known due to the Osulian church's focus on the Nameless.

I'll give you a freebie on a relic:

Jadro
A brutal axe wielded by the barbarian hero Kelkin against the Dark. It seems more like a slab of black stone than a manufactured weapon, Jadro pulses and thrums with an ancient heartbeat. Discovered in Duae’Durduth, its true origins are unknown. The pagan barbarians believed that its destined wielder would bring about the Ragnarok.

Jadro - 25/25 [24wt, 19mt, 90% hit, 40% crit] S
weapon advantage A
might increases based on WT difference
+5DEF

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Bad things = Enemy sages everywhere with bolting, berserk and physic.

EDIT: Or Jadro-wielding berserkers everywhere. With a critical rate of over fifty, they could one hit kill on anything.
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You'll need it all once bad things start to happen.

once bad things start to happen

bad things
Allow me to equip my brown trousers.

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It's not that bad a prospect, right? I mean, it'll be exciting!

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It's not that bad a prospect, right? I mean, it'll be exciting!
JESUS TAKE THE WHEEL

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